good to be with you. i'm katy tur. it is a big day. one we will surely remember. not necessarily because of what we know but what we do not know. the fbi executed a search warrant of mar-a-lago yesterday but we still don't know exactly what they were looking for. we have an idea. a source familiar with the matter has confirmed to nbc news, the search was tied to classified information. donald trump allegedly took with him from the white house to his florida home in january 2021. we also have an idea that in order to get an unprecedented warrant like that, at the former president's private home and club, investigators would likely have to get approval from the very top, from officials like a.g. merrick garland and trump

appointed christopher wray, before they got the okay from a federal judge. because of that, it certainly feels like we're on the cusp of something big. what that something is is unclear. is it a criminal indictment? legal experts say it is way too soon to say. is it a reinvigoration of president trump's political possibilities in 2024. there was a new york time polling that suggested that half of republican voters wanted someone else to run for president. someone new. is it the start of a series of wrenching politically motivated house investigations into the doj and the fbi? house republicans are promising it will be if they regain control in november. or is it the start of something ugly. something violent. in the hours after the news broke online, searches for civil war spiked. it could be all of these things and it could be none of these

things. so let us sort out what we can. joining us now is nbc news correspondent vaughan hillyard who is across the lagoon in west palm beach for us. also, nbc news justice reporter ryan riley on all thing january 6th. ashley parker, senior correspondent at the "washington post," and an msnbc political analyst, ashley, as you know, has been reporting on donald trump since his first campaign all the way back in 2015. and an dry wiceman, a fellow mueller prosecutor in the ties to russia, and an msnbc legal analyst. everybody, thank you. andrew, i want to start with you since you are the expert here. you've had about a day to digest this. i want to set expectations. what can we say about this search as of right now? >> i think there are a few things that we do know. first, a federal judge clearly found that there was probable

cause of a crime and there would be probable cause that the evidence of that crime would be at mar-a-lago. those are the prerequisites for a search warrant. second, i think it is fair to assume that merrick garland asked people within the justice department, why do you need to do this by a search warrant? why can't we issue a subpoena? there are two different ways to get documents. one is to issue a grand jury subpoena and have the person who receives that grand jury subpoena collect the documents himself or herself and turn them over. why do you have to proceed by a search warrant which has the fbi going in and extracting the information themselves, without reliance on a person, and that means that merrick garland must have gotten a compelling answer that they could not trust that the former president would turn the documents over voluntarily. to me, that is the conversation that just had to have happened.

the third thing which i think is a little speculative on my part is that i assume there was a compelling national security case made to the attorney general as to why these documents needed to be retrieved because of the really sensitive nature of what they believed they would find at mar-a-lago. >> it's also really politically sensitive, as you've seen, it has inflamed donald trump supporters, republicans, potentially reinvigorated his 2024 prospects. if you were merrick garland, do you feel the pressure to come out and be clear about what you were looking for? as clear as you can be if it is a national security issue, so that you can justify a move like this, an unprecedented move like this, on a former president? >> that is a difficult conundrum that they're in. because the normal rules of the

justice department are that you don't seek about an ongoing investigation. not just to protect the investigation, but as a matter of civil liberties. everyone, everyone who i think was a justice department official was very upset with jim comey when he proceeded to talk about his political views of hillary clinton when they were declining to prosecute. that's something the justice department does not do. the put up or shut up rule which is you either indict or you just don't say anything. so merrick garland is, you know, compelled, i think, because of the civil liberties concerns not to give too much information about what is happening. so that's the conundrum. you saw it play out. you have one side very, very quiet and the other side that is free to pontificate and make

claims under the first amendment, they're entitled to do. it isn't equal fatting on both side. >> what can you tell us from what you're hearing inside the justice department? >> yeah. by the book, is the rule. the rule going with this. it has been very difficult to confirm basic facts about a lot of this. the fact that this sort of unprecedented raid, nothing came out about it at all ahead of time is significant. and the fact that it is so difficult to get any sort of confirmation. typically you can get law enforcement at a specific address, just to bring you behind the scenes of the reporting process. even that was a real challenge to get confirmation. what was out there. there was this law enforcement activity at mar-a-lago. it has been a by the book thing. if you just step back a little bit, the justice department is

