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>> yeah. i know there is going to be more to come from the january 6 committee. congressman jamie raskin, thank you very much for being on this morning. >> thanks so much for having me. >> take care. it is just about 9:00 a.m. in the east coast, 6:00 a.m. out west as we embark on the fourth hour of "morning joe." the top story from coast to coast this morning, the fbi search of former donald j. trump's home. part of an investigation into whether he took classified documents from the white house. we have all of the angles covered and we'll get the latest from trump tower in new york city. jonathan lemire is still with us, best-selling author and joining the conversation former acting solicitor general and msnbc analyst neal katyal and legal analyst joyce vance, member of the "new york times" editorial board mara gay and
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host of "the beat," ari melber joins us this morning. joe. >> you know, ari melber, over the past several years, we have been a constitutional republic run by people who have little respect for the rule of law. a former president with his henchman who didn't think twice about breaking the law, didn't think twice about breaking constitutional norms or calling for the arrest of their political opponents, whether it was hillary clinton in 2016 or joe biden in 2020. in 2016 with chants at national conventions for doing far less than donald trump did when he was president of the united states. and then in 2020, donald trump is president of the united states, ordering his attorney general to arrest his political opponents. and i've heard it. i know you have. so many people, good democrats
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and independents and republicans asking the same question. is this guy above the law? well we wake up this morning, and we have an inkling. perhaps a belief that in the early morning hours of august 9th, 2022, that perhaps in america no man, not even a former president who tried a fas fascist over throw of the federal government, that no man, no billionaire, no powerful politician is above the law. what are your thoughts about what happened yesterday and what we expect in the coming weeks? >> well you put it powerfully, joe. and i think you're exactly right and that is why this matters in a way beyond the particulars of what is leaking out about the nature of the possible investigation. the lead up to this, that all matters and we'll get into that as journalists. but i think you remind us as we
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start the new day taking this in, joe, this is how the system works. this is what every citizen and resident is subject to. and while there are certain ways that we know a sitting president and even a former president could legally be a little different, they are not supposed to be wholly different. and this reasserts that and reiterates that and reaffirms that had there been any doubt. so i think that is very important. the person on the screen, the person who was once president, the person who has flouted the rule of law, democracy, the peaceful transfer of power and several other things we don't have time to mention is subject to that, to a lawful, judiciary supervised search of his residence for other material that doesn't belong to him, that is to say national security material that should be in the proper care taking of the government, and/or any other
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materials that a judge is approved to be found because they may be relevant to an investigation that we don't know all of the contours of. that is, as you say, it the rule of law and that is back in order today. >> so here is what we know so far. after the fbi conducted that search of former president trump's mar-a-lago home in florida, trump releasing a statement revealing the search took place yesterday. with agents even breaking into his safe. the fbi notified the secret service about the bureau's plans to execute the warrant just hours before agents searched trump's residence. that is according to a secret service official. let's go live to nbc news national correspondent gabe gutierrez. he's outside of trump tower in new york city. and former president trump put out a statement really alluding to something very different than what actually happened at mar-a-lago. where the secret service was warned and then they went in
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there and took documents and left. i mean, nobody likes that to happen to them. but they have the warrant and we'll find out what judge allows this today. but donald trump is making it sound like there was some sort of altercation or dramatic raid, i think or siege, he called it. is that telegraphing to his followers? what are you hearing? >> reporter: hi, there, mika. good morning. well, yes, as you said and i read the statement that former president trump put out yesterday. he called this a raid. ignoring the fact that a judge did sign off on this. this was a search of the mar-a-lago residence. but i'm here at trump tower where the former president left last night shortly after this news broke. he ignored questions from reporters as he was leaving and we understand he spent the night at his new jersey golf club. and you said, he put out the written statement where his response to this search, he called it prosecutorial
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misconduct, a weaponization of the justice system, an attack by radical left democrats who don't want me to run for president in 2024. now he did also comment very briefly joking about the situation, calling into a tele-rally for former alaska governor sarah palin who is now running for congress and called it a strange day and another day in paradise but said nothing further. so the former president putting out that written statement calling this a raid saying that his safe was broken into. this is a search warrant signed off by a judge. mika. >> nbc news national correspondent gabe gutierrez. thank you very much. jonathan lemire, your thoughts on this as trump uses this fbi search to his benefit, playing the victim and rallying the troops. >> well he certainly is never
