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ginn, simone sanders picks things up right now. greetings. you are watching simone. we have so much to get through today starting with the search warrant a trump's mar-a-lago home. we have details about the dozens of boxes by the fbi. i'm talking classified information, top secret documents. former cia director john vernon is here to break down a potential threat to national security. plus, the house passed an inflation reduction act. this is a major step for curbing climate change. improving health care, and lowering the deficit. frankly, it will be a dereliction of duty if democrats don't shop on the rooftops and the media apparatus has not ask about the importance of this bill. and today, in this simone spotlight, the mother of black hollywood, miss jennifer lewis. she is dropping jobs and how you can walk in your joy, and navigate the times that we are living in.
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i'm simone sanders, and i have something to say. d i have something to say what's a weekend has been. it started with former president trump telling the world the fbi had entered his florida home mar-a-lago. and now, we are getting a look at the search warrant that started at all after the department of justice and sealed it. now that weren't told us where agents searched in the home, but it is what they seized in the roughly 20 boxes of government records that she really need to pay attention to. so, what was it? well. we have 11 sets of documents altogether. three sets classified as confidential, three classified secret, and for top secret. and one set of t s s c i. that sounds for top secret sensitive compartmentalized information. that is the queen mother of all
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classified documents. we also learned this week that this search warrant traces back to the very top of the department of justice, attorney general merrick garden linda himself. >> i personally approved the decision to seek a search warrant in this matter. the department is not take such decisions lightly. we are possible, it is standard practice to see less intrusive means as an alternative to a search and too narrowly scope any search that is undertaken. >> and now, the new york times is reporting that at least one trump lawyer signed a statement in june quote, asserting that all materials marked as classified, and held in boxes in a storage area, and minister trumps margo legault residents and club had been returned to the government. the report, which cites for people with knowledge of the documents, goes on to say that quote, the existence of the signed declaration which is not previously been reported, is a possible indication that mr.
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trump was not fully forthcoming the federal investigators. you should note that nbc news has not seen this document. and a spokesperson for the former president indicated that the times report was based on quote, anonymous searches, and no hard facts. there is so much to break down. and i can get anyone better to explain it on the former director of the cia, john brennan. thank you, mister director for joining us. okay, we just explained all the different types of classified documents that agents took from mar-a-lago. can you make it clear for folks what sensitive, compartmentalized in formation is? and if you could also speak to, why it is such a security threat for someone to have that kind of information in their home? >> well, at the top secret level there is a certain department called as you said, sensitive compartmented information intelligence. that is known as tss i. this is related to the most sensitive national security secrets that the united states house in terms of the
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intelligence collection systems. whether they be technical or otherwise. and there are very strict handling and storage requirements for all tedious of cia material and documents. usually in government facilities with 24/7 arm garments and alarm systems. so, it is wanting to make sure that in order to prevent any type of compromise to this information that could help our adversaries and heard a national security, there are very sharp restrictions in terms of who can handle it and where it can be stored. and clearly, the fact that it was at mar-a-lago which is not a secure facility, raises serious questions about who might have access this information and what the damage might have been to u.s. national security. >> thank you for breaking that down, mister director. right before the show, nbc news reported that the heads of the house oversight intelligence committees are now asking the director of national intelligence for a damaged assessment of the classified documents related to the
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mar-a-lago search. you know firsthand spy top secret documents are critical to the intelligence community. can you explain what's a damage assessment would actually entail? >> well, the fbi with any investigation is trying to collect all the documents that may have been retained illegally at mar-a-lago. and they are also trying to determine who might have access to it. they will then work very closely with the agencies and the intelligence community. the cia, and say, and others. to determine if this information was released somehow, to foreign adversaries or whomever, what the compromise could be in terms of lives that might be at risk as well as very sensitive and important tactical collection systems that give us insight into what our adversaries might be doing. so these are done routinely anytime there is this type of breach of security practices. and so i am sure the director
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of national intelligence is now working very closely with the fbi and the rest of the intelligence community to ascertain exactly what the compromise about the damage might be. >> and is it normal for that damage to be made available for the members of the house oversight committee? >> i am sure that the intelligence committees in both the senate and the house will want to get briefed on the damage. and they won't wait for the entire damages has meant to be done, because i can take quite some time. so i am sure that there is going to be some triaging that is stan. i am sure that there is also some damage assessment that have already been done as a result of the documents that were retrieved earlier this year from mar-a-lago. because they were in fact retained at mar-a-lago, and not in the appropriate storage and handling requirements that are necessary. so, yes, i think that the congressional oversight committees will have full insight into how damaging the situation is. >> now, director, i remember
