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and his latest political stunt. jasmine crockett joins me from later -- legal trouble over its rendition of hamilton. we have a reporter who broke a story. all of that and more, is coming up. -- let's go straight to msnbc's garrett grumble, who is tracking the news details for us. gary good morning. >> good morning katie, three big developments, rising overnight on this big story. new york times is reporting an nbc news, is for one lawyer
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signed, back in june, saying all classified material, have been returned to the government. according to four people familiar with the matter. that's a big deal because they can speak to one of the possible crime is being investigated usc which is 15 19 -- or an administration of any matter. or a jurisdiction of any agency. that is one big part of the story. the second really is congress, and the heads of the intelligence, the hostages and house oversight committee sending a letter to daniel haynes. basically asking who saw these documents? how much risk was our national security and we have that
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portion, and i thought it is nbc news brewery the weight of a president trump than classified documents have on how, we reported he would read something, a tweet, or bipolar go -- taped back together and keep events of they've been purposes he was down with a piece of paper he's the pin dot on the ground. it's his way of saying he's done -- should've should not have been ripped up, he just threw it away. katie? >> gary graham bock, thanks for your reporting thank that he's ripping up thank you. i'm always stunned when i heard that he ripped those pieces to
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-- will be here to talk about those new developments for the new york times. plus eight former pence aide's story, about finding classified documents, and a white house bathroom, consistent with what we heard from gary graham block this morning. breaking this morning overseas, a gunman opening fire on a bus, near jerusalem's old city. eight people were wounded, two are in serious condition, including a pregnant woman in her 30s, with an abdominal injury. in a tweet, united states ambassador -- confirmed americans were injured in the attack, and says he has spoken with the families. new york eternally gianna letitia james, also tweeting about the accident the suspected attacker has turned itself into the police, we will continue to follow the story as we get more information, now the pennsylvania. we'll refer seem for that
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yesterday, where men planned to crowd out a fund housing, is -- the suspect drove off to a nerve -- may bring borough. authorities are investigating one of the suspects intentionally drove into the crowd -- for more on all of this, we turn to nbc news correspondent, george solis in pennsylvania. >> morning. jaime what is left of this horrific scene, that played out. all this set up to help a community heal, now the scene of a nova tragedy. two deaths, 17 others injured this morning, we are getting a look at a person, police say is responsible, he is now in constant -- custody. identify some identified him as adrian reyes. he's being held without bail.
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he drove his car into this restaurant, who were holding a fund-raiser, to help benefit the families of a neighboring town dealing with their own tragedy. ten people lost in a house fire. that fire? occurring just nine days ago. the crash to, -- who would induce -- some are able to go home and now here is where the story takes a strange twist. authorities say after this scene they responded to a call, of a woman being assaulted by the same suspect. they responded to that scene, when they got there, they fortunately, unfortunately found a woman who has been killed. but was not able to detain at the suspect. at this point, there's no motive. communities already dealing with so much tragedy, and it has been left reeling.
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many are wondering, why such a thing would happen. katie? >> thanks to george. not to the latest on that frightening attack on author salman rushdie, who is recovering in the hospital this morning. prosecutors say rushdie was stabbed about ten times, as he got ready to speak to a crowd in new york on friday. the 24-year-old man who was arrested at the scene at the attack, has pleaded not guilty. for more on all of this, we turn to cbsn news correspondent. >> his agent confirming to the associated press, the 75-year-old is off the ventilator and talking despite roughly a dozen stab wounds according to the county district attorney's office, those wounds range across his body, including his neck chest stomach. da says he could maybe loosen. i he was attacked by 25 year old, who is arraigned in court
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for attempted murder and assault charges. they called the stabbing at the lecture series, a preplanned and unprovoked attack. he says the suspect has tribe or -- traveled to the county by bus, falsified papers on him, and bought a ticket ahead of time, in order to get entry to the offense. officers tell nbc news, that leading theory in the case right now is that the suspect acted alone inspired by iran -related extremism. the background of all of this, he's faced decades of threats, over his work regarding extremists. especially as 1988 novel, satanic versus. some muslims considered blasphemous. prompted the supreme leader of iran to call for his killing, more than 30 years ago. on the ground in iran today a lot of reactions no word of the
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action but if you look at the news, many of them are pressing the attack. we do know that the fbi is also assisting in this investigation. back to you. >> emily acadia, thank you. up next hour panels here. on whether the latest new york times reporting, could mean more legal trouble for donald trump. later this hour, it's abbott versus adams, the texas governor facing off with new york city's mayor after busing migrants to the big apple. we will get into the latest political stunt, with jasmine crockett. is likely already inside of you. 50 years or older? ask your doctor about shingles. open. it's a beautiful word. neighborhoods "open". businesses "open". fields "open". who doesn't love "open"?
