thanks for watching the katie phang show. you can watch original episodes on msnbc on peacock, every thursday and friday. don't forget to follow the show on twitter instagram and tiktok. adam velshi is next. how >> good morning, it is sunday august 14th. on adam velshi, another new day and detail in the anti-democratic story of donald trump. like so much of his story, this part is littered with lies. let's circle back to last summer, where the national archives records administration relied, left office an improperly took scores of documents and items, all of which of the property of the united states. federal agents descended in mar-a-lago, and collect with the former president and he people said, was all he had.

15 boxes worth of documents and other boxes, in those documents, there were love letters, that he would exchange with north korea's jim kong own. turns out the former president and the people were less than forthcoming about that being all the classified documents with which he absconded to his tropical golf resort. we know this because nbc news has learned, somewhat familiar with the materials inside mar-a-lago, told investigators that there were more classified documents, squirrel the way at the golf resort. and the spring, trump received a federal grand jury subpoena to turn over the rest of what he had in his mar-a-lago forward. on june 3rd, a team of federal investigators including top counter intelligence officials from the justice department, met with trump and two of his lawyers at mar-a-lago. people briefed on that meeting,

and tells new york times, they show the investigators, a storage area with boxes containing more of the material that trump took. two people briefed on that visit, tell the new york times that investigators left with some of material marked classified, also importantly, around this time, one of trump's lawyers signed a written document asserting that all the material marked as classified and held in mar-a-lago, had been turned over to the government. that's according to four people, with knowledge of that document. as of last monday, search mar-a-lago revealed, that apparently was not true. the search notably included trump's office and residence, in addition to that apparent storage area. in total, the monday cash included 11 sets of classified documents, three sets labeled secret, for labeled top secret, and three sets designated as confidential. some documents are marked, highly classified, with ts

slash as c i. that means top secret sensitive compartmented information, meaning the information there is not meant to be viewed outside of a secure government facility. two sources briefed on the classified documents sought and the original subpoena tell the new york times that federal officials were prompted to search mar-a-lago, because some of the material trump took was particularly sensitive to national security. the unsealed search warrant science three criminal statutes as a legal basis for the raid including, potential violations of the espionage act. and violations of the obstruction statute. like yesterday, representatives adam schiff and caramel lonely, they are the respective chairs of the intel committee, have the oversight reform committee, they sent a letter to avril haines, a director of national intelligence, demanding an immediate review and damage assessment, on this situation as it relates to america's national security. joining me now is jane hartman,

-- a former nine term member of congress for the state of california, the author of insanity defense, why our failure to confront a hard national security problems makes us less safe. jane, in your career, good morning to you, you have dealt frequently with classified and top secret information. it seems to be, anyone who has had any interaction with the stuff, knows exactly what they're supposed to do, and what they are not supposed to do. taking into mar-a-lago is in the latter category. >> you bet. the people around trump had to know what to do, what not to do. trump is apparently known for not following rules. but they had to know how important these classifications are. i served on the housing intelligence community for eight years. four of them as a ranking democrat. after 9/11.

in that role, i was entitled to be in so came -- so called -- senior members of the intel committee, plus the leaders of both houses of congress. those briefings were a lot of -- not only did i never take a piece of paper out of the room, if i had taken any notes, they would've had to have stayed in the room. i never talked to anybody about the content and the briefings. it was important, coming back to nuclear, why would you take any materials, we don't know they, are relating to nuclear weapons, or nuclear facilities, or designs, whatever. out of the white house out of secure facility and put them in secure facility, which mar-a-lago is, let's remember, two chinese spies, who are trying to get in the last, year or a couple years ago, they were apprehended by security. why would you do that? would your purpose possibly be? and who would around you, you would think that is a good idea?

>> let's talk about that. donald trump was not sentimental about these things, he was known to destroy, burn, rub things up, thumb in the toilet. the idea that something has been kept, is notable. what could it be for? i'm not trying to cast aspersions, but why would you keep that information? >> we have no information. i don't think, he was notorious for not reading. you have to think, if it was there, again, let's wait, we see what's the justice department has said they are being meticulous about this investigation. there's absolutely no chance, this would have gotten this far, if it was not deadly serious. timeline you gave us shows us all the chances, the trump crowd had to turn over the material, and did not. and any rate, what would you do with it? you would not write a book with classified information, i don't think you would do that. it seems to me, you might consider transferring it somewhere. i have no idea where, i don't

