♪♪ good day, everyone. this is "andrea mitchell reports" in washington. we are following the fast moving developments on the stunning news from mar-a-lago that for the first time in american history, the fbi has conducted a search of the home of a former president of the united states. a source familiar with the matter tells nbc news the warrant was tied to classified information that trump allegedly took with him from washington to palm beach after leaving the white house on inauguration day in 2021. nbc news has learned that the fbi notified trump's secret service detail guarding the property in advance and presented their warrant from a

judge permitting them to enter. the search by a large uniformed team -- ununiformed team, excuse me, took hours and included getting into trump's safe. mr. trump who announced the search in a statement on his website railed against it claiming prosecutorial misconduct and political persecution. he was in manhattan at the time in preparation for an upcoming deposition, part of the civil investigation by the new york state attorney's office into his organization's finances. the former president's lawyer was at the scene in florida and called it an unannounced raid to seize paper. white house officials tell nbc news they had no prior knowledge and justice department officials are refusing to comment. we have the story completely covered throughout this hour, including a deep dive with legal experts and historian michael beschloss, as well as the political fallout. we begin with nbc's kerry

sanders, ken dilanian, ryan reilly and josh daucey. we did hear from donald trump during -- he called in to a rally for sarah palin running for election. >> another day in paradise. this was a strange day. you probably read about it. >> strange, indeed, i guess, ken dilanian, we can agree do that. >> we can. while president trump is talking, i would encourage him to release the search warrant, the justification the fbi gave to the judge that probable cause existed to believe evidence of a crime is present there in mar-a-lago. we believe -- we are told this is in part about records that donald trump took from the white house and was keeping out there at his home in mar-a-lago.

some classified. there's an issue about if he is the president, couldn't he declassify the records? there are statutes that make it a crime to just take government records, whether classified or not. there's a lot of interesting implications. this was such a huge decision by the department of justice. they were the ones that had to decide that this was the best way to get the records, that a simple subpoena or demand for the records was not sufficient. they had reason to suspect -- often, it's because somebody was lying to them or they weren't getting the straight story. they felt like the only way was send fbi agents, who had the authority to break down the door. they didn't do it in this case. but that's the authority they have. >> they didn't have to. the secret service had the keys. it was one part of government to another part of agent. fbi agents to the head of the detail, which is also i can imagine causing stir in trump world. >> that's right. donald trump was in new york city. one of his employees was. we are told at least one of his

lawyers was present. these fbi agents were there for hours. trump is the source of the claim that they broke into a safe. they are not corroborating that. it's something that would be consistent with what they would do if they didn't have the combination. >> josh, you and your "washington post" team have extensive reporting going back to february. you first reported that boxes that trump held at mar-a-lago, the national archives wanted returned, included and had returned 15 boxes that had been returned to the national archives, included classified documents, some classified as high as top secret. give us the back ground here. >> yeah. earlier this year, the national archives sent a team down to the former president's estate to retrieve materials that he took with him improperly when he left office. some of the materials were described to us as mundane, schedules, dinner menus, cocktail napkins. others were more sensitive. there were pages, according to

my colleague, of inventory that would list classified documents. some were top secret. some of them included highly sensitive government documents and mementos he wanted. former kim jong-un letters. his letter with former president obama. various things that belonged to the government. we reported throughout his presidency, former aides said he was not careful when handling classified documents and sensitive documents. he would often rip things up, shred them. it was reported that he would flush them down the toilet. there was a culture around the former president of not handling documents carefully. he took so many of them with him. they had to send a crew, an unprecedented step, down to retrieve. >> ryan, anything at this level, as ken alluded to, was approved by merrick garland.

it had to be approved. at the very top levels of the justice department. it was an extraordinary step to take. it indicates to every lawyer who examined this, all of our experts -- we will talk to chuck rosenberg coming up -- that there had been a failure of cooperation after those initial 15 boxes went to the national archives, that no matter how many conversations took place with his lawyers, they were not turning over everything that the government had reason to believe and persuaded a judge of probable cause that there was criminal evidence to be found on that property, or they would not have gotten the warrant. >> that's right. the government knows, merrick garland knows how thissing will be scrutinized, especially in republicans take over congress. they are dotting all of the is and crossing the ts. it's going to be highly scrutinized.

