we will all be together again. yours from the first moment i saw you and forever, your danny your john. one of the generation of more of olivia newton john super fans forever, hopelessly devoted to her. >> i'm not very sad but beautiful note, i wish you all a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with us. i will see you at the end of tomorrow. end of tomorrow thank you all for joining us this hour. tomorrow is the day when you are gonna want to buy the physical copy of the newspaper. you are gonna want it and

folded carefully, maybe put it in a little archival paper or parchment if you don't have that. put it away someday, you might depending on how saucy you are feeling, you might want to note in archival ink in the margin of tomorrow's paper -- note, anniversary of richard nixon's resignation as president. people will get a kick out of that some years down the road. the reason you might buy tomorrow's paper is if the world doesn't collapse into ash by then, your grandkids some day will look at that old physical paper that you were able to say from august 9th, 2022 and they are going to google at the thought of what your life must be like. they will goggle at the thought of what it must be like to see something like this happening in your lifetime in realtime for the first time ever in american history, having no idea how it would play out.

nothing like this has ever happened before and we don't know how this ends. tonight the news that the fbi has raided the home of the past president of the united states is astonishing. before republican president donald j trump, we have never had a president impeached in a single term twice. we never had so many members of the presidents own party vote to impeach him but to convict and remove him from office and byron from serving again. we never heard the president reject the results of an election, we never heard of president summoned his followers to a violent insurrection at the u.s. capital to try to stop the transfer of power to his successor. we had never before had a president who is known to tear up official documents, whose chief of staff was reported to have burned government documents in a white house fireplace, which would be the most lurid document destruction we had ever heard of in any presidential administration

were it not for the fact that the former president has repeatedly been a repeatedly accused a flashing document government documents down toilets. so even the burning in the washington fireplace is trumped. this is a former president who unlike any other former president in the united states is under active criminal investigation in multiple venues. he's under active investigation in the state of georgia. his lawyers are already reportedly negotiating with -- is they've been asked about his actions. the reason the former president was not at his florida home for the fbi raid was because he was in new york city in preparation for what we are expecting a sworn deposition from him very soon. and a new york attorney general probe investigating him and his family business on multiple allegations of fraud. that's a lot of firsts already.

but today, the former president donald trump was the subject of an fbi raid on his home in south florida. and historically, sort of you know it can't be overstated. and i do think it is worth pausing and reflecting on the fac today that we don't know where this leads, that we do do not know where this ends. this is a president who recently have told some of his most rabbit followers not only that he is still the rightful president of the united states and that has been forced out in some sort of unlawful twitch, but he's told them it that if any prosecutor anywhere in the country makes an act of prosecuting him for crimes that his promise, that his followers will take to the streets and

unprecedented numbers that the country has never seen before and demonstrations. we don't know where this will lead in legal terms, in historic terms, in terms of the behavior of the former president and his supporters. and that is a moment that is worth appreciating in terms of us being at it has storage nexus. it is amazing what we have been through with this guy. we have no idea where it goes from here. but today, this nexus where we are, in the most practical simple terms what we know is this. we know that federal law enforcement authorities would've had to go to a judge and bring to that judge your request for a search warrant. in order to get a search warrant from the judge, the authorities would've had to tell the judge where they wanted to search and what they wanted to search for and they would've had to demonstrate to

the judge probable cause that at that location they wanted to search they would find evidence that a crime was committed. a federal crime, a specific federal crime that they would have to spell out in detail to the judge. the judge would have to be satisfied in the specificity of the location and what they were looking for and in the assertion that there could be evidence of a crime found of that location. if the judge was not -- was satisfied that he would sign the warrant that could be then be executed by the fbi within 14 days. we know that as a categorical matter in terms of what today's news implies about what has led to this point. now kelly o'donoghue reports for nbc news tonight that after the war was obtained but before it was served, the fbi notified the secret service today that they were going to come to mar-a-lago today this morning in order to execute a search warrant. former president trump himself tonight confirmed in an online statement that the rate had taken place. he noted in the statement that he felt aggrieved, more interestingly he noted that the search warrant had included the

fbi breaking into his safe. a search warrant of this nature might have included everything to be found at the property, everything related to the potential crime that authorities had to assert probable cause about. so therefore breaking into a safe wouldnt be that much more serious enact than the rest of the search itself. he has volunteered, quote they even broke into my safe. so if we want to believe his word, we know that was part of it. such is the nature of this very unique former president that it is literally hard to narrow down the potential federal crimes, which potential federal grand jury this raid might have pertained to. it's not like you hear about a raid on donald trump's house and you say that investigation. you really have to narrow it down. the former president is at least potentially implicated in an ongoing criminal investigation grand jury,

