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-- a man rammed his car into a barricade and start shooting before turning the gun on himself. authorities looking into it motivated his actions. a terrifying scene in pennsylvania, a man drive his car into a crowd and the crowd
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had gathered to help family and meet. one man arrested and a suspect in another killing. -- >> more news in the don mar-a-lago search. trump commenting on the documents take. and that federal action, not the only investigation that the former president is facing. we will look at the georgia case that could spell even bigger trouble for trump. we begin with some breaking news, nbc news has learned that the fbi and dhs have issued a bulletin, describing a spike in threats to federal law enforcement in the wake of the mar-a-lago search. senior law enforcement officials tell nbc news that the bolton as dated august 12th and was sent out in an abundance of caution and its sights reads in a recent attack on an fbi office in cincinnati, urging law enforcement to take precautions. we'll have more on the story coming up. msnbc national security analyst clint.
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we also breaking news from washington, we want to stress there is no information on what motivated this but a man -- after crashes car to the supreme court this morning. their man's car was engulfed in flames prior to the cash crash, he fired several shots in the air and shot himself. according to capitol police, joining now is ali roth's our white house correspondent. ali, what have we joined about with this man was not his motive could've possibly been? >> i'm glad you stress that off the top, there, we are still not sure what the motive was here especially because we know lawmakers are back home during this august recess. that is something that capitol hill police say they are looking more into you as far as who this man was, where he's from. they say they are aware of two addresses from delaware and pennsylvania that he has lived that, as well as a criminal record that goes back around a decade.
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as far as his identity, they're waiting until notifying the next of kin before releasing that publicly. once the sun came up today that's when we saw chilling images after this crash that happened around 4:00 in the morning, when this man plowed his car into this barrier right between the supreme court and the library of congress. really just a block away from the capitol grounds. capitol police chief giving an update this morning, saying that in light of this the backdrop here, this rise of threats of law enforcement nationwide, that is also happening here at the capitol. -- >> there's always some chatter somewhere. certainly the capital is a very high target for a lot of folks. we had not had anything specific over the last few days that we would have had any idea that something like this would have happened.
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i think that law enforcement nationwide, we are on the high alert, we have put some enhanced security operations in effect so that we can not only try to hopefully deter and prevent something like this from happening but certainly respond very quickly to mitigate it if we have to. >> so one big question now is how he was able to get so close to the capital. this theory that he crashed into is a block away. he had, as you mentioned, went off on foot shooting his gun into the air and officers didn't respond to him or approached him until he was setting foot on to the capitol grounds. that is something that capitol police is definitely looking into. >> sadly, we want to switch gears because we continue to learn more information in the search of mar-a-lago. we know representative schiff and maloney we are both asking the dni for a damage assessment of the documents seized, what we know about that? >> yes.
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a letter was sent yesterday from a house oversight committee chair maloney, house intel committee adam schiff asking for this assessment returning to the box of documents taken from mar-a-lago. basically what they want to know is how damaging these documents could've been, if leaked. what sort of national security threats could the country have faced of these documents were facing the the wrong hands. adam schiff actually was on face the nation this morning, saying he is also asking for a classified briefing with this committee. that is with her carolyn maloney on this committee. listen to what he has to say. >> i have not heard back yet, but i am confident we will get one. i am confident the intelligence committee will do a damage assessment. that is, i think, fairly routine when it has been the potential risk of disclosure of national security information or classified information. >> so obviously echoing the
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sentiment from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle here, on capitol hill. asking for more information from the fbi, from now the director of national intelligence as well as the attorney general. >> ali roth, thank you for starting us off. i want to bring in joyce vance now, former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst. joyce, thank you for joining us on this sunday. i want to read you part of trump's new statement claiming they took privileged documents. he writes it has just been learned that the fbi and it's now famous rate of mar-a-lago took boxes of privileged, attorney-client material, and also executive privilege material which they knowingly fun not have taken. it goes on to say that they should immediately be returned to the location from which they were taken. what are we to make of this new statement? is it possible that two things could be true in the same time, that information can be classified that needs to return and was privileged?
