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accusing biden of doing. >> i have said, i am going to stay away from the justice department until it's completed. that doesn't mean i have to. because i don't have to. i can get involved. i'm allowed to be totally involved. i'm actually, i guess, the chief law enforcement officer of the country. >> i said i will stay out of it. i wish i didn't make that statement. there is no reason, really, why i have to. would happen to durham? where is durham? bill barr can go down as the greatest attorney general in the history of our country. or he can go down as just an average guy. it depends on what is going to happen. so, christopher wray was put there. we have an election coming up. i wish she was more forthcoming. he certainly has not been. >> the attorney general said, i'm going to recuse my self. why the hell didn't he call me that before i put him in? 33,000 emails! we now have a great attorney general, let's see what happens. our justice department, which i
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try and stay away from, but at some point, i won't -- >> coming up, on the second hour of ayman, democrats historic artist. i will speak with congresswoman barbara lee about the big wins the biden administration is knocking up, and how to turn those winds into electoral victories. plus, merrick garland finally takes action against donald trump and republican lies about the fbi search on mar-a-lago are fueling concerns of political violence. i am charles blow in for ayman mohyeldin, let's get started. ♪ ♪ ♪ it's hard to overstate the massive, historic month the biden administration has had. the sheer number of legislative and foreign policy victories in such a short span of time is historic. this week, democrats
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successfully passed the inflation reduction act, which will provide 430 billion dollars for fighting climate change, lowering prescription drug prices, and reforming the tax code to ensure corporations pay what they owe. once biden signs the ira it's a law, he will have overseen 3.5 trillion dollars of his legislative agenda since taking office. that has just everything from covid-19 and [inaudible] economic fallout, to appear highways, bridges, and roads, ensuring broadband, ensuring health insurance protections, and so much more. another part of that agenda the president just signed, a bill to expand the micro chip manufacturing industry in the u.s.. and that is it 280 billion dollar investment. and another -- a bill to provide care and resources to 3.5 million veterans exposed to toxic burn
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pits. also, last week, biden scored a major foreign policy victory, when a u.s. conducted drone strike killed an al-qaeda leader. and biden's big wins didn't start in august. if you were turned in a report feeling wet i did last summer, it would include the single greatest expansion of gun control protections in america in decades, which passed congress in june. that included enhanced background checks for gun buyers under 21, a new federal grant program encouraging states to adopt red flag laws, and a federal statute banning gun trafficking. and the president did all of this with razor thin margins in both the house and the senate. now, with all these successes under their belt, the question is, of course, turning to how biden and the democrats can -- or if they will -- sell them to the american
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people. joining me now is democratic congresswoman barbara lee of california. congresswoman lee, what will the inflation reduction act mean for your constituents? >> it's nice to be with you, charles, and thank you for laying out the enormous and excellent work that the biden administration has put forth with, of course, primarily our democratic congress, under speaker pelosi's leadership. and remember, this has been, in the midst of a covid pandemic, everything you laid out and more has been done. right now, with his inflation reduction act, we are going to see, first of all, senior citizens, who pay enormous sums of money for their prescriptions, will now have a cap of no more than $2,000 a year. this is certainly life affirming and will really help our senior citizens. secondly, we finally, finally have a 35-dollar cap on
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insulin. but that's only for medicare recipients, which is a good thing. it is a first start. and i'm really pleased that we were able to get that in. but we have got to make sure that people who have private insurance now have access to insulin, lifesaving drugs, that is very expensive. but we want them to be able to have a cap of $35 also. in addition to that, when you look at the enormous investments in climate initiatives -- solar, wind, the millions of good paying jobs that the climate provisions are going to create, it is extraordinary. and a lot of these jobs are going to go to underserved communities, black and brown communities who have been shut out from so much of our climate initiatives. of our climatthis is really a o celebrate. but it is also a moment to say, we still have a heck of a lot more to do, charles. >> so the house and senate democratic leadership teams are under operating under such
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tight margins in terms of the size of their majorities. what does it say about the democratic leadership that they were able to get this done? >> well, our leadership has been extraordinary. and they, from day one, want to work, and our part of the leadership team, to work in a bipartisan fashion with our republican colleagues. and so we start from there. because we know that putting people over politics is what is going to deliver for the american people. but when you look at what has taken place, without leadership trying to negotiate, with the thin margins, it's really a very dicey -- all of these negotiations, i say, are very dicey -- but we always push through. and i, for one, think we need to get rid of the filibuster. because this is a policy that is a policy that is outdated. it's usefulness, if it ever did, it was developed, as a result of jim crow.