including forged sets of faked electors to the electoral college to keep him in power. is a federal grand jury looking at that. he's also potentially implicated in another federal grand jury investigation, into efforts to use the justice department itself to overthrow the election results from 2020 and keep him in power. a second grand jury of supportively looking at that. he's also potentially implicated in another federal grand jury investigation. this one first reported in may by the new york times, in which alleged syria's handling of classified information by the former president. now the times was first to report this matter, it was the washington post reports six months ago in february the trump had taken boxes and boxes and boxes of government documents and materials with him to south florida to his house, club, hotel thing called mar-a-lago. the post reported back in february that many the

documents that he took with him to mar-a-lago were definitely in an equivalency classified. now that is important because there are criminal penalties attached to mishandling or allowing unauthorized access to classified government documents. people get in trouble for handling mishandling classified government documents all the time. washington post reporting time let in part by jackie allen maney was first to report on how highly classified some of these documents were that trump took with him to mar-a-lago. classified document is a classified document and criminal penalties therein attach just to the fact that something is classified, but jacqui alimentary and her colleagues at the post where the first to report that some of these documents that he took were really, really classified. we know that in part because the national archives subsequently had to go and retrieve them and to make an inventory of what they had found. some of these documents were so classified they couldn't even list them in an inventory.

they couldn't describe what kind of documents they were. if the inventory itself was going to be an unclassified document. here's the headline from jackie alameda and her colleague from february 25th of this year. some records taken by trump are so sensitive they may not be described in public. quote, some of the presidential records recovered from former president trump's residence at mar-a-lago or so sensitive that they may not be able to be described forthcoming inventory reports in a classified way, according to two people familiar with the matter there are records at the very highest levels of classification, including some that can be viewed by only a small number of government officials. quote, there are records that only very few have clearances to view. the documents are so sensitive that officials may not be able to describe them in an unclassified way. according to the two people who spoke to the washington post. so in other words if one of these federal grand jury is looking into president donald trump is looking into the potential mishandling

classified information, existence of the grand jury as a criminal manner was first reported by the new york times in a, but the washington post reported back in february that what he took to mar-a-lago or boxes and boxes and boxes of documents, that the national archives tried for a long time to get back before they were finally able to get them. this is apparently -- some of this is of such high classification that not only can you and i not know the contents of these documents, you can't know any of the words in the document, you can't know about the existence of the document. you can't have the kind of document it is described to you unless you have a very high level clearance. it's that classified. and that's when he took to the golf course, golf club thing or whatever it is, the supper club, whatever it is. his gold thing in south florida. the new york times is reporting tonight that it is the classified documents investigation the lead today's fbi raided, led to the execution of the search warrant at the former presidents property. this is apparently -- some of this is of such high classification that not only can you and i not know the contents of these documents, you can't know any of the words in the document, you can't know about the existence of the document. you can't have the kind of document it is described to you unless you have a very high level clearance. it's that classified. and that's what he took to the golf course, golf club thing or

whatever it is, the supper club, whatever it is. his gold thing in south florida. the new york times is reporting tonight that it is the classified documents investigation the lead today's fbi raided, led to the execution of the search warrant at the former presidents property. they reported the existence of the problem, and we continue to follow this breaking news story tonight. it is a remarkable advance of the story that the fbi is taking public facing steps in this investigation. we've known this investigation was underway for several months, but then executing the search warrant in southern florida has all sorts of implications as to the seriousness of this matter. in broader historical terms, this today will always be the day that you and all of us learned that the former president united states had been raided by the fbi. joining us now is jackie allen mini, investigations reporter for the washington post. miss allen any thank you for

being with us tonight. this may not be full circle, but quite a ways around the arc from your initial reporting. >> thanks so much for having me. >> i know that you and your colleagues have been continuing to report this story. you broke the scandal six months ago. what do you understand about the latest here about, the scope of the fbi's action would've says about this investigation as a whole? >> yes rachel, we are trying to get new to deals right now, and what we have heard so far at which the former president confirmed himself that the fbi did raid the premises today. this is an especially newsworthy development because obviously six months ago we reported that the national archives had sent people down to mar-a-lago to recover at least 15 boxes of documents and classified information and various momentous. records that belong to the american people from president trump.

