good to be with you, i'm katy tur in for hallie jackson. and we're on the cusp of something, but what that something is still unclear. the fbi search of former president trump's mar-a-lago home has stood up a lot. republicans slammed the move as politically motivated with many of his allies claiming witch hunt and basically blaming president biden for the search. the white house said it was not given a heads-up for the events and found out with the rest of the country when the news broke. at this hour, we have more questions than answers. here's what we know so far. a source familiar with the matter tells nbc news that the search was tied to alleged removal of the classified documents from his home in 2021. according to donald trump the estate was searched by agents. the way this happened might be shocking but it didn't come out of nowhere.

we know that the national archives asked mr. trump to return 15 boxes of documents they say were improperly taken from the white house. those were retrieved in january. and the justice department to look at whether the handling of those records violated federal law. that's what we know. the search does not mean that prosecutors have determined that the former president has committed a crime. but it is significant nonetheless. and we're getting into why. joining me from west palm beach, across the lagoon from mar-a-lago is vaughn hillyard. and kendall laney and ali vitali and phil rucker at the "washington post," an msnbc analyst. and chuck rosenberg, also an msnbc contributor and he is the person we go to when we want answers on topics like this. so, chuck, i do want to begin with you, because i want you to set the expectations for us.

because this is so sensitive, this is so politically sensitive. what can we expect? what should we be looking out for? >> first, katy, i don't see a political prism. i was a prosecutor, so let me explain the law here. in order to get a search warrant, you have to convince a federal judge that you have probable cause for two things. first that a federal crime was committed. and second that you have evidence of that federal crime for the place you want to search. i think the important thing for your viewers, the fbi obviously can't get a search warrant on its own. it takes two branches or three branches of the system to issue a warrant. the fbi to apply. and the judge to approve. once she approves and the fbi has a warrant, then they're lawfully allowed into the home and collects stuff pursuant to the warrant. it's really that simple. so if people want to make this into a political issue, i think

that's highly disingenuous. i understand it. but i think it's highly disingenuous, and completely disregards the law surrounding how search warrants are obtained and the standard required which comes right from the fourth amendment to obtain it. >> yes. taking that, this is still the search of a former president's home so the bar has to be very high. what we're already seeing is republicans coming out and saying, merrick garland, you need to explain yourself. show us what was so egregious that you would do this to a former president. what do you think that merrick garland, the position he's in now. and i know there are rules and regulations in place at doj, same as fbi, about investigations. but is this a different matter, chuck? do you think they need to come out and explain to the american public to explain what they're doing to blow back on of the allegations by the republicans? >> it's a good question, katy,

to your point, look, the bar is higher. in some way exactly the same as it would be for anyone else. the standard is probable cause. and that's the standard. but i take your point. and i do think that the department of justice has to explain itself at some point and reveal what's in the affidavit. now, affidavits attached to search warrants are typically sealed for some period of time. if there's a legitimate law enforcement purpose to keep it sealed, then it remains sealed but all that is vacated and at some point it's going to be unsealed and we're all going to see it. and we can all read it and make a judgment for ourselves, important -- i should say two incorporate this is, first, whether or not the facts alleged in the affidavit constituted probable cause. the judge has already found they did. but we can read that for ourselves. and second, whether it was worth it, which i think is your question. >> uh-huh. >> when you are examining the

conduct of a former president, it's unlike anything else we do in the criminal justice system. that's what makes this unprecedented. but we're going to have the opportunity to make that assessment. it may not be today, it may be next week. but we're going to have that opportunity to make that assessment. the other thing i urge people to do is be patient. i know that's hard but has value here. >> it doesn't mean that the president is going to get indicted. it doesn't mean that they're going to charge him with a crime. again, sets the expectation, looking for evidence of the crime and having justifiable cause to make that search? >> yeah, such a good point, katy. so search warrants are predicated on probable cause. we discussed that. that's what you do at the beginning of the investigation. right, it makes sense to have a lower burden of proof at the beginning of an investigation, because how el would you begin an investigation. so in toward to charge somebody and convict them you'd have to meet the highest standard in criminal law, proof beyond