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>> now, it's just not true. trump -- i sort of like the fact that he's continuing to talk, and by the people at doj and to like it to. he is going through a shifting array of potential defenses and as soon as one fails he is on sunday new. it paints a very complete picture of what is happening, here. the seizures were authorized by a search warrant signed off on by a federal judge. if there is any sort of taint, i imagine those materials would be filtered out and returned. there is no indication, whatsoever, that is the case. if in fact it was true, it is amazing that it has taken the former president almost a week to out with it. >> i want to read part of the letter that from sensitive schiff maloney sent yesterday, they are referencing washington post reporting that the fbi is looking for highly classified documents regarding nuclear documents. the letter, asking for that damage assessment, says that if this report is true it is hard to overstate the national
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security danger that could emanate from the reckless decision to remove and retain this material. now, joyce, it's important to note that we don't know if material believe with nuclear up into a seized. as a former u.s. attorney, what could be a refeel from this damage assessment that only men maybe wouldn't begin to understand? have you come into contact with a lot of these damage assessment over your career? >> well, something that is important to understand is that the intelligence community is very nimble. and once they learn that there has been a spill of classified information they are able to take steps in an effort to shore up national security as a result of this bill. of course, -- and other congressional committees with oversight responsibility are entitled to ask for an element assessment. well that doesn't mean is that they will get to see some version of the affidavit, the sworn affidavit, accompanying the search warrant that the doj had obtained. those materials are still under file and can only be released
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by the court if the court decides to unseal them, no indication that we are moving there at this point. some news outlets have made a request for that. it is well within the dni's purview to issue some kind of a preliminary threat assessment, to help congress understand what damages has been done. congress is charged, of course, with responsibility for legislating, tweaking laws, filling new ones, granting budgetary requests desire to protect national security. one suspects that they will get some format of briefing. it will be classified, we will not learn the contents of that risk assessment at least not at this point. >> and joyce, nbc news news.com has a great piece about how trump had a history of taking a cavalier approach to sensitive documents. in fact, former national security advisor said, quote, it worried people all the time. and went on to say that trump had a habit of grabbing intelligence arguments, god knows what he did with this. is a troubling pattern? >> well, it's really troubling.
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for this reason. let's say that you live in the middle of a family that is cocaine trafficking organization and you see grandma and grandpa packaging of cocaine for sale every night at the dining room table. when law enforcement conference you, you say it was really troubling. it really worried me. now, that is not how it works. in particular for john bolton and others in the white house, when they saw trump engaging in potentially criminal activity that put the national security at risk, they were obligated to do more than just shake their heads. they had the ability to take measures that would have put security provisions in place to keep trump from doing -- when there's some suggestion that he ultimately did. cbs is reporting that trump simply walked out of briefings with some of these documents and that may be the path they took to wind up in mar-a-lago. one thing that happened, that's
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abundantly clear at this point, is that there was an application of responsibility by the people around the -- to protect the national security. there will be very likely national security legislation to -- tighten up security around presidential backers, classified records, and high-level information. >> thank you so much for your expertise and your. time next i will be joined by loft senators lofgren castro talked with the fbi search and how could overlap at the january six investigation, as well as the damage assessment request by the intel committee. and i want to get over to some breaking news. the man accused of driving a car through a crowded crowd in pennsylvania has been charged with murder. one person is killed in the attack, at least 17 others were hurt. police have also charged the man for another murder, just after the car attack. nbc's john george solis is on
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the ground in pennsylvania, it is around 19 minutes from allentown with more. you have information that is coming in the last hour or so? >> that is right, lindsey. we talked about certain types -- the suspect likely killed his mom. in that report states that the woman was struck by a car and struck with a hammer. here at the scene i want to show you what the community has been doing in light of all of this tragedy. they are putting together a memorial outside of where this took place. you can see, they have sought to share, we love our town. that is what the media. showing as for the suspect, andrew reyes he was arraigned and is in jail without bond. police say he came here to the scene and ran over a bunch of people who were holding a fund-raiser to help out a neighboring community that was dealing with his own tragedy. they had lost ten people in a deadly house fire. that fire according just 90s ago. here on the scene of this accident, a 50 year old woman died, 17 others were injured.