know what it is. speculation is, russia, saudi arabia, something like that. but we have no information yet. bottom line is this is deadly serious, literally deadly serious. just like the russian bombing by the way, which is going on, the civil nuclear facility in ukraine, that whole area is now evacuated. you don't play with stuff like this. russia not be doing, it certainly, ex presidents should not be doing this. >> good to see this morning, thank you for joining us. you have a great deal of experience in this particular area. jane heiman, is a distinguished fellow -- at the joining me now is doctor david priess. former cia officer, and daily intelligence briefing, to then fbi director and former -- he's also the publisher and chief operating officer of lawfare, he's the author of the

presidents book of secrets and how to get rid of a president. david good to see you, thank you for joining us. i want to read something to you, hopefully i. it repeat is the fox news, donald trump has designated one of his representatives in the ongoing conversations, with the national archives, about these documents. read a statement, that mr. trump had a coat standing order during his presidency, that quote documents removed from the oval office, and taken to the residents where deemed to be classified the moment he removed them. and a quote. this sounds like the formation of a defense, or something. although none of the statutes cited about classified documents. have you heard of such a thing? to not happen? >> in theory, of course, it can happen. he's the president. while he is president, he does have the ability to de-classified documents, on a moments notice. that can be done.

here's the issue. when you declassify a document, that has to be recorded somehow, or no one knows that it is these classified. the document itself, we need to have some market audit. surely, it's no longer classified. -- and put the proper markings on it. more importantly, that is not the only copy of the documents in existence. there are perhaps hundreds or thousands of other computers and electronic, or printed form, and other parts of the government. almost certainly held in secure compartmentalized facilities. they're declassified, if the copy that the president has declassified, he's declassifying the content within that document. therefore, those are the documents need to be marked as well. there should be evidence of this, if it happened. in the luckiest administration i've ever seen. all kinds of things are being reported to the press, the fact

that this was never reported until the statement, does make respect -- skeptical. >> one we don't understand is motivation. we know this evidence, that they asked production is from trump. and they found out there were more documents, then people from the department of justice went to mar-a-lago, and ask for more documents, they got some, but found out that there were more, and then they finally get the search warrant, they go to get them. what we have not spoken to, over the course of the last few days, what were the possible motivations before having these documents? have you been able to get any thought, where are we able to shed any light on that? trying to get inside the former president's head is dangerous business. it's hard to know what motivations are there, but we do have some experience watching him in the presidency for four years and some of his time before and after. sometimes there is not a strict logic. there is not eight dimensional

chess going on, it is simply a win or an instinct. it could be something as simple as, this document seems special or memorable. it documents something that i found particularly interesting when i was told about it -- therefore i want to keep this. it was a memorial my presidency. maybe if all of the thoughts didn't go through someone's head, the former presidents, had someone in his staff, but that kind of motivation is not unheard of. to say this is something that struck me, this is something that is important to me, it could be so's love letters to kim jong-un, it could be 1 million other things that are classified that we don't know about. for some reason they really got their hooks into the former president with those immediately around them. the important thing to remember here is that we don't know whom these charges are targeted against. it is possible it is the former president, but it's also

possible to those around him. there was time and time again after the president left office that him or the people around him were being made aware that there were documents that they should not be in possession of, but yet they continued to have documents there. that's why we had the search and seizure, the serious crime. -- >> thanks for talking about this and helping us get -- he is a former cia officers, daily brief or four former fbi director robert mueller and attorney josh ashcroft. we will continue to dissect every detail in the anti-democratic story of donald trump to the story, including how the former president's response to the -- tropical golf course lead to a rise in rhetoric from the far-right. this week with the velshi banned book club is around the corner. on the agenda today is a classic, controversial classic, lord of the flies. more velshi after this. you are watching msnbc news. e watching msnbc news.

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still in hospital this morning after being violently attacked in public on friday in western new york state. his literary agent told associated press that russia has been taken off the ventilator and can now speak on his own. rusty was stabbed about a dozen time will participating in a discussion on priests beak each in america. he is best known for writing the satanic versus, the 1988 book, considered blasphemous by some government in majority muslim nations. -- also called for russians killing. iran's leader at the time ordered a falk russia, an edict, that the all to be put to death. the man accused of the stabbing is sympathetic, reportedly, to that kind of extremism. pleaded not guilty to assault and -- charges.