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been shy before, mika, of playing the victim. his entire presidential persona was based on grievance and claiming that other outside forces were trying to get him. seeing that again now. claiming that institutions are aligned against him. the deep state, when of course we know when he was president, he was using presidential powers against his political opponents. and neal katyal, i want to get you on something buzzing last night and this morning since the news broke. the statute, i believe, that suggests if someone were to be found convicted of improperly handling classified material, that could be grounds as punishment to prevent them from ever holding office again. and i know this is litigated at least somewhat during the 2016 campaign with hillary clinton and her email server. so if you could give us an explainer as to what this means and how this case could or could not jeopardize trump's ability to seek the presidency again. >> there are various federal
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statutes including this destruction or mutilation statute of government documents that have as one of the punishments, disqualification from future office holding. there is a constitutional question coming from the supreme court case called powell versus mccormick, whether they are constitution because the argument is that the constitution specifies all of the qualifications for running for office and nothing more. powell though was about congressional qualifications, not about presidential and presumably donald trump isn't thinking of running for congress. so it is not clear to me that that -- that case applies here. but there is some debate about it. i think that is really just putting the cart way before the horse here, though. i they the key point, the big thing that we learned yesterday is that for the first time in american history, to my knowledge at least, the home of a former president has been searched, it is very likely that the reason for that search is because donald trump is the target of a federal
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investigation by the justice department, not some rando prosecution by a state official, and that a federal judge or federal magistrate has signed off on that and found probable cause to believe that a crime was committed and that there are documents there that are relevant to that. that is all big and historic and when donald trump and his minions say oh, this is a abusive and gust appo like, you have a copy of the warrant, it explains what they were looking for and what statutes were violated that they think were violated and what judge signs off on that. you called on obama to release the birth certificate on all sorts of nonsense. if you believe this is such an abuse, let us see the warrant and let us decide for ourselves. >> so neil's point, mara gay, this is the first time a former president has been -- had something like this happen. i think it is also the first time things are getting real for
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donald trump. what do you think? >> absolutely. i think it is important also that we pause and think about the stakes here. the level, the burden of proof for entering the home of a former president, to have a judge sign off on that -- >> right. >> -- that is extraordinary. so we don't know what is there. and in this country you're innocent until proven guilty and the former president is entitled to that as well. but it -- a judge would not sign off on that if there were not evidence. so that is the first thing. the second thing to think about here is the importance of holding someone accountable if a crime was committed. and i say that, it sounds obvious, but there are many americans right now on -- across the political spectrum who have seen this president get away with just about everything in many ways. and i think that the message that it sends is really important, that even the former president of the united states
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could be held accountable and should be and will be if there was a crime committed. it is important that if there was a crime committed, this president, former president be held accountable. if not, the entire system, i think, really is going to continue to suffer from a lack of confidence and trust from the american people, and i ty that is also at stake and that is not a legal question, that is about the faith in american institutions. how could you sit there as an american voter and have that confidence if the president himself cannot be within the law. so, nothing less than that is what is at stake here. >> joyce vance, ari melber is with us and has a question for you. >> yeah, joyce, i just wanted you to walk through a little more what it means if a federal prosecutor, something you have so much experience with, goes to a judge in this setting, what do they have to prove and what does it mean that a judge looks at
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this situation and including the fact that a sitting president is usually the top classification authority, but a former president is a citizen, walk us through what that means, what we might glean from that process? >> ari, i think it is the right place for us to focus today. because this is an extremely serious step. and these sorts of cases that focus on retention of classified materials, when someone isn't entitled to them, are rarely prosecuted. but the cases where there is prosecution is where someone intentionally hangs on to those documents and shares them with someone else. the classic example is general david petraeus, barack obama's cia chief who shared code word classified information with a girlfriend who was writing a book about him and about other information. that results in a prosecution. so in this setting, doj had to have probable cause to believe