we have seen that from kevin mccarthy, for example, saying clear your calendar. they knew this was going to be a major fight. they are making sure they are following the rules and protocols that are supposed to be followed in this situation. it was very difficult to get confirmation it happened. imagine all of the cooks in the kitchen in something like this. there are a lot of people involved, entities involved. secret service was notified. short notice ahead of time. the fact that none of this leaked out. no one from the media got to the property until after the search warrant was executed. even though they were there for a significant amount of time. most of what we learned about this is coming out of trump world, shows doj is trying to make sure this is by the book, given how unprecedented this is in american history. >> we would not have known about it if the president had not announced it on his website. he was first to announce all of this. kerry sanders in mar-a-lago, as recently as this morning, during your "today" appearance, we saw

how the trump supporters out there were out in full. they were standing behind you. apparently, more threatening it looked. you were powering through it in your conversations with savannah guthrie. they are really angry. they are out in full force. >> reporter: i moved to a different position because there was so much commotion, i guess you would say, seemingly specifically targeted at reporters like myself. the blasting of horns that are from trains. people just screaming at us. in some cases, i'm not sure if they are trump supporters or folks who want to cause problems. we moved to a different location. we are just across the water from mar-a-lago. mar-a-lago itself is quiet, as you have reported. the former president, donald trump, was not here when this was executed, the search warrant was executed. the fbi did notify the secret service. he does have that protection as a former president.

notified them they were coming. it's important to sort of describe how low-key it was. much of this coming from sources to nbc news. but the fbi did not come in with their blue jackets with the fbi blazened on the back. if you had been there and saw them coming in, it would look like a large group of people had arrived. would you not know without hearing them they were the fbi serving a search warrant. a search warrant that required a federal judge to hear that there was probable cause to look for these documents, these alleged documents that were taken. the investigates are looking to see if they have found those documents that should not have been here, because of their classified nature. today, things are quiet. aside from the protesters here. many of the details are still unfolding. but as you heard from many people on this broadcast here today, andrea, there's a lot we do not know and we're waiting to find out. much of that will be revealed, i

think, as this process moves along. in this particular case, a process that is not completely out in the open. as you pointed out appropriately, if the former president had not set out his 340-word statement, we likely would not have known this happened. >> very glad you made those points. ken dilanian, the justice department has its hands tied. they are not supposed to comment on anybody under investigation until and if there were an indictment. that was the violation that jim comey committed as fbi director in the case of hillary clinton to a great deal of criticism internally from justice and externally from the political world and the democratic sphere. they can't really comment as much as commentators and pundits may want a comment from them. it's not appropriate for them to comment in any fashion.

and yet, you have an unrestrain unrestrained amount online, threatening comments, in fact. kevin mccarthy, you have to say an outrageous attack on merrick garland. brace yourself when we take over. clear your calendar, we will investigate you. merrick garland is the most careful, judicious to a fault some would say attorney general in this case. >> it's -- your point about them not being able to comment is particularly true in a case involving national security and classified documents and potential counterintelligence issues. they are hamstrung. it's worth pointing out the context here as these republicans make these charges. the fbi was reeling from the fallout of the trump russia investigation where an fbi lawyer was prosecuted and had to admit to a felony and his career was over.

other people were fired. there was controversy. there was an inspector general report. they are super careful when it comes to these matters at this point. christopher wray says we are trying to do the right thing in the right way. that sounds like boy scout talk, but people take it to heart. they saw what could happen if they weren't careful. we will see in the end what exactly this affidavit says. the idea that this is just some political witch hunt, there's no evidence to support that. >> that was because of the way the initial warrant was sought and granted based on false claims to a judge. >> right. >> it wasn't the judge's fault. the way that was pursued led to what you pointed out. also, the fact that whether or not a document is classified, a president is not permitted under a 1978 law, post-nixon law, not permitted to take any records

with him. >> government officials have been sent to prison for doing that over the years. >> to all of you, thank you very much. probable cause, what does that mean? what it would take for a judge to sign a warrant to sent the fbi to a former president's home, what does it tell us? we will talk to our legal experts coming up next. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports." this is msnbc. drea mitchell reports." this is msnbc. when pain says, “it's time to go home” “i say, “not yet”. ♪ ♪ aleve. who do you take it for? with age comes more... get more with neutrogena® retinol pro plus. a powerful .5% retinol that's also gentle on skin. for wrinkle results in one week. neutrogena®. for people with skin.

