global festival, you don't pay for your tickets, you earn them by taking action. so i want to encourage everyone to download the global citizen app and start taking action today as part of the movement. you don't need -- we don't need your money, we want your voice. >> a love the way global citizen operates. it really changes the game and draws especially young people in. mike barnicle, as i toss to you, i know you have a question for hugh. i love the focus on empowering young girls becauseoch that solves the other problems that is on global citizen's agenda. >> it is a huge issue, mika. huge issue, especially in areas where hugh is and where they're going to operate in ghana on global citizen day. i would like to know from you the impact that the war in ukraine has had on global citizens on the impact of the

shut down or shrinkage of grain exports from the war. what kind of impact has it had on your organization? >> it is a great question, mike. well, we know a couple of things are true. first it is a huge impact on the global refugee crisis and we launched a campaign in combination of the refugee crisis and it is effected the issue of global food security. that is why as part of the this campaign, we're seeking to tackle the issue of global food security head on and there is would ways to address it. first you need to address the urgent issue of getting grain out of ukraine and accessible to those across sub saharan africa. and because russia has been such a huge provider of fertilizer, you're missing out of hundreds of millions of tons of fertilizer at the very moment here in ghana where the planting season it about to begin and

that is why we need to make sure that we support, the international federation for development and economic development, to make sure they could provide small hold agriculture farmers with access to fertilizers immediately. but then we also need to make sure that africa could return to be the bread basket of the world that it once was. so we need to long-term at the short-term and the long-term and that is what this came is about. >> thank you very much. great to see you. >> live from ghana and the 10th annual festival takes place on september 24th in central park as well as ghana. >> wonderful. it is just past the top of the hour. 9:00 in the east. 6:00 a.m. out west. and we start with new details about former president trump's deposition before lawyers from the new york attorney general's office. a source tells nbc news that

trump invoked his fifth amendment right against self-incrimination more than 440 times yesterday. one of trump's attorneys said, the former president took the fifth on questions about the valuations of various items including his golf courses, signing documents, mortgages, loans, and the size of his apartment. and there are riveting new details this morning following the fbi search of former president trump's mar-a-lago home earlier this week in florida. the "wall street journal" reports that trump insider flipped. and tipped off the fbi to the possibility that additional presidential records were being stored at mar-a-lago and were not turned over to the national archives. the tip allegedly came after an fbi visit on june 3rd when agents searched the became storage room and recommended trump install a more secure

lock. justice department officials reportedly had doubts that the trump team was being truthful regarding the -- what materially remains at the property. at same time, news week reports two senior government officials said the mar-a-lago search this week was largely based on information from an informant who told the fbi what documents trump was hiding in his florida resort. and where they were located. as a result, axios reports the mistrust and paranoia that normally swirls in the trump orbit is now intensifying with trump world reportedly trying to figure out who flipped. >> now, you know, the problem is here, mika, that the cast of characters, so expansive right now. could be -- it could be anybody really. but you look at the people who have already cooperated with the january 6 committee.

you look at all of the documents that mark meadows turned over to the january 6 committee. so many of those text messages that we talk about, we know because meadows voluntarily turned his phone over. you look at all of the people that have been testifying against donald trump that worked for him, as i've said, through the lowest points in his presidency through the two impeachments. they're providing some of the most riveting testimony now. so, donald trump can look to the left, look to the right and chances are good he's looking at somebody who is cooperating with the feds because as we have said, and this is why this is important, we always say all of the time, republicans know he's guilty and people around him know that he's guilty of this or that. of course it is speculation because in america you're innocent until proven guilty. but you talk to them and they think that he's done the thing that's he's been charged of