joining me now -- is in erie, pennsylvania, outside the hospital where rushdie is being treated. what more do we know about rushdie condition and his attacker? >> good to be with you, ali, signs of improvement. his agent reportedly telling the associated press, confirming that rushdie is now off a ventilator. he is now speaking and reportedly in good spirits despite suffering a remarkable dozen or so stab wounds according to the stock would county district attorney. those wounds across his body, his neck, his chest, his stomach. the accused attacker was arraigned in court yesterday on second degree attempted murder and assault charges. -- the district attorney says he called the stabbing at the lecture series a preplanned, unprovoked attack, saying that the suspect had traveled to the county by bus. he had a fake i.d. on him and

he purchased a ticket ahead of time in order to gain entry into rushdie a lecture. to law and foreign officials are telling nbc that the leading theory in the case right now is at the suspect had acted alone, inspired by iran -related extremism. they also say that in the search of the new jersey resident belonging to the suspect they found an iranian flag. they know that they had been combing through his social media accounts. rushdie has faced death threats for decades over extremists over his publishing of the 1988 book the satanic versus, which many mom muslims consider offensive in blasphemous. it called for his killing more than 30 years ago. we have not gotten any public comment from the iranian government, but newspapers there, some, have praised the attack. one calling it divine revenge. -- >> emily ikeda, thank you for

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used as political pawns. much like america's policy towards migrants, the cruelty is the point. in the absence of congressional acts action or true reform, cruelty is a deterrence to immigration that we have seen before. five years ago as soon is assuming the presidency, donald trump and his administration started carrying one of the coolest policies against immigrants in recent history. under the policy of zero tolerance, all those who cross the southern border illegally with children were mandated to be separated from those children. more than 2000 children were separated from their parents or from other adults with whom they came. this policy was very poorly thought out and has early implemented. in many cases children and babies were taken from the parent without any possible probable explanation for it for when they would see each other again. that's because the people carrying out the policy, didn't know the answer that question. record keeping was basically nonexistent, no one kept track

of the kids, the family members, or where they were taken. many of those children and two overcrowded facilities where they were basically caged in with others in the same situation. it took years in some cases for them to be reunited with their families. for a long time, the administration denied the existence of this family separation policy. now it is undeniably part of donald trump's presidential legacy. joining now is caitlin dickinson. she is the author of the magazine's cover story for next month, titled we need to take away children. the secret history of the u.s. government, family separation policy. she's been the last 18 months investigating the story, conducting more than 150 interviews in the process and has reviewed thousands of pages of government reports. kaitlan, congratulations on an important story. we talk to you for years and we know how much you work on this. one of the things that comes out of the story is the degree to which -- this is trump's policy, trump's

legacy, but it took lots of people in lots of departments both to implemented and mess it up as much as you write out. >> that's right. as soon as the country found out about zero tolerance, found out that hundreds of separations had happened in secret and then they ramped up even more and you had thousands of additional separations. anger turned towards stephen miller, trump's steve chief immigration officer and the homeland security secretary. the reality is that those two figures were absolutely pivotal, stephen miller pushed relentlessly for this to happen and kirsten nielsen ended up being pressured and pressured until she just went along with it. there were so many other people involved and, importantly, people like tom holman who was the head -- under president trump who served under both republican and democrat presidents before, he had been an enforcement in decades, he is supposed to be an a political career expert who understands the system.

he, unlike stephen miller, wasn't pushing for policies from an ideological place but from, theoretically, expertise. same story with mcaleenan who is the customs and border protection. some people really trusted to provide good information to homeland security secretary about what she would do. instead, these individuals and their staff assured the homeland security secretary that this will be fine. they said things like we have done it before, which is untrue, and systems were in place to prevent these prolonged separations, which wasn't true either. stephen miller, by the way you see on tv or streaming -- he's all over the place these days. he has a comment on everything these days. >> you write the people who know miller say he believes zero dollar save lives on immigration enforcement was traditional popular complement among his base. mueller has told them that the administration laid the groundwork necessary for a future president to implement harsh enforcement even more quickly and with greater reach than under trump.