reasonable doubt. so there's a delta, a difference, between proof and a reasonable doubt. the highest standard and probable cause to get a search warrant, the highest standard. and it's in that delta, that difference, further investigation will let you know whether you get there or not. to your point, do you know he's going to be charged? no, we absolutely do not. is everybody the subject of a court-authorized search warrant charged? no. many are, some are not. again, we have to wait to see the case and be patient. >> a note of caution, ken dilanian, you're trying to get information from people who don't want to give it. tell me what you're hearing and your reporting has shown so far from the doj and fbi? >> yeah, as you can imagine, katy, they're being extraordinarily tight-lipped at the justice department and fbi. but we have every reason to believe the discussion to execute this search went to the highest level. likely merrick garland signed

off on it, and likely christopher wray signed off on it. before they made the decision to get to the judge, the probable cause warrant, the prosecutors and the judge had to decide this is the best way and only way to get the information. that a subpoena was not going to work. a demand, asking the former president to give the documents. if that's what this is about, we have reason to believe at least in part it's about documents that donald trump took from the white house to mar-a-lago. it's just an extraordinary situation where the justice department decided they couldn't get it back any other way. they couldn't get the documents without sending a team of fbi agents who had court authorization to break down the door. they didn't have to break down the door because they contacted the secret service in advance. they facilitated it. they were careful and professional. they didn't wear their fbi windbreakers. donald trump wasn't there. nonetheless, it's an extraordinary step. i've been saying all day it that

it comes in the context that the fbi took it on the chin with the inspector general investigation when they found there were multiple layers of misconduct pursuing fisa warrant. and one lost their job over it. and for that reason, they're super careful going through the process but we have to wait and see. it's 2ru69 and verify. >> phil, just to be clear, this is not a subpoena, this is not the justice department and fbi asking former president trump for these materials, or demanding it through subpoena? this was a search warrant, there's a real difference there. and it implies that they maybe thought that they couldn't get it unless they showed up to get it themselves. and in your coverage of donald trump, only so many years and from your reports, you know, why

might they believe that donald trump would not just hand it over? >> well, katy in the many years of covering donald trump i don't think we've ever seen him cooperate in an investigation of this nature. he's not cooperated with any of the congressional investigations and he's not really cooperated with any of the federal justice department investigations. in fact, he's been quite hofl tile to them. and he's rallied his supporters against them to hate the justice department and the fbi and call on all action. so it's only a rational conclusion to make that he would not voluntarily cooperate with the investigation. and as you know, this was a search warrant, and it was authorized by a court. and by all accounts it went according to the letter of the law. >> and this, again, we believe, is tied to the national archives. we believe it's tied to the documents taken from the white house. >> yes.

>> remind us what we know be the documents right now, phil. >> well, there were a number of documents allegedly taken from the white house to mar-a-lago at the end of the trump presidency. some of them were classified which means they're top secret government documents and others were not clfd but nonetheless were government records. there's a presidential records act which is a federal law that requires that these documents be preserved for the benefit of history and the public trust. that obviously would not have happened if these documents were taken to mar-a-lago. the national archives earlier this year, retrieved a number of boxes, i believe 15 boxes of documents from mar-a-lago. and it appears that the investigation has continued into those documents sand whether there might be additional documents that were not handed that may have been what they were looking for at mar-a-lago. we don't have a great deal of clarity about what they were trying to get out of the former president's space yesterday during the search. but it is according to our and many other news outlets reporting, connected to this

problem that is trump's handling of classified documents. >> vaughn, you're outside of mar-a-lago. you're across the lagoon from mar-a-lago. i know you've been in touch with donald trump's team. vaughn, you can hear me? i think we might have lost vaughn's audio. >> we're going to work on vaughn's audio. and go back to that. ali vitali, there's a lot among republicans talking a lot on twitter, giving interviews about it. what might this mean for the midterms? what might it mean for the prospect if republicans are able to regain the house? >> there's big ramifications here because as much as this is a legal matter the law and politics are not divorced from each other at this moment. they never are when it comes to donald trump.