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the fbi search of former president's trump's mar-a-lago estate caught everyone by surprise. the department of justice is still tight-lipped about the reason for the search warrant. what did it take to issue such an unprecedented search? what could they be looking for? joining me now some of the most

experienced former prosecutors and investigators. former u.s. attorney, chuck rosenberg, joyce vance, frank figliuzzi. chuck, first to you. the former president is claiming he has the right to declassify documents. he declassified them before he removed them from the white house. theoretically, if he did declassify them before noon on january 20th, when he stopped becoming president, of course, does that exonerate him from any potential violation of mishandling classified documents? >> well, andrea, it's a great question. a bit of a theoretical one. a sitting president has the right, the privilege, the authority to classify and declassify the entire intelligence structure built for the ultimate consumer, the president. whether or not he did declassify it is a factual question. we don't know the answer to it. this may sound like a conjecture

rabbit hole, but i guess it's also possible that president biden could reclassify documents. president george w. bush did that shortly after 9/11, reclassified certain documents for other reasons, not nefarious. sitting presidents have that authority. that authority now resides with mr. biden. but we don't know what the basis for the search warrant was specifically, what statute he allegedly violated. remember, at this stage, the fbi and prosecutors only need to show probable cause. it's an investigative step. it's not the final step where the burden of proof is necessary for conviction. we need to see the affidavit and understand more precisely the basis for the warrant. >> joyce vance, donald trump said his safe was searched. how significant is that? is that just part of what you

would assume, since they established probable cause, that they were looking for something and that something -- some evidence that could be criminal was somewhere on the property and they could search anywhere they wanted? >> well, it's interesting as a tidbit. it gives us clues. we need to acknowledge that this is filtered through the former president's interpretation of events. there's no way of knowing whether this is accurate. it's entirely possible that the fbi had access to the safe, that they were able to get into it without, as the president -- the former president said, breaking it open. maybe they did have to do that to get inside. what it tells us is that they had probable cause to search for evidence of crimes that they believed would be found inside of the safe or something like a safe. when prosecutors think about this, when you are executing a search warrant, you can advise

agents to look anyplace, where the items you have probable to cause for search could be. that means that if you are looking for, let's be silly and say a stolen elephant, you can't look for a stolen elephant inside of a safe because it wouldn't fit there. but you can look for documents. it's a little bit of a tip-off as to what they were entitled to search for. >> frank, take us behind the scenes, how does the fbi execute these search warrants, in this case, they were notifying the secret service, so it was one branch of government to another branch of government, secret service guards, every property of a former president, so they would be at trump tower, at bedminster and at mar-a-lago, and they were clearly there. >> yes. after everyone signed off in washington and then at the u.s. attorney's office or doj and then after, of course, the agents have spent time with the u.s. federal judge or magistrate

and that judge or magistrate has been convinced and asked all their questions about whether this is truly necessary and every other possible resolution has been exhausted, then you've got to get your evidence team together. largely, this was likely out of fbi miami. the fifth largest fbi largest in the united states. an outstanding, experienced team. you want your best folks on this, particularly those with documents experience, maybe even electronic device experience. whatever is certified and authorized to search in the warrant. you want to be secure in your search. they take things very seriously regarding safety and security. you may have recalled that not long ago fbi miami actually lost two agents. they were killed executing a warrant involving child pornography. not something in terms of fatality that happens everyday. it's a violent environment down there. they would make sure secret

service understands they are coming in armed, with a lawful court authorized search warrant. they will ask questions likely about security there, private mar-a-lago security. cameras that might exist to secure the resort side of things, that might exist even belonging to the secret service that might have recorded the actions of the agents and there might have been a discussion about whether or not those cameras would remain on or off. all of that has to go into it. there's a methodical cataloging of all the documents and things that they took, usually photographing things before and after to help against allegations that they broke something or to prove they needed to break something. then the receipts -- the return handed back to trump's attorneys showing them what they took. >> chuck, how specific even to get the warrant do they have to categorize what the evidence is and to establish the probable cause?