if anyone is likely to lead another push for a government to separate families of the stephen miller. for a year and a half i tried to reach him so i could ask him, a mug of the things, why he had lobbied so forcefully for this to occur in the first place and whether he would do so again in the future. a close friend of miller and his wife explained that ever since the couple became parents, they have been consumed by childcare care and were hard to reach. again, i will put it out there, stephen miller you are invited to come on the show and i will have caitlin back and we can have this discussion. why is he so into this? what is this thing? he has been sort of an anti-immigration guy for a while. why this? >> well i think for miller this is an ideological passion, if you will. he cares a lot about the immigration system and wants to limit immigration to the united states as much as he possibly can. your viewers know that. you have other people, importantly, again not just miller put these career enforcement officials who advised the trump administration and still believe, very strongly, in what

they see as the success of zero tolerance. generally, this prevention by deterrence approach. they believe very strongly and so there is no question that these policies would come back. i can tell you i did countless interviews and there was nobody who said, maybe would take a different tack or go a little bit softer or trying to work more with congress. they are ready to hit the ground running. >> one about kyrsten nielsen? you talk about her as someone who seemed, at times, resistant tillis. she's one of the senior people who spoke out against the policy but uk say she became subsumed? >> she did and i think her story is important not to absolve anyone of responsibility, she is the highest ranking law enforcement officials who signed on on this as prosecco terry. she was, at the center of this lobbying pan campaign, she had immense pressure coming on from her white house and miller who are doing things outside of the norm and government.

bridging people throughout the agency with the manson arguments, doing much as he could to force people into agreeing with him, but then members of the bureaucracy really turned on her because they saw an opportunity for their own career advancement if they sort of saddled up to what the white house was pushing for. what happened to her, eight reflexive breakdown of these lines that should exist to prevent bad policies from ever reaching the desk of the cabinet secretary in the first place for a decision. the policy were no planning at taking place should never be presented to someone like nielsen, in this case it was. >> what happens now? we still, i've had you for years talking but how this real solution so this where we have to deal with immigration in a real matter. you can't have nobody coming into america, we would be short of workers and we have that sort of situation. but we have got to solving congress, which means it will still fall in the hands of

administrations and -- >> that's right. i know we sound a little bit bit like a broken record, saying congress, hey congress, you haven't done anything. i do think we show very clearly in the story that the absence of congressional action has left the border patrol to figure this out on their own. it is not law enforcement officials to figure out what is humanitarian policy, economic policy, international relations. all these things are left to a police force effectively that has one tool at its disposal which is punishment. that is why you continue to see border control turning back, again and again, to the same approaches. they don't work, there is no evidence they were, but when congress doesn't intervene it is basically like there's no choice but to use the tools they have. >> remarkable story. i'm glad you took the time and space and the atlantic took the time and space to tell this. it sort of keeps falling off the radar. it is not only solvable, it can be solved in a good way.

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others. there was afghan allies who are eligible for the s iv program. the special immigrant visa which opened a pathway to the united states for anyone who worked for the u.s. government. the wartime allies conducted a survey in february that showed an estimated 81,000 applicants with visa applications pending as of august 15th 2021, they stay or go, the day kabul fell, of those 78,000 remain left behind. that is the harsh reality. so many afghan civilians and allies to the u.s. government not ever got there to get out of afghanistan. even those who did face and determine the future. zain alex talk-y, zach for short, was 20 years old when he started working for the u.s. government as an interpreter. his zach and his family qualified for the program but last year he was stuck in afghanistan, held up by a

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stepping on improvised explosive devices. zach wrist his life for tom and schuman, now a marine major, was determined to pay him back for service. major schuman wrote letters to the white house, appealed on social media, and took days and intense effort while being incurred sourcing the attack in his family out of afghanistan. major schuman spoke to rachel maddow last year when he found out that all of this hard work paid off. >> we pulled every letter, poked everywhere, it was just this series of hail mary's. there are so many close calls and so many moments where i thought, maybe we contacted the right person, maybe we had the right solution to this. it was a series of tragic events. >> it wasn't easy, but back in his family are now in the united states and have been here for almost a year. i had the honor of speaking with dak and major schuman last week. zak explain the moment he

realized he was going to be rescued. >> i saw some people that there was -- i had been with the military and knew who they were, i saw that they were seal team guys and and i feel happy. i saw the guy, i think they've come for me. i shake my hand and my son was on my shoulders. they saw me from the roof top and said, sack, we see -- he sees my son he says he's wearing the blue t-shirt. i say yes or, i'm him. i jumped out and grab our bank and saw them just go bow down to the occasion open the gate. they get us in. and that, at that time i just feel pristine me. >> i wish i could say zach's turning it over, it's not. zach's most recent visa