kind of on the line here. this is going to determine the purpose of the justice department itself. i remember writing a story in 2020 right before the election about how the 2020 election was going to determine the future of the justice department. just imagine the sort of folks that they could have brought in in the second term. we didn't have to worry about re-election. who would be willing to take those positions at the justice department. it is the future of doj and the fbi is on the line here. so i think they'll be so careful about making sure they're going through the proper protocols and following everything. look what happened to folks who have kroot 90sed trump before. look what happened to folks who have come under the fire from the right who were at the fbi and doj previously. their live have been torn apart. so everyone who is part of the process is very much aware that this is going to be heavily scrutinized. especially if republicans take over congress. we saw medications of that last

night. so this is going to be looked over with, i mean, just with the magnifying glass. every single component of this. i really think that they're making sure that there is nothing that is going to be able to trip them up and not give any ammunition to critics, to come at this with every power that they have. >> that's why i said, i believe we're on the cusp of something. just not sure what that is. there are so many intended or unintended consequences of a move like this. and we just don't know what exactly they were looking for. we don't know how severe the crime is that we might think they would find. the bar is pretty high to do something like this. we don't know the details. bring us back to talk to us. the dispute with the national archives, the documents donald trump took from the white house. remind us what we know about that. >> this is something the "washington post" has been reporting on for several months.

it began the day president trump leaves former president trump, then president trump leaves office. it was as most things in his administration and his orbit, a chaotic process. right down to the packing. and he leaves for mar-a-lago and normally, you are supposed to follow these basic procedures where you turn over all sorts of things. especially, of course, classified documents to the national archives. so as the national archives in his post presidency is going through their regular process, they realize, wait a minute. we're missing certain things. we would have expected to receive this and we don't have it. so that's what promise them to reach out to the former president and ask for some of these things back. they start getting some documents, some items back. some are torn up and taped back together, as we and others have reported. trump had a penchant for ripping up everything from newspapers to sensitive documents.

it turns out that he brought with him to mar-a-lago basically, 15 boxes. this includes his letter with kim jong-un, a model replica of the revamped air force one that he wanted to do had he served a second term, and more importantly, classified documents, sensitive documents including some that were marked top secret and go were so sensitive that they could not even be described in broad terms publicly. and that sort of brings us up to here with the many, many questions. >> and what about this idea that he might have declassified things before he left office? >> as a president, he can declassify whatever he wants. he does not have that same power when he is not president. but could this have been a filing issue where he declassified it and it just got marked incorrectly?

i believe cash patel was suggesting something like that. >> when we were reporting on this sort of unfolding story at the time, that's one of the things we noted in talking to legal and other experts, which is that a president, while they're the sitting president, has tremendous ability and authority to declassify documents, and that to prosecute someone for a violation of the presidential records act is an incredibly high bar. you have to have peru prove gross negligence. so we really don't know a lot about the justice department's decision. there is an internal sense, and this is pure speculation, but in some of the democrats, and biden orbit people i talked to, that the justice department fully understands the politics of this. right? they fully understand how much that agency was politicized under former president trump and how much they are trying to show they're an independent agency

now under biden. that the justice department would not do something like this unless they had really good reason. they're not going to send fbi agents to trump's private club in florida, to, for instance, retrieve the basically model airplane of air force one. now again, we don't know why they got that warrant. what they hope to find. what they thought the crime might have been committed, and what they did actually find. and these people have no awareness because the justice department is saying very little publicly or privately, that you would not do this unless you thought there was some there, there. >> so ostensibly this is tied to the national archives. and the potentially classified materials. but rachel noted this yesterday. rachel maddow. there are so many investigations surrounding donald trump right now. can we say definitively this does not have to do with something else? that this doesn't have to do with the investigation or lack there of into january 6th?

>> we don't know. there's reporting that it is about the retaining of government documents, and they could be classified or not. a couple points. one, it could be that this is relevant to a voter probe. there is also the case while you are doing a search, if you find evidence related to other investigations, you're entitled to take that as well. it is a doctrine. i would point out even if it is classified or declassified, even if he somehow declassified documents, it is certainly possible for the current president and for merrick garland and members of the intelligence committee to reclassify. to disagree with what the former president did and to classify those documents and say we need those back. i really strongly that you can that the documents that merrick

garland agreed to proceed this way. the search of the former president's home. there has to be material that is so sensitive from a national security perspective that there is an urgency to go in and get them. whether they have been declassified by the former president or not. and by the way, it is a crime to take government property, whether it is classified or not, under 18 usc 641. and it is a claim if the former president, it is a claim if the former president and said they returned everything, when it seems clear the justice department has evidence that they didn't return everything. so he could have a very simple false statement case coming out of this. which is very similar to what happened with general petraeus. >> former officials have been prosecuted for this. they have been prosecuted for this. not former presidents but former