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many is people taking a local hospitals. we can report that fiber in critical condition, others were able to go home. as far as the other scene, the scene where we now know this was likely his mother. troopers went over when they heard that a woman was being assaulted and they found her dead. we talked some residents out here in the community who have just been taken so aback by all this tragedy. here's what one had to say. >> i had friends from the fire in escapade, i used to work at -- enterprise and they would come down and put the papers up and they were all friends of mine. they said to some of them, we are here tonight, with the family. they had a benefit going on and it's just terrible. i mean, just this world anymore. >> yeah and lindsey today we found out the victims of that house fire, some had funerals and him not long ago. we saw perception of first
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responders driving through the scenes to, again, a powerful reminder that this committee is dealing with so much emotional baggage right now. there is all of that as a result of that tragedy and this tragedy. again, raise is still in custody with no clear motive at this point. a lot of people have that question, why did this happen? >> nbc's george solis, thank you. in israel, eight people were injured in a palestinian attack on a sea bass early sunday morning. a gunman opened up on the fire bus near the entrance to jerusalem's western wall. it comes a week after violence flared up between israel and militants in gaza. two -- are in serious condition including a pregnant woman. u.s. innocence including a family of four from brooklyn were among those injured in the shooting. the suspect turned him self in, following a manhunt that lasted several hours. but the u.s. ambassador to israel and the u.s. office of palestinian affairs condemned
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the shooting, calling it a terrorist attack. >> still ahead this hour, a look into the georgia probe in avalon action interference as -- fight requests to testify. ukraine's other army. how private to the dissidents in the embattled country are stepping up to volunteer in the war against russia. first, gas prices are finally falling after months of record highs. how much relief americans are feeling as the country continues to struggle with high inflation. hig inflation. this is the moment. for a treatment for moderate-to-severe eczema. cibinqo — fda approved. 100% steroid free. not an injection, cibinqo is a once-daily pill for adults who didn't respond to previous treatments. and cibinqo helps provide clearer skin and less itch. cibinqo can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. before and during treatment, your doctor should check for infections and do blood tests.
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north carolina. what are you hearing about the price drop? >> yes. so, finally some relief from that pain at the pump that we have been feeling, lindsey. the national average now is under $4 at three 95. here at 3:39 at the station right north in raleigh, north carolina of interstate i-40 stretching from california to north carolina. some states already below $3. henderson, kentucky today, $2.83. does across the border and evansville, indiana, they saw as low as two 68. other states expected to drop that low. texas, oklahoma, others according to some analysts. that is -- those prices, though, there's a few of actors that go into it. oil prices, of course, in the oil supply has not quite recovered to pre pandemic levels. still about 5% below where it was in 2019. but president biden released u.s. oil reserves, so that is helping. it is effective but i'm not sure what's going to happen at the end of the year when those are up.
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consumer demand is also a factor here. according to a recent aaa survey, consumer motorists say that after that four dollar mark is really when the majority of respondents say they start to make changes like cutting back on driving, postponing vacations consolidating errands. now it's dropping below that four dollar mark, we might see the man pick up even though here at the station the owner saying he seeing the pumps busier recent days this week. we spoke to some motorist about how they're feeling, about these prices, about the trending slide, let's listen. >> i feel great about prices going down. but they need to go down further. >> the prices are coming down almost every day, so it's encouraging. >> i love this. three 69 across the street but 3:39 here. why shouldn't it all be the same price? >> prices are going to and i'm
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glad they're going down because they ridiculous on one point. i need them go down a little bit more. >> in a lot of people want to see it go down a little bit more. analysts say that should happen in the coming weeks, dropping between ten and 25%. some states enacting tax holidays for gas, so that will shave off a few more sense at the pump in some places. now energy and food prices are key indications of inflation, here, that have of course been high. i mean goes the other way, to. when the gas prices go down, you can also slow the rate of inflation. lindsey? >> we saw of hurricane season bill where you about, as well. under that will do. in north carolina, thank you. more on the breaking news we've been following, a new fbi bulletin warning of a spike in threat to law enforcement. a come in as right-wing media fuels extremist anger over the surge of mar-a-lago. >> they are constantly saying, they're writing the word go.