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back now to the fbi search of trump's home in mar-a-lago and the classified documents that they found their. let's take a quick look at the latest developments over the last 24 hours. the new york times reports that at least one lawyer for trump signed a declaration in june, asserting that all documents
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are just classified and kept at mar-a-lago, they had all been returned to the government. that's according for people with knowledge of the document. trump had claimed that he had the caucus fight all materials at mar-a-lago. nbc news has not confirmed that report. the other developments on capitol hill where the heads of two house committees oversight and intelligence sent a letter to the national director of intelligence for a damage assessment of what was found at mar-a-lago. welcome to my panel of experts this morning to dig further into this massive story. joy nance is a -- and former counterintelligence agents. the congressional reporter for the guardian. my master class of knowledge on this panel. joy, let me start with you, please. let's talk about the new york times reporting that in june a trump lawyer signed a declaration representing that all classified material had been returned to the federal government.
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had how did this latest development effect if trump was violating the statute for the basis of the search warrant? >> so this would be really important if this information came out, the next thing they government would want to figure out is who was involved? who knew. was this the lawyer freelancing, was this information provided by trump, how directly was he involved? if a representation was made after that initial turnover. he had sort of one freebie here, the doj comes down and says they would like their documents, have you turn them over? certified this is everything? at that point you have crossed the route. if you're still holding on to classified material, the seriousness of the offense is much greater. this becomes a point at which everyone is thinking more seriously about criminal consequences, not just about getting the document out. >> yeah but peter, if trump was claiming that all documents
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have been declassified by him what is the ultimate import of this declaration by a trump lawyer? does it carry weight in terms of trump's culpability? >> sure, i think it does, katie. a couple of reasons, one because of have to try to find. if he doesn't talk about classified information, it talks about information about the importance of national defense. the other thing is that there is the important of whether he declassified them, which i highly doubt. -- regardless, they are presidential records. whether they are classified, quasi-declassified, or not. at the end of the day, these records and materials belong to the american people. these represent things that should have been turned over to the national archives. these represent things that, a, should have been taken on january 20th, be, shouldn't have been kept in the national archives came looking for them, see, should have been given
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when the national archives watery with 15 boxes of material earlier this year. they should have been the things that were not maintain after the attorney, a member of the bar attached to the fact that there was nothing like that left at mar-a-lago. >> i want to play a clip of a former mike pence aid, olivia troye, on deadline white house friday talking about her experience in the trump white house. take a listen. >> i will tell you, i found classified information in the ladies'room of the white house one and -- i immediately walked it right up to security and said, i just found this in the bathroom, i covered it up, put in a folder, it wasn't marked properly, the folder wasn't -- i was not expecting to walking the ladies'room and find a documents like that. >> you know, hugo, i am rarely rendered speechless as anybody who knows me well. earlier in the show carrie -- was talking about how trump regularly through pieces of paper on the floor, rips them
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up, put them in the garbage, the toilet. i mean, the national archives literally had to put things back together. what are you recovering in your reporting from the guardian about what seems to be a very clear pattern of trump mishandling documents? declassified, or otherwise. >> i mean, this was obviously a feature that trump -- for several years. i mean trump was ripping up documents in improperly handling presidential records. i think all of this became worse after the december, 2020, when he lost his final white house staff secretary. the staff secretary supposed to be there to be the lead for record management in the west wing and when that line left, it was very much a free-for-all according to my sources. there wasn't really a deputy white house director to step in and fill that role. a lot of it was just west wing