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that a specific crime was committed. they would have to in the search warrant application specify what that violation was. and they have to be specific about providing evidence that a reasonable person would look at, and not only believe crime had a been committed but evidence of that crime would he be found in the place to be searched. and that regard i'm very interested in donald trump's admission that his private personal safe was searched. because that suggested that agents had acquired information and this has to be fresh information. it can't be months old. you get a search warrant, you're evidence has to be fresh and not stale in the language that prosecutors use. so they believe that there was something in there that was either evidence or fruits of a crime. that means that the government had to meet a very high burden to get this search warrant. the federal judge, i'm sure, scrutinized this application, the agents sworn affidavit, very carefully and having worked with
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the deputy attorney general lisa monaco on national security cases, i could tell you she's no slouch when it comes to internal review of these documents. very careful, very meticulous. her focus is always on are we getting this right. she's not someone who is results oriented. are we doing this right. have we dotted or i's and crossed our t's when it comes to establishing probable cause. so before agents and prosecutors were able to apply for this warrant, they have to have exhausted all of their other options. it has to have been clear there wouldn't be voluntary return of these materials. they have reason to believe that a grand jury subpoena ordering return of the materials would not have been complied with and perhaps that there was some risk of destruction. that is the scenario under which doj in this very serious setting would have decided to seek a search warrant and execute it on a former president's residence. >> so neil, i love for us, to
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take a 30,000 foot look at this right now. i know you've heard it, i talked about it off the top of the show, so many people discouraged time and time again, donald trump apparently ran afoul of the law, you look at the mueller investigation, which of course was twisted, the words were wretched out of context by the attorney general before it was even released. but when it was released we saw ten possible instances of obstruction of justice. but an old doj guideline led mueller to believe that a sitting president could not be indicted. at the same time, you said he wasn't exonerated. but yet you listen to republicans after that, and they suggest just the opposite. you have two prosecutors in manhattan, pursuing a prosecution against donald trump, had him dead to center, according to them, had him dead to center on crimes an then the
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manhattan d.a. just let's trump walk. i'm just curious, how important is it to you that what we saw yesterday suggests that perhaps merrick garland, perhaps this department of justice is not going to be intimidated by the threats and intimidated by the violence, intimidated by the suggestion that somehow donald trump, unlike the rest of us, is above the law. >> yeah, joe, it means everything. quite honestly, to me, as a lawyer, the reason i show up on these shows is because i believe so much in the rule of law. and what it signifies to me, the news yesterday, is that the justice department is returning to its historical position as a law enforcement agency above politics, trying to do the right thing and enforce the laws when they're violated. and you know, the best way i
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could put this is the reaction by the house gop which tweeted yesterday night, they said if they could do this to a former president, imagine what they could do to you, end quote. yeah. exactly. that is called the rule of law. that is the job, to do to you and me or the president or former president, what should be done. it is a same set of yard stick for everyone. and i've shared with you and others, my frustrations about the pace that merrick garland has had in the past months, and it is been tough. but he is meticulous and careful and if there is anyone you want to be taking this step of search, authorizing the search of a form he president's home in a possible criminal investigation into a former president, it is this guy. this is not some rabid partisan or something like that, this is a guy who republicans and democrats deeply respected, as a
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judge. he's not blood thirsty so if he's making this call and along with lisa monaco and i share everything about what was said about lisa, who i worked in two different administrations, that is the right team. nonpolitical, careful and meticulous and deliberate. >> neal katyal, joyce vance, thank you both very much. ari melber as well, thank you. we'll be watching you on "the beat" later this evening. really important morning to have you all on. thank you very much. and coming up, a florida state prosecutor suspended by governor ron desantis for depending abortion rights and, andrew warren will be our guest. plus speaker nancy pelosi reveals her initial reaction to the news of the fbi search of donald trump's florida home. and defends her trip to taiwan when "morning joe" returns.