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back in february of 2021 when president biden stopped former president trump from receiving intelligence briefings. and it was a big deal that he did this, and he said that he couldn't be trusted because of his erratic behavior. so, is there and concern, do you personally have any concern because it was donald trump in particular who had possession of these what we now know is classified material? >> i think throughout its presidency donald trump demonstrated a very serious disregard for the security practices that are necessary to protect this nation's secrets and this nation's national security. and so therefore, i am sure that his behavior, his actions, did not change at all after he left office. and so therefore, i think it was quite prudent on the part of president biden to restrict access to classified material. because of donald trump's demonstrated disregard for the appropriate handling of
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national security information. >> all right, former cia director john brennan, thank you for being here and making it all makes sense. appreciate you, sir. >> thank you, symone. >> i want to now bring in a room at vision oh what a. she is a reporter for the wall street journal, the first paper to get a look at the warrant. all right, let's get into. you just heard my conversation with director brandon. and we know that the warrant cited three laws as a legal basis for the search. i think that what is getting a lot of the attention is the espionage act. and it makes it clear that nobody can misuse in formation related to national defence. but, just because people are talking about a violation of the espionage act, it doesn't mean that merrick garland will charge donald trump with anything, am i right? >> that is certainly right, and thanks symone for having me on. this warrant is pretty limited window into the entire investigation. and the fact that they list the three laws, mean that they are
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investigating whether or not there are potential violations of any of these laws. but our understanding is sort of that first they want to go in and secure these documents and then explore why they're any charge crimes here to charge. so at this point, we don't have any serious indication that they are considering it an espionage charge. but it's clearly they are looking at whether or not there are potential violations there. >> see, that is what i thought. aruna thank you very much. so take us beside the justice department. can you break down what officials will do about attorney general garland's approach to both executing the warrant, and the decision that he made to respond to former president trump's claims? >> sure. clearly over the justice department and the fbi sort of linger the ghosts of 2016 and everything that happened with the investigation with hillary clinton's potential mishandling
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of classified information in the russia investigation. and so, they are not eager to execute a search warrants like this. and over the course of several months, what we have learned this week's folks around the former president are telling the justice department that, okay, we turn over everything in here is the classified information we have. we are good. and then, we know that at the justice department of the fbi they were starting to get pretty skeptical of that. they were hearing from someone familiar with additional documents that may have been at mar-a-lago and so they issued a subpoena to get some more records. they understand that they're still potentially more records, and so they end up taking this step as a way to sort of further this investigation because they believe that they're still stuck there that they weren't getting. so, they definitely didn't take the step lightly and then you asked about how he came to make the statement this week. i know to begin with they
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didn't want to say anything, obviously on monday. right, because merrick garland. sorry to interrupt you, arruda, but merrick garland is not the person who is going to come out and respond to anyone when it comes to an investigation little in the former president of the united states of america. but he did this. time >> that's right. he did. because the president disclosed it himself, that gives the justice department a little bit more leeway to say well, the person who was the subject of the search warrant has already disclosed it, so we can tell you a little bit more about it, if the court will let us. >> so, aruna, before you go, i think one of the many things the former president has been saying. he said a lot about the search, but he said it was unnecessary. because they quote, could have had the information anytime they wanted without playing politics and breaking into mar-a-lago. it does seem to me that donald trump forgot about some subpoenas asking for the documents back in the spring. if you wanted to avoid all of this, shouldn't he have just
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handed them over then? >> we don't have a very clear window into this right now. there are two sides seeing this very differently. from the justice department, they clearly believe that there is still stuff there. when you are hearing from trump world is that you know hey, we kind of what they wanted and we are cooperating and. so, it is really going to be key wentz is in these actual documents and what is in these boxes and how sensitive was as and why did they still happen there. that is something that we are hoping to learn in the coming weeks. >> all right, when we are all waiting with baited brush. aruna viswanatha, then you very much for being here. coming up, they're just 87 days until the midterms, so decisions about -- from both parties can be more crucial. here to give us the inside scoop on the democrats plan is chairman of the democratic national committee, jaime harrison. but first, my colleague richard louis is here with today's other top news stories. richard, what you got?