political officials. not to keep you waiting here but you're outside mar-a-lago, across the lagoon from mar-a-lago. talk to me about the reaction you're seeing there, but also the reaction from the republican party? >> reporter: yeah, i think this is the horse that republicans have thrown their saddle on to now for the last six years. and as ashley pointed out, the story about if this has anything to do with the potential classification of documents residing here at mar-a-lago, this story has been out for months and republicans did not criticize the former president. they did not step away from him. so what you see here yesterday from the likes of steve bannon, speaking to literally millions of americans on fox news last night. he used the words, quote, political and ideological war. weaponized justice department. quote, this is about pure power politics. they're scared of trump. just look at kevin mccarthy who could very well be the next

speaker of the house, come here this next spring. in a statement he said, when republicans take back the house, we will conduct immediate oversight of this department. follow the facts and leave no stone unturned. attorney general garland, preserve your documents and clear your calendar. you've heard for folks talking for the defunding of the department of justice. the defunding of the fbi. this is years of build-up. the idea to dismount the deep state. the so call deep state here. the trump allies, ever since leaving office in the last year and a half, have systematically worked to build up a plan for if they were to take back not only the congress but the white house in 2024. what actions would they take? so much of that comes down to what they called the administrative state. the ability for the executive branch to dismantle some of these influences that they see as being political operatives. of course, that is where if you're republicans, elected officials from the likes of ted

cruz, lindsey graham. they are leaving a little crack open. lindsey graham saying just today in the last hour, that it is imperative the department of justice come out and present what they do know. what the probable cause of a potential crime was that would validate them to go and seek a search warrant from a federal judge and ultimately, go and seize boxes of documents that we've reported leaving from mar-a-lago. that's where you see republicans almost quietly acknowledging they do not know what this investigation is looking at. at the same time, donald trump has suggested he could very well announce his 2024 presidential run in less than three months before the mid-term elections. >> well, his son eric trump said on fox news last night that he should do it soon. it was the first time that he said he said it out loud. thank you very much for starting us off. thank you for all the reporting of what we know so far and also, all that well informed insight into the process. just a reminder to all of you out there, we do not know what

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republican national committee, the rnc, called it an abuse of power that could only be stopped by elking more republicans in november. house minority leader kevin mccarthy threatened oversight hearings should republicans regain the house this fall, adding attorney general garland, preserve your documents and clear your calendar. republican senators like ted cruz, rand paul, rick scott, marshall blackburn and lindsey graham have all decide it. senator rubio even liked it to third world dictatorships. notably silent is the senate leadership including mitch mcconnell. so far none of them have said anything. joining me now, from capitol, and the senior national political reporter. what can we make of this silence from the top of the republican party? >> well, in terms mitch mcconnell, he is in a position where he doesn't want to defend donald trump but he also doesn't

want to offend donald trump. we know he had a very public break with the former president. he held him morally responsible for january 6th. but mcconnell also needs trump's voters to turn out in the mid-term elections if mcconnell is achieve his goal of becoming the majority leader and capturing enough seats in the senate to regain that top position. now, we are seeing anything but silence. the opposite of silence from house republican leadership, as you noted. kevin mccarthy came out strongly in defense of donald trump without saying the former president's name, promising investigations into the justice department over this, and we also know that donald trump is expected to meat tonight with a group of about a dozen house republicans led by jim banks, the chair of the republican study committee. a group of about 150 house republicans who identify with the conservative wing west don't have a lead on who will be there but broadly we're seeing a major coalescing within the republican party around donald trump. that includes some more on the

outs of trump world like vice president mike pence who was pushed out after he refused to go along with the plot on january 6th. that includes governor ron desantis who is being encouraged to challenge trump, going along with the narrative that this is a politically motivated move by the justice department, which is not something that we have evidence for. to be very, very clear about that. that is emerging narrative on the right as we speak. >> let's talk about what this mean for 2024. here's lindsey graham talking about a conversation he had with the president, the former president, donald trump today. >> i talked to the president about an hour ago with henry. the one thing i can tell you is that i believe he was going to run before. i'm stronger in my belief now. >> so henry is the guy standing next to him. they talked to donald trump. what do you think this minds for 2024? >> i would say, believe lindsey graham in this case. there were some people with whom