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22 past the hour, look at los angeles this morning. 6:22 a.m. out west, good to you have all back on this tuesday. when four states are holding primaries today. voters in connecticut, minnesota, wisconsin and vermont will cast ballots for cre aces from gubernatorial to senate and house seats. minnesota is also holding a special election to fill the remaining five months of republican representative jim haggadorn's turn who pass add -- passed away in february. but wisconsin is the one to watch, where donald trump and mike pence are on the ballot. for more on this, let's bring in shaquille brewster who is in hartfield, wisconsin this morning. shaquille, what is the latest?
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>> reporter: good morning, well, mika, people are viewing this race as almost a proxy battle over the direction of the republican party. and that is because you two candidates receiving endorsements from the outside. you start with rebecca clay, she's the former lieutenant governor under scott walker with the support of vice president trump -- excuse me vice president pence. and then on the other side you have tim michaels, he's a businessman and he has the support of former donald trump. both ends have been here in the state. we've seen a lot of television ads that have gotten nasty in recent days an weeks and you've seen a lot of influence and based on the polling that we've been seeing lately, this seems to be an increasingly close race. it is going to be a tight margin and that is what both of the candidates were saying this morning. we saw both of them already cast their ballot and one thing that they've been saying and commenting on is that fbi search of mar-a-lago, trying to use that to draw their supporters to
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the polls. i want to you listen to a little bit of what we heard from the candidates today. >> you're reaction to the fbi raid -- >> you know, i found it shocking, unprecedented. i'm following it the same as you all this morning and i have not seen any new developments but i remain shocked by what i saw and what i'm hearing. i sure hope that the president and hi family are okay. >> your response to the raid of the former president's home yesterday? >> yeah, it is scary to wake up this morning and see that the -- the government has raided the house of the former president. if they could do it to the former president, they could do it to anybody and that is very concerning and that is why people are concerned about the direction that america is going. it is something that everyone should be concerned about. what could you do about it today? today you could go vote. and let your voice be heard. that is what elections are all about. >> reporter: this is a race to
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take on democratic governor tony evers, has national implications because this state has a republican legislation and it is evers what is vetoing legislation restricting voting or vetoing the legislation restricting voting rights that has been adding or contributing to abortion rights. so this is a race with major implications. >> and to the candidates, reminder, yes they can he do it to you. they have to a lot of t's crosses and i's dotted and based covered but that is the rule of law. tell me about ron johnson's campaign. do you have any updated there. >> the ron johnson campaign may say they are ready to go full steam ahead and we're seeing the democrat, the likely nominee lieutenant governor mandela barns who will be re-elected after the field cleared for him last week with the other candidates tropping out.
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both sides are saying they're ready for the general election match-up that we'll see. and look, this is going to be an expensive one. it is going to be a close one as well. and you have mandela barns who again, that field cleared for him. he has been fundraising after the field cleared. he raised about a million dollars. he will be out the stump tomorrow with the other democratic candidates in this state. and then you have ron johnson, he's an unpopular senator here in wisconsin when you look at the latest polling. he's under water in this state. but he is a senator that -- a senator that for the past two cycles, he's been able to defeat democrats despite him being behind in polling. so you have many people in the state saying, yes, he may be one of the most vulnerable senators in the country, a crucial seat when you look at the makeup of the senate after the midterm elections, but you have democrats saying that they need to take him seriously because of the success that he's been able to have in the past. mika, it is going to be an intense battle both for the
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governor's race and the senate race. a lot of money spent and a lot of eyes on what is happening here in wisconsin. >> thank you very much for that update. mara gay, i want to look at what democrats have in front of them as they head to the midterms. they have the president working on the economy, gas prices on the way down. the inflation reduction act, this pretty big success that joe biden can check off and democrats as well. and also abortion, how animating an issue do you think that will be in the lead to the midterms or do you think that republicans and democrats will both go to their corners on that issue. >> i think it is up to democrats to make that an issue that is front and center in these elections. there is no reason it shouldn't be because first of all it is an incredibly important issue to millions of americans. but also it really has to do with the fundamental rights in this country that are under attack and the fact that women are under attack and our
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democratic freedoms are also in peril here. so i think it is up to democrats to make that case. i think what we saw in kansas really should probably terrify republicans, especially those in -- those who have been making more extreme positions clear and who have been, you know, even stripping women for the ability for example who have chronic illnesses to get medication that they need. just in case they were to become pregnant. so i think that kind of political positioning is clearly unpopular with the american people. even unpopular with republicans and in swing states across the country, and even in important key races that aren't in swing states, for example there is a primary on the 23rd here in new york state and there are several key congressional races and it is going to be an issue even for republican women who are motivated by this. so it is up to the democrats to make that front and center. the republicans are going to try
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all they can to distract. i think the news from mar-a-lago last night may actually help them in their endeavors. i think we've already heard from republican officials and from candidates in swing states like wisconsin that the effort is to essentially, you know, make donald trump out to be the victim. and so i think we need to kind of steer away from that and talk about what is really on the ballot in each state. >> up next, how speaker nancy pelosi defends her trip to taiwan calling chinese president xi a scared bully. our interview with the speaker of the house when "morning joe" returns.