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so, we need to get rid of the filibuster, to make sure we have at least two more senators to make our agenda move forward. and so, it says a lot about our leadership to just list the bills that you have laid out, in terms of what president biden has signed into law. that's active lot. and i think the public understand that the democrats have been fighting for them. we are putting people over politics and they're going to show up at the voting box like a haven't before. >> let's and the public for a little bit. how do you think democrats all these victories to the american people, especially when they can get consumed or put on back burners, on things like the fbi searching a former presidents house? >> well, first of all, people are suffering from inflation. and so people care about kitchen table issues, really. and i think when you see what is taking place in terms of the cost of gasoline going down, the cost of living is going down, what we have done with
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the inflation reduction act to make sure that the health care subsidies continue, that people don't have their health care costs raised, i think people will see right away that democrats are working for them. and with the important issues are. and we have vote to protect our democracy. i think people really want to preserve our democracy. they know how fragile it is. and so the american people are smart people. they know that we have to do everything to preserve our democracy. but they also know that part of preserving our democracy is delivering for every day working families, for people of color, for low income people, for poor people, for people who have been just shut out, historically, of the benefits of this american system. >> let's see on the kitchen table issues you are talking about with americans. i do think you are right, that that is what people feel the most acutely. but many of the aspects of the undoubted victories that democrats have had our policies that won't go into effect right away. some of them won't go into
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effect for years. how do you sell that to the american people? that these are things that will help you and your family eventually, down the road. they have to be done and we got them done. but you may not feel them right away. >> well, charles, that is an issue. and sometimes it presents a dilemma. but i tell you one thing -- some of the provisions will be felt immediately, in terms of the inflation reduction act. because we are transitioning out to a green economy. and these jobs that are going to be created are not going to be into a three years. these companies are going to get tax incentives. peoples homes are going to be retrofitted. and people will begin to see the benefits, very soon. but long term, yes, it is a difficult argument to make, when people are suffering today. but i tell you one thing, senior citizens will see very soon that their cap on prescription drugs will be at
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$2,000. and on the infrastructure bill, for example, that we passed, jobs are being created as we speak. the money is going out to our communities. people are applying for grants. we are looking at training people for these infrastructure jobs. so, these jobs are moving. nothing in a democracy -- sometimes the wheels of democracy are slow. but it works. and we are pushing as hard as we can, because this is our government. this is the system of government and we are working hard to streamline all of these initiatives, so that the benefits can be felt as quickly as possible. the american people deserve that. >> yes. i don't want to harp on this. but i do want to stay on this for just a little bit longer, about how hard it is to change a feeling. people just got used to feeling like things were getting bad, and the screws were tightening around them, and all sorts of things, inflation, gas prices and what have you. but even some of the things that you are just describing, people starting to retrofit
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homes, even those things take months. and the elections, the midterms anyway, are just a few months away. and in the meantime, a lot of parents are sending kids back to school, they've got to rush out and buy school supplies and school clothes. and whatever little relief they were getting from inflation, looking like it was taking down a bit, they are going to be spending a lot more cash. how do you get over that feeling -- intellectually, i understand what you are saying. and it makes complete sense. intellectually, on paper, this makes sense, that jobs are being created right now, not all of them right now, but some of them now. and some will continue to be made. and there are some things that will go into effect that will prevent you from having higher prices, particularly on the medical front. but how do we adjust the feeling that people have had all summer, where they just felt like they were stuck? >> charles, it's very difficult.