>> yeah, so probable cause is the lowest threshold in the criminal law. it means more or less, andrea, probably. but nevertheless, with a warrant like this, for a search target like mr. trump, i'm convinced that this would be an exhaustive recitation of facts, everything the government has and not only would it be exhaustive, it would have been -- in other words, down the want to go to a judge in a case like this with merely probable cause. unless, of course, it's all they have. you want to go to the judge and show that there's a compelling reason to search. the fourth amendment doesn't require compelling evidence. it requires probable cause. but as a federal prosecutor -- joyce knows this and frank knows this -- we often put in more detail than the fourth amendment would require. and as frank alluded, to satisfy any question or any concern that

the federal judge may have. so you are asking for things with specificity and with a strong showing that a crime was committed and that you are going to find evidence of the crime at the place you are asking to search. >> and, joyce, the ways and means committee, on a different issue, the ways and means committee on the house side has just tweeted out that the d.c. court of appeals has ruled that the law is on its side in seeking trump's tax returns. we expect to receive the tax returns and audit files immediately. this goes all the way back. it went up to the supreme court. they referred it back to the appeals court for a final decision. this does appear to be final, that he is going to have to turn over his tax returns to the house ways and means committee. right? >> yeah. i'm not certain that it's quite that final yet.

it's possible that trump could ask the court to reconsider this ruling and that there could be some additional appellate maneuvering that might stay the time a little bit. but this is a very compelling 30-plus page opinion from the court of appeals. they definitely go through each of trump's claims and reject them holding that when the law says that materials shall be turned over to the committee, it means that they shall be turned over as long as there's a legitimate legislative purpose. and they say the committee is well within its rights here, because it has authority over presidential audit measures. it looks like one way or the other, the committee will get what it's asked for soon. >> chuck, last night you said you were astonished by this happening. you found it astonishing. you also talked about how meticulous it has to be in this case to meet the standard and that merrick garland, contrary

to all of the accusations and what kevin mccarthy said, that merrick garland would be so careful about this as would the fbi, especially because of the recent history where the fbi did stumble and had a bad warrant. take us through that. >> yeah, absolutely. look, we always try to be careful as prosecutors and agents. i have always tried to be careful with any search warrant, with any arrest warrant, any indictment, any presentation of evidence. that's in our nature. that's what we should do. that's what we try to do. that said, andrea, this is quite literally unprecedented. it's a former president of the united states. a case like this is going to be under enormous scrutiny. the affidavit has to be tight and compelling. you have to have multiple people review it for accuracy. so it is astonishing. it hasn't happened before.

that's astonishing. >> and the issue of national security, how important is it for national security documents, that law that you can -- about handling or mishandling national security classified documents? chuck? >> right. so there are several ways to think about it. there are criminal penalties attached to retaining documents that you shouldn't retain, if they are classified, mishandling them. in the worst case transmitting them to a foreign power to try to injury the united states. there's a suite of crimes. we don't know which crime was specified in the affidavit. we will learn that at some point. classified information is extraordinarily serious in some cases. and it has to be handled with great care. if that wasn't done and it wasn't done on purpose, that could be a crime. >> chuck, joyce, frank, our best experts, thank you all very

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dozens of people protested in support of former president trump last night in florida, gathering outside his mar-a-lago residence after it was searched by the fbi. ben collins is reporting this was the top comment on the search on the pro-trump site the donald last night. quote, lock and load with references to a civil war in that chat thread and threatening language is not all anonymous. this pro-trump influencer posted, tomorrow is war, to his public twitter account. ben collins joins us now along with clint watts. ben, there's been a lot of violent chatter online. how would you chair this after this broke to what was happening around january 6? >> it's the worth since january 6th. there was a time after january 6th, where these people rr afraid of the feds. that's not the case at all anymore.

on extremist telegrams like america first, which is basically an extremist white national movement and proud boys, they are talking about the civil war and how it's imminent to them. that's what's happening right now in these spaces. they are gearing up for something big. the only solace i have to offer is that they don't have clear plans yet. these people don't have a clear date. there's no january 6th thing to circle on a calendar. there's no one person who is barking out directions like it was happening in the das and weeks before january 6. the violent rhetoric is louder than ever. >> clint, republican representative member of congress dan bishop of north carolina said, quote, republicans must smash the fbi into a million pieces. how concerned are you with rhetoric like that from a member of congress? tell us how the fbi plans these types of searches, especially in this climate, one thing is that