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♪ wayfair you've got just what i need ♪ welcome back i'm lindsey reiser. we are following the fbi and dhs issuing a bulletin this griping us by contrast federal law enforcement in the wake of the mar-a-lago shirt. sources tell the nbc news that a bulletin audit dated august 12th was sent out in an abundance of caution. the bolton says the threats are coming from online and other platforms. it cites the attack on an fbi office in cincinnati, it ultimately led to the shooting of the suspect in the standoff with police. joining me right now is clint watts, nbc national security analyst author of messing with the enemy, surviving in a social media world and, hackers, terrorists, russians, and fake news. what do you make of this bulletin? is it something you would expect after the attack we saw
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in cincinnati? >> absolutely, lindsey. i think it's consistent with what you would see anytime you see an attack of such major nature as we saw in cincinnati. also if you are in a right-wing social media at this point, particularly the far-right extremist corners, you will see lots timing lots of discussion. nothing approached since the january 6th insurrection. discussion of civil war in trying to overthrow the united states government. many annotations a deep state cover-ups, that sort of thing. whenever you have more violent rhetoric of the increased probability that there would be a violent act becomes very intense. i think at this point is not if, but when. the other thing about it is we know who the targets are, fbi agents, we have to sign their affidavits, it warrants. their names are always disclosed in public and they are don't operate undercover
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exception specific situation so they are susceptible to this violent when commits being from political leaders or former presidents. >> the article in the new york times really highlights we were talking about. it becomes dehumanizing and apocalyptic language, especially by those in far-right media. a key reason for this rise online. i want to play you some of the language they are talking about. >> the way your federal government has gone it's like when we thought about the gestapo, the secret police that we've seen into tara tally and regimes. if you're associated with trump in any way you may as well across all your eyes and not all your t's because they are coming for you. >> it is a declaration of war against the american public. >> we have to define it and make cuts in the department of justice. >> use the tools at their disposal to defund the fbi. >> the next president of the united states needs to prosecute everyone. >> this is coming from, typically, the party that believes in on for order, backs
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long horsemint, but you think for example calling this the gestapo as terms of what we're seeing is play into the violent rhetoric. >> absolutely. you'll see quit all the time in the media shared in all of that media that you showed right there is not only showing up in small amounts but in huge amounts. that's in these online forums. when we went and looked at where this individual was posting, there were true social posts. they very clearly laid out that this person was -- a thought it was time for civil war. he spoke of that and -- even was posting in, during, and right after the attack. in terms of the rhetoric the more heated rhetoric and more people calling for vigilante justice, the more you are going to see fbi agents and workers across the board being targeted most troubling in all this is that the state local level. the state local level were going to election season, poll workers are essential for
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proper conduct of an election. i expect this rhetoric will heat up tremendously over the next three months. it is quite worrisome, because of the same local election officials -- that cannot defend themselves, don't have the resources or capabilities for something like the fbi would. have clint, you mentioned the fbi agents sign off on these warrants. we also know that, for example, the judge who authorized the search warrant was targeted by trump supporters. breitbart news release the names of the fbi agents involved in the search. how dangerous is that? >> it's very dangerous for the individuals involved. it's known as doxxing. i can tell you, personally, i am friends who are fbi agents were targeted based on their name appearing in public documents as they were doing their lawful orders that they were following. doing their actual job, their name just appears legally and transparently on department of justice documents. it caused them to be targeted
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in harms their way of life. >> terrible to hear. clint watts, thanks for your time. the doj investigation into trump pick up steam this weekend other criminal probes are inching closer to the former president. we're talking about the georgia investigation into alleged attempts to overturn the 2020 election. last month subpoenas were issued to more than a dozen key temperament visors including south carolina senator, lindsey graham, and trump attorney general, rudy giuliani,. the da told us last month that they wouldn't rule out subpoenaing the former president himself. i'm now joined by gwen keys fleming, former district attorney of the neighboring county and coauthor of the brookings institute analysis on the georgia case. gwen, thanks for joining us. we're still awaiting the federal judge us ruling on senator lindsey graham's challenge to his subpoena. it seems unlikely that it would be granted. what do you make of his legal team's arguments? specifically that his phone calls with georgia secretary of