the fbi revisiting him today indicates that there might have been documents that have yet to be recovered. we have no reporting on what exactly might have been taken, one fbi agents were looking for, but some new reporting that we do have is that the inventory that was turned over the fbi of those 15 boxes was actually 100 pages long and that was only of the unclassified information, unclassified items that were improperly taken. if you ask any archivist, they would say that that information is just as information to our horse historic record than some of the classified information that was taken. we have a source telling us that if you quantified the unclassified version of the classified inventory that will

be a separate inventory from the list of unclassified items, that it would be around three pages long. but the source added that volume is just one way to quantify the damage that might have been done, that's just one page or one portion of a top secret or classified item might have been improperly archived that might do very grave damage to the national security of the u.s.. >> let me make sure that i understand this. the national archives was able to retrieve about 15 boxes of material from mar-a-lago already. they then produced two different inventories of that material that they recovered and handed it to the fbi. a 100-page inventory of just the unclassified material that was improperly taken and then a three-page inventory of the

classified material that was taken. and that again a national archives in may that inventory gave it to the fbi. is that right? >> that's right. we don't actually know how many inventories exist overall but we do know of at least two and classified inventories, one of the unclassified items in the unclassified version of the classified items. because even describing classified items needs to be classified. these are rough estimates around 100 pages worth of items. we have some descriptors of some of the unclassified items, things like birthday dinner menus were taken, schedules, calendars, speeches speeches, agendas, talking points. we are still digging into this every minute, getting text messages and new intel as we speak, but it is helping at least for us to understand the full scope of what the fbi could be looking for here. >> i don't want to keep you. i know that this is a story or

actively working on, so i promise i will not keep me too long she could look at all this information and work with your colleagues. i want to make sure that we know and understand about what the national archives has done so far. did a national archives have a fight with trump over some of these things that he did not believe were improperly taken, that he thought he had a right to? was it hard for them to get stuff back from him? is that perhaps the origin of things that were held back? that the fbi might be looking to retreat from him? >> that is a really good question, clearly you've been reading the reporting very closely, because six months ago when we first broke the story the reason why it actually became in issue was because the national archives as they do for the public record they go through the documents put it in

the presidency, and make sure it's all organized. during that process which takes decades, it's still at times these archivists are going back to former presidencies in the 70s in the 80s when they find new historic records the need to be preserved correctly. but when they realize when they're going to the trump white house record, that there were documents that were missing that were publicly known and fairly infamous that gained notoriety throughout the course of the trump presidency including for example, that letter from the north korean dictator kim jong-un who famously wrote trump a letter. that it was missing from the records and that prompted them to get in touch with trump's counsel that was representing him post presidency to say, hey guys we're missing a bunch of records do you have them? there was then back and forth that was fairly extended i'm

not quite sure not quite remembering the time period but this is a president the left the white house in january, and these records were not retrieved until the beginning of this year. so there were some extensive back and forth and the former president was very resident reticent about giving up some of these documents. the volume of 15 boxes alone was quite an astonishing number at the time and there was in that back and forth an agreement that the former president would continue to hand over documents as they found them. jackie alemany, vastly a shuns reporter for the washington post. i know you're in the middle of -- helped break in the first place. call us back over the course of the hour as you learn more, obviously we will be covering this closely as we possibly can. thank you. >> thank you. >> all right, i want to bring into the conversation chuck rosenberg, he's a former u.s. attorney, a former senior fbi

official, in the first into a immediately get in touch with a nights like this to make sure that i have the legal part of this, at least, under my belt, and i can explain it in a way that is going to make sense to other non lawyer such as myself. chuck, my friend, thanks for being with us tonight. >> well, thank you for having me, rachel. >> first, let me just get your top line reaction to this rate. tell me if i've said anything thus far that doesn't strike you as correct, in terms of the way these procedures work. telling what you think about the seriousness of this? >> so, your explanation at the opening we are showing spot on, i'm not sure why you need me. i will say this, it's astonishing. just step back for a moment, and recognize that the department of justice went to a federal judge and got a search warrant for the home of a former president. putting aside what's in the affidavit, putting asidewhat crime they specified, putting all that aside, this is not something, and this is an understatement, that happens lightly at the united states