i've spoken who have spoken to president trump. they want him to fly down to mar-a-lago today and make an announcement to announce the investigation, the search warrant, and then saying he was running for president. there was more of a division in trump world about the president, former president trump making the announcement before this mid-term election. some of that opposition has just dematerialized. it has disappeared. those who do want him to wait until after the mid-term. perhaps after the calendar year, realized it might be futile. that not only is the president infuriated by this, but he's encouraged, perhaps paradoxically so, a lot of people wouldn't expect this, by the fact that the entire republican establishment has rallied behind him. rallying to the chief that you see in times when leaders are in battle. running to the chief in their own party. and that's certainly happening here in spades. so it wouldn't shock me if we saw an announcement imminently. it wouldn't surprise me if we

waited a little longer. right now, former president trump is really itching to run. a lot of people around him are scratching that itch. >> from what looks like, used to look like, the future. otherwise known as the telemundo room with all the monitors. that was the governor of south carolina. thank you very much. and the january 6th committee sat down with two more witnesses today. what happened when one of them walked out after just 15 minutes? and how ugly could it get? trump supporters are talking about civil war on social media.

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there is one specific person who is posting about the civil war last night on the donald, which the big extremist forum. it's called the donald. it was the biggest forum for january 6th. it turns out he is a capitol rioter awaiting sentencing. his name is tyler laker, he's from washington state. so if you guys were wondering if these people online are really committed to doing this in the real world. they absolutely are. they've already done it. he will probably blow up his own plea deal by talking going the civil war under the guy that said lock and load shortly after the search last night. >> so that was my question. when you're talking about chatter online, the tendency before january 6th would be like, people are online. maybe we should be worried but how worried should we be? january 6th proved that online chatter does mean something. are we hearing anything about reaction to it from authorities? >> maybe he's heard something. i haven't yet.

it's totally possible. what we do know is that for a lot of these people, the internet is their real life. right? a lot of these militias organize on the internet exclusively. they don't meet up in real life. the first time they meet up in real life is at the rally that they're at or the protest that they're at. that is certainly true of the proud boys and oath keep here's never met each other until january 6th. they used to go to the same rallies. they never really organized until january 5th of 2021. so yeah. i wish i was in some sort of, if i were a mystic that could stop it from happening. >> this is why i keep saying over and over again, it feels like we're on the cusp of something because who knows what happens after this? and we have in the past seen people take those reactions online and take them into real life as we saw on january 6th. we've seen smaller instances around the country. what are you concerned about right now? can you tell us that the authorities can take any action

beyond this one guy that ben collins is reporting on, who is already in the middle of a probably blown up now plea deal for his role in the insurrection. >> that's right. this is where the initial january 6th hearings, you might remember, director wray, director of national intelligence, a lot of them going up to the hill asking, why didn't you warn everybody? well, what are we allowed to look at on social media? and there was a lot of stern yelling and warnings from congressmen and they passed zero laws. and they solved no problems. they never did anything about it. so to this day, if you're looking on social media and you're the fbi, you've got to have some sort of a predicate to be doing that. there is this idea that the fbi is all seeing and all knowing. there aren't that many fbi agents. it is just impossible. then there is the issue of severity. the one thing i would note is, from the days to the present,

whenner it is international terrorists or domestic terrorists, the larger the audience, the larger the grievance, the more likely it is that you'll have some statistical portion of that audience that will mobilize to violence. that's what we saw on january 6th. i think the key sign to look for is when someone starts pointing them at a target. that's what was consistent about president trump when he used social media. he would say, philadelphia, voting. what would we see? a couple people showing one guns under a qanon flag. what did we see? we see a domestic militia group focused on gretchen whitmer. where does it point to? i would suspect at any moment and particularly right now, there is a small percentage, 1% or less, that are willing to mobilize or willing to undertake violence, an even smaller portion, willing to undertake

violence. what they see is a perceived injustice, usually an artificial reality. >> does the prosecutions of the january 6th investigations leading to the doj investigations, are they not at all a deterrence hear? >> for the most part, no. i think that's because the way it is reported out, collectively, it is two aspects. one, a lot in congress that we've seen called in political prisoners. if you go to far right media, they're seeing this trapped unjustly. that they were the next wave of 1776 and they were going to free all of americans. in their media bubble, that's what they believe. separately, when you look at it, they don't actually hear about the convictions, about the trial. most that audience doesn't hear anything about it. you would not pick up on it on fox news and you will definitely not pick up on it on far right social media 9/11 of the consequences of january 6th. >> thank you very much. the january 6th committee has two witnesses on the schedule

