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tonight, on a special two hour edition of the mehdi hasan show, -- and still failed to defend trump after the fbi searched his home. i will unpack it all. and the other major legal challenges facing the former president, including the new york attorney general's expanding investigation. then, the fbi is facing an unprecedented number of violent threats. is the trump lead gop inciting domestic terror? good evening, welcome to the show, i am mehdi hasan. we have new breaking news
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tonight. a bulletin from the fbi and department of homeland security warns of a surge in threats and calls for violence against federal law enforcement officers and government personnel. according to nbc's kelly o'donnell, the bulletin includes the following passages. these threats are occurring across multiple platforms online, including social media sites, web forums -- the fbi warned that it has seen personal identifying information for possible targets of violence, like home addresses and identification of family members as additional targets. horrific stuff. earlier today, a man died by suicide after driving a car into a barrier outside of the u.s. capitol building. the individual got out of the car, and as officers approached fired shots into the air before ultimately shooting himself. this all comes on the heels of the cincinnati fbi field office attack on thursday, carried out by a former january 6th insurrectionists, who seems to
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be incited by the maga cult response to federal agents searching donald trump's home in mar-a-lago, for classified materials. it is that ludicrous, hyper ventilating may get called response that i want to begin with tonight. by, now we have all come to accept that donald trump lies as easily and as often as the rest of us breathe. as according to the fact checkers at the washington post, he made 30,573 false or misleading claims during his four years in the white house. which, in my view, is certainly a conservative underestimate. the point is, he lied a lot as president. still, the lies that we have seen over the past week, from the former president himself and from his political -- about classified documents, fbi searches, nuclear secrets, barack obama, and more. they have been a sight to behold. let's start with trump's own statement from monday evening, which announced to the world that the fbi had been at his property, and which was filled
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with lies, big and small. here's a small and. that statement begins with the sentence. these are dark times for our nation, as my beautiful home mar-a-lago in palm beach, florida, is currently under siege, rated and occupied by a large group of fbi agents. but it was not rated or occupied, and it was not currently under siege. the fbi had left his property by the time that he put out the statement. trump must have known that, because according to his own lawyer, he was watching the search go on in realtime while sitting in his new jersey resort. that is a small eye, you might say, not that big of a deal. but the statement goes on to make a series of false and inflammatory claims about the judge authorized search itself, claiming that it was an attack on radical left democrats, and accusing those democrats of breaking into the home of the 45th president of the united states. democrats had nothing to do with it. the fbi executed the search
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warrant, and the fbi or not democrats. if anything, like most law enforcement agencies, they lean to the right. the director, christopher wray, is a lifelong republican, oppose appointed by a republican president. he has impeccable credentials. how do i know that donald trump knows this? he's the one who said so. he appointed wray as fbi chief in june, 2017. within hours of the search, trump and his apologists had gone to work. fabricating the most abstain and offensive, and baseless claims. by tuesday, they were floating the idea that fbi agents must have just planted evidence during their search. fox primetime host, promptly joined in, and by wednesday, even top republican lawmakers were saying it to. watch. >> quite honestly, i'm concerned that they may have planted something. at this point, who knows? i don't trust the government, and that's a very frightening thing is an american. >> with the fbi is probably doing is planting evidence,
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which is what they did during the russia hoax. we also have a hunch that they doctored evidence to get the warrant. >> do i know that the boxers of material that they took from mar-a-lago, that they won't put things in those boxes to entrap him? the lawyers weren't allowed to see the backs's go, weren't categories, thousands of documents were taken. how did we know that they're going to be honest with. us >> to be clear, there is no evidence that the u.s. -- they did not just go after the fbi, they went after the magistrate judge, bruce reinhardt, who signed off on the search warrant, casting him has an obama donor. the judge is also a former donor to former republican governor and son and brother of a republican president, jeb bush. and andrew kaczynski reported that the judge is a former regular guest on that liberal cable channel, news lacks. sitting in for tucker carlson was, even aired this doctored image of the judge getting a foot massage from convicted sex
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trafficker ghislaine maxwell. he clearly said it had been done in jest. it was not, that was a false statement. the judge, by the way, has faced an onslaught of antisemitic attacks and threats online, some of which targeted the synagogue he belongs to. never take the gop seriously again on the subjects of law enforcement or antisemitism. still, the lies and evasions kept coming all week long. why did they just not subpoena the documents? why send the fbi? they did subpoena trump for the documents several months ago, and did not get everything back that they had asked for. at one point, trump and his company had been telling so many lies that they started to blatantly and hilariously contradict each other. the documents were planted, they said. but then they also said that trump declassified the documents. he declassified documents that were planted. right. oh, and those planted documents were definitely declassified. even though we learned on friday that the fbi removed 11 sets of classified documents,
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including some marked as top secret, and meant to be only available in special government facilities. oh, dear. then came the next set nonsensical defense from trump world. >> this is from president trump's office. it just came in a few minutes ago. as we can all relate to every -- as we can all relate to, everyone has to bring home their work from time to time. american presidents are no different. president trump, in order to prepare the work of the next day, often took documents, including classified documents to the residents. he had a standing order, there's the word i've been looking for, the documents removed from the oval office and taken to the residents were deemed to be declassified the moment he removed them. >> for a start, where is the standing order? it has to be written down, where isn't? and it's not just true, it's just not true. it's just not true to claim that the president can declassify whatever he likes! nope.