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aides keeping records that they found delivered about. it was very much a disorganized process all the way through until trump left the white house. i think this was very much a feature of the trump presidency that continues right down until the last minute of the administration. >> joyce, it seems like at this point trump's inner circle is shrinking, understandably so. it's pretty small now. many people including former white house chief of staff mick mulvaney believed that investigators must have had an informant to know what they now. everyone, including us, wants to see the affidavit in support of the search warrant if there is an in fact a search warrant in his inner circle, joyce, does not affect the validity of that search warrant? >> well the search warrant was reviewed by a federal judge, who evaluated the affidavit against the charges that the doj was bringing and determined that there was probable cause to execute the search warrant. pete made a really important
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point earlier than i want to underline. when the doj selected the charges that it was investigating, it was careful to defect charges that -- charges that didn't hinge on whether the information was declassified, there are mishandling a defense information, presidential records, and most industry treating, late obstruction of justice which would include destroying records pertinent to an ongoing federal investigation. by the time federal judge is looking at the search warrant affidavit, he understands the context for the investigation. he understands what it is about. this is very distinct from earlier cases, where they were prosecutions andra separate statute, 1924, limited to mishandling of classified information. these are much more serious charges, the probable cause would have been much more serious, and i think you're right, katie, to suspect that there was at least one confidential source involved in
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putting together the search warrant affidavit. this affidavit would've had its life spent inside one -- of the justice department. i think there was a very recent eyes on the problem where doj investigators were clear on what sorts of information they would find and where they would find it when they put this affidavit together. >> peter, quickly before i have to go to the break but the panel stays, i'll talk about the dangerous rhetoric since the search happened. according to multiple reports armed trump protesters outside of the -- the magistrate charge and agents connect this case. we saw that violence erupted the cincinnati fbi office earlier in the week. what is the impact of these threats on the people, the people on the ground. the boots on the ground that are investigating this case. >> well katie i don't think you can underestimate the impact. it's one thing for the fbi
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investigators to come in and focus on the task at hand in the face of the squirrel of immediate tension and rhetoric. it's an entirely different matter when you start worrying about people who were armed, people who might be watching you go to work, leave from work, figuring out where you live, that's an entirely different kind of atmosphere. it absolutely pour barriers on your state of mind. the fatigue, constant vigilance that you now have to increase when you bring to the drop in day in and day out. >> my panel, gratefully, is going to stick around. there's plenty more to talk about including how trump document investigation compares to other pie profile cases. that's relating to highly classified documents, joy sat on that briefly, texas churches and condemned for its anti-lgbtq take on hamilton. what's the plays creator, lin-manuel miranda, has to say about it. about it fabric softener! wrinkle guard penetrates deep into fibers, leaving clothes so soft,
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mar-a-lago. let's take a moment to step back and look at how this case could compared to other cases related to classified documents. there has been nearly a dozen such cases since 2005, they include retired u.s. army general david petraeus and former security advisor sandy burger. neither of those men got any tale jail time in their cases. one key question in this case will be intent. the fbi identified hillary clinton's actions and her email scandal as careless, so she wasn't charged. however former nsa contractor reality winner was sentenced to prison time because the justice department says that she intentionally leaked the document to a news outlet. let's bring back my expert panel, toys vance, peter strzok, and he hugo loyal. -- sorry hugo. where will the intent come into play and where this case goes? >> right, intense is a bright
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line when we look at these situations. one of the most important things to appreciate here is that we are talking about some classified information, now recovered at mar-a-lago, that was top secret but also what's called s c i. compartment and information that only available on a need to know basis to people who hold top secret security clearance. top secret information is typically information that if released in unauthorized fashion has the potential to gravely damage the national security. we're not talking about last week's news that we already read in the new york times, we are talking about information that is compelling, needs to be closely held, and needs to involve real risk if it is leaked out. that is why intent, as you mentioned katie, is very important. what did the person involved in this spill of classified information intend to do? in the case of hillary clinton it was gross negligence.