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state, brad raffensperger, are protected under legislative immunity. >> i think that is something that we are waiting to see how the judge will rule. i bet there is a good case to be made that calls to a state official would be outside the bounds of what the senator was doing with his committee and his work in bc, particularly in the way that secretary of state raffensperger has described the call. i think we're all waiting to see what the judge does in this case. but certainly, if the da gets the opportunity, i'm sure she will ask the senator what his view of that one particular call was. what he was trying to achieve. remember, the special grand jury is already heard from raffensperger on his views and how he felt pressure as a result. >> rudy giuliani has been instructed to appear before the special grand jury on wednesday despite his lawyers claims of his poor health. you are calling it the brookings institution. you told the new york times
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that when it comes to georgia, giuliani may be the single most responsible person after trump. do you agree? >> i think, again, if you look at the evidence that was publicly available, recognizing that the da now has subpoena power, she is in -- and we in the public do not have. based on what was publicly available, some of the statements that mr. giuliani made both to the georgian house and the georgia senate could subject him to criminal liability whether it is for making false statements or part of a larger conspiracy to commit election fraud or even a possible -- again, the viability of all those charges are with the da and her team are going to be looking at as they continue their investigation. >> legal experts pointed out that willis is less restricted in her accidents than merrick garland and others in
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washington. a lot of legal experts that i've spoken to about this believe the georgia investigation actually poses the greatest legal threat to trump. do you agree with that? >> i think that the differences between the u.s. rico statute and the georgia rico statute dua gives fani more leeway to be able to tell the full story, or a broader story, of what may have happened leading up to the january 2nd call. again, it will rely heavily on the connections or lack thereof that witnesses may make with the president to be able to build this larger sense of this really was some type of conspiracy where there was an agreement and an act by one or several people to move forward with approving or an certifying the georgia elections. >> quinn, thanks for joining. us >> coming, up liz cheney's
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fight to keep her seat in congress. we'll take a look at this week's republican primary races in wyoming. as well as alaska, where sarah palin is running for office once again. (dog sniffing)
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but, they don't. they only cover select cities with 5g. and with coverage of over 96% of interstate highway miles, they've got us covered. all eyes onoming this week where congresswoman, liz cheney, faces an uphill battle to hold on to her seat at the republican primary against her trump endorsed challenger, harriet hageman. but a wide lead over cheney. nbc news senior to politics reporter, jonathan allen, has been there all weekend talking to voters. what have you been hearing? >> i've been hearing a lot of different things. we've had a crew out here around the state, but basically it seems consistent with the polling. there aren't very many people who are expecting. it's going to be a surprise that it will be closer than
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some of the polls indicate. there are a number of different opinions. cheney is running to into problems, one is the affinity of the state for donald trump. it gave him his biggest margin in 2020. and there aren't enough republicans who agree with cheney added to the number of democrats who might switch the registration, sometimes they switch their registration to vote for her to add up to the percentage of the republican party that supports trump. there are different views here and take a listen to one voter that we spoke to this weekend we. >> i'll be voting for hageman because i think she stands more for wyoming values than liz cheney. i have a lot of respect for liz cheney, and some of the things she's done, but i didn't think it represented the voice of the wyoming people. so i chose to vote for the other one. >> you know, one of the things
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that i've heard a lot from democrats and some republicans is that they didn't know that wyoming values meant lying about the last election. they didn't know it meant inciting a riot at the capitol insurrection. it. -- donald trump does not -- mayor misguided about that. let's take a listen to what one former trump voter and now cheney voter said. >> did you vote for trump? >> i did it. >> and 16 and 20? >> and 16. >> so what changed for you? >> 16 and 20. you know, really, the biggest thing for me was january 6th that change for me. like i, said i'm a republican. i have republican beliefs. i have instilled in me from my parents, but january 6th is really turned for me. >> the pro cheney segment is
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smaller than the pro trump segment and wyoming. what you just heard is we heard a lot, of there's a deep loyalty to liz cheney. some of the democrats said that if she ran for president they would take a look at that. >> so let's take a look at. that cheney has been a critic of trump. walk us through specifically how that's impacted her race but also some of the other republicans who voted to impeach trump? >> there were ten republicans who voted to impeach trump. only to have survived primaries, several of them have decided not to run again. several of them have lost primaries again. you have cheney coming up on tuesday as another test to what it meant to stand against donald trump within the republican party. there is a price to be paid. first we saw liz cheney lose her spot in the republican -- suite came to wyoming to campaign.