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according to the atomic energy act of 1946 and 54, anything related to the production or use of nuclear power is inherently classified. it emerged on thursday, via washington post scoop that classified documents relating to nuclear weapons were among the items fbi agents sought in the search of mar-a-lago. what's next? what about? what about hillary clinton? what about barack obama? eric trump's son of the trump -- on monday night. >> going back to hillary, there's a whole lot of other things. how about the benghazi scandals? how about the clinton foundation? how many shady oligarchs of russia were contributing to that? how about the iranian war? you want to talk about scandals that were never investigated, never vetted? >> benghazi was never investigated? are you kidding me? it was an entire benghazi select committee, to which she
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testified for multiple hours. by the end of the, week gop congressman marc wynne mcmullin was offering this ridiculous and false hillary clinton claim. >> we saw that this media frenzy, about supposedly classified information uses the same media frenzy when there were 33,000 classified email on a server in a bathroom with hillary clinton? >> no media frenzy about emails. was he asleep all of 2016? did he missed the part where her emails cost for the presidential election that year? but trump had the best clinton ally of all in his very first statement of monday. he dusted off an old and insane classic. she was allowed to delete and acid watch 33,000 emails after they were subpoenaed by congress. how do you acid wash and email? as my colleague ben collins
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pointed at that, night in reality and i.t. guy used an app called bleach bid for trump that became -- she poured literal acid on the emails. by the next day, he had a fox primetime host repeating this deranged and dom lied to millions. >> hillary smashed iphones with hammers, and poured acid over 33,000 emails under subpoena. >> i have no words. what about hillary clinton? there was one about prized and barack obama? brock hussein obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified. and many of them pertain to nuclear? where it is, lots! where it is, lots! no, where it is, donald trump lies a lot and is quite racist. notice the use of hussein obama there. what's trump said there about obama was a straight-up lie, debunked within hours by the
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national archives and records administration, which put out a statement saying that they maintained, quote, exclusive legal and physical custody of president obama's records. 33 pages of unclassified records, which they say they moved to the chicago area, not obama. and, yet the disgraced did obama lie it has been repeated by trump and trump world since friday afternoon. they have no shame. no problem and is the humiliating themselves on behalf of trump. at the start of the week, therefore comparing the former presidents retention of classified documents in mar-a-lago. it was a trivial thing, these were knows people quickening's -- on friday, we finally saw the search warrant. along with the laws that trump was being investigated for breaking, all from title 18 of the united states code, mainly section 793, or the espionage act, that covers the unlawful retention of defense related information that could harm the united states. section 1519, which controls
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concealing government documents to prevent investigation. serious crimes, serious statues, and as charlie savage of the unit times reported on friday, declassification, if it happened, is not even a defense. notably, none of those laws turn on weather information was deemed to be unclassified. i don't know whether donald trump ends up getting indicted. when i do know is that donald trump is in trouble. big trouble. donald trump knows that he is in big trouble. because the bigger trouble he is in, the bigger lies he tells. stick around, i will break this all down with my expert panel of lawyers, david henderson and lisa grays, and trump biographer tim o'brien. that is after a very short break. what do you want to leave behind? that's your why. it's your purpose,
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before we get to all of it here's my panel of experts. a select lawyer and former prosecutor and see the end contributor. the executive editor of the bloomberg opinion in the last
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couple of days trump allies are fixated on the idea that you don't actually declassify all of the highly sensitive materials at mar-a-lago -- but to be clear, whether they were classified or declassified is not the main legal issue here. and we've seen the search warrant on some of the laws being investigated? >> the espionage act does not require that the documents that pose a risk to a national security declassifying, and in fact as you pointed, many, there's no law that allows the presidential to waive some magic wand to declassify all sorts of information. and the document reports innocence and we know there were secured compartmentalize information that were the most sensitive that had sort of clearance that are protected because of their is they pose. to the national security, is wellness topsecret incidents. but the espionage act does not require anything to be classified specifically in order for it to apply. i think trump is in a world of
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bubble. we may have to start calling him benedict donald. >> the espionage act once apply to people like edward snowden. trump is certainly not a whistleblower. i don't think you could call on that defence for any violation to the espionage activity. you know donald trump. you followed his career for many years. and part of me pitches you for that. is his mindset right now? we've seen reporting toward the beginning of the week he fell up his fbi search could boy him back to the top of conservative media conversation, the gop race, but apparently his mood has changed in recent days. what do you think? >> i don't think he was born from the very beginning of this one. i think he understood the stakes them in that search warrant was executed. i think donald trump is a deeply ignorant man. he's not a sophisticated man, but his secret power is -- around how to interpret the fbi