department of justice. you made this point that i want to sort of amplify, rachel. two branches of government are involved in a search warrant. the executive branch, the fbi, and department of justice have asked permission, and the judicial branch which grants permission. this is not just some fbi agent off by herself seeking to search the former presidents home, highly scrutinized, -- we history the united states department of justice. and, then approval by a federal judge. >> chuck, i started making calls and texting people as soon as the news broke tonight. and, in addition to yourself, i spoke to another former very high-ranking doj official. he told me a couple of things that i just wanted to run by, this is a person who's not comfortable being identified publicly, but was living the

willing to let me characterize the remarks. in terms of framing their understanding of what happened here. the first comment i got from this person, drives a little bit with what you said. that attorney merrick garland himself would've had to prove this personally. and the official i spoke with also pointed out that attorney general garland approving this is a search, rather than as a subpoena may be significant, in that it may mean that the attorney general was convinced that these documents in question where risk of being destroyed, or were potentially at risk of being disseminated to third parties, which would further aggravate, worsen the crime here in terms of mishandling classified information. what do you think about that aspect of this? >> make sense to me.

first of all, rachel, subpoena and a search warrant aren't mutually exclusive. you can execute a search warrant, and simultaneously hand the person a subpoena for the same records. meaning, regardless of where they are, we want them back. and we want them back, with -- so the other question you just asked. we want them back, meaning we want them back regardless of how we get them. and, if we have to get a search warrant get them back, then so be it. if you don't trust the person with a subpoena, because a subpoena says simply, hey rachel, here's a subpoena for your stuff. when you get around to, it or at least by the date that the grand jury's meeting, give us the stuff. there is a condition of trust, you may be under investigation, but we are allowing you to give it to us on your timetable. that doesn't happen in the search warrant. we need the stuff, we want the stuff, the fact that the stuff is out there can do grave nash damage to the national security of the united states. we're not just gonna ask you

for it, we're gonna take it. and so, that's a very big deal. subpoenas and search warrants are not mutually exclusive, but a search warrant is the most serious way that the department of justice and the fbi can get back something that needs or wants. and again, it has to be authorized by a federal judge. it's a very big deal. >> and chuck, if the new york times reporting is correct that this is about the classified documents. the alleged mishandling of classified documents, reported by the washington post, reporting it as a grand jury matter by the new york times back in may. if that is the basis for this search warrant, number one if the search warrant terms of evidence of other crimes, will help us that information? is that also equally in the possession unusable by the justice department. but also is that unusual that for the specific crime of mishandling classified information, you would see a tactic as aggressive as search warrant, as opposed to just a subpoena. you would see a rate of this magnitude, you see a former president not afforded informal deference for less intrusive means. mishandling classified

information does get prosecuted. but doesn't get prosecuted in ways like this? >> yes, and yes. so, mishandling classified information, retaining classified information, at its worse transmitting classified information with the intent to harm the national security of the new states. oh those are felonies and crimes, some more serious than others. but, if you don't trust someone to give you the stuff, then the way you get it back is through a search warrant. that is what is so astonishing here. the former president of the united states couldn't be trusted to return it. couldn't be trusted to return, it simply with the subpoena, and so to your earlier point, merrick garland who had to be involved in this, it would be remarkable if you are not, had to sign off on a search warrant to go take the stuff. listen, i handled very classified information. highly classified matters. lots of stuff in the department

are over classified, and with those crown jewels get out into the wrong hands, they can do grave damage to the national security of the night states. so if you don't trust someone to return it, rachel, what do you do? you ask a federal judge for permission to go to shake it. >> chuck, i mentioned that in the case of this former president, it almost feels hyperbole to say but i say literally. here in about the raid by the fbi and his home, you don't automatically know where the federal grand jury investigation may pertain to. because he does appear to be implicated in multiple investigations of multiple potential crimes. at least three of which are

under separate grand jury investigations that have been reported in the press. given that, given the january 6th investigations, for example. if the search warrant was effectuated about the classified documents investigation, but it turned up material related to other matters for which the president is potentially under federal investigation as well. are those continued -- to those have to be handed back? is that sort of fair game if they come across things that aren't, is that evidence of crimes -- that were at the crime they went to the federal judge to get the warrant for, today? >> it's a great question, and i apologize for making new ads to ask me twice, i felt answered previously. so yes, if you are lawfully present in the home, and you, our because the judge authorized the search warrant. and you are a lawfully taking documents, because it's listed in the search warrant has been potential evidence of the crime that you are investigating, and sure, it's all fair game. there are a number of doctrines