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first of all, my background in psychology, and i am clinical social worker by profession, so understand the feelings. that is very important, emotions. and what our feelings really present, in terms of our daily lives. and i think it is up to elected officials, it is up to community groups, to relate to that. i know how people in my district feel. but i am certainly clear that they want to see me fighting for them and helping in every which way, to make sure that they are safe, that they economic security is intact. and each and every day we are working on that. and i think that's part of what people want to see, someone fighting for them. and helping to raise money. we can go outside of the box, which we do a lot as members of congress, and just help our organizations, help other people. i know i do that in my district constantly. so, the feeling is real and we have to acknowledge at the feeling is real. but also, we have to acknowledge that history has shown us that we will get
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through this. and we are fighting to get through it. and remember, we are still in the midst of a covid pandemic we are hopefully coming out of it. but we've save lives and livelihoods. and people are still rebounding from this terrible, horrific pandemic, charles. so yes, it's a feeling thing. it's an emotional moment for people. but we all have to pull together and work together. and help people overcome that and do the practical work of helping with the resources. >> congresswoman barbara lee, always a pleasure to speak with you. thank you so much for joining me tonight. up next, merrick garland calls trump's bluff. but first, richard louis is here with the headlines. hi, richard. >> good to see you, charles. a car ramming into a crowd of people at an event as we were watching close, to the area of philadelphia. very specifically, it ran into an event there in the philadelphia area, injuring multiple people. it happened at a memorial fund-raiser for five victims
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from the northwest of philadelphia. it is still unclear if anyone is in custody for that act. so, waiting for more details, exactly on the number as well as the extent of the injuries they are. also today for you, president biden has condemned the attack on acclaimed novelist salman rushdie. the president called the stabbing vicious and called rushdie a person who stands for essential, universal ideals. the man accused of attacking rushdie which charged with murder and assault. he entered a not guilty plea. he's currently being held without bail in a new york congressional facility. investigators say the suspect stabbed rushdie approximately 12 times just before he was about to give a lecture in new york friday. rushdie remains in critical condition. it is still unclear what motivated that attack. more ayman right after the short break. short break.
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are a number of things that are classified, that fall under the umbrella of nuclear weapons, but it that are not necessarily things that are truly classified. and many of them, you can find on your own phone, as we stand here. and if they fall within that category, they are not an imminent national security threat. >> and look at the premise of most of your questions. was it nuclear? was it -- heck, maybe it was aliens. that's the point. we don't know. >> trump's defense squad has
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been out in full force, actually downplaying reports that nuclear information could be in those classified documents retrieved from his home. but i am old enough to remember when the same republicans had a lot to say about a certain former secretary of state's handling of classified information material that never involved nukes. let's bring in my saturday night panel. mara gay he's a member of the new york times editorial board an msnbc political contributor. david corn is a washington bureau chief for mother jones and msnbc political contributor. and author of a fork coming book, american psycho, uses a historical investigation of how the republican party went crazy. also with us is jill wine-banks, former assistant watergate special prosecutor, co-host of the sisters in law podcast.
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and msnbc legal analyst. mara, what do you make of what you just heard? this republican defense of donald trump that seems to be expensive within the party? >> obviously, it's extremely disturbing. it is not serious. and we knew it was coming. i think what is important is that those of us who are not tethered to the trump universe and are instead deeply rooted in reality really hold on to what's the bigger story actually is here, which is that the former president of the united states held on to material that belonged to the american people for over a year, it seems -- a year and a half, i believe. and he knew that he was not supposed to have it. he knew it violated laws to continue to hold on to it. it appears today, from our
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reporting in the new york times, that his lawyer said that they had given everything over. and apparently, they had not. so, all of this is to say that we have a lot of questions for donald trump, including criminal liability. questions of criminal liability. and so that is not a good story for the former president. and his goon squad, so to speak, is out there, trying to spin this any which way, which just shows you how tethered to donald trump the republican party still is. it is very important that we actually really don't allow the american people to be gaslit and we keep our eye and what the real story is here. >> david, earlier today, house intelligence committee chair adam schiff and house oversight committee chair carolyn maloney requested a damage assessment of the classified documents involved in the investigation. this marks the first major
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oversight step since by the house since monday's search. how can the democrats or how should the democrats approach this issue? >> i think that is a good first step. a lot of this might actually be classified and not actually be available to the american public. if some of these documents have been described as some of the most highly classified, highly secretive documents that exist in the u.s. government -- if that is indeed the case, you and i are unlikely to find out a lot of the details about them that we would like to know. so maybe, it hard at the end of the day to assess just how much of an affront or an attack or how much of a crime, if it gets that far, this was, in terms of mismanaging, mishandling these documents. i do think, though, that even donald trump deserves the presumption, if not of innocence, at least one of patients. and we see in the environment we live in these days, in the media environment, that