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search and he labeled it a read saying the united states had a broken legal system, just like third world countries. all that got embraced by fox news and the enablers in the gop and they had about two new cycles worth of momentum out of that. by the time merrick garland belatedly gave guidance to the american public about with the justice department's intentions were here, i think the wheel had turned. it has just amped up since last thursday. i think the initial focus, as well as the fbi off the rails here, he effectively change people from focusing on him to focusing on the fbi's actions. now that the people are focusing on him, his motives and all of this become paramount. i think you really have to ask yourself, why did donald trump take these documents? i think it drops and free baskets. i think at least painful one of them is that he's a seven year grown old, still from the white house that he wanted to keep. late models of air force one
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and it's paint job. the more perilous and damaging issues have to do with whether he had financial incentives, donald trump's business is under enormous stress. he faces an aging investigation and the new york attorney general investigation they could put him out of business. he owes a lot of debt. his son-in-law and former treasury secretary both cashed in under relationships with the saudis. i think he saw peoples administration monetizing their service. i think we can't put it past anyone that trump saw some of these documents as avenues for him to making money. i think that the third possible basket here is damage control for his own reputation. actions you might have taken before your eyes leadership while he was president. >> the idea that donald trump gets the others around him -- there's a high likelihood -- he doesn't lead into his ignorance for once and be like, how did i know this stuff was classified? you know i don't read. the scandal involving donald
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trump involving documents makes a lot, given one of the intelligence communities has had to draw pictures for him and color him to get him to even pay attention. david, and intellectual dynamo of the conservative heritage foundation argued this week that there is a quote, which debate about whether a president could be classified documents simply by thinking it. in my head, i'm picturing a telepathic battle between donald trump and barack obama, and jimmy carter and bill clinton on some astral plane, while trying to classify, declassified documents in their head as former president. conservatives are just making stuff up here when it comes to laws, rules, regulations, that everyone has followed from both parties for decades. >> mehdi, that's exactly right. you have to keep in mind, i'm a trial lawyer. i like to make things a simple as possible. with they're arguing here is like my mom telling me, look, no cookies before dinner. it will destroy your appetite. i'm responding back by saying, mom, i hope you understand that i appreciate your policy, but i
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have decided that if i reach for the cookie, by reaching for it, i'm saying that i am entitled to have it. assuming i survive would comes next, my mom is going up the faith with that, let's pretend for a minute that actually gave it to you and told you could have, and that is still does not change the fact that i'm saying you cannot eat it before dinner. because as we've discussed so far, the three laws written on that warrant have nothing to do with whether or not the information is classified or declassified, so to try to refer back to an executive order from the administration, that relates to how presidents can define documents, it doesn't get you out of it. let's think about it in common sense. we talk about national security. let's say someone draws a picture, something's classified. by definition, that drawing cannot be classified, because only the person who made it knows it exists. but it still relates sensitive information of these laws that -- with they're arguing here makes no sense. >> yeah. it doesn't make sense. that's never stopped them before. lisa, tim used the word belated
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to refer to merrick garland's press conference. you can argue it was indeed related. nevertheless, he did put immigrant world on the defensive call their bluff and some. louise would you make of the attorney general's decision to hold that press conference? what would you be advising him to do if he was still in the doj from monday onwards? >> i think what he did was the right thing. it's an unusual thing for the department of justice to talk about search warrants before indictments are issued. he felt that he had to do so in order to clear up some of the disinformation and law -- and the proxies, and i think he did the right thing. i do think that this is the situation in which donald trump is not just lying to people, he's actually continuing to use his people as an atm. i have no less than 18 text messages from trump's team and his son asking for money around this rate, and all caps telling his followers that they are coming for you. would i want to say yes this is
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the former president who for three hours did nothing -- and now it's been more than three days and he has done nothing as the fbi and other law enforcement have been a soft and it's judges that threaten and others -- how many people are going to die because of donald trump's lies around this issue, around this executed search warrant that merrick garland explained so clearly? >> it's a very, very good question. tim. again, you made the point that you didn't think he was boyd at the start of the week. how much of this is a kind of coherent's legal standard, they're racing, when you look at some of the lawyers that he's put up on fox to represent him. how much of it is coherent legal strategy? how much of it is just firefighting, eric trump throwing stuff and seen with sticks? >> maybe, we've been talking about this long enough that you know i don't think the word strategy and donald trump belong in the same sentence. he can barely play hopscotch,