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in the case that you talked about, david petraeus's case, president obama's cia director, there was more. he transfer that information to a woman that he was romantically involved in who was using it to write a book. when you have that sort of intent to do more than just mishandle and hang on to the information and put it out into the public domain, the interest in prosecuting is ratcheted up a little bit. >> you go, let's talk about that damage. earlier in the show i mentioned the letter from two house committees that want to damage report and what the fbi found in mar-a-lago. like you tell us about that? the outlook for potential congressional investigations here. >> well i think that both committees are going to move pretty quickly now, they requested a briefing, task briefing by the director of national intelligence and according to people i spoke with on both committees the intention with four members to
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sit down and get an idea of the kind of documents that were removed from mar-a-lago in the context of this. -- now just to figure out whether his handling of -- classified documents potentially entering the united states. i think there's also an expectation, katie, that some of these house members might get a sense of what was in the affidavit which was actually quite interesting. i'm assuming that's what's on the mind of people at mar-a-lago and for trump right now, was there a human source, human confidential source, at the fbi and who could it be? the number of aides and staff around trump's inner circle is so small right now, including two people very close to the presidents from the white house who were no longer part of that team. one left several months ago, one is about to leave. i think that the members of congress are about to get a very detailed report into what exactly was found at mar-a-lago. >> so, peter, we literally
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peter we got just got a statement from a statement from donald trump donald trump. 45th president of united states of america. saying that the public gets the scam. many people including former trump attorney michael cohen are predicting that donald trump will try to shift the blame to someone else. he's calling the investigation a scam in quotes and talks about poll numbers and campaign contributions. how likely is this argument from donald trump that it's somebody else, how likely is that strategy going to work? considering peter everything that has transpired to date, including the execution of that search warrant mar-a-lago? >> i think a lot of that will depend on whether or not investigators can show that he was personally aware, and personally handling classified information as it was being packed out. after it arrived at mar-a-lago. there will be some question about whether or not, this was just was a large move, of
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everything that was in the white house. and the end of the day, we have had five years, to choices excellent point, about the state of mind, talking about, leaving a chance to lock her up. over dozens of time, about the allegation that, former secretary clinton -- we'd have speech after speech, which trump has said, if you or i had a handled classified information the way we did, we would be in jail. it will be the toughest president on enforcing and handling classified information in the history of presidency. when it comes to the state of mind, and what he has said about what is right and what is wrong about what is legal, or illegal, it's hard to square that those repeated statements by trump, with the fact that again, we are focused on this recent search warrant. we are -- 15 boxes of material the media reported this, year contained's top secret information. it's not just a function of what was seized a few days ago,
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this is a pattern and a huge body of material, that i think will be very difficult for trump to square with some sort of, i had no idea what was going on defense. i fully expected to try and shift, but we'll see. >> he's the king of the ever of all going the fence of -- it which is baseless. we are now reporting on nbc news, about trump's history about being how passive it comes to classified or sensitive information. how important from a legal -- perspective is that idea of establishing a pattern or practice of behavior, for the people who may end up prosecuting a case against donald trump? >> this reminds me, early on in the trump presidency, where all of his errors, even though it was information handling, or having conversations in the oval office with representatives of a foreign governments, where he discussed classified information.
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the excuse was always, he wasn't obvious. he has not been around politics a very long. as a prosecutor, i'm not compelled by about at this point. pete disagree job at laying out, how much trump knew about handling of classified information. he made such a campaign issue of hillary clinton's issues. to go beyond that point, during his administration, he signed a law and they provisioned to raise the penalties for simple mishandling of classified information. for a president who is not engaged on many issues, he was engaged and educated on this one, and the notion that because you somehow have a -- he should get a pass, that brings pretty hollow at this point. i don't want to overall comparison, when it comes to the mob. we know in ways he operates, but this notion that because you are part of an operation
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that consistently mishandles information in a way for us to conceal it in public view, those are more intense on to mishandle, and engage in violation of the law, and it is used to get a pass for this behavior. >> i think we are on the precipice, i think all of you on this panel would agree, we are on the precipice of even more damning information that is coming out and perhaps it's a broad service reference, is it a chickens that have come home to roost? i'm not sure it's the chickens, perhaps the chickens have come home to roost for donald trump? peter strzok, joyce vance, and hugo lowell for sticking with me. thank you guys. after the break, governor abbott is busing thousands of migrants, from the texas border to d.c.. and new york, just to prove a point. and it is expensive. that is next. s expensive. that is next that is next d here, it needed to be here. doctor tc: ruby's a1c is down with rybelsus®.