today, at least they did. former secretary of state mike pompeo, the second witness today, and the first one, doug mastriano. while he did show up, his lawyer said he did not answer any questions and stopped the interview after just 15 minutes. joining me now, "new york times" congressional reporter. what happened? >> yeah. this really blew up. doug masteriano, the republican nominee for pennsylvania appeared very briefly today before the january 6th committee in a private interview. there was some wrangling in the beginning about whether he could videotape the interview. the committee has told him he cannot do that. they have not allowed other witnesses to do that in the past. he then proceeded to say he wouldn't answer any questions. the lawyer for the january 6th

committee, dan george, began to ask the beginning deposition questions. he was told the interview was ending and they turned off the camera. this was a virtual interview. and doug mastriano refused to answer any more questions. the committee wants to hear from him. he was the point person in pennsylvania when donald trump's false elector, he was at the capitol on january 6th. he bused people to washington that day for the rally. they have a lot of questions for him. so i'm very interested to see what the next step is here now that mr. mastriano has pulled out of this interview process. >> luke, thank you very much. coming up, inside, a disturbing new study that shows how more than half of all infectious diseases have been made worse by climate change. first up though, the

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the president signed the bipartisan chips is signs act into law and he is calling it a major win. the $280 billion package will boost domestic high-tech manufacturing in an effort to lessen america's tech dependence on china surrounded by lawmaker, officials and business leaders, president biden framed this core part of his economic agenda as a historic moment. >> 50, 75, 100 years from now, people who will look back on this week. they'll know that we met this moment. today i'm signing into law the chips and science act. once in a generation investment in america itself.

a law that the american people can be proud of. >> joining me now, senior adviser to the president and white house infrastructure coordinator, mitch landrieu. thank you for being here. first off, in layman's terms, can you explain the chips act and what it means? what it does? >> yeah. it is about making important thing in america, creating national security for ourselves by making things at home. opening up supply chains so we can have access to more goods and lower costs, and to creating great paying jobs. that's what it is. in a little more detail, everybody knows, they should know, almost everything we use from cars to appliances to our smartphones have these little chips called semiconductor chips. they are almost all made overseas. now the president is making sure that america can guide its own future and that's on top of the manufacturing surge we're having in the country already. this will turbo charge this. lower prices make us more secure and create more jobs. >> part of the issue we saw

during the pandemic and the supply chain issues was that people couldn't buy new cars because there weren't enough of these semiconductor chip that's you're talking about to manufacture these cars. so the used market was insane for used cars. what is the time line on getting manufacturing up and running here in the united states? >> well, first of all, the president has already created 650,000 or so manufacturing jobs since he's been in office, the largest number which has been created in a long time. we're off to the races. people did experience this in a real way during covid, and understood in real terms what it meant not to get the things that they wanted to buy. they may not have known why but a lot of it was they couldn't get enough chips made overseas. now we'll fix this. as soon as the president signs this bill, we'll start working really hard. there are a number of companies that have already laid dirt in the ground. intel has opened a plant in ohio. today qualcomm has announced another $40 billion.

this is about seizing the future. it is about our energy security. our national security. it is about lowering costs because we're going to increase supply and it is about making things in america with jobs that are really well paid. so this is a win, win, win. it is in fact a big win for the united states. as the president said for history. >> it has been a big summer for democrats, for the president. you got the chips plus act which you signed today. the pact act. sweden and finland accession into nato. the president was just speaking about that. gun control legislation. the inflation reduction act which will probably get voted on and passed by the house today and then go to the presses's desk. how do you feel about the mid-terms? tell me why past is not precedent and why democrats won't get shellacked in november as we normally see in these mid-term elections? or maybe you don't feel that way. >> in my past life i was a politician. right now i'm not. i won't prognosticate about the mid-terms.

i will talk about how incredibly active this president has been in the first two years of his office. you haven't seen a run like this by a president in the past 50 years. when you take the american rescue plan, the funding we did for all the workers in manager, the bipartisan infrastructure bill that will help with roads and bridges and airports and high speed internet and clean energy, you lay on top of that, becoming a manufacturing powerhouse, and the burn pit bill which the president will sign tomorrow. the inflation pact will secure our energy future and lower costs. seriously, can anybody look at that and say that is not a home run? at the time when you need at this time most? we feel really good about it. we have a lot of work to do. this president never says never. he never gives up. he is the guy who will persevere under the most difficult circumstances. and he proved once again you can't ever underestimate the president of the united states, and especially this one. >> you're not a politician but i'll ask you one more political question. does it make you nervous, the politics surrounding the search mar-a-lago? what republicans are saying