doing. why is that important for this investigation? it is important because people around him know that donald trump's probably not going to escape justice an that he'll throw them under the bus. and if you're mark meadows and saying do i not want to cooperate with the feds and do i want to lie to the feds and end up in prison. because they saw what he did to his lawyer for years. let him go to prison. threw him under the bus. everybody around him knows there is no loyalty in donald trump's world. no loyalty going down, so there is no loyalty going up and that is, mika, why he's such an isolated figure inside of mar-a-lago right now. >> it is has got to be really sort of scary that everyone that is around you, you just don't know. you don't know what they're saying. because when people are put under oath, most people know it is pretty serious thing and you

don't want to lie under oath. so it becomes a whole different ball game. the search of a former president's home also puts the department of justice under intense scrutiny. despite calls to break prt and release information about the investigation, the department so far has remained silent. two senior doj officials, one former, say that multiple people within the department think attorney general merrick garland should make a public statement about the warrant. on the other hand, former u.s. attorney joyce vance argues that publicly discussing a case where no charges have been filed will only give credence to those who say the search was politically motivated. joining us now, nbc news and msnbc legal analyst andrew weissmann who is also a former general counsel for the fbi and served as lead prosecutor in the mueller special council office. also with us, congressional correspondent for "the new york

times," annie carney. good to have you both with us this morning. we appreciate you joining us. >> so andrew, i'd love to get your insight on what is happening with the doj right now. you obviously, like so many people, frustrated at the information that you gathered during the mueller investigation. but that was not acted upon. do you think the doj's moving in the right direction and do they -- i'll ask you the question we've been asking everybody, do they have a responsible to be transparent and talk about why they raided donald trump, according to donald trump, raided, why they went in and conducted a search, a legal search at the time they did? >> you know, i think it is a tough question. the issue of whether and how much merrick garland should be saying, there is no question he has the legal authority to do that. but there are generally good and sufficient reasons why you don't

speak and joyce makes very strong points. on the the other hand, do think that it is important to -- for the department to serve the educational function and there is probably a limited amount that merrick garland could say even though it does lead down a slippery slope. and one thing that donald trump has been effective is having the conversation focus on shouldn't the justice department explain itself, when the real issue here is not focusing on the justice department explaining itself, but really having donald trump the former president of the united states explain why did he have these documents and what was he planning to do with them. that is the main issue. and is it too much to ask that the former president of the united states should explain why he has classified documents at mar-a-lago when they have no business being there. what was he doing taking them and why didn't he return them and what were his plans for them. that is the main issue and the former president of the united states should have to answer

those questions. and i really think that is a stronger question to be asking. and i think donald trump is just masterful at trying to change the focus of the conversation. >> yeah, you know, annie, what is so surprising, is that this is the first search that we saw of trump world. there is so many investigations that are going on right now, you can look at new york civil investigation when he pled the fifth but the one that a lot of us are looking at is the georgia inquiry. and you've written about this. he's facing so many different inquiries right now. >> there are so many. and in various states. you could look at new york. it is not just the civil suit that letitia james is bringing him, where he testified yesterday and pleaded the fifth. there is a criminal investigation that is ongoing, despite some road blocks it has

hit, in georgia. there is a wide-ranging criminal investigation into trump and his allies efforts to overturn the election there in 2020. and then you look at what is happening in washington. the january 6 hearings have -- in eight hearings they've laid out a compelling narrative about liz role in trying to overturn the election. and they don't have prosecutorial power but they could make a criminal referral to doj. it is unlikely, it is difficult but they have been talking about the potential of seditious conspiracy charges and in every one of the hearings we've heard liz cheney and others bring up the issue of witness tampering. they think that is low hanging fruit and they think they have seen evident of that. and then the doj is conducting its own investigation. and into his efforts and talking most recently to witnesses

about, you know, trump's own personal role in the -- in the 2020 election and overturned -- trying to overturn the results. so across a bunch of states in country, there is various investigations underway. five -- this is also serving as sort of a motivator for him to get in. when we heard about the raid earlier this week, one of the first things we heard trump allies say was, he's going to declare that he's running for president any day now. and they keep dangling this imminent announcement just to try and show that this is politically motivated by the biden administration, the doj. but having, you know, having all of these inquiries into him is according to people i talked to is a powerful motivator on his thinking of what he could benefit from running again. >> and mike barnical, the