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police posts. city posts, like military post across the country had left the weapons behind simply walking away believing that the taliban takeover wasn't navigable. mass rumors and mask panic reach all the way to the presidential palace where president ashraf ghani boarded the plane and fled to the united arab emirates, leading to a power bed, leading to the complete collapse of the government. -- the fall of saigon. american helicopters outside the u.s. embassy taking off the last remaining diplomatic staff. this, as frightening crowds of afghan civilians filled up at the airports filling onto the tarmac, desperate to be evacuated. covering the collapse of kabul from here, a year ago, one of the people they are on whom i relied that morning with matthew akins who has been covering the country for more than a decade. that is a pulitzer prize-winning journalist for the new york times magazine and

wrote this week's cover story titled the taliban's dangerous collision course with the west. he's also the author of the naked don't feel the water, an underground journey with afghan refugees. good to see you. thank you for being with us. one year later, what's going through your mind? >> well it is surreal to imagine that everything that we have been working on for 20 years just fell apart and crumbled in the blink of an eye. i was there on the streets that day, outside the wire, and wanting the taliban into the city at the end of the day. the next day we woke up to find taliban in charge of kabul, in charge of the capitol. i went back and make for the first time since the evacuation last fall. i went back for the new york times magazine for a story, i don't really try to ask the question of what is happened in this last year? how have the taliban ruling in their first year of power. one of the key issues this year than everyone is talking about

is afghan schoolgirls. why aren't they allowed high school girls backing classes and all those provinces? it was really interesting to find a lot of taliban officials for spoke to in kabul were actually in favor of allowing the girls to go back and very stretched frustrated by this decision but it had been made by sort of the shadow governments of the taliban which is the supreme leader and leadership council in kandahar in the south. >> so, the bottom line though, one way or the other, women have been the collateral damage of this thing in the pre taliban afghanistan there was education for women, women had positions of importance. during taliban rule afghanistan war there, prior, women had no rights. we are back to a place where women's rights are nowhere close to where they would have been. there's no particular intention with the taliban are doing with this. >> not to go back to the way it was under the last 20 years, where you had women, for

example, in high positions of authority. i don't predicting then afghanistan anytime soon. the fact of the matter is that when you make afghan girls the poster children for your military operation there is a risk they become collateral damage if the war fails. >> one of the things you're right about is not the u.s. failed to understand the dynamics of the political players within the country and understanding these dynamics could better inform how we approach of the crisis. i don't know whether this discussion of how girls will go back to school is part of that internal dynamic between the more conservative kandahar based, more religious fat shadow government, and the actual government. tell me more about what you mean here? there are some people who don't think we need to be engaging the taliban and all, except there are a whole bunch of afghans who are troubling and suffering under them as the west disengages. >> the fact of the matter is, the taliban are firmly in control of the country. it is complete moral and political collapse of the

u.s.-backed republic has left them with no serious challengers. over the past years we have seen a normalization of the taliban's relationships, especially with the regional countries. about the, with china, and also with the u.s. in the story i reported on. greece's secret -- recent secret meetings with the u.s. and taliban chiefs. they went in secret to kabul, thomas west meant the afghan defense minister in secret in july, and so you see this pragmatic engagement with the taliban. i do think it's very important to understand where the real power lies. i think sometimes meeting with the wrong people, because the power works in a hidden way within the movement. it is very secretive partly upon of being of uncertainty for so long. we have seen this pragmatic engagement with the taliban which, of course, what did we see very recently? the leader of al-qaeda being struck by a drone in downtown

kabul, somewhere he used to jog. so that is sort of the x-factor. if afghanistan again becomes a threat to its neighbors, the world, because of terrorist groups there would be intervention and maybe war. >> that was the starting point of this when the west believed that the afghanistan were harboring al-qaeda, -- have said they are unaware that the -- was in kabul. >> [inaudible] that the u.s. intelligence believe that most of the taliban leadership was actually unaware of alice who already being there and he was hosted by a faction connected to -- >> good to see you, thank you for my friend for your remarkable coverage of this. he is a pad sin prize writer and new york times writer. also the author of the naked over the water, undisputed journey with afghanistan --

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court overturned roe v. wade abortion became illegal in a handful of states, almost immediately including in alabama. while the decision was a major blow, abortions rights advocates in alabama had been sleeping over hurdles and red tape to provide core care for years before the fall of roe. last week, you know, i visited alabama women center in tuscaloosa that can no longer provide abortion or even advise patients about how to get one or where to get one. the facility still provides crucial services for the community, prenatal care, contraceptive care, annual exams, and other things. when i arrived at the clinic i was caught off guard. something that turned me around and i came to realize that the confusion was manufactured deliberately. >> we all arrange that we would meet here and so i pulled off, i put in my gps and pull up, and i pulled up in front of a place with a different name. >> women's choice. >> women's choice, yeah that's where i pulled up in front of.