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>> hey, simone. good saturday to you. the suspect in the attack on author salman rushdie this morning entered a not guilty plea. the suspect is charged with attempted murder and assault. where she's agent says rusty is on a ventilator, has a damaged liver, severed nerves, and likely a loss of an eye. rusty has faced death threats for his novel the satanic versus for more than three decades. the u.s. counsel india want to mexico, telling government employees there and in parts of baja california to shelter in place amid an escalation in violence. the consulate says they're mid multiple vehicle fires, roadblocks, and heavy police activity in the aryan friday night. and the justice department is investigating the southern baptist convention over sexually abuse allegations. it is a country's largest protestant denomination. earlier this year, the southern baptist convention released a review that said top church officials of past reports of sexual abuse for over two decades. more simone right, after this break. simone right, after thi break.
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this week, the new cycle has been dominated by a lot. developments, particularly out of mar-a-lago about classified documents. but there are other big news stories. yesterday's passage of the inflation reduction act in the house of representatives. biden plans to sign this monumental, and turn it into law next week. it's the latest in a string of legislative victories and achievements for his administration. , plus there's some indication
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that the midterm elections may not be the bloodbath for democrats that has been predicted. the latest fox news poll shows 41% back the democratic candidate in their house district. a tie with republicans. back in may, republicans had a seven-point advantage. joining me now is a man who is following all of this very closely, jaime harrison, the chairman of the democratic national committee. chairman, welcome to you. i want to get to the midterms in a moment, but first we have to talk about these stunning developments. the top secret and other classified documents were treated during an fbi search of the former president's home in florida. your counterpart at the national committee -- the republican national committee is calling the search the weaponization of the justice department. what's your reaction to that? >> listen, symone, congratulations. i haven't seen you since the wedding. congratulations. as far as the rnc, nobody is above the law in this country.
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not even a former president. it says a lot that they can't even understand in and dependent doj following the facts, after trump's abuse for four years. under the trump administration, the doj was an extension of the trump white house. but that's not the case. we're going back to the doj doing what you do in an independent fashion without politics, without the white house input. it's sad, but -- if you follow ronan, her exaggerations and lies is just commonplace, that's just what we do when we look at today's republic -- republican party. >> let's get back to the midterms. historically, we've all been hearing about, it the party in power loses an average of 26 seats in midterm elections. according to -- the democrats only have a slim nine seat majority right now. you have said, though, that the democrats could hold that majority in november. frankly, i think you may be
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right. i did not think that six months ago. but when you look at the history, plus inflation, plus the presidents poll number, they're low, wet makes you optimistic? i know i'm optimistic, what about you? >> we see the momentum on our side. the joe -- momentum, if you want. you know better than anyone else. don't bet against joe biden. he was down -- going against south carolina, he got the wind malign -- behind his sales, and he was able not only to win the primary victory, he also went on to win the presidency. even though his agenda was stalled for a second, you look at where joe biden and democrats in the house and senate have been able to accomplish and really you have to step back and look back in a historical context. this man has a 50 50 united states senate. less than a five seat majority