ambiguity of telling people that he was raided and not telling people what was in the warrant which donald trump has access to. and which requires a lot of legal maneuvers and evidence to be presented to a judge in order to execute. that ambiguity leaving the question open, not giving people information is where his most effective ability to twist the truth lies. i know you have a question for andrew. >> you're correct, mika. and in everything you just said. and andrew, it's a public service, specifically to the viewers at fox news at night, could you please explain what is in a warrant, what is put in a warrant, what is expected from the warrant, and could you please also explain why fbi agents, not wearing the usual blue wind breaker with the yellow fbi on the back, agents who are not carrying weapons at mar-a-lago, why this was not

araid, it was just process serving, serving the warrant itself. you could explain all of that. >> sure. so first let's talk about the nomenclature, because i think it is important when people like the former president talk about a raid and breaking in. that is really doing a disservice to the rule of law, what happened here is that the fbi executed a court authorized search, they didn't break in, they didn't conduct a raid, they were given legal authority under the fourth amendment to entering a home and take certain items and then leave. and that is what -- by all accounts what they did. there has been no question about that. so the kind of language that has been used is a real disservice. and you know, the form he president if they could do it here, they could do it to anybody. and that is point.

anyone would be treated the same under the law. and there are three documents that are sort of involved. there is the warrant itself, which is just a short piece of paper that said you could go into a certain location at a certain time, and you could get certain information and you have to search only for that information. that document is given to donald trump. that is a piece of paper that he and his attorneys have. the second document is a supporting affidavit that the fbi swears to and an agent swears out all of the information under oath that set forth probable cause. that is probable cause of two things. that a crime was committed, and that evidence of that crime will be found at a particular location in this situation mar-a-lago. and it is not enough that the attorney general believe that's to be the case, and thinks that there is sufficient probable cause, a separate branch of government has to approve that.

and then finally there is the inventory which is a list of everything that was found and that is something that also donald trump has. and could easily make public. >> all right. in its later editor ol, the republican midterm election vectory writes in part, with november's midterms still three months away, the predicted red wave may be breaking far from the electoral shore. tuesday's elections were another sign that democratic voters are becoming more motivated. the gop should be making the midterms a refrn end um on biden's first two years. democrats would prefer to talk to november, until the end of time about mr. donald trump. so what would mr. trump and he has ensured gop that agree. this election is far from won even in the house.

and joe, i think these primaries show trump's strength and hi grip on the republican party. and it will be upon democrats to really unify, i think, behind their president's accomplishments and also the clear factors that the republicans have put on the table for them to fight as easily, especially as it pertained to things like abortion. >> right. and you know, everybody is talking about how -- i say not everybody, but a lot of political commentators in washington, d.c. are talking about how this is going to rev up the trump base or -- no, it is just not. the people that are for donald trump are far donald trump. >> they're not changing. >> if you're still for donald trump, after the insurrection, after his seditious actions on january 6, they're going to stay with him. so they're fired up. great. so maybe they'll try to vote two or three times if you follow

donald trump's sort of, you know, his view point that elections are rigged. of course, they can't do that. so they've got their one vote. that is it. but i do think it is interesting and we referenced this before, that the "wall street journal" editor ol page and the new york post, other conservative outlets that have been critical of trump as its pertained to january 6 has been critical of republicans, falling in line, been critical of some of the candidates that donald trump selected, and, annie carney, it is fascinating that donald trump wants more than anything to whip people in a frenzry and to keep leaking stories to the news outlets that i keep reading and roll my eyes and go oh, my god, please stop playing into donald trump's hands. that trump must run now.