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cheney is likely to lose here on tuesday. >> senior politics reporter, jonathan, allen thank you. some familiar names are on the ballot this week in alaska. sarah palin is running for congress. she is hoping to win the primary race with the late representative, don young,'s house seat in the special election tuesday. republican senator, lisa murkowski, is also facing a primary and what will be alaska's first use of ranked choice voting. nbc capitol hill correspondent, ali batali, is live in anchorage, alaska. ali, first walk us through the primary that palin is hoping to win. >> lindsey, this is palin's first for a back into the national electoral spot. remember, she was governor here prior to that mayor of wasilla. and then she was of course the running mate for than gop standard -- john mccain in the 2008 election. she left the governorship after that time in the national spotlight. some voters here remember that. it will be an inflection point while they consider to --
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let her be the one person to represent them in the house of representatives that she turns to head to congress. you're, right they are employing a new system of voting. something that alaska voters tried to say that they wanted to put in place in 2020. this is the first time they are trying. it is a ranked choice voting system. you are going to see palin alongside people like the other republican in this race, along with mary peltz hala, who is running as the democrat. the way that ballot is going to look is are going to see all of those names with deese and ours to noted, but they are not separated by party. voters are going to be able to rank them one through three. the third person, that person with the least amount of that vote will be the third place person they will then be taken out of the race and their votes then will be reassigned based on who their voters put second. what it means and what experts tell us is that this kind of voting tends to benefit people to build community and shy way from the negative campaigning. there's still been negativity in this race but at the same
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time there has also been moments of comedy and bipartisanship on debate stages and things like that. we'll see if this is a moment where palin's firebrand persona finally matches some of the other people who are big in this house republican conference in washington. >> let's talk about mark huskies primary i want to talk about. murkowski's primary before we go. if she expects to advance their? >> yeah, that is going to be another hot contest there. in the way that palin has trump's endorsed mint and things that could help buoy her in that field, murkowski had is no favorite of the former president. in fact when he came here for a rally recently he said he would rank her among the worst of the republicans. he is not spared choice words for her. she is someone who has routinely, not just booked the former president but blocked her own party the one of the few -- of the senate where i typically spend my time trying to branch over the things that the reproductive access issue, potentially things like guns, things we have seen over the last month psyche of voters
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here a sense of the independent voice that she will be. the opponent in this race, kelly take, somebody who does have trump's endorsement in both of these races. we will see in a state that went for trump in 2020, if it means more to be an independent voice or be lockstep with the former president. >> i'll leave tally, thank you. after a break, the look at the brave ukrainian volunteers working to save the country as russia continues its invasion. age is just a number. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health. versus 16 grams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients for immune support. boost® high protein.