you had republicans going on twitter, reacting in realtime last night, many of them defending him and immediately politicizing this information asking for a clarification from the department of justice, a military general, at that unprecedented moment. we throw that term around especially over the last years. as congresswoman elaine luria explains it watching with great extension, they used that word and explained why this moment actually applies there. listen. >> it truly is unprecedented. but it's unprecedented because this is in reaction to an unprecedented presidency. we've never seen a president seek to overturn elections. send a mob to d.c. and unprecedented responses are required for unprecedented reactions. >> and look, katy, there's two things here. in this moment, we learned what

the republican majority might look like if they retake the house in november. house leader kevin mccarthy saying that the doj should preserve their records because if republicans take control of that body, they will be doing their own investigation. and, then, of course, on the other side of this, you'll have what republicans are doing as they look forward to the midterms. this is not necessarily what they want to complain on. this is not necessarily the referendum that democrats want to campaign on. as you look over the last five or six years, this is, frankly, what you get, these moments that are have been significant. >> there's been a lot of unprecedented. and they're holding a press briefing, they've asked a number of questions. so far she has said that the white house was not given a heads-up whatsoever on the search of mar-a-lago. and it would not be

appropriate -- freshness, if you will, the freshness of what they might have found. talk to me about -- what does that mean? when they're getting a search warrant, do they have to believe that what they're finding is something that is new? >> yeah. it's a good question, katy. so, let me explain it this way. imagine you're a dea agent and informant tells you that they saw meth on my kitchen table 18 months ago. you could not get a search warrant for my house for that meth based on what an agent told you he saw months ago. that's not fresh. in fact, we call it stale. so, in order for you to get a search warrant, you have to have current information, how current is current, and how fresh is fresh, it depends on the facts

and circumstances of each case. in a document case, because documents can be stored for a very long time, it may be a slightly longer period. but your questions are really good. and the probable cause has to be fresh enough to convince the federal judge that the stuff you want to find is probably going to be there. >> interesting. i asked the question poorly, but thank you for giving a much more coherent answer. chuck rosenberg and phil rucker. our apologies to vaughn hillyard, we couldn't work out his audio issues. coming up breaking news out of new mexico, police have detained the primary suspect, that's what they're saying, in the killing of four muslim men. plus, the investigation of the january 6 committee was cut off soon after it was began. and it's primary day in four

states while trump is not on the ballot, this election allies are in cases that could ultimately decide who controls congress.

♪♪ breaking news out of new mexico, albuquerque police say they have detained a, quote, primary suspect, that's what they're calling this person in the recent killings of four muslim men. joining me now from albuquerque is nbc's guad venegas, what do we know? >> reporter: katy, the police chief here in albuquerque tweeted a message saying they have found a vehicle believed to be linked to the killings and also calling the man detail stained with that vehicle a primary suspect. we are expecting a presser for the media later this afternoon, according to the information that was shared on social media. now, just yesterday morning, we spoke to the head of the islamic center near albuquerque who told us he had spoken to authorities,

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vehicle found. >> understandably, thank you very much. right now, voters are casting ballots in primary elections in wisconsin, minnesota and connecticut and vermont. donald trump is once again front and center, more so than ever after that search at mar-a-lago. but is that a good thing? the atlantic's david fromm says trump is caution an issue for the gop, writing, quote, fbi warns aside, primary contests in battleground states such as arizona and pennsylvania false accusations against the 2020 election. the democratic message, $35 insulin. ask not what your member of congress can do for you ask what your member of congress can do for you to solve donald trump's hurt feelings, joining me now, senior author of the politico report. so all of this precedent here, about what's going to happen in

the midterms. the party until power always loses seat in midterms. do you think that reality holds, given these weird times we're living in with weird variables? >> well, katy, we're at an inflexion point. i believe democrats have gotten a triple boost from falling gas prices eating into biden's messaging about inflation. and from the referendum in kansas, democrats turned out extraordinarily high. and in addition, we've got donald trump becoming front and center in this campaign. and republican primaries focusing so much on trump that the whole republican field very far to the right and in his direction. now, we'll see how durable this is. and i think a good sign, some good clues are going to be the upcoming house special election in minnesota tonight, alaska next week. and the week following in new york's 19th district.