that apply once here lawfully in the home. now, this is an outlandish example, but if they sought off shotgun or math on the kitchen table, in distribution amounts, you can seize it because it's in plain view. but more recently or rationally, if you find other documents or other investigations were avenues, and there are lawfully seized by lawfully present agents. yes, rachel, fair game. >> chuck rosenberg, former senior fbi official, and justice department official chuck, thank you very much for time this evening. invaluable as always, but particularly tonight on this historic night, thank you. >> my pleasure. >> when this news broke tonight, one of the other people i immediately wanted to speak with, is a colleague who is on vacation. i, however, am i cool and unusual colleague who decided i would pursue anyway, even though she's not supposed to be working tonight, even though i must hear her reaction to this news. she is nicole wallace, the host of deadline white house, my friend who's been very kind to me but taking this call. thank you nikole. >> well, it's an act of god

that you are anchoring tonight, -- i'm very glad that you are just building on what chuck rosenberg said. the crown jewel of our democracy is the transfer of power, and the electoral count act is a lot, to sow is obstructing an official proceeding. and i think the tsunami of questions, far away the revelations on a tight night like tonight. but i think what we know now is that the precious news with which we -- thought lisa monaco viewed the ex president may be a mirage, may not be real. they view the potential for a criminal act, or crime to have been committed by that possession of classified materials a mar-a-lago, to be blind to the fact that the home at which those classified documents may be scrawled away in, in a safe where it is at the ex presidents house. we may just be learning the

very first thing that we will know from now forward, as your first words today made clear. we've never done this before, but we may be learning the very first things that there are no. we -- buy an ex american president. >> what do you think will happen in response to this news. we've seen the statement from former president trump tonight, helpfully confirming that the fbi raid had confirmed. hopefully confirming it. -- but also lasting lashing out and using all of his specific and typical -- repetitive words about how a gritty is by these efforts to hold him accountable, and investigated for various things. he has threatened, in the past, that if any prosecutor anywhere took any sort of act towards him, meaning towards indicting him, that his supporters, that he would expect his supporters in the street, for protests and

demonstrations of the size that the country never seen before. but do you think the reaction will be here? and how important is tonight versus what happens next? >> yeah, i was thinking of stephen ayers, we sat through his compelling testimony. he's an insurrectionist turned january 6th select committee public witness. i think it's an important window into how trump and his media allies, people like tucker carlsen reacted to the base. i hope that some other people who may be on the fence that endeavor, we look at the bill barr defying and laughing and making a mockery out of trump's lies and nonsense, calling them bs. over and over again while he hit hold court in a case deposition. everyone close to trump knows he's a liar, they are acutely aware of this attention from his handling classified information. he's been doing so, and you covered it essentially at the time, when lavrov wormed his way back into the oval office

in 2017. so the mishandling of classified information has been going on for so long. i think multiple national security advisers were either witness to it, or tried to stop it or stem it. but if that is the crime for which there is probable cause to get the search warrant, then we have our first window into how potential crimes of the ex president are viewed by this justice department. >> nicole wallace, the host of deadline white house, but not right now because she's on vacation and not working -- 4 pm eastern, nicole, back to your vacation, thank you for joining me on such short notice, i apologize. >> thank you, my friend. >> all right, i'm going to take a very quick break here, we're gonna have much more in the story as it develops over the course of this hour. i also need to tell you when we

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breaking news out of south florida tonight, where the home of former of president former president donald trump has just been rated by the fbi, where the leader of the fbi's -- senator chuck schumer of new york's the leader of the senate democrats, he's about to join us tonight. fresh off of a marathon overnight session of the senate, in which he and his democratic colleagues past what is being described as the most important and far-reaching legislation since the affordable care act, since obamacare 12 years ago. it was a year ago this week that senator schumer led passage of the big biden infrastructure bill. but, the bill schumer and the democrats just passed this weekend dwarfs even that. well, but they just passed of

the biggest climate legislation ever. also for the first time in 30 years of trying, the democrats finally passed a bill to negotiate lower drug prices. they'll have a new spending cap prescription drugs, and also caps insulin prices for people on medicare, to. it would've kept insulin prices for everybody, but republicans block that, which is astonishing. but this huge new bill, it's called the inflation reduction act. it's the latest in a string of winds for senator schumer and the democrats, and the biden administration on top of the really good jobs news in recent days, on top of the steady and sustained drop in gas prices, on top of the huge counterterrorism strike killing the head of al-qaeda. just in the last six weeks in congress, this congress passed the first bipartisan gun reform in decades. also, a huge bill on our competitiveness with china, and a big veterans health bill