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much less three dimensional chess. he has a long history of routinely stiffing his lawyers. usually does not get best in class attorneys to represent him. he has so many things coming at him from so many different avenues legally from the january six inquiries to the district attorney, to the new york state attorney general, to the fulton county, attorney in georgia, to this investigation now, that their heads must be spinning. the reason it is spending is because donald trump is lawless and he is a grift or and and a bitch will lawyer. all of that combines to create a perfect storm -- a lawyer who wants to represent someone, he is almost an represented at this time. >> tim, before i bring david back in for a last word, tim, one word you missed. one descriptor you missed in that list, lisa raised the point, the inciter of violence.
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we are now seeing the intelligence briefing that my colleague kelly o'donnell has today about threats against the fbi, against family members. this is donald trump inciting violence again. >> and against the judge. a sitting judge. the judge who signed off on the search warrant. he's now the target of antisemitic attacks. and by the way, there's pattern recognition there, because trump did it against judge curiel. at the trump university hearings. he publicly smeared him. and he did it in the most racist way imaginable. donald trump is a wrecking ball to american values and institutions that people should hold dear, but he has put into play. that's one of the hallmarks of the trump era. >> david, we're out of time, but every time i've spoken to on the show before, it's always been about almost police violence, george floyd. we talk about defunding the police. how surprised are you as a black civil liberties lawyer to
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hear republicans say, let's defund the fbi? >> not at all, right now. but to be honest with you, mehdi, along the same lines, we need to be more worried about the fact that two of those cases that we're watching on the jurisdictions are being led by black women. ag james, up in new york, and the da dawn in fulton county, and they will not bow to the nonsense of why they're claiming light on trump should not be prosecuted. be for they start talking about defunding, they need to cut -- >> okay, guys. please stick around. you're not done yet. up next, someone once, that if you're innocent, why are you taking the fifth amendment? that same person did plead the fifth, more than 440 times in a deposition. you will not guess who, but first, richard louis is here with the headlines. hello, richard. >> good evening. stories we're watching for you the summer. the senate intelligence committee just sending a letter to the department of justice and office of the director of national intelligence. there are requesting that they provide the committee with the classified documents that were in the search of mar-a-lago and
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an assessment of potential risks to national security as a result of their mishandling. those are exact words. this comes from a spokes person from committee chairman, mark warner. also tonight, a man facing two counts of murder now, following a killing spree in northeastern pennsylvania saturday. officials say the suspect rammed a vehicle through a crowd killing one, and injuring 17 others. he's also accused of fatally beating a woman before officers apprehended him. now, salman rushdie is off a ventilator right now and talking after he was brutally stabbed on stage in new york on friday. his agent said his condition is improving, but the road to recovery will be long. the alleged attacker pled not guilty to attempted murder and assault charges this weekend. more of the many hansen show after this break. e many hansen show after this break after this break
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invoke their fifth amendment right over the course of a four-hour deposition? if you're donald trump, the answer is more than 440 times. that means mathematically speaking, he pled the fifth nearly two times a minute during his questioning on wednesday, in laetitia james's office. this comes three years into the civil investigation into the trump organization's business dealings. it's hard to overstate how significant this is. a former president being deposed by a state attorney general. the story would be our lead in any other universe, but here in this history making moment in our universe, the earliest we could justifiably talk about it was halfway through the hour. if that's not a telling indication of trump's current legal state of affairs, i don't know what it is. my expert panel is back with me, david henderson, lisa graves, -- legally, what does it mean for the ag civil case that the president refused to answer so
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many questions, and pled the fifth so many times? >> the point of view is this, in a criminal case, you have the right to remain silent. but in a civil case, you have to answer questions. if you don't answer questions, and that case goes to trial, you're pleading the fifth is information that the jury can consider when they are assessing your guilt. pleading the fifth is probably the smartest thing for him to do. he is facing, what we equate to multi district litigation. he's facing legal battles in new york, and georgia, and d.c., and what you have to keep in mind is that if he gives a deposition, he can't keep his lies straight, there's nothing to stop authorities in new york to send that transcript out to georgia, when he has to answer questions out there. it brings to mind what abraham lincoln said about lying, most people can't bring it off, because they don't have the successful memory to keep their lies straight. that applies to president trump. >> funny you should mention that, because tim o'brien and i have discussed in the past, when you and trump got into