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republicans in particular jump out and start saying things that are not true. barack obama took documents, many more documents, and there are worse. no, that didn't happen. did he declassify those documents? that probably didn't happen either. it's become a very breathless parade of non stories, of false stories out. there i think myrick merrick garland has been very deliberative at his press conference that we can. i think how the congress is handling it is wonderful. we should see how this pans out, even though it doesn't look good for trump from the get-go. >> so let's just [inaudible] the department of justice. ag garland has been cautious with dealing with the former president, not wanting to appear partisan. but isn't there a difference between being a nonpartisan and a political? isn't this, by its very nature, a political investigation? because it involves the president and, in fact, the justice department has this policy that says you can't, you
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shouldn't charge a sitting president, which automatically puts the law in second position to the political position -- isn't this inherently a political issue? is i>> charles, you have raiseda lot of really good issues. let me just say that since the time of watergate, i have believed that even a sitting president could be subject to indictment. there is nothing that i can find in the constitution or in any of our laws that puts the president above the law. so, i think that he could be. and in any event, this is a former president. so, he is clearly subject to the same laws that you and i and everybody listening to this is subject to. and so he shouldn't be subjected to it. there are times -- the department also has a policy that you should not interfere with an election. so in the days right before an
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election, if you have been holding off on doing something, like an indictment, you don't do it in the days before the election. but this is years before the election that he might be running it. so, there is no reason to hold off on taking action if the facts weren't it. and we don't know all the facts. what we have seen publicly by looking at just the inventory that came with the unsealing of the search warrant shows that he had the most classified information that anybody could have. it included top secret, sensitive compartmented information. that gets a classification like that only if it is something that poses a grave threat to our democracy. so, when you are playing clips of people saying, well, it could be classified and really not be anything important -- no, it can't be. once it is classified like that, it is for a reason.
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and that means he endangered our country by taking it. but it is also true that even if it wasn't classified, just removing documents that belong to the american people is a crime. the presidential records act was passed as a result of watergate, as a result of nixon trying to take documents that he was going to sell for profit. they became illegal. it became clear that it was part of the government's property. and that it belonged to the government. it stays with the archives, it does not go with the former president. it can go to a presidents library under certain arrangements. but it cannot go to his house. and particularly, where it's classified, and was kept in an unlocked storage area, where anybody who is walking through the club could be a guest, could be a member, could have had access to it, they now are looking at the camera footage to see who did access. and hopefully, that footage
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goes back far enough -- more than a year and a half, the documents have been there. they should have never been removed. and it is also clear that the intent and knowledge has been established now. >> right. >> donald trump was told by many of the officials who came to visit, in the negotiations, to get this stuff back last january. some of which was removed in february, and again in june. so, they knew the documents were there. they were obliged to go look for everything. his lawyer signing a document saying that there are no more documents here is very serious, a very bad breach of ethics for the lawyer, either having been nick's lead -- now, not having seen that document, maybe it says on information of my client, i am saying that my client tells me, in which case, then it's the client fault. then the client misled. not the lawyers fault. >> panel please, stick around. ahead, federal law enforcement
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weaponization of federal agencies against the regime's political opponents. as we saw in january 6th, the words of supporters can't turn into real action and real danger. here's attorney general garland pushing back on those attacks this week. >> i will not stand by silently, when their integrity is unfairly attacked. the men and women of the fbi and the justice department are dedicated, patriotic public servants. >> let's bring back our saturday night panel. mara, nbc's been collins says the posts on these forums are the most violent he seen since january 6th. what's your reaction to that? >> it is very scary. i mean, we have a confluence of events here, in which we've already seen, you know, online violence turn into rely violence. and it really didn't actually begin with a january 6th,
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though that is the most high-profile example of it. the anniversary of charlottesville was just the other day as well. and there has been a steady uptick and increase particularly in right-wing violence. and it's not entirely right wing violence, but that is the bulk of it. and we know that from homeland security reports. so, you know, you have that going on, you also, at the same time, have the dehumanization of americans and others that's been perpetuated by the far-right on forums like that. and then, you have, of course, republican officials initially led by trump, and now, it's a much broader movement, who are egging that on, because, you know, that's the self interest they feel. so, the situation is extremely dangerous, and it's not just fbi agents who are at risk, or our institutions, but it's
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every day americans who find themselves, unfortunately, in the crosshairs, simply because they are not part of trumpism, nor part of what those who follow trumpism see as fully american. and that includes transgender americans, sometimes, jewish americans. obviously, black americans, liberals, gays, we can just go down the list. i mean, there are a lot of groups of people right now, of americans, who have good reason to be concerned. that doesn't mean you should leave your house and be afraid. that means we need to know, as the public, what is being done to combat the and investigate extremism. >> david, let's talk about one of those jewish americans, the judge who signed off the search has faced death threats and antisemitic abuse from trump supporters. the synagogue that he attends even had to cancel its saturday sabbath service last night. what is your reaction to that?