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and the passage of the inflation reduction act. >> i'm surprised that it flashed on my phone last evening. so i don't really have too much to say except that to have a -- a visit like that, you need a warrant, to have a warrant you need justification, and it said that no one is above the law, not even a president or a former president of the united states. but that -- all of this will be made known to us over time. but i have no knowledge of it. i did know there has been chatter, more than chatter about the presidential president's documents and how they must be preserved for history. and we'll see what the justification was for the raid. >> madam speaker, it is fasib ating, i want to taiwan with a group of members of congress to see the inauguration of president lee back in the 1990s
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and of course another house speaker went to taiwan, nobody really said much about it at all. ambassadors go to taiwan, americans go to taiwan. i would love to know what is the difference when i do it, when gingrich does it, when ambassadors do it, and then suddenly when you do it? suddenly this is like a world crisis. what is the difference here? >> well, it might -- i might even -- good morning, joe. i might even add that just a short while ago, a number of senators, bipartisan group of senators went and including the chair of the foreign relations committee mr. menendez. did anybody make a fuss? i don't think that the president of china should control the schedules of members of congress or anyone else who wants to visit taiwan. he's trying to isolate taiwan,
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you know they can't join the w.h.o. or they could make a very valuable contribution into terms of global hnl or other organizations. so he may try to keep them from attending meetings but he's not going to keep members of congress from visiting taiwan. we will not be accomplices to his isolation of taiwan. >> so what do you we learn from taiwan. president xi has taken the current in an even more autocratic direction over the past several years. >> yes. >> what have you learned by his overreaction to a member of congress's visit to taiwan? >> well, i think that he's in a fragile place. he's -- his problems with his economy, he's acting like a scared bully and this is before the meeting that where he will want to be re-elected. but we didn't do there to talk
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about china. we went there to talk about taiwan. taiwan eclipsed everything else that we did. the president has initiated the endopacific economic framework, we wanted to hear from the leaders of those countries, accepting their invitations to visit. and again, emphasizing that the parliament, inter-parliamentary actions that are important in our relationship. >> madam speaker, i would love to ask you about the inflation reduction act. and the politics of it. >> yes. >> will this be a component of the dems messaging leading up to the midterms, president biden struggling with low approval ratings, perhaps will this rally support and votes for democrats leading up to the midterms? what do you think? >> well, i think that you have to see it in the context of what this president has accomplished
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in the year and a half or more than a year and a half that he's been president. we did the rescue package, money in people's pockets, vaccinations in their arms, children back to school, people safely back to work. the infrastructure bill, to build, build america in a way that has equity and fairness and protected the environment. and then today we'll go to the white house for signing the chips and science bill which will make america more independent, and more self-reliant in terms of supply chain and the rest. and that will help bring down the cost of things is also helpful in fighting inflation. and now this legislation. and i always like to talk about is it starting at america's kitchen table. lower health care costs with the subsidies, lowering the cost of prescription drugs which is historic. this is the first time that we have been able to have a secretary, and we've been working on this for decades, first time we got to have the
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secretary negotiate for lower prices. this is a blow to the pharmaceutical companies. they've said that democrats are going to pay a price for doing this. for lowering the cost to americans, for prescription drugs. so this is about a fuller agenda of health care, making health care more affordable, making jobs for -- higher wages and good-paying jobs as well as saving and protecting our environment. it is vetty exciting. and when you see it in the context of all of the other legislation, and tomorrow signing the pact act to protect our veterans, it has a an integrity to it. and yes, it is about meeting the needs of america's working families, for the people, not politics, that is what we'll be talking about in the election. >> you cannot judge a bill for what it does not do. you respect it for what it does do and what this bill does do is quite remarkable.