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right now. and what if we accomplished in two years? it's almost more than you would see in a presidency over eight years. the inflation reduction act just got past. the chips act, he just signed last week. he passed the pact act to support her bedrooms. the american rescue plan, the bipartisan infrastructure law. putting a black women on the supreme court, the violence against women act reauthorization. gun safety laws for the first time in 30 years. record low unemployment -- on and on. and >> it's a long list. i want to put this graphic up on the screen for folks. actually, they're telling me we don't have the graphic. but i'm gonna show the graphic during the show. a lot has gotten done. you just listed it off, you take it off right here. i do think there's been criticism, a view, of the democratic national committee talking about the lack of effective messaging, but i just heard -- you made the point that these
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victories didn't start a few weeks ago, he's been getting these things done for a while. we are still, the, hearing jaime suggesting -- and i'm talking about democrats -- saying that the president should not run for reelection. but these accomplishments happened on his watch. why do you not think the apparatus isn't rallying around the president more? >> i think those folks need to focus on what's important, which is doing the work of the american people. i can tell you that's where joe biden and kamala harris are focused on each and every day. that's when nancy pelosi and chuck schumer are focused on each and every day. everyone else needs to focus on that. folks have a lot of extra energy to criticize. let me give them something they can do. go to democrats dot org, click on that take action button. you can make some more phone calls to some of these voters to make sure that they're
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registered to vote, and they're ready to go and vote for democrats in the house and senate, and our legislative bodies across the states this november. because we've got a focus on what's at hand. rome is burning because of republican extremism. we need to focus on keeping our majorities and continuing to do the work to improve the lives of the american people. >> i could not agree with you more. i think that there's a messaging piece of this, but then there's also this piece about democracy itself. many states have election deniers on the republican ballot. some like arizona's carey lake, she's making false claims about election fraud, michigan, another battleground. there are reports of republican groups encouraging election workers to disrupt voting sites -- to call 9-1-1 to report voting irregularities. then you have one of the candidates in michigan who's
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accused -- there's just too much going on. you've talked about a 50 state voting protection strategy. tell us more about that, and what is exactly the plan for this fall, because i have concerns. >> well, symone, listen. as you know, when you are with the vice president, we announced on the campus of howard university last summer, a 25 million dollar program for voter protection, or voter education, to counter subversive activity that we see many of our states. for every year we've been building the largest voter protection program and the history of the dnc. we've got voter protection stands all over the country working hand in glove with her state parties, to make sure voters have the education they they need, the materials that they need, and to make sure that we can push back against republican attempts to keep voters from the polls. to keep them from having their
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votes count. that's been happening for well over a year. along with so much more. we are pouring money into state parties like we've never done before. when i was a state party chair, we got $5,000 a month from the dnc. >> that's not a lot of money -- we have to be very clear. >> not a lot. right now, each state party is getting at least $15,000 a month. the south carolina party, on top of a number of grants that were provided to state parties to do voter registration for the first time in 30 years. there's so much going on right now, people aren't getting here a whole lot of headlines about it. i'm not gonna be under coach to give him the updates. but we are investing in the infrastructure of this party. that is the thing that's going to make the difference in november. >> all right, well jaime harrison, thank you my friend for being here and shedding a little light on what's going on. >> thank you. >> after the break, we are going to break down the
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talk to a hand specialist about your options, including nonsurgical treatments. to needed oversight, over encounter biloxi, and a fulsome investigation to provide transparency to the american people regarding joe biden and his administration's weaponization of the department of justice and fbi against joe biden's political opponent.