people are begging him to run. no, mitch mcconnell doesn't want him to run. kevin mccarthy doesn't want him to run. the "wall street journal" editorial page doesn't want him to run, because donald trump loses elections for republicans. but, that is what he's trying to get out there, isn't it? >> he certainly is into the -- the latest thing i seen him doing is playing a guessing game about who is going to be his vp, which is like, so far ahead of -- for someone who hasn't even declared a candidate. that is not the first priority of a candidate getting into the race. but he's already floating this or that person could be a good running mate. the republicans in elected office are really torn about trump. we see them -- we saw them kind of rally around mike pence a few weeks ago when he came to the hill and did a fundraiser with kevin mccarthy and spoke to the republican study committee, and

then we saw you know, 24 hours after the fbi search, a group of house republicans went to bedminster to have din we are trump and they saw it as a opportunity to show solidarity. it is long planned but still trump released pictures. so, they constantly are doing this back and forth with him. they can't afford to alienate him and they feel open to other potential ideas if he was to go away. and it's continuing to be complicated. but then kevin mccarthy, certainly, if he has a narrow majority in the house and trump is running for president, and the democrats keep control of the senate, the house will be trump's instrument and he will be led around by the more extreme members of his conference and by donald trump's desires of what he wants to do. i can't imagine that is what he wants for next year. as trump's speaker. >> well, a lot could happen in

the next couple of moz. this is going to be very interesting. annie carney and andrew weissmann, thank you both very much for being on the show this morning. and up next, the national average of gas, a gallon of gas is finely inching below $4 a gallon and we'll explain why it could cover up a bigger issue. plus white house senior adviser anita dunn joins us after a big week for the biden administration. how will they keep the momentum going until november? and later, the lead singer of one of the biggest bands in the world, dan reynolds of imagine dragons will be here on the group's efforts to help ukraine. "morning joe" will be right back.

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26 past the hour. and take a look at seattle as commuters get ready to hit the roads. some of them already out there. and this morning, they're dealing with the national average price of gas which is back under $4 per gallon. the first time since march. is this temporary? nbc news correspondent tom costello reports. >> reporter: this morning more relief at the pump and coming below a key number, gas prices dropping below $4 a gallon for the first time since march. prices skyrocketed this summer amid inflation, supply concerns and the war in ukraine. today the national average is now $3.99, down $1.03 from the peak back in june. >> i'm grateful. >> but prices are still much higher than they were just a year ago. all part of continuing inflation, eating into every day

americans' pocketbooks and today the latest economic numbers show no change with the inflation numbers month to month. good news, with the overall year-over-year inflation number dipping slightly. down to 8.5%. still hot. and still at decades high levels. >> everything is -- what i paid a year. >> reporter: president biden hopes congress will help move the relief needle in the right direction. >> we need to pass thein nation reduction act right away. that is the most consequential thing that congress can do. >> reporter: but experts say the $430 billion piece of legislation the house is set to take up tomorrow will have little effect on the more immediate factors that could help lower inflation. >> it doesn't strike me that there is any legislation that is going to fix thein florida is pressure in the short-term. >> meanwhile housing and food costs continue to climb. with higher prices on all of the major grocery staples. biggest hike in eggs which are nearly doubled to about $3 for a

carton. all of it adding to what is already been an unprecedented and unpredictable economy. >> a month ago everybody was concerned about a possible recession. is that no longer as big of a concern. >> recession is still a concern. but if we could indeed lower the rate of price increases, lower inflation, then consumers have a fighting chance in this economy. >> let's bring in cnbc correspondent dom chu. if you look at the parks -- the markets yesterday, they don't think that a recession is underway. talk about the big rally yesterday. >> the big rally yesterday came because of the softer than expected inflation numbers. on the consumer level. and that is in many ways a very direct reflection of the prices that we all pay as consumers out there. what is even more curious is we followed it up again this morning with producer prices or the ppi number, which is business level inflation. inflation at the wholesale level so to speak.