they were not uniform with those jackets with the yellow lettering of fbi on them. apparently they said out of respect to the former president. >> yeah. i would say they took a lot of caution on this one. they would probably not take in most other situations. the first thing is, one, they didn't notify a lot of people until the last minute. the second is, in terms of how they dress. we think of the tv scenarios where you see large raids where they go through with many fbi agents. not the case yesterday. they tried to keep it limited in scope. the more dangerous trend, which goes to what ben was talking about, is the demonization of law enforcement over the years. it's a little odd to watch them be pro-law enforcement at the same time talking about attacking fbi law enforcement. when you look at the violent rhetoric, more there is, the more the chance of what's known as sar cass -- sarcastic

violent. i think that's the big concern at least at this point. i would like to note that there's a foreign element to this. we have seen in the case of the covid-19 lockdowns, january 6, election 2020, whether russia, iran or china using social media to try to incite conflict. you see this whenever crowds are worked up. it's a great opportunity for a foreign power to just put a pin prick in there and push someone towards violence. >> ben, we saw certainly in 2016 that russians mimicked rallies claiming to be black lives matters, they used false flags to try to further divide an already divided american political society. >> that's true. they were an accelerant in 2016. they continue to be. the larger picture is that there are a lot of americans right now

who are extraordinarily angry, who are willing to join paly shas, willing to act on their own. they believe this is the end of the american way of life. that's what you hear in these spaces. they think that this is -- the one thing you keep hearing is that they have crossed the rubicon. this is past the point of no return. they are in a full-fledged war. that's the thing you are hearing this morning. if you are hearing this from people like steven crowder, who has 6 million youtube subscribers, can you imagine how bad it is in these telegram spaces? i can tell you, it's worse than you would imagine. >> ben collins, clint watts, thank you. spin cycle. with just three months to the midterms, how does all of this play into the midterm -- the whole political dialogue? will both parties try to use the fbi search of the former president's home to its own

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the fbi search of president trump's florida home is sparking a furious political reaction from him and his supports as well as potential republican rivals in 2024. democratic leaders determined to say as little as possible. joining me now, robert gibbs, former white house press secretary to president obama and brandon buck. i think it's fair to say, we have never seen anything like this. let's start with trump. does this fbi search ramp up his timetable for declaring a 2024 run, make it more advantageous to become a candidate and if he can win avoid prosecution on anything? >> it might speed up his time line. the big affect is it may push

out some of his rivals. a lot of early chatter about this that puts this at risk, maybe this helps mike desantis, hurts mike pence, that's silly. as you have seen, republicans are rallying around him. this is right up donald trump's alley. he is able to play the victim card. he is able to circle -- have people circle wagons based on years of groundwork that has been laid that there's a deep state, there are forces within the government that can out to get him. this is vintage trump. i think you are seeing people rally around him. i think that he is probably stronger than ever. i always thought he was going to get in. i always thought he was going to be the most likely nominee. i think you can put that higher percentage now. this is very much -- i don't want to say this is necessarily helpful for him in the long-term in the general. but in the short-term as we look at a republican presidential primary, this is definitely good news for him. >> the best tell of that might

be mike pence's tweets. i share the deep concern of millions of americans over the unprecedented search of the personal residence of president trump. month former president of the united states has been subject to a raid of their personal residence in american history. as you point out, and robert gibbs knows, trump knows how to play the martyr role and to dial up what he would call a deep left wing conspiracy. robert? >> yeah. i think there's no doubt. the fact that donald trump sought to get out there as quickly as he could and characterize this as a raid, to describe it as they broke into his safe, despite the fact that his son said there's nothing in the safe. i think there's no doubt that he is right that donald trump is using this and will use this to foment excitement around his presumed predicament and likely

use it to strength his own political position. my hunch is it does move his timetable up. he would love to have any investigation into wrongdoing, january 6, this, anything else viewed completely through a partisan lens, which puts democrats and republicans in their separate corners, rather than having people evaluate the evidence and the facts as they exist. i think donald trump will use -- will craft this to his advantage. i don't doubt -- i have friends who have texted me in the last 12 hours that have said, i'm glad donald trump is getting what he has been able to get away with for so long. i have no doubt it gets everybody a little excited. >> it could energize his base. no question about that. let me play something that speaker pelosi said in response to savannah guthrie asking about the way kevin mccarthy warned

merrick garland they will come after him. >> i think that whatever the leader is saying is probably idle. we believe in the rule of law. that's what our country is about. no person is above the law. not even the president of the united states. not even a former president of the united states. >> as they say, it could energize both bases. i think we will have to leave it there. thanks so much to both of you. the history lessons, 48 years to the day, richard nixon walked out of the white house after resigning. another former president finding himself in hot water after an unprecedented event. we will put things in historical perspective coming up next.