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did we want more? of course. but we continue to work for more, of course. >>'s wants more. our interview with house speaker nancy pelosi. we do have breaking news. tennis legend serena williams said that she's ready to retire. that announcement just came out a vogue article published this morning if that interview they talks about expanding her family because her daughter wants to be a big sister and, quote, evolving away from tennis. williams has 23 grand slam titles. the most of any tennis player. man or women in the open era. the 41-year-old said this month's u.s. open will be her last tournament. jonathan lemire, what do you think? >> a true champion, one of the legends. not just of the game but of sports. and also an outspoken proponent advocates for women, especially
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black women giving child birth, equal treatment. she said she almost died while doing so because her conditions were ignored by the hospital there. but on the court, you know, truly a spectacular player and one that should be measured not up against degraph or djokovic or nadal or federer, but she's a pantheon of sport with the likes of michael jordan, tom brady, wayne gretzky and muhammad ali and the like. i hope she has a great run at fall and it is wonderful to see her go out on her own terms. >> what a career, and i say this from the work that i've been doing, with women over 50, over the past two years, i've learned so much that women like serena williams have a long runway, that evolving away from tennis, mara gay, could open the door to many more careers ahead of her or family time or whatever she
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chooses. >> you know, most of us will never of course be sports champions. but the joy and the thrill in watching people at the top of their game like serena williams play and kind of bend the mind in terms of what is possible is a universal thing and that is why human beings love sport. she's one of the reasons that the sport has taken off. i mean her contribution also goes just directly to tennis. which was not -- i mean you're looking at that crowd there. it is so much more diverse, it is so much more exciting than it ever has been and i can't wait to see what she does next. and of course there is that special excitement of a black woman, of watching someone not only succeed at the top of her game. >> absolutely. >> but also on her own terms. the piece today in vogue, i was reading it at commercial break. i love it. she's so human and that is so relatable. she said, i hate it. i hate i have to be at this
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cross roads. i'm torn, i don't want it to be over but i'm ready for what is next and saying know that this is it, the end of a story that started in compton, california, with a little black girl who just wanted to play tennis. i love to win. i love to battle. so you hear it all there from her and i can't wait to see what she does next. >> absolutely. up next, andrew warren joins us on why he thinks florida governor ron desantis is trying to overthrow democracy. that is next when "morning joe" returns. welcome to allstate where the safer you drive, the more you save like rachel here how am i looking? looking good! the most cautious driver we got am i there? no keep going how's that? i'll say when now? is that good? lots of cars have backup cameras now you know those are for amateurs there we go like a glove, girl
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china. another win under the president's belt. and of course not far into the distant future, the inflation reduction act which heads to the house. so we'll be watching that. we're watching fallout from another story developing in florida. our next guest is a twice elected state attorney who was suspended by governor ron desantis after he refused to enforce florida's 15-week ban on abortion and gender affirming care. he's now vowing not to go down without a fight. taking aim at the florida governor's actions and speaking out against these laws that aren't even on the books yet. including criminalizing gender affirming health care. joining us now, the recently suspended state attorney for hillsborough county, florida, andrew warren. thanks for joining us this morning. >> of course, thanks for having me. >> let me start by reading part of your op-ed for the
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"miami-herald." you do not mince words here. you say desantis suspended me for no greater cause than blind political ambition, the governor's illegal act is unwarranted and unconstitutional it is a blatant abuse of power by a republican governor, intent on governor intent on gaining national attention from the most extreme members of his own party as he looks to run for president in 2024. for desantis this is all political theater. let's look tough and kick out of office a prosecutor who is a democrat and who has embraced effective criminal justice policies he doesn't like. as desantis plays presidential politics he is playing with fire in undermining democracy in florida by trampling over constitutional rights and the will of the voters. is ron desantis is a threat to democracy overall? and how do you make this not