that came in softer than expected as well. and it actually fell month on month. the first decline that we've seen month over month since april. so it is another tea leaf, and there is another sign that perhaps the inflationary story is in the process of peaking and again, i mean, joe, we talked about this yesterday, nobody has the guts right now really to come out and say in flation is at the top because there is down side to make a call like that. but the markets are rallying, because if you do have a situation where producer prices and consumer prices are starting to ease a bit, what that could lead to down the line is people spending less money on food, fuel and other things so that they could spend more money on taking vacations, dining out, going to the mall, buying those type of things and if businesses are paying a little bit less thar for the input into products, maybe profit margins get better. so all of that taken into account. you mentioned the recessionary narrative, that is an important

part of the story because interest rates also fell on the heels of that, indicating perhaps that wall street thinks inflation may not be as big of a problem going forward and, by the way, joe, if it is not as big of a problem that, means people might pay up more for things like growth and technology stocks. that is the reason why the rally kicked off the way that it did and is continuing again today. >> if, and it is a big if, if inflation is peaked, people will look back a couple of years from now and say oh, it is so obvious what happened. you have, as steve rattner has been telling us, covid allowed people to put $2 trillion on the side lines and they weren't able to save money. you had the covid relief acts that pumped more money into the economy. and there is a lot of money that people were burning through. you look at gas prices at the beginning of the summer, the demand is high because of course people travel more in the summer. starting to -- to sort of demand going down a good bit.

so, to seems rational that we're moving in this direction but we never know. so my question is this, the oil and gas analysts that you talk to, what are they telling you the big drop in gas prices is related to, going from $5 to under $4? >> so what is interesting now is you have a demand picture of course that is seasonably strong. people drive more in the summertime. but the marks are often forward-looking mechanisms. they're discounting mechanisms. meaning they try to predict what available information is right now and what it will be in the future and they try to put a price on it today. what you are seeing in gasoline prices and even oil prices overall, is that a lot of the demand that is at play right now is very short-term in nate. if you look at futures markets, what people think and what traders think prices will be in the future, gasoline prices and oil prices are actually lower

than they are right now during months in the future. that kind of a dynamic at play could indicate, again, that there is not as much of a -- that the real surge in demand is always going to be very short-term. but there are supply and demand dynamics in the future that may indicate lower prices down the line. now the real wild card here, joe, is we still obviously have a war between russia and ukraine that has an impact on oil prices along with the embargo placed on russian oil and gas. there are middle east producers that are debating right now about whether or not they want to kind of crank those spigots on a little more or hold things the way they are. when you have supply constrained, their balances sheets are better off. saudi arabia and all of the gulf countries are better off. so those are factors going forward. but we'll see whether or not the prices remain depressed for right now. but i'll take the relief at pump when i could get it. >> dom chu, thank you very much.

while we're on the topic of the economy, joining us now, wouse senior adviser anita dunn. it is good to have you this morning. we have a lot to cover but we'll stay on the economy, anita. and start there. and ask, given the world crisis at hand, and other factors that may be outside of the control of this white house, who should the american people be prepared for, pertaining to the economy and the months ahead? >> well, good morning, mika. it is great to be on with you today. what the american people should be prepared for and what they could look to is a president who has put in place an economic plan that is going to work for them as we move forward. that is going to build an economy that works from the bottom up and the middle out. not from the top down. and if you look at the four major pieces of economic legislation, his plan that he has put in place since he became president, the rescue plan, the infrastructure plan, the chips

plan that was signed this week, and then the inflation reduction act of 2022 which we are hopeful the house will pass tomorrow. what you see is an effort to lower prices on things that people really depend on. like prescription drugs, like energy costs. and an investment in manufacturing that has already caused a larger growth in manufacturing jobs and we've seen for a long time in this country. and that will allow us to make it in american so we don't get the inflation from supply chain problems that we've seen since the beginning of pandemic. it is really -- what they should expect is to see, we believe, continued progress, always a few bumps if the road, but continues progress and in an economy that works for the people who work for a living in this country. and thought just the wealthiest people. >> want to ask you about the big headline of the day, of course, is all of the different legal woes confronting former