which republicans initially tried to block, the one about burn pits exposure, they also proved finland and sweden to join nato with only minor republican shenanigans on that one. it's what the new york times calls a extraordinarily productive run for congress. it -- it's the chips act, they're trying to competitive's bill will be signed by biden tomorrow, the burn pit bill will be signed on wednesday, the huge climate and health bill, the senate passed this weekend, we will pass the house on friday, and then president biden will sign that went to right afterwards. it's just a remarkable flurry of productivity and action along held priorities. and it all is hitting alongside this jaw-dropping, unprecedented new news tonight that the home of the immediate former president, former republican president donald trump, his home has just been rated by the fbi. everything all at once, once senator chuck schumer joins us live from new york to talk about all of it. thank you so much for being with us, tonight i appreciate

you making the time. >> thanks, rachel appreciate being, back it's been a while. >> it has been. >> and your back under circumstances -- this news from south florida tonight that the fbi have searched the home of the former president. >> i know nothing about, it other than what i've just read like everybody else. so i think it's wise for me to withhold comment until we learn more. >> i appreciate that, i do have to tell you that one of your, not colleagues, but another congressional leader, the house republican leader kevin mccarthy just made a statement online about the fbi executing a search warrant of the former presidents home. he said when republicans take back the house, they will conduct immediate oversight of this department. then he says this, quote, attorney general garland, preserve your documents and clear your calendar. effectively threatening attorney general garland, in response to the fbi having executed the search warrant tonight. i know that you don't talk

about the substance of the matter at mar-a-lago, but i do want to ask your reaction to what mr. mccarthy said. >> look, none of us know the facts, and any comment is premature. >> okay, appreciate, it i will not pressure you further on it, because i understand that you're disciplined enough that will be futile on my part. >> yes it would. >> let me just ask you about when i laid out very quickly. about the string of call accomplishments that you have managed to pull off in the united states senate. this bill, the inflation production act which you and your colleagues were able to pass in the marathon session over the weekend. it's been called the largest, most important, significant legislation since the affordable care act. do you think it's that big a deal? do you see it in those terms? >> i do, some of even compared it to steven earlier in the 60s. but it's huge, and for years and decades, congress have said they need to do something about climate change, nothing happened.

we are gonna go after the pharma industry we were going to go after wealthy corporations and individuals who didn't pay their fair share of taxes, nothing happened. now all of these things, plus 9 million jobs, plus real deficit reduction, 300 billion dollars is happening at once. it's an amazing accomplishment, and particularly in light of the fact, rachel, we have a 50/50 senate, running from bernie sanders to joe manchin. we got no help for the republicans on this issue, they are intransigent. so it's something that my colleagues stuck together, every one of us, because we knew we had to get something done. it doesn't have everything we want, it doesn't have everything i want. but, if you ask the american people, are you anguishing and concern that we can't get congresses gridlocked and can't get anything done? well the six weeks of brushed that away. i'll make one more comment, rachel, about how that might affect things. we are now realizing that the republican party is become a maga trump republican party. the dobbs decision on choice, and the other supreme court

decisions on guns and on environments. the january 6th hearing we, the right-wing rhetoric which comes out of so many mainstream or formerly mainstream republican politicians. they don't like that. but they wanted to, know if we give the democrats power after november and keep the house democratic, increase the number of seats in the senate, will the democrats be able to get anything done? i think the last six weeks, with all the bills you've mentioned, and particularly this recent bill, answer with a resounding yes. democrats can get things done in a bipartisan way, when republicans will work with, us or our pressured for us. but on our own, if we have to. >> did you learn something through this process, particularly on this bill that you are just able to pass this weekend.