i thought to myself that knowing that you knew i was coming here, you wouldn't give me the wrong name for where we were going to go. >> me that was near place. >> that was not. >> it's not this clinic, it's right next door to you. >> it is. this choice is one of many so-called crisis pregnancy centers. they are organizations that pretend to be legitimate medical centers. they often locate themselves right in front of our across the street from places that provide abortion. they specifically do that as a means of trying to get people who are going to abortion clinics to go into their place instead. this is something that happens not just an alabama, it happens in every state, every city. we find that patients will often get stuck there. they won't be told immediately that they are in the wrong place. we have had patients who would often tell us that they were late because they went to the

wrong clinic and then the woman's pregnancy center would tell them they didn't know where our clinic was. we share a building. we are right next to each other, to be clear. they would say they did not know where we were. we had an incident with a person who came to us from texas. she had called the wrong place, she called their center instead of our center and she drove from houston to ours in order to get here and came into their clinic at about 2:00 in the afternoon and only then did she find out the nobody there provided abortion. they did not tell her that when they set up her appointment and they also did not tell her that in alabama person has to have a in an issue appointment with an ultrasound, counseling, then they need to leave for 48 hours. only then can they come back, after that 48 hours has passed and have the procedure. so this person had traveled all

day to get to an appointment that was meaningless, only to find out that she was going to have to make another appointment with us and then go home. drive back ten hours, go and spend another couple of days back home with when she could return and have her abortion. that was three trips for her. all because they did not tell her on the phone but they did not provide abortions. i reached out to the crisis pregnancy center after abortion was made illegal, so i could find out if they had doctors that they could recommend. our doctor is very skilled and able to do everything except for actual delivery because she is not able to get hospital privileges in this city. we wanted to do prenatal care and we were looking for a doctor that we could have work with us who would deliver. here, we are going to get the people who are pregnant and don't want to be. they couldn't give me any doctors. they could tell me that they were able to give a list of

doctors who except medicaid. that's with the gift of pregnant people who come in, but they don't have anyone who is actually going to say, you are pregnant, i will deliver your baby, you have nowhere else to go. >> what we'll see. >> prior to road being overturned we had a spaced in our parking lot the the four -- and people who are going to hold events. it was a space that takes up parking, right across from an insurance firm on one side and then a pediatric clinic on the other side. there were people there, almost every day, with signs who would shout at our patients as they were coming in for care regardless of what type of care was. i think the thing that drew me away the most was that there was an organization that was show up, that would come with or signs that said babies are murdered here. they were standing right next to the pediatric clinic. they had preachers who would

get right on the back door and yell into the clinic, knowing that they were close to where the prosecutors room were. very close to the rooms, small clinic, close to the recovery rooms. they would yell hellfire, brimstone, tell them that they were all going to go to hell and that god was willing to save them if they just walk out of the clinic. that was nothing we would deal with every day here. we had one person who would tell one of our nurses we had to file something because he would yell at her that god was coming for her. i think that obviously, to us, that sounds like a threat. this is alabama, this is a place where providers have been shot, clinics have been firebombed. this is not a safe place for people to work in abortion. we knew that and it is one of the reasons why it was so difficult for so many clinics in the gulf to get doctors, especially within their communities and we were very lucky to have one willing to

take that risk. we had an off-duty police officer who came in and within the parking lot for a couple of hours every morning. i didn't like that because it was very expensive, i would rather spend that on patient care, but b, we know a lot of people come in here where from highly surveilled, marginalized community, and having to walk back passed a police officer carson all fleeing to have to do for them. the irony is that in the days that followed the decision and right before the decision, he was the crisis pregnancy center that actually got in -- the police officer and had cops kind of thriving around because they were afraid, they said they were afraid, of some sort of action against them and so they had thrown more protection and our patients never really

felt protected by the police. those of you who watch a show, no i brought you a lot of robin and west alabama abortion center, more than i typically would. we take these long interviews and we headed down and show you the portion of it. i found at every moment i spoke with her, it's so important. a lot to be as watches that conversation as i could. i want to thank her, and everyone at the west alabama wins center, for the incredible work and making f is a possibility. in the wake of the overturning of roe, it is important to shed light on abortion access and the impediment to a woman's right to choose, with program commit to network, and plan to keep banging that drum, when it comes to abortion rights in this country. because it is one of the most pivotal and important topics of our time. straight, ahead we have the latest details on the classified documents that donald trump kept at mar-a-lago. i will convene another banned book club, what is the inherent nature of