president trump. many around president trump is suggesting loudly that the search for classified records at mar-a-lago was coordinated somehow with the white house. does the white house have anything to do with what happened at mar-a-lago? the past 48 hours? >> you know, mika, when joe biden ran for president, one of the things that he said the most often on the campaign trail i'm sure you heard him say this, is that he would restore the rule of law to this government. part of the rule of law is that the department of justice is going to conduct these investigations free of any political interference. free of the white house telling them what to do. or orchestrating anything. and that is what this administration has done. so attorney general merrick garland has the independence to do what he needs to do and it white house gives him that independence because that is the way government is supposed to work. >> well, then the question is,

about transparency, i think many are calling for that and the question i have for you is do you think that doj should be more transparent about what happened? there is a lot of dangerous surmising going on and many on the far right saying that this raid, they call it, was a declaration of war. should the doj explain what is going on? >> mika, as i've said, and i'm not going further than this, the doj, the department of justice, is going to conduct its investigation independently. and we at the white house are not going to direct this in any way. >> all right, and anita, let me ask you finally, obviously president biden, as you know well, i don't have to tell you this, have been on a successful slaef run and looks like the anti-inflation act is going to be signed into law. but that is just going to -- you look at v.a. and you look at the

gun legislation, you look at the bipartisan infrastructure bill. he's probably done more than legislatively than any president. maybe since ronald reagan. maybe lbj. i'm curious, what is next? what is the next goal for the white house legislatively? how does he -- how does he -- how does he leverage these successes with his next step moving forward? >> so, joe, good to be with you. as you point out, this is been an extraordinarily successful 18 months of joe biden's presidency. and what is notable about it is the number of things that have been done in a bipartisan way as well as those bills like the inflation reduction act that the republicans refuse to vote for. but if you look at the veterans bill that he signed yesterday, the pact act, to deal with veterans and families who are suffering the after effects of burn pits afghanistan, if you

look at the bipartisan infrastructure deal or the chips bill also signed yesterday which is going to give us the tools we need to compete in the future and to make it here in america, the president will build on this. his unity agenda which he laid out in the state of union, and he laid out what democrats and republicans should work together on. so addressing the continued opioid crisis that we have in this country is one of those things that he believes we should work together on and that we can work together on. cancer, and ending cancer as we know it. something very bipartisan that he believes everyone should work on together and that he will continue to push. and he will also continue to work towards an economy that really does work for the working people in this country. so i think building on this legislative agenda, you could see a continued focus on those things that unify this country and also pushing forward on things that have yet to be done.

so, you know, he has used the assault weapons ban as an example of something where we really need action. 75% of the people in this country believe that we should abolish assault weapons, not let them be sold to 18-year-olds, for heavens sakes, that can't even buy a beer, that is something we'll continue pushing on as well. >> anita dunn, thank you so much for coming on the show this morning. we really appreciate it. and up next, doing whatever it takes. the lead singer of the grammy award winning group "imagine dragons" will be here as they join with president volodymyr zelenskyy to help the people of ukraine. "morning joe" will be right back.

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the music video from bones, lead single off rock band "imagine dragons" newest album entitled "murky act one and two" and they kicked off in support of the album last week where lead singer dan reynolds dedicated a song to the people of ukraine. and the front man joins us now. "imagine dragons" was recently named ambassadors for united 24, a fundraiser launched by ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. it is great to you have on the show. >> thanks for being with us. and just as sometime tap was huge in japan, you guys are huge in ukraine and across the world with sold-out shows in ukraine. but talk about, you obviously have connections all across the world. talk about why ukraine is so