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political stunt. migrants who arrive at the texas mexico border to new york city and washington d.c.. since april, abbott has brought 7000 migrant to those two cities, to broiling attention. according to texas state records obtained by an nbc affiliate, it costs more than 1400 dollars per writer, to bust those undocumented -- from washington d.c.. they're paying paid for it with private funds, unclear if he has raised enough money to cover the escalating cost. regardless of the expenses, when the migrants arrive in your city in d.c., some are confused about where they even are, and don't know where to go next. in new york, the city has exhausted its regular space, and is scrambling to lisa national space in hotels. this comes as he seeks a third term for governor, and appears to be hemorrhaging support.
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since december, his lead over his democrat challenger, has shrunk from 17 points, to just eight points. that according to polling -- >> the question is, how will this growing humanitarian crisis appears all? well the resident of texas demanded their governor stop exploiting americas border issues? innocent focused on solutions. we have the perfect person to ask. joining me now, is texas state representative, jasmine crockett. who is running for united states congress. it's always a pleasure to have you [inaudible]
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no. we don't agree with greg abbott, one thing that most people don't know is that operation lone star has been an absolute failure. i serve on the jurisprudence committee, we've had hearings about operation lone star. operation lone star was supposed to keep us safe. let's all agree, if we do not want those gang members, the cartel, we don't want those types of people crossing our borders and making any of us unsafe. unfortunately this was yet another ploy by our governor, where he wasted so much of texas money. we found out, that people such as the ones his busing to new york and d.c., he was incarcerating those people. our jails, most people don't even have air conditioning. we're spending about $250,000 a month, just put generators in our prisons, so these people can be held pre trial, which i
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believe it was illegal, and violates their civil rights. right now what he's doing, is something else. trying to get some sort of attention. sadly, he continues to pull the stunts, and he does get attention, it's the attention he's seeking. >> representative, you just mentioned that 250,000 dollar price tag for the prisons, as we mention it also costs 1400 hours to bus each migratory one of these cities. that is more than a first-class plane ticket from texas to d.c.. that money could obviously be used, and the better spent on support programs for texans. right? >> absolutely. listen. what's most people don't understand, federal law says, if you are seeking asylum, you can present yourself anywhere in the united states. and you are supposed to get the resources you need. instead of trying to provide resources for these migrants, spending money to adjust, up to him to bully people in the sea, or believe those in new york.
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i have news for them he was only elected in texas. i'm happy texans get it right. -- he does not even have that authority. any addition to that, we all know texas still has a bill in the grid. we also all know they've had uvalde, talking about all the money they -- maybe they needed to upgrade the way we go about security and our schools. texans and voters all agree some things are more important. instead of doing his job as a governor in the state of texas it's not just new york, it's not that the seat does not have migrants, texas doesn't know how to take care of the migrants, asylum seekers come through our border and it's a shame that he wants to go into a third term not knowing how to do his job. >> let's talk about that possibility of a third term. at the top of the segment.