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personal between the two of you? >> it's not personal. this is about many more people than me. this isn't about one elected official being suspended. this is the overthrow of democracy. he is waging a war on free speech. everybody should be outraged. everybody should be worried, too. think about the groups that he has already attacked for speaking out against him. businesses, teachers, now publicer is vabt. who is next? it doesn't feel very free to a lot of us. >> jonathan? >> andrew, good morning. thank you for being here. walk us through what are the next steps here. obviously more than registered the disapproval in the op-ed. what are the legal options or
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political ones to use in the days ahead? >> we are going to fight this illegal order in the courts and in the senate where this is likely to end up as well. keep in mind it is not about me. this is about democracy. this has the potential to affect every single elected official democrat and republican in florida not just today. for years to come. that's why we had people come to the aid and support us at andrew warren fl.com. this is a fight for democracy and preserve the elections to make sure that we have the freedoms in florida and not subject to the tyrannical rule of a wannabe dictator. >> rumored to have political
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ambitions eyeing the white house, potentially as soon as 2024. talk to us about what sort of template this would set for him and the country were he able to get away with this. >> it is just a blatant abuse of power and furthering the political ambitions to out trump trump and violating the power of the fundamental sacred aspect of the democracy. people's vote matters. people elect the elected officials. even my 8-year-old understands that. what desantis is doing is undermining the fabric and the framework of our democracy. >> state attorney in florida andrew warren, thank you. keep us posted. now to some breaking news. sources say that former
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secretary of state mike pompeo will meet with the january 6 select committee today. the move comes as the commit tee demonstrated an increased interest in former members of president trump's cabinet. pompeo served at the director of the cia in the first year of the trump presidency. meanwhile former president trump will have dinner with house republicans in new jersey. republican study chairman jim banks will lead a dozen members to new jersey for the meeting with the former president. so i guess he'll be staying in bedminster for a while. mar-a-lago probably doesn't feel comfortable to him. >> that may be so. but this is interesting. not surprising that a group of
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republicans who tied themselves to trump to have the show of support. what we heard from mccarthy and others last night claiming that this search of mar-a-lago politically motivated and down play the rule of law suggesting that maybe president trump is above the rule of law. the january 6 committee work is far from done. no hearings but we'll hear from them again in the fall maybe more and still talking to key members of the trump administration. pompeo not in the white house on january 6 but still part of the administration and raised eyebrows that he is going along with this today and in part because pompeo like desantis we discussed also has 2024 ambitions and he has sent signals to others to run even if
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trump does, too. >> yes. mara gay, between the attorney general and january 6 committee there's a lot swirling around trump but i think things got real for him. >> no surprise that he is seeking refuge in the bosom of senate republicans. people who really need his support in their own races. you will see him surround himself with psychofants to protect him and it could be interesting in terms of the state of mind facing potential criminal prosecution. >> yeah. attorney general merrick garland made it very clear no man is above the law. that does it for us this morning. jose diaz-balart picks up msnbc's live coverage after a quick break.
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19 children murdered in a senseless act of evil here. >> sweden and finland have submitted letters to join nato. >> we have new investigation about what happened during this mass shooting. >> baby formula is on the way. >> voters are voting. >> major developments in the january 6 investigation. >> throughout the day that crowd has been growing. good morning. 10:00 a.m. eastern. 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we are keeping a close eye on the white house where president biden is set to sign the chips act, a bipartisan bill to address the computer chip shortage. we'll monitor the event and bring you any major headlines. but we begin with the search by the