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>> that is house republican conference chair elise chiffon. not only condemning the search to turn up top secret documents at donald trump's private club, but also blaming president joe biden. now before you roll your eyes, i want you to remember january six. and remember what house majority leader says about statements like that. >> i do want to say that the reaction of some republicans particularly in the congress of the united states, are extraordinarily dangerous and insightful violence. >> let's chew on this with my awesome political panel, grace and that is a senior politics but reporter from inside her. just proposes at the post of the democratic campaign committee. and re-galen's nose of the lincoln project podcast and an independent political strategist. all right folks. you can sum up the right-wing chatter about the mar-a-lago search by listening to the first few seconds of a fox news show from last night. let me play for you how they
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describe what was taken from trump's home. here is what could've been a threat from international security. the grant of clemency to roger stone. 11 or brown box of documents, two binders of photos. there were boxes the agents have designated as top secret. documents the trump essence that were declassified. >> now, reed, people might want to laugh this off but explain why this is not funny? >> well, a couple of things i think you first need to understand. these lies are not for us. they are for the people watching fox news. they are for the people that are deeply embedded in the trump estate there were therrien movement and believe in him. that is what these are for. not for the truth, that is not part of the deal anymore. and the more outrageous, the more these folks believe it unfortunately. so what i think you will see is that the right wing is will move to find any space they can for donald trump. and the truth is nothing to do with it. it just doesn't exist in their
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world. so, when you see that he left vacation, thing again, once you heard donald trump say i declassify them, you know that means he didn't. so whatever it is he says out loud, you can take the opposite is what the truth is in the real world. which is again, i think it is very important everybody watching to understand, none of this is for you and me. this is for a very specific audience. >> which is why it is so dangerous, because his words are being believed. i don't know if you remember, but my mother used to say your words of consequences. and i think we have already seen consequences. this is ricky shy for at the january 6th riot, and earlier this week he tried to break into the fbi office in columbus ohio with a nail gun and was killed by police after an armed standoff with officers. that led to fbi director christopher wray to issue a statement assuring his agents that they're quote, safety and security are a primary concern. greg, some people would have you believe that is not elected officials, it is social media
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that is causing this. i think that that is incorrect. i think the reality is everyone has a responsibility here, am i right? >> yeah, absolutely. politicians words do matter especially when it comes to people. whether it is marjorie taylor greene referring to fbi agents as brownshirts, and normalizing this kind of violence in these kinds of threats. i think that it is coming downstream. this is all sort of connected to all of the attacks on institutions that we have seen normalized, starting with the january six riots. >> yeah, this is, and as you've been talking about before january 6th, i'm thinking back to michigan when armed individuals were occupying the state capital because of governor whitmer's covid rules. let's talk locals, okay. because you are in touch with campaigns, legislative campaigns. we're talking about state houses. have you heard anything about republicans response to the search impacting these local elections? . >> look, when we know for sure is that the republicans at the state legislative level are
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trump's party. despite what you may have seen during the 16 hearings, a number of republicans including mike short key, who is featured in those hearings have run around with militias, which again we thought as you mentioned was a dress reversal for january 6th. they have engaged in radical rhetoric about the election being stolen. in fact, mike jerk even at one point said that he thought antifa was responsible for january six. so this type of rhetoric is happening at the state legislative level. there are certainly people at the federal level that are saying the same thing. and really it is trump's party. that is really what we are seeing at the legislative level and it could be very dangerous in terms of the decertification of american elections in 2024. >> i think it is something everyone asked to be vigilant about. we've been saying on the show that the threat did not and. it wasn't the end on january six, it was just the beginning when it comes to the threat to our democracy. everyone is shaking their head, yeah this is. right before we leave this topic, i want to talk about the
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irony here. that is donald trump throwing a fit about the search. house majority leader cindy hoyer had something to say about that too. take a listen to this. >> it is interesting the hypocrisy that exists with respect to the overwhelming support of the fbi investigating clinton. when she was running for president of the united states. and, subpoenaing that computer, and things of that nature. overwhelming support by republicans of that. and now, with a former president to, like clinton is not president of the united states, and she was not at that time. the reaction is, this is weaponization. >> not only that, okay, but just trump also forget that he was the one who signed the law making it a felony to have classified documents in personal possession? grace, do you think the former president remembers? i don't know. >> yeah, and either way it is the most immense irony for