about, sort of, unlocking the lock that has been senator manchin of west virginia, senator sinema of arizona. those two sanders in particular have taken on, sort of outsized rolls both in terms of public attention, but also in terms of the the ability to decide what legislation was forward, and what doesn't. because of their willingness to stand with republicans on something, or at least not always stand with their democratic colleagues. do you feel like you have learned more about how to work with them in ways that -- >> bottom line, is in a 50/50 senate, anyone senator can block things. but you have to keep going at, it in finding ways to come together, in a way that affects the american people. if joe manchin and i disagree on climate. but this bill will reduce, when

it becomes law it is the most massive change in fighting global warming that we had. it will reduce the amount of carbon goes to the atmosphere by 2030 by 40%. now, the original was better, about 45%, so it's very close. i'll tell you the one thing i learned, it's a lesson my dad taught me. my dad passed away in november, but he is still with me. he had to work his whole life, with that junkie little exterminating business. he hated, it never complained, never resent people who got better brakes on him. but he taught me one thing, that if you work hard at something, when you're doing the right thing, and if you work hard and you persist, the way he put, it god will reward you and you will succeed. we have a lot of dead ends in this process. we kept persisting and persisting, and look what we've achieved, something really really fine. so my message, persist, don't give up, try to find that common ground. keep your principles, but make sure that you never give up. >> given the breaking news tonight, i feel like i need to ask you about something that i think that we can see looming on the horizon.

and we are starting to see very far-right trump supporting members of the party of the republican party, talking about things like going out of the justice department, going after the fbi. defunding are getting rid of it justice by me, getting rid of the fbi. we're seen a high-profile ambitious republican governors go after individual prosecutors, for not wanting to prosecute things that the governors want them prosecuted in their states. with the fbi writing the presidents house today at mar-a-lago, and i know that you don't talk about that in substance. it seems clear, but i think it seems obvious to both of us, that we're about to enter into a new and more intense era. the republicans, and the trump supporting republicans really raging more elon forsman, especially on the idea of federal law enforcement. i wonder if you've been thinking strategically about that, about defending those institutions, defending that part of the executive branch that enforces federal law against the sort of politicized

attacks that are coming their way? >> look, what's happened, and you put it well rachel, is a large chunk of the republicans, not all of them. but a large chunk of become maga republicans, trump republicans, with little respect for a rule of law. with little respect for the balance of power in institutions. frankly, with little respect for truth itself. when a third of all people and the american republicans now they believe that the election is stolen, but no evidence to that effect, that's proof of that. the good news on that front, is it's hurting them. just speaking in terms of preventing them from getting power in the house with, increasing in the senate in the house. the numbers in all of our elections is looking very, very good both on incumbents and our challengers. and that, is i, think because the american people are smelling that this republican party. the maga party is not the old republican party, the moving conservative, may have been pro business, may not have been very good on climate issues, but at least had some respect for democracy and rule of law. i think they're going to pay a price for this in the election,

and i think democrats should use it as an issue. but the rule of law, the protection of democracy, is a key issue here, and you better watch out if we give republicans power, in either the house or the senate. i think that's gonna be successful, along with the issues we're talking about, the accomplishments we were talking about on climate and on drugs, and on closing loopholes, and on job creation. we are going to go back, this is one smaller, thing it's not exactly on your topic. they blocked a 35-dollar price for insulin for non medicare people. we will come back and make them vote on that again. when they get taken over by the extremes, but they're on issues of democracy, or issues of making peoples lives better and reducing their cost, they are going to lose out. as little faith at it for vigilant, if we persist, if we don't give up and throw up our

hands, it's going to backfire on them. and i believe it will. >> senate majority leader chuck schumer, fresh off a remarkable string of winds in the senate on gun reform, and veterans health care, on china and competitiveness, on health care, on climate -- sorry, i know it's been a heck of a, run thanks for being with us tonight to talk about it. >> thank, you are very much enjoyed being on your show is always. >> thank you, all right, we will take one more quick break tonight. when we come back, we will get reaction live from a member of the january 6th investigation. to this breaking news, we're continue to cover tonight. the fbi search of donald trump 's home in south florida, mar-a-lago state, we'll be right back, stay with us. igh protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health. versus 16 grams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients for immune support. boost® high protein. ♪ got my hair got my head ♪ boos introducing newalso one a day multi+. a complete multivitamin plus an extra boost of support for your immunity, brain, and hair, skin & nails.