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>> well, my reaction is where is the reaction from donald trump and the republican party. it is his people doing this. he has not called off the dogs, and he probably likes this to some extent. i mean, i get, every single day, a dozen to several dozen fundraising emails from donald trump, and various republican political entities, the rnc, they're publican senatorial campaign committee, the republican national campaign committee, and others. they always say, mostly the same thing, that the country is being destroyed by evil democrats, liberals, and others. and they are creating this frenzy amongst republican base that if they don't do something drastic that the liberals and the democrats are gonna send antifa into their neighborhoods to destroy them. and this is a liberal. i'm not making this up. and so, we see in polling data that anywhere from five to 10% of american adults believe that
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it would be justifiable to use violence to return trump to office. so there is this very strong current out there, and we saw it in cincinnati, right after the raid in fbi, where a fellow hit his fbi office, and had, the gunman was shot and killed. this was not going away, and we don't see anybody in a position of responsibility or leadership in the republican party addressing this. in fact, donald trump, as we saw on january 6th, as the committee showed us, when he did nothing, they want this. they want this extremism. they want to encourage it and exploit it and they want it to be there between now in the midterms, and they want it to be there in 2024. and it's the rest of us who have to figure out a way to keep the country from blowing up over this. >> yeah, it's frightening and worrisome indeed. jill, fox host brian kilmeade is facing backlash for airing a fabricated image of the judge, with convicted sex offender
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ghislaine maxwell. kilmeade later offered a non apology and called it a joke. how irresponsible is that? >> it's extremely irresponsible. and i remain hopeful that some of the lawsuits pending against the right-wing media, dominion, and sparked magic, for example, may make them think twice the verdict against alex jones is huge. maybe that will make them think twice when they issued false statements. and putting a factored picture of them is certainly in that category but, and particularly, where you have a judge who has already received death threats. i'm friends with a neighbor of his. i worry for her safety, as well as his, because there will be mobs at his house because of the repeated incitement that is coming from the republicans.
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and at some point, if the law doesn't cover that, but new laws are necessary, that need to make sure that incitement of this kind of action is a criminal penalty, because as you pointed out already, we have one dead person, because he acted in the same way that, if you go back to the pizza party that was supposedly having a pedophile being run by hillary clinton, which is total nonsense. someone actually came in their armed, and could've done serious damage. so, we have to have laws that prevent this. >> panel, please stick around, for even more. after the break, democrats luck might be turning around, just in time for the midterm elections. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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following midterm elections. it happened to trump in 2018, and obama in 2010. in 2022, it might be different for president biden. there is a small but growing number of indicators that democrats might not lose as much as originally predicted, and may not lose at all. this week, democrats have passed the generic ballot average, which pits a generic democrat against a generic republican for the first time since this november of 2021. also, this week, in a special minnesota congressional election, republicans won by a smaller margin than expected, especially for a midterm here. the republicans won by just four percentage, for a district that trump had won by ten points in 2020 election. and of course, this comes after record turnout in kansas. last week, it led to the upholding of the states constitutional right to abortion, the first statewide election on the issue since roe
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was overturned. so, as gas prices paul, the president racks up legislative wins, and we begin to see these electoral data points coming into focus. the question is, does this indicate a change in democrats fortunes for 2022? my saturday night panel is back. mara what, do you make of these data points? are they harbinger's for a brighter future, a brighter midterm for democrats? >> i think what it represents is an opportunity for democrats. let's not forget that who controls the house is actually going to be contingent on a number of a much smaller number of races across the country. and so, you know, the parties will call those, frontline members. so, those frontline democrats, democratic candidates, are hoping to win, often in swing states, right? their races are going to hinge not just on all the factors
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that you just described, but also, on how well their campaigns are run, how well funded they are, and who turns up, and shows up to vote? so, of course, democrats now have an opportunity. they have a window in which to really make their case to the american people, and really, fight that out. you know, in a race by race battle. this is a get up and vote effort. but nothing is guaranteed for either party. and i think anything can change, of course, between now and november as well. >> david, democrats have done a big win, now that the inflation reduction act has passed, but we won't see or feel the impact of parts of that bill for years. i spoke to democratic congresswoman barbara lee earlier about this. take a listen to what she said. and i want to get your take on it. >> sometimes, it presents a dilemma. but i will tell you one thing. some of the provisions will be