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senator markey is joined by three fellow democrats and a republican member. a new morning to russia today. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy says that any forces charting the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant will become special targets as he once again accused russia of nuclear blackmail. as we get closer to six months into this war, atlantic writer and applebaum writes about her trip to engage with the mood of people. fear becomes normalized, she writes, until eventually it becomes another part of backer noise. minus an air raid shelter, windowless room, no one went there during air riots. you will be luckier like ethan porter told me, no point in trying to escape faith. anne applebaum joins me now. such a grim picture, there, but they are also trying to maintain a scent of normalcy there. obviously they are still consumed by war. tell us about that balance. >> it is a lot different than
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what you would think, probably. if you're not at the front lines, if you're in odessa, as i was, or kyiv if you're in western ukraine. things go on as normal. supermarkets are full, there is traffic, people go to work. the difference is, of course, that everybody knows about the war and they follow it closely. the other really important difference, one that i think we have missed a bit in our coverage of the war, is that so many people, ordinary people, people working in accounting offices or hotels -- they drive taxes are they working hospitals. so many ordinary people are becoming involved in volunteer efforts to help the war and refugees. whether that's calling laying people out of war zones, helping people evacuate, raising money for a specific army units or army brigades. i met a couple of engineers notice a who had worked out which kind of optical equipment
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would best help ukrainian snipers and riflemen. they were obtaining it from japan in the mail and bringing it to the unit in the field. there is a lot of, a huge amount of social effort going on to support what's happening. that actually creates an atmosphere that isn't as gloomy as you would imagine. people are positive and they are, optimistic they think they can win. >> i think one of the most striking images in your piece, which i encourage everybody to read, is a city square in odesa the where you see people apartment isn't in the corner of the photo you can see those big bubble wants. jesse would see that many other parked park, any other leader surely day. of course, odessa still in the middle of being robbed by war. but talk to me about the other incredible people you profile. one young girl return to ukraine after study in the u.s. abroad, she created this organization for people to volunteer. then the war started and, boom,
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demand exploded. >> she is a really interesting person. she is -- and she was studying in the u.s. as a high school student, so she was a very ordinary american high school where she first encountered the concept of community service. she knew went back to ukraine, she created an organization that would help other people become involved in volunteering and when the war started suddenly tens of thousands of people wanted to know how they could help. they wound up creating website and chat sites, a whole series of ways to put people to connect on the internet so people with particular skills whether there were drivers, emts, nurses, and they could connect with people who needed help that exact moment. now they help something like 100,000 people fine volunteer jobs and she is helped these people create a team of very young people, mostly in the twenties, managing the site and helping people connect with one another. really uniquely people like that all over ukraine in almost
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every city. there are people who are have suddenly realize they need to change the way their lives work, or change their organizations. they need to adjust to the war and they need to figure out how they can help, what their particular role will be. >> and we have about 30 seconds left of the, but you also write that they do this out of necessity. soldiers don't have first aid kits, snipers don't have uniforms. >> it's, you know, it's a pro or country. it hasn't been -- the army hasn't been as well equipped as it should've been. because people recognize that this is a problem and they are stepping in. there is a darker side of the story, but the positive side is that people are seeking to plug the gaps and make up for lost time. >> anne applebaum, thank you so much for joining us. coming up next hour, new details on the fbi search of mar-a-lago. we'll talk to the january six committee member so we lofgren about what it says about the justice department's willingness to actually act on evidence against trump. >> a man would end up
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we're following the breaking news, the fbi releasing a new warning to federal law enforcement in the wake of the mar-a-lago search and the targeting as some of their own agents. this is the political fallout from the seizure of top secret documents continuing in full force. these documents are not only containing our nation's top secret, but because our country would do us harm, do harm to our own citizens. we don't want them to get a hold of them in any way, take photos of them, anything, because they can reverse engineer them and figure out who the sources are, what's the confidential confirmation. is that's why it's so important that these documents remain in safe locations. mar-a-lago, you can check out croquet sets and china's rockets and golf clubs, that's not one of them. >> i am hoping that if they actually did this and if they recognized how serious this was they did have their act together before they went in and did this and then

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