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vote yes on 27. breaking news tonight from former president donald trump's home in south florida, where the fbi today executed a search warrant. a source familiar with the matter tells nbc news this evening that it is the trump team's understanding that the investigation is related to the transfer of documents from the white house to mar-a-lago, after the trump presidency was over. that same source also confirming to nbc news tonight that boxes of documents were seized by fbi agents, as part of the dazed search. let's review -- it's also confirmed to nbc news, the ex president was at mar-a-lago, today for the majority of the day. and also, further confirming that the matter does indeed involve government records and the national archives. at the start of this, hour i mention that it was sort of hard to narrow down which federal grand jury

investigation may have led to the fbi raid on the former president's home. we do now have multiple sources from multiple directions, confirmed with the new york times first reported. that the investigation in question it led to the execution of the search warrant today does relate to the alleged mishandling of classified documents by the former president. something first reported in detail by the washington post, which started six months ago, and reported that not only had the national archives recovered boxes and boxes and boxes of material that trump had improperly taken from the white house, but that some of that material was not only highly classified, it was so highly classified that even its existence could not be described in an unclassified setting. >> joining us now is virginia democratic congressman elaine luria, she's a member of the january six investigation house of representatives. thanks for making time tonight, i really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> let me preface by getting your reaction on this news of the search of the president's

home. let me ask you if you know anything more about this than we've been able to report this evening. >> rachel, i start by saying as a member of the committee, i know nothing more are not directly involved in doj's process, i've actually learn some new details as you continue to report in the last hour. my immediate reaction is, in a statement, president trump said nothing like this is a ever haven't before. it truly is unprecedented, but it's unprecedented because in reaction to an unprecedented presidency. weve never before seen a president who sought to overturn an election, fake electors, put the pressure on the next, president simone amal to d. c.. the list is long, i don't -- wish viewers are well aware of the facts. even today, we see torn up pieces of paper in a toilet. another reporting of one of his aides saying he had eaten documents. the joint chiefs milley's comments about things that it happened at the end of the last administration.

unprecedented response is required to the unprecedented actions where we really need to have accountability. >> i hear you, and i under stand when you say that the january six investigation that you're part of in the house, and the justice department's actions are separating. you know special incited to the action, certainly not for knowledge of any other actions. under fire can ask you if there's a working relationship. if there's a functional working relationship between the justice department, as they pursue what appear to be multiple grand jury investigations involving the president. some of which pertain to his efforts to remain in power after he lost the election. and your own investigation. i know there's been some tension, or at least some statements by the justice department, expressing frustration that they have needs that you might be able to meet, if you're able to give them more of your materials. is that relationship constructive devine of now, that if they turn out material

in the search warrant, in executing the search warrant today but it's relevant to your investigation, they eventually get it? >> rachel, again, they are separate information, we don't have incidents wet one or multiple times raging. where the investigations are happening georgia, there's a lot of investigations going on. and we're negotiating with the department of justice in order to potentially facilitate some of the investigations that they have ongoing. but that is really all still a work in progress. i think two dynamic investigations happen in parallel, it's a complicated thing to parallel those. we want people to be held accountable, we want justice to be served, and we're working as well for his role as a congressional committee at the same time. >> congresswoman elaine luria, remember the january six investigation. thanks for time, tonight i appreciate you joining us and search node. >> joining us now is david rohde, he's a pulitzer prize -winning reporter, he's now executive editor for the new yorker. com. david, thanks for being time to

be here tonight, i was really glad when i heard him appeal to join us. >> thank you for having me. >> so, you've had great sourcing inside the justice department over the last few years. i just wanted to ask, if any of your reporting in recent months in recent weeks on this classified documents investigation. suggested that it was leading towards some dramatic action like this fbi raid today. is it your sense from your reporting, that this investigation is very serious, this action is some indication of where the investigation may be going. so the raises a surprise to me, but a government investigator told me that they felt that the clearest case against donald trump, was this mishandling of documents. that it was 15, boxes as jackie elementary explained earlier. trump was warned not to take these documents. if you remember, and ironically was the same type of

investigation that hillary clinton faced. was she intentionally mishandling classified information. and since i have is that the case against trump for mitt intentionally mishandling classified information, even stronger than the case against hillary clinton. he was told not to take these records, but he took them to florida. so i think that is the focus of the search, and that is the most likely -- if there is going to be a criminal charge, that appears to be the clearest one. >> and david, just as a follow-up to that, is it your sense that them pursuing this information with a search warrant, rather than just sending a subpoena, telling trump that he needs to collect these documents and send them in. indicates a certain level of urgency or aggressiveness, in terms of how fast are moving, and how they're approaching this? >> it's very aggressive. there's a sense of urgency, there's evidence every day that is just rain a documents, putting pictures of documents in toilets