do democrats come close to biden's number in those seats in 2020? if so, that would be a good time for them. >> what they're doing, the 2020, it's all backwards looking and doesn't stand up to the messaging of $35 insulin. but there's also this idea of donald trump saying witch hunt and the republican party saying they're a key state. and it doesn't work but seems like that's going to turn out republicans more in these elections. as somebody in your position, how do you make sense of those two things? >> look, voters' top concerns is still the economy and high prices. and democrats have finally, i think, gained something to sell their base via this build back better package. part of the reason why joe biden's rating has been at 38%, 39%, democrats are with the slow

pace. and the fact that midterms make a choice between trump and democrats and a referendum on biden. and that would be helpful for democrats mitigating republican gains that historically should be high. >> we live in weird times, david wasserman, thank you. a revolving door for the january 6th committee. what we know about the two men talking to investigators today. one of them was -- and also the search at mar-a-lago. scary stuff, folks. new astepro allergy. no allergy spray is faster. with the speed of astepro, almost nothing can slow you down. because astepro starts working in 30 minutes, while other allergy sprays take hours. and astepro is the first

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mastriano did not answer any questions. the meeting only lasted about 15 minutes. joining me msnbc national reporter sahor kapur. >> reporter: he left less than 15 minutes after the dispute of the terms of the arrangement, the committee, mastriano and the attorney did not agree on it. notably, one thing that mastriano seems to have learned you don't blow the committee off. that's how you get a contempt charge, and bannon did that. on pompeo, he's expected to appear virtually before the committee. and details are shrouded in mystery, unlike mastriano, pompeo was not subpoenaed. it's come by that the cabinet

secretary were discussing the possibility of invoking the 25th amendment after january 6th to remove then president trump from power. former white house aide cassidy hutchinson said she had heard there was such chatter who then got in contact with mark meadows saying this is what i'm hearing, i want you to be aware of it. not that pompeo was in favor of it, but knew it was happening. the committee wants to know and in part because of historical record. they've spoken to other cabinet secretaries. and i think it's important to tell the story of how the highest levels of the federal government and the president reacted. and learning the recommendations that the committee is expected to put out. thank you very much. and turning back to the search at mar-a-lago, mr. trump far from the scene of the search. he's currently staying at his golf club at bedminster, new

jersey, some reporters only with messages with comments lock and load and reference to a civil war. joining me nbc news correspondent gabe gutierrez outside of trump tower. and ben collins. gabe, at trump tower yesterday, i know we tried to toss a question off to him but didn't get any response. what's going on today? >> reporter: hey there katy, yes, as you mentioned former president trump ignoring shouted questions from reporters yesterday as he left trump power behind me. he spent the night, we understand, at his golf club add bedminster, and has not commented so far today. but he did post, or someone posted on his true social media app endorsement for several congressional races for wisconsin and minnesota. and yesterday, after the news broke, katy, and after they had gotten written statements he did make brief comments at a telerally, for former alaska governor sarah palin who, of

course, is running for congress. take a listen to some of what he said calling in. >> another day in paradise. this was a strange day. you probably all read about it. you know what, keep your eyes open, because we'll have to do it again. you know sarah's going to be helping us. >> reporter: so, calling it a strange day. and certainly teasing his supporters, katy. perhaps he thinks that a possible announcement for a presidential run sometime in the near future. as for tonight, he is scheduled to host a group of gop lawmakers from the republican study committee at his golf club tonight in new jersey, katy. >> ben, let's talk about what we're seeing online. and you have some news about somebody who posted right under that lock and load comment. >> yeah that person is named tyler wilks slaker, he's a 48-year-old man from washington state and currently awaiting his sentencing for a trespassing on