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felt immediately, in terms of the inflation reduction act. sometimes, the wheels of democracy are slow, but it works. and we are pushing this as hard as we can because this is our government. this is the system of government, and we're working hard to streamline all of these initiatives, so that the benefits can be felt as quickly as possible. the american people deserve that. >> david, do you agree with congresswoman's opinion on that? >> well, i think it may be hard to get some of the benefits of this bill to the people very quickly in the next couple of months. you know, they're still gonna be paying attention to what prices are at the gas station, or in the supermarket stores, right? so those will have a predominant effect on people, thinking about the economy. i mean, often barbara's point, there are about 26 or so, you know, toss-up races for the house. i think 18 our democratic -leaning seats, and eight are
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republican-leaning seats. so, really, what counts in this very gerrymandered system is what happens in those districts. and whether the dobbs decision, and you know, using abortion as an issue, which played well in kansas, could have an impact there. -- [inaudible] what's happening in january 6th out of the hearings that the committee has put on, and what's happening to donald trump, all these are factors that give the democrats something to talk about now. that they didn't really have a couple of months ago. and if there can be a meta message that's delivered by joe biden, well, on what he's doing, and more importantly weather public its are doing to stop him, and progress for america, and impose restrictions on women. and you can tie that to the grassroots effort in these, two dozen, three dozen races. and the democrats have a chance. you know, you can sort of thread the needle, but they will have a chance. >> jill, the trump legal chaos
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isn't going away anytime soon. what's affected you think that will have on the midterms? >> i think that like all these other issues, it will have an impact. i think even republicans, even trump supporters, when they realize that we are talking espionage, and actually, i, mean espionage may carry a harsher sound then the law really is. it's really an official secrets act, because it's really dealing with a defence information. but i think even his most strong supporters are gonna go, well, we don't want a president who's gonna share information that could endanger our national security. so i think some of those, and we've seen the impact of what happened with dobbs, i heard on twitter, i see it all around me, the people are really willing now to go out more, to be involved in this, men and women, because of the rights that are being taken away by a very conservative supreme court,
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because of a movement toward doing something about the supreme court, whether it's enlarging it, limiting its jurisdictions to certain types of cases, or at least, getting rid of the filibuster so the laws can be passed that would protect people in voting. i think people are seeing a real difference between democrats and republicans. and you started the show in a wonderful way by saying, look at what's happened, what the democrats and joe biden have accomplished, just in the last few weeks. it is an amazing series of accomplishments, really important legislation. so, i think that that is going to have an impact, and that democrats are very motivated to get out there and make sure that we don't lose in a big way because of the historic numbers every mature. >> joe, thank you so much for explaining and deflating the espionage charge here. but i still like to say,
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espionage, something like you said. so, david, final question to you, we see gas prices falling, big july jobs numbers and legislative wins for the democrats. but, it can be hard to change peoples minds about how they feel things are going. what is the best case to make to people who may not feel the change right away, and how to contextualize that and get democrats to win, and get their voters out to the polls? >> i think there has to be a positive and a negative message. i think the positive message is, you know, selling what's been done, and trying to explain how it will help, expanding the aca, lowering prescription drugs, costs that may not happen in the next few weeks, but people understand what it means to their pocketbook to have these lower drug costs, hit sometime in the next year. then, the negative side is pointing out, hey, we could do more, if we voted for republicans. look at when they get on the
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vote on insulin. $35, $35 a month for insulin, they said no to that. they said no to, you know, paid work leave for a parent. so depending on what is happening as well is important for the democrats too. >> you also said notes to protecting rights, but i'll leave that for another day. mara gay, david corn, and jill wine-banks, thank you all for joining me tonight. next, celebrating the icon, serena williams. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ as someone with hearing loss i know what a confusing and frustrating experience getting hearing aids can be. that's why i founded lively.
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breaking news on the fallout from the fbi search at mar-a-lago. just a short time ago, chairs of the house oversight and intelligence committees requested a damage assessment from the director of national intelligence, the documents seized from trump's florida home. in the three-page letter, the chair's request a, quote, classified briefing on the conduct of the damage assessment but soon as possible. nbc news reports they were covered records were

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