right now, that this is going to reinvigorate donald trump's 2024 prospects and potentially reinvigorate the republican party by their ability to call this a witch hunt. and to fundraise off this idea that the the biden administration, they say, is out to get president trump? >> i can't comment on that. you'll have to direct that question to the department of justice. i have no knowledge that. >> thank you so much. i tried. i tried, sir. appreciate your time. >> all right. >> coming up next, the more extreme our weather gets, the deadlier our diseases get. a new study that ties your health to the planet's. o the pls and for us at booking.com this means - free cancellation on most bookings. it's a bit functional. but we'll gladly be functional. so you can be free. booking.com booking.yeah

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climate change isn't just bad for the environment, it's also bad for our health. a new scientific study found half of known infectious diseases have been worsened by climate change. by climate hazards like flooding, heat waves and droughts. and it also found that noninfectious diseases like asthma and allergies can be aggravated by extreme weather, proving that sick people may be symptoms of a sick planet. i'm joined by an author of the study, jonathan patz, the

professor at the university of wisconsin madison. thanks so much for being here. this is certainly really scary. just walk us through what you found. >> yeah. well, thank you for covering the story. it's a really important study that was performed. it was a systematic review where more than 3,000 scientific studies were looked at. and of those, there were 800, more than 800 that had data-driven linkages to 277 human pathogens. that's a majority, 58% of human diseases that were linked to at least 1 of 10 climate hazards. an these are hazards consist tent with climate change. heating, flooding, storms and drought and fires, things like that. the unique thing about the study was that while we've known for a long time there are so many

climate-sensitive diseases, be it from infectious diseases carried by mosquitos or waterborne diseases. and of course, direct impact from heat, heat, flood and storms, we really haven't examined the literature this extensively. and this systematic review found over 1,000 pathways whereby climate hazards affect human diseases. so that was quite striking. >> it certainly makes me, a person who gets bitten by mosquitos a lot, they seem to like my blood, the idea that mosquitos can be more of a problem by carrying more diseases around the world. a large focus of the study is about covid and how it intersects with climate change. can you explain that? >> well, with covid, it's too early to really say there's a direct link between climate change and covid. there are a couple of factors to

consider. during the heat waves last year, people were forced, especially poor people, were coming into cooler centers. and when you have a raging pandemic and you're forced to congregate into a cooling center, that presents a problem. as far as the origins of covid which people are still trying to figure out, you know, coronaviruses are carried by bats. and if you disrupt the habitat of bats and force them to migrate or to become in higher density and more transmission from bat to bat, if you disrupt the ecosystem, you can -- that could lead to an increased risk of transmission. and passage of these viruses from bats to humans. so, there are some questions about the influence of climate on land cover and habitat, as potentially contributing factor, but it's too early to say.

>> what's your reaction to this new legislation that is about to be passed bit house, the inflation reduction act, with all of the climate provision and that will probably get signed by the president pretty soon? >> well, you know, i've been working on this issue for more than 25 years. and it really is extremely important, especially when you think about the climate crisis is a health crisis. because there are so many diseases that are affected by climate. so this new bill if it passed, i hope it will pass, gets to the root problem. and the key message of our own study is that with 1,000 pathways to which climate affects our health, you know, we need to do more than focusing on preventing individual diseases. we need to go to the source.

to go upstream to the source to the climate crisis and reduce emissions from fossil fuels that are heating the planet. so, therefore, this new bill gets to the root of the problem. it reduces greenhouse gas emissions. it's a huge win for preventing not only climate disasters that affect our health, but also immediately will improve our health by leading to clean energy, better air quality, there was an assessment already that talked about saving 4,000 lives per year from that bill. so it's a great -- it's an energy policy, but it's hub health policy. >> listen, i know a lot of people out there believe in climate change, believe we should do something about it. the economic message certainly helps pass this bill. but i think now that all of us have been through a pandemic

that changed our lives, i think increased pandemics another way to get climate change over the hill in congress. i appreciate it, jonathan patz. coming up next hour, it is primary day in a key battleground state update on the proxy war between donald trump and mike pence playing out right now in wisconsin. plus, the latest out of ukraine as the u.s. commits another billion dollars in aid for the fight against russia. ♪i like to vöost it, vöost it♪ ♪we like to vöost it♪ ♪♪ ♪vöost it♪

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