january 6th. but he has been posting for the last year and a half quiet on this stream where he posted even before january 6th, last night he was posting about the civil war. and daniel j. jones who runs a nonprofit democracy. and it does show you that some of these people making threats online do actually go through with it. and they did, you know, 17 months ago or something like that. >> what exactly are they threatening if there's any more investigations of donald trump found guilty or indicted, or if he is potentially found guilty or indicted for something, again, excuse me, i'm not saying that's going to happen, no one knows, are they saying that there will be physical retributions to that? >> yes, they are saying that they will take out some

retribution, probably on the fbi, the most recent target. at the end of the day, they're talking about assassinating all the time. and then there is this day of the woke where they start one by one taking down all of their enemies, including journalists. so, they represent all of the time and the spaces when they get riled up. they say it's a day that is coming. the only good news is the organization of these people without the guy at the top, donald trump directing them all the time, it's pretty poor. so, we just have to hope it remains that way. >> so part of the knock on law enforcement and the intelligence community in the leadup to january 6 was they didn't see it coming? or if they did see it coming, they didn't warn people strongly enough. they didn't prepare for it. is it your sense of things that they're taking this stuff that they're seeing now more seriously because of what will they missed on january 6th?

>> i would hope so, i think with the larger militia movements, like the proud boys or pariot front, there's some way to get in bed with those people, stay in their tracks. the real worry is, in 2018, there was a guy so worried about the caravan, so upset that the jews were doing something with the caravan, that they went and shot people at a synagogue in pittsburgh. you can't track every single individual people who makes a threat on the internet. you can do a good job of tracking those big groups, coordinating something big, but those individual, you don't want to call them lone wolves because they all believe the same thing. >> would it help if somebody like donald trump came out and said, hey, listen, violence is not the answer? >> of course it would.

he is never going to do that. i think we all realize that this man is totally capable of doing it. because it doesn't help him politically. cpac was based on the fact that there were january 6th prisoners held against their will. the martyrdom and taking this all personally, they are now saying we are all domestic terrorists in these spaces, as a joke. they believe that they are being persecuted by the government one by one. >> scary times. ben collins. ben, thank you very much. and coming up next, details on an explosion that rocked a russian air base in crimea. ♪ got my hair got my head ♪ introducing new one a day multi+. a complete multivitamin plus an extra boost of support for your immunity, brain, and hair, skin & nails. new one a day multi+. i typed in my dad's name... and i found his childhood home. he's been wondering about the address for seventy years...

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help clear those mines? >> reporter: yeah, that's right, the u.s. plans to spend about $80 million this year to fund 100 teams to clear out land mines, improvised explosive devices as well as booby traps and other types of risks created by both russia and frankly ukrainian forces that have planted explosives as they are trying to fight each other. a state department official tellings that the area of ukraine that is now potentially contaminated with explosive devices is the area the size of maryland, connecticut, virginia combined. and they say russian troops have placed booby traps in things like kids toys, the back seats of cars. food containers and even a child's piano, katy. >> why in the world would you do that? kids toys, that's horrible. josh, thank you so much. and fueled in part by the war in ukraine, here in the united states you'll pay more from everything from groceries to gas, as you know. and those rising costs are

impacting household budgets and small business as like. joining me now to discuss this is nbc news correspondent jacob board at a bakery in the bay area. oh, gosh, i'm getting hungry looking at those baked goods behind you. but, jake, tell me about what this means for small businesses and how they're coping. >> reporter: well, right now, katy, it's an incredibly difficult time to run a business in america. according to the owner of this, a local legend bakery, this is the hardest time in the history of the united states, and that includeded depression, because back then, wages were low. right now, they're as high as they've ever been. and the cost of all of this is more expensive than it's ever been. when you look at the price of flour up 52%, the price of eggs, up 45%. the price of butter up over 100. it's just unbelievable how the costs of everything have gone