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trump to get choked up on something involving national security, classified information. he has been known to tell his associates for decades, it is the little things to get you. and that it may end up being the case here. we don't know yet, but it would certainly be quite a bit and to have began his campaign. >> that is for sure. grace, jessica, read. stick around, don't go anywhere. because when we come back there are two big stories this week, and we are gonna talk about the other one. that is the democrats major legislative win, and what it means for the american people in the midterms. this is the moment for democrats to reshape the narrative about that potential red wave. but are they capitalizing on it? well, we are going to have that conversation next. stick around. conversation next. stick around stick around when hurting feet make you want to stop, it's dr. scholl's time. our custom fit orthotics use foot mapping technology to give you personalized support, for all-day pain relief. find your relief in store or online. our political panel is back
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now awaiting president biden's signature. this is a historic piece of legislation. it lowers health care, cost combats climate change, raises taxes on large companies than anybody making over 400 k a year. and it reduces the deficit. a lot of people have been saying, president biden finally got a win here. but take a look at this graphic. i referenced conversation with jaime harrison, we have it now. the white house is planning to emphasize that the president has delivered on promises that he made on the campaign trail. jessica, why do you think democrats are not getting more questions about this? and if they get the questions, do you think they have got the right answers? >> i think so, and i hope so. certainly i could not be prouder of went the president has done as a democrat and there's some one who is proud of this administration. i do think that republicans are doing everything they can to distract from presidents accomplishments. they don't have clear solutions, and now in the states everything they're trying to do is to relay the 2020 election
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and put new abortion bans in place. so, i think that we need to talk more about these national accomplishments and look at what democrats have done. they've done rebates, and a number of other things. so my hope is that we will continue to talk about these winds, as some of the products that have been bringing down gas prices, and some of the other things sink in for the american people. >> reed, let's talk about some of our republican friends. the republican friends in congress that voted against things like capping health care costs for seniors, capping the cost of insulin to $35 for seniors. they've been stacking the right house around for inflation for months. and then they voted against a bill to curb inflation. so how did they defend that to voters, or the people of it at that that's what they did? >> well, they won't tell them what they did because remember this all performance art at this point. there is no policy. it is all about making sure
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that they can drive down as much support with suburban white voters, candidly. and i think also the huge import of the president success here, and i think the democratic congress's success, is that it is proving that government can work, remember that when fdr passed the new deal it wasn't simply about a bunch of programs that were gonna support the american people. it was that democracy could work. and i think that the president and the democratic congress is proving that here to, which is that when people come together across i think a pretty divided, sometimes democrats crowded congress they can get things done and they understand that things can work. and you see that when the presidents approval ratings, it's up ten 12:15 points in the last six weeks. so i think this is a big deal for president biden for pro democracy candidates who have to be democrats this fall. >> i agree with caitlin here. grace, i'm wondering. and this point galen made, that read made, i don't want to jump over it. because the president has said
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this a lot. we are in about right now in our world between economies versus democracies. and people will, the reason people forget to believe or are led to not believe in democracy is it's because they don't feel like it is working for them. so, how do you think that the winds have that the president have has over the last couple of weeks will shape democrats potentials in the midterms and, this point that the president has been making, do you think that people are going to start feeling that? . >> well it is consequential that president biden has passed so many of his priorities. it is remarkable that that's happening in a 50/50 senate. and crucially, it's giving democrats something to run on. and affirmative message, that is important in a midterm here in the national environment typically favors the party out of power and where voters typically want to penalize the presidents party. so having these concrete things to run on if they could translate them and get them across to voters is something that will definitely influence
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the environment. >> i have one more question for each of you, and jessica i am going to start with you. what is your prediction for the midterm? are the democrats taking back the house? yes or no? >> we're holding on to the house. look, i think that we came into the election with the doc very clear. we are seeing polling improve across the country. so, i think that there are big wins for the democrats. we are still very clear eyed across the country about what might happen. >> is this a yes, jessica? is this a? yes >> i think that we are on the right trajectory to hold the u.s. house, yes. >> all right, read, you will have the last word. >> i think it's tough. i think it is doable, i think it is more doable than it has been all year and maybe since the president took office. but we should not underestimate the fact that the republicans will say and do anything to hold seats. i think it is a much better chance now, but it is still a stuff climb. >> all right, grace fanatic, jessica post, and read galen.