special to you guys, why you're so focused in helping out the people there? >> you know, would you say first and foremost, it is just as important as, you know, being in 2022, anywhere there is war is a travesty. i think in this particular case it is really easy to look in and see that ukraine needs help. that they are in a position that is wrong and that putin is wrong. and it is just one of those simple situations where, you know, it is an easy decision, i guess. i would say. >> so, i want to talk specific about how you're helping there. but before we do, we alluded to a very moving moment in the kickoff of our north american tour in salt lake city. where you did a dedication to the people of ukraine. could you tell us about that? >> yeah, i mean, you know, i hate to say that it feels trite,

but it feels trite, if i'm honest with you. we live in a day and age where it is easy to get online and say we're sending our thoughts, or thinking about this. it is easy for me to be on stage and say we dedicate this to ukraine. so i mean, i appreciate the notion, but really for me our goal is just to raise as much awareness as possible and to actually change it as much as possible. i think that is what everybody wants. so for me, this is why it is important to actual change and this is a way that people could do something, go to 24.gov and donate to ukraine. there is incredible caused to be a part it of buying ambulances, putting money on ground. so that is the goal. >> and that is what i wanted to let people that are watching know, this is isn't some gemmized effort to help the people of ukraine and you don't know why the money is going.

talk about this first project that you guys are working together with the first lady of ukraine to actually pay for these ambulances which i guess cost about $100,000 per ambulance? >> yeah, we had an incredible honor of meeting with president zelenskyy and he was able to tell us about the first lady 's initiative. which, you know, if you want to understand that at a very base level how drastic this is, what is going on, they have had so many ambulances destroyed at this point that they don't have enough ambulances on the ground to help the amount of people that need the help. there are children dying. that is not -- that is not an understatement. this is an incredibly scary thing. every day that goes by this isn't front headline news is a travesty. so, yeah, this is a way that you could help directly buy these ambulances that could help people in desperate need. there is a lot of other ways

that you could help. like i said if you go to u24.gov.ua. and this initiative, it has so many different ways that you could help in a real way more than just typing on social media, more than singing a song on stage. and so i just i really appreciate you guys taking this time to shine a light on this today. that is what president zelenskyy, i said how could we help and he said talk about it. get it out there. go on the news, talk about it. don't -- and above all donate. we could talk until we are blew in the face, but donate. money makes a difference. even if it is just a dollar. >> hey, dan, how did this come about, this connection between you and ukraine? i mean, you spoke to president zelenskyy, he's kind of a hard guy to get to for some people. apparently you got to him clearly? how did it come about? what is the connection? >> i mean, it certainly helps to

be a singer in this band with this gigantic band, and i just -- the path of least resistance is-n my life's goal and my wife has taught me and shown me that way and that door has just been an open door for us. ukraine is a big place for the band. the band is really huge there. harry potter is big there and imagine dragons is really big if ukraine. we had to cancel our show there, stadium show, with tens of thousands of people. we also had to cancel our show in russia. multiple shows in russia. and, so it is a big location for us. it opens the door. but it also is just sung on stage now, we've been on tour for six months and that was one little way, you know, to raise awareness. you were over there right across the border, we were in, you know, in europe and able to at least sing about it and then

they reached out, i think it was like on twitter. i don't even know. >> yeah, all right. well, dan, thank you so much. for being with us to spread the word on an issue that obviously means a hell of a lot to free-loving ukraine and the united states, but across the world. thanks so much for what you're doing. and just a reminder, the north american leg of the mercury tour is under way now. imagine dragons' frontman dan reynolds, thank you so much. as dan said, you can help out by going to united24 and donating. up next, beto o'rourke shuts down a hecklering in a big way. we'll play for you moment all over social media. l play for yo over social media.

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good morning. 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. this morning new fallout after former president trump pleaded the fifth more than 400 times in front of the new york attorney general on wednesday. we'll break down where the civil investigation into the former president's business practices goes from here. some relief for drivers filling up their tanks today. gas prices have not fallen below $4 a gallon for the first time in months. americans are still paying much higher prices for groceries and other essentials. also this morning, new details about the alleged iranian plot to murder john bo