up. plus, think about it this way, even though you and i are paying less and less for gasoline in our cars, diesel fuel, that price is not going anywhere. at this time, the worker costs are incredible. they're outrageous. it's not to say that this place is trying to take advantage of anybody. i don't know if you can see above me, but the flags represent the home countries of this workforce. 22 nations are represented here. the majority of applicants are female. this is a place that prides itself on workers. but they cannot afford to keep up with inflation. all of these things coming together. the cost of making goods, the cost of moving it around, the cost of people, people needed to make this happen. all of that has made it the owners here say, all but impossible to not raise prices. so even though it feels as if inflation may be getting better and better, the owners say it is not behind us in any sense, katy. >> and i believe, you have some

sound from the ceo. i'm sorry, i thought you were talking to that. but let's play that. >> the prices have gone up tremendously. in everything we do. and it's not single digits, it's double digits. sometimes, triple digits, flour just from eight months ago is up 52%. and that will add hundreds of thousands of dollars to our costs. butter is up 45%. eggs are up 125%. packaging is up about 20%. health insurance is up 10%. regular insurance is up 16%. >> reporter: so, not only are all of those concepts -- katy, that's right. let me just tell you one amazing fact that was a mind blower, right now, if you work here, they'll pay you $5,000 cash if you can find a delivery driver willing to come work here. and if that person stays for three months, you get another

$5,000. >> wow. >> reporter: thought is now unprecedented the pressures are on businesses like this. >> i will tell you i'm very happy to send you the money i'm saving in cash to give me one of those san francisco sourdoughs and put it in the mail. i feel like i can smell it from here. that is the biggest thing i miss about living in california. jake ward, thanks so much. it's incredible what's happening to small businesses, trying to hang on. jake, thank you very much. coming up next, the doctor will be right with you -- after they talk to their lawyer.

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see her take her first steps or send her off to school for the first time. >> reporter: while elizabeth was at a high risk of infection, she was told she was not sick enough to immediately end the pregnancy. >> so you're basically sent home to get sicker? >> yes. the nurses essentially told me you're being sent home to develop the signs of an infection. >> reporter: days later when she was infected, doctors finally induced later, and while she and her husband are still mourning the daughter they named theodora, a new study shows their experience is not unique. researchers looked at 28 recent cases in dallas where doctors had to delay care until there was a immediate threat to patients' lives. nearly 60% developed severe complications. one was in intensive care. others given blood transfusions. only one baby survived, so under developed it needed life support. >> this is what happens when we

cannot provide the standard of care right upfront. >> a houston doctor recently published similar findings on the texas heartbeat bill called sb 8. >> what we found was that sb 8 really created a chilling effect on reproductive health care. physicians were unclear if they could counsel patients, refer patients. having to really wait until something became life-threatening before they could intervene. >> reporter: state senator brian hughes wrote sb 8 and admits he's troubled by the recent study. >> maybe they're confused by the law in other states or misled by other stories, but for those medical emergencies the law hasn't changed. >> how close to death does a patient need to be before sb-8 would allow termination? >> under texas law, a doctor sees that condition and based on a reasonable medical probability knows this is going to happen,

they can act. they do not have to wait for a condition to be aggravated. >> reporter: he says there has been outreach to doctors and hospitals to clarify, but for dr. beasley, there is nothing clearer than the studies. >> is the data that you're seeing a warning to other places considering balance? -- bans? >> if it's not, it should be. >> reporter: the wellers also worry about the future. >> it makes me not want to start a family here. it's not safe. >> reporter: they say they've seen that firsthand. kristen dahlgren, nbc news, houston. >> that's kristen dahlgren reporting. that's go ahead to do it for me today. "deadline white house" is next after a quick break. break. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ finding the perfect designer isn't easy. but, at upwork, we found her. she's in austin between a fresh bowl of matcha

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aloha and namaste, everyone, it is 4:00 p.m. here in new york city, i'm john heilemann in for nicolle wallace. that's the bad news. the good news she'll be joining us in the next hour as we assess and analyze the monster news from last night, that the fbi yesterday searched mar-a-lago, the private club and palm beach residence of the disgraced, twice impeached, coup attempting former president of the united states, donald j. trump. it is no exaggeration to say three things about this move by the justice department. one, it's wholly without precedent in american history, two, that it's ignited a political firestorm, and three, it has sent the country hurdling into uncharted territory. e