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some legal back and forth, i think we can call it. how he struggled with that deposition. this is a man who lies in every's breath, as i mentioned at the start of the show, but he runs his mouth when he should run his mouth. he cleverly does not run his mouth when he is under oath, because he realizes what is at stake. right, tim? >> he chose to take the fifth here to protect himself. when we deposed him into that in the seven, we had him into back-to-back sessions, to eight-hour depositions under oath. december of 2007. my attorneys cut him lying on over 30 different instances. from everything from how much money has businesses made, to how much he got as a speaker. how much he strolled his condos for, and we just kept sliding documents across the table to him that proved that he had been lying repeatedly, and in a serial fashion.
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again, because donald trump is a pathological liar, embellishing in exaggerating, because of his own ego, he is an attorney's worst nightmare in a deposition. the best thing you can hope for is that he takes the fifth, because if he didn't, he would create more of a problem for himself. let's now remember, if you take the fifth to not incriminate yourself, and trump has repeatedly said in the past, only monsters take the fifth. here he is now, seated in front of the a new york attorney general, and he takes the fifth scores and scores, hundreds of times. i think that this deposition ultimately is going to be the turning point in her case, on her way to indicting him. i could be wrong about that. but i think that the lesson from all of this in the deposition is that trump's own worst enemy when he is under oath. >> lisa, it's a civil case, not a criminal case. but we should point out, this
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is a big deal. to have a former president being deposed by the attorney general of new york state, invoking the fifth amendment, as tim pointed out, to prevent self incrimination, hundreds of times. i don't know where we put this in the political, historical, even moral context. >> i agree, eight mehdi, and it goes back to what you said at the beginning of the show. it's such unprecedented times where that would be the lead story. if all of this other stuff hadn't come out about the other investigation of donald trump. i think that when you have somebody invoking the fifth in the way that he is, it is more than [inaudible] he cannot tell the truth in this setting, or any setting. what we are seeing is that the final meltdown, perhaps, maybe i want to be optimistic. just because, he doesn't have the courage or stamina of
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hillary clinton, who sat through those benghazi hearings, hours and hours of hearings, answering every question asked of her. donald trump can't answer hardly any of the questions that are ever put to him, and certainly under oath, because of the jeopardy he would place himself in to be repeatedly tried for perjury. relying under oath. >> it's funny how they keep wanting to bring up the emails, but they don't bring up that comparison, what you just mentioned. the difference between trump and clinton in terms of answering questions. david henderson, tim o'brien, lisa graves, we thank you for your cooperation. what do alleged financial crimes, election interference, and a defamation trial all have uncommon? donald trump. my 62nd rent is next. plus, don't forget that you can listen to the mehdi hasan anytime, free, wherever you get your podcasts.
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tonight. the fbi and department of homeland security have released a joint intelligence bulletin warning then -- law enforcement us by the bulletins says quote, some of the threats are specific and identify and proposed targets,
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tactics and weaponry in the fbi noticed that personally identifying information are possible targets of violent such as home addresses, identification of family members a submitted online as additional targets. this is after a man allegedly rammed his car into the capitol barricade and shot and killed himself with officers approaching, the suspect has been identified as a 29 year old delaware man. the capitol police said he fired shots in the air but nobody else was hurt. it's unclear what his motives work. on thursday, a man armed with a nail gun was killed after trying to breach the fbi's field office in cincinnati. yesterday her group of armed trump supporters gathered outside the fbi field office in phoenix, arizona, protesting the search on trump's home. they were reportedly carrying assault style weapons. where are republicans who always claimed back the blue? nowhere, of course. neither trump or the gop have condemned these attacks and threats. joining me now to discuss is
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olivia troye. she was an aide to former vice president, mike pence. worked on homeland security in the white house. olivia, thank you for coming back on the show. we always seem to talk when the circumstances are situation is dark, i'm sorry to say. it is dark today. your reaction to this joint intelligence bulletin warning of attacks that may be coming. the fbi, the way of the fbi's agencies family? >> yes. i expected to see something like. this i'm glad that they've seen something out there, because earlier in this week when i saw what trump was saying and why many republicans were saying and texts were going out by the republican party saying things like the fbi's coming for you. they're coming for you next. when you're out there saying that to americans around the country, you are setting a very dangerous precedent. you're putting a target on the law enforcement's head. you're putting a target on these fbi agents and a target on their families.