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polling, appearing to be tightening in the texas governor's race, this november. will democrats be able to take back the governor's office for the first time since 1995 under the leadership of -- i absolutely believe we can. the problem is, to the rest of texans believe in themselves? i know we have the numbers. i want to continually remind people that our governor put out a warrant for arrest to have a special session, but when we had session children who were killed in uvalde he refused to call a special session to make sure that as our kiddos are returning to school that we do not have another uvalde massacre. that wasn't a priority, but it was a priority to attempt to arrest legislators. you tell me where his priorities lie. i know we have the numbers, i know the diversity that exists in this state, that's what scares him. he knows he does not have a diverse coalition behind him. if people will just have a leap of faith, show up, cast their
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vote, i promise eu beto o'rourke will not only be the next governor of the state of texas but he will be the best governor that we have seen in texas in a very long time. >> you know, texas state representative jasmine crockett, we love you have the show but often we have you on because it seems like greg abbott had get a darn wrong every time. thank you for being with us and sharing your insight, we appreciate you. >> thank you. >> and coming up. >> what is a legacy? it is knowing you repent it and accepted the gospel of jesus christ that sets men free. you -- to die for me. >> oh. you don't remember this line from the popular broadway show hamilton? neither doesn't lin-manuel miranda, we will explain. ♪ you know how i feel ♪ (coughing)
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controversy over its rendition of the hits broadway show, hamilton. this, after they added some of the scenes to include biblical references followed by a storm and comparing being gay to having an addiction. lin-manuel miranda, the creator of hamilton, slammed the production as a legal. he added in and wheat, quote, now the lawyers do their work. the whole thing was streamed live and some of the clips were shared on twitter, including one from the scene the world was wide enough. will play part of the original audio first, followed by the altered version. >> what is a legacy? it is planting seeds in a garden you never get to see. i wrote some notes at the beginning about the song someone will sting for me. >> what is a legacy? it's knowing you repent it and accepted the gospel of jesus christ that sets men free. you sent your stainless son on recovery to die for me by. >> joining me now is chris
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peterson, who broke the story. he is the founder of on stage blog. thank you so much for being here, chris, this morning. the church says they were given permission to perform the show, but hamilton's producers and lin-manuel to deny that claim. where do things stand now? >> great question katie, thank you for having me this morning. as i've been told from my sources is that legal teams are looking into this and in their initial statements they reserve the right to continue to contact the church, talking about the situation as it unfolded and the information is being collected. as more clips are now being released online we are seeing all of the alterations of the church made. i do not expect that this is going to be a closed situation anytime soon, in fact it could be just getting started in the long run. >> i mentioned the sermon delivered at the end of the performance at the church. let's play a part of that and see some questions on the other side. >> he knows exactly when you've
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gone through. you've gone through maybe broken marriages, maybe you struggle with actual call, drugs, homosexuality. maybe struggle with other things in life. maybe your finances or whatever, your relationships? god can help you tonight. >> chris, despite that sermon and its language, that pastor told the dallas morning news that the church was not anti lgbtq, saying everyone is always welcome. how is the public responding to what they are hearing? >> yeah, it's a very interesting question. what happened here is you are taking a beloved piece of property, one of the most 11th 11th musicals of the 21st century, possibly all-time, and changing into fifth certain views that, to be quite frank, many people in the community oppose in many ways. that sermon, i kind of take it at his word and that is how the church feels when you compare homosexuality to things like drug addiction and alcoholism. it is absolutely not the same
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thing and the church can absolutely -- but it's fair question asked how much -- the people through the stories. the man it is definitely concerning for people in the community and concerning, to, how many people have tried to do this in the past. essentially, if they're thinking of doing something like this in the future. >> in your piece you ask and answer your own question, do i feel sorry for the youth involved in this production? your answer, yes and now. can you explain a little bit more about what you meant by that response. >> yeah, no, i of course understand where certain youth in this production, teenagers, folks in their twenties that were very excited to be part of a production like this. being able to hamilton and also being told by your leadership that they have permission to do this. i mean, if you are a young person i would believe that as well, but at the same time there is a real criticism that i think can be launched towards
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those who participate in this production. especially after was found out that they had not had permission to do this. matt also, when you're attending a church that has such messaging, in many cases i question participation in that regard. i think there is criticism, obviously, towards leaders and people who are supposed to be responsible in the situation. i think it's also very fair to criticize those who participate in the production as well. >> as we mentioned, chris, lin-manuel miranda said in his tweet that now the lawyers will do their work. misappropriation of intellectual property can be very expensive. i find it can be up to $150,000 for each illegal and not approved performance. chris peterson, keep your eye on what happens. i'm curious to know whether that church continues to do the performances. thank you for being here this morning and thanks for your peace, we're bringing it to everyone's attention because i believe you are the one who broke the news.
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