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spotlight. the great jennifer lewis, actress, singer, icon, and the mother of black hollywood herself. just weeks ago, she was a star on the hollywood walk of fame. her credit range follower and wide for roles in dream girls, to fresh prince of bel air, and can cast away. that was scratching the surface of all she. does she's also a mom, an author, and an activist. but most important of all, she is an inspiration. i had the pleasure of speaking to her about her work, her life, and how she is responding to some difficult days in politics. as so many americans are seeing the right-wing stripped away. >> let's just get right to it, because i want to talk about your new book. at later this month, it is called walking in my joy in the streets. >> not just walking in your joy, mean to you? >> you know, it means to me, being all right with being all rights. you know, wisdom is a wonderful
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thing it. it is getting rid of the drama and toxicity in her life so that you are able to walk in your joy. that is very important to me because i think we are as sick as our secrets. and i don't keep any. to walk in my. joy and to confront the things that need to be confronted in a loving way. you will not be able to walk in your jewelry if you hold on to people who should have only been in your life for a season. we hold on too much. >> that is a word. miss louis, that is a word. do you feel like the pandemic helped you come to a number of these realizations? obviously you have lived an entire life. you talked about it in your last book, mother of black hollywood, but what do you
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think brought you to this moment? because that is a word right there that you just said. >> well as i said when i received my star on the hollywood walk of fame, i didn't have the to say i earned this. everybody in the world who knows my work, knows that i earned it. because i am incapable of giving 100 percent. i give 2000. because i love what i do, i love when i do. once again, the work ended offstage, off camera was the real work show businesses like brushing my teeth, baby. i am a natural, okay. but the work headed off stage, the therapy, coming to a point where i would take medication to level myself so that i could enjoy my success, you see. i went and took care of the whole person, so that the whole
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person would be all right, with being all right. >> you have written about your struggles. we just talked about some of them here. >> oh, there ain't no shame. there ain't no shame. >> of course, and i think that is so beautiful, because so many people are, you know we often say we don't know if you are walking around dealing with. and sometimes sharing your story is the thing that will help bring somebody back from the brink, and shut a little light on them. and i am really interested in your take on what is happening right now. you have shared your story before. you have written about your own sexuality says a child, and now we live in a country where, republicans are running on making ten year olds have babies by the rapists. what are you feeling about this moment? >> simone, let me tell. you when i am feeling is that, they have put a fire under women. if these people think that we are going to go back, they are
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wrong. all they have done is united to us more. and i am going to see to it that we stay united. you see, honey, i have a purpose now. >> if you had a clear a call right now to everybody watching the show, what would it be? >> it would be to stand up. have the courage and the strength to do your best. it is like john f. kennedy said, ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. and understand, when you are doing that work, you are doing it for your children. you are honoring the ancestors who, need i say, needed to talk about the middle passage, needed to talk about the underground railroad, needed talk about how they are still hanging out people? how the non lynching largest went through, just went
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through. let me tell you something, honey, we will stand in this. we will stand in this, and we will win. because i know there is more good in this world then there is bad. i believe in humankind. i believe in us. but i got one message. , i don't care who you are where you work ♪ ♪ ♪ get out and vote. ♪ ♪ ♪ this ap election this at home and lurk. get out and vote. get out and vote. ♪ ♪ ♪ get out and vote. ♪ ♪ ♪ see, you send.
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me >> that's right. yes. >> i want to say before. we go >> miss louis, i love. you thank you. >> thank, you but i will say before we go, how proud we are of you young lady. congratulations to you, and carry on. >> thank you so much. miss jennifer lewis, ladies and gentlemen, the mother of black hollywood. a songstress, an i can, we thank you. >> and thank you, for watching symone on the saturday. i am symone sanders townsend, and you can catch me right here on msnbc every saturday and sunday at 4 pm eastern, and on peacock grammy opposites on the msnbc hub every monday and tuesday. and having up on social media, you can find highlights, news, and exciting things in the works for the show on instagram, twitter, and the tiktok. politics nation with reverend al sharp picks up things, right after a short break. up things, righ after a short break. after a short break. o brainstorm.
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that wrote prop 27. it doesn't tell you 90% of the profits go to the out of state corporations. a tiny share goes to the homeless, and even less to tribes. and a big loophole says, costs to promote betting reduce money for the tribes, so they get less. hidden agendas. fine print. loopholes. prop 27. they didn't write it for the tribes or the homeless. good evening, and welcome to they wrote it for themselves. politicsnation. two nights lead, trump confidential. right now, we are still sitting through the rubble of a political earthquake. one day after documents related to the fbi search on donald trum
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