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a attempt to take his tapes and papers with him. 48 years ago on this very day, august 9, 1974, then president nixon under the threat of being removed became the first president to resign while in office. flashing two peace signs before helicopter. he had announced his resignation the night before. >> i have never been a quitter. to leave office before my term is completed is abhorrent to every instinct in my body. but as president, i must put the interest of america first. therefore, i shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow. vice president ford will be sworn in as president at that hour in this office. >> still amaing to watch that. joining us is historian michael

besh lon and susan page. so michael, let's start with the historic moment when you heard this last night. what were you thinking? how did you react? seeing it in the light of day with everything that's transpired. >> two things. you hear a lot of people saying we have never seen before in history the household of a president of the united states being searched by the fbi. and that is true. we must never say that without also including the last half of the sentence, which is we have never seen a president behave like donald trump with his contempt and indifference to the law. and one thing we're going to see as time goes on presumably in the next few days is exactly what brought this on. all i can tell you is that there's no way merrick garland would have approved unless there's an overwhelming legal

reason to send in the fbi because he knows it is possible that the republicans could take over at least the house this fall, so rough on opt the administration that they might even try to vote to turn the lights out to the department of justice. if you heard kevin mccarthy today threatening the attorney general, which is something once again we have never, ever heard before in history something as ugly as that, that gives you the impression that merrick garland would have done this very carefully. >> let's talk about the national security implications. national security documents, but any presidential records are supposed to be left behind. in history there's been a couple rare instances where classified information is mishandled. hillary clinton was accused of that and exonerated two days before the election by the fbi director.

>> nothing that compares with this, though. we have never seen the former president be forced to give back 15 boxes of documents to the national archives. merrick garland has been such a cautious ju judicious attorney general, to the frustration of democrats who wanted him to be more active against donald trump that we assume there is something very compelling that depose to the national security interest of the united states. but i think it's important we find out what it was. we really need more information about the reasoning behind the warrant and the results of executing it because this was really such a dropping development last night. >> if there were top secret documents, as "the washington post" first reported last february, the serious implications depending on what they were. and the motivation behind taking them could just spin out. we don't know.

and critics were so dismayed and had dashed expectations on the mueller probe. this may not lead to anything at all, but it certainly is does going well with his house to have been searched in this unprecedented way. it must have been pretty bad because otherwise garland and justice would not have risked this. what were these documents that we're talking about. we have no idea. let me give you a few examples of what they could be. the president has access to documents that tell about the disposition of our nuclear weapons and our nuclear codes. what if one of those documents had that kind of information and the next president wanted to share that with a hostile intelligence service or let's say the president got a memo on ways that the fbi and department of justice were going after organized crime and let's say that the president again we have no evidence of this as so, but

it shows how dangerous this can be, give it is to people who want to find out how the government may be going after them. or a list of cia agents that you may give to another power that wants to know what agents are on its territory. these documents are given to get other commercial advantage. i'm not suggesting we have any evidence that any of this happened, but this is why there's a presidential records act because this is not just like an overdue book getting a library fine. losing some of these documents or giving them to someone else who should not have them are having it outside the government system as donald trump has done at mar-a-lago, we can get really hurt. >> he had such casual behavior

towards truly classified information when he invited the russian ambassador and the foreign minister into the oval office. and when he was discussing on the patio and having a national security council meeting on how to respond, so his casual behavior to his classification is well known and quite obvious. and vladimir putin. thank you, both. this is going to continue for the months to come. thank you. amazing day in american history and we have the best analysts on this special edition. thank you so much. msnbc is going to continue covering these historic events throughout the day and the days to come. follow us online on facebook and on twitter. "chris jansing reports" starts right after this. "cishr jansing reports" starts right after this the morning blocks excess acid production for a full 24 hours.

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hello, everyone, i'm chris jansing in new york city. today we are in uncharted for toir. details are still coming in, but one thing is clear. the fbi search at marla goo go has no parallel. who may