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it's disgraceful. i think there should be no room for it and politics, but look, they have done this before. we've seen this show before. we've seen what happens when they arrive. we've seen how they drive the narrative forward. now we are seeing it play out across the country. i have no doubt that we're going to see more incidents like this. i know we've talked about this before. you know i care lot about this because it's so upsetting. >> olivia, let me ask you the question that i asked you in the wake of the last election and the wake of the insurrection. is the former president of the -- the former president of the united states is inciting domestic terrorism? >> no. words matter. when you are a leader and you have all these followers, you have a responsibility, especially with someone who has a track record of saying things, of saying words that are then posted on social media, posted
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on the dark web, posted on the far-right. right before people go out and carry out these acts. so you are encouraging this extremism across the country. and they found their leader in him. he emboldens it and unfortunately it's coerced the entire republican party with it. it's not just about one man anymore. it's others who use their own pulpit to perpetuate the situation. >> yeah. it's not just trump, of course. he has in his enablers and followers. right-wing media in particular have been downplaying these attacks and attempted attacks. many say merrick garland and the doj don't want them being criticize. they don't want the fbi being criticize. we are fine with criticism, but have a watch in with the say. >> they're now going to try to play the victim after they occupied donald trump's home. a military occupation. >> you've got the fbi
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monitoring social media for threats. that's the quid lens of monitoring every sporting event for heckling. you're not allowed to say anything about the fbi, because they're not crooked, even though they planned evidence. >> put aside the fact that there are ongoing attacks while this rhetoric is being produced on the right, for example, in cincinnati. did you ever think the gop, the party of back the blue, which so brazenly, shamelessly, quickly, not just abandon the fbi, but downplayed violent attacks on it in realtime? >> yeah. woodland forsman is useful until it's no longer convenient. then it becomes an inconvenient truth. so i think what you are seeing here is the consistent's pivoting of we are pro this until it doesn't actually work out. we call out on the lies and the truth comes before us. then we say we're not --
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know we're going to target certain people. this is all so disgusting. some of the people -- i saw the fbi today, i'll say this, can you imagine what would happen if we were back in the summer of 2020 and there were black lives matter protest outside the fbi or latinos armed right outside? what would happen? it would be shameful outcries across the republican party. people would be going off about this. i haven't really heard anything like that, calling this out as wrong. i'm not sure. maybe i'm missing, it but i haven't seen anything. >> it's a good point. before we finish, we have 30 seconds left. you have the attack on the fbi in ohio. on salman rushdie, on the capitol today. we are living in a scary and dark age of political violence, aren't we?
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>> yes. that is exactly it. i have no doubt this will continue. i'm concerned about the midterm elections, watching all of this player. i think as long as they continue to speak in this manner and encourage it, we are in for a very dark, dangerous time ahead. >> olivia troye, stick around please. i'll talk to you again at the top of the next hour about the biggest story right now, which is of course the trump search. later tonight, at 10 pm, msnbc presents love and the constitution. it's an insiders look into the life of january the 6th committee member, congressman jamie raskin. a documentary follows raskin for more than three years as he fights to defend democracy during donald trump's presidency and his second impeachment trial. tonight at 10 pm eastern on msnbc. and streaming on peacock. we will be back in a moment. aming on peacock we will be back in a moment. it's dr. scholl's time. our custom fit orthotics use foot mapping technology to give you personalized support,
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for the next hour till time tonight. and we have a lot to talk about. congresswoman susan wild is here to discuss president biden's best migrant office yet and how democrats can maybe capitalize on that ahead of the midterms. plus, one year since the u.s. withdraw from afghanistan. from the long and disastrous history of america's overseas intervention. but first, how trump's week went from bad to nuclear. pleading the fifth more than
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440 times during the deposition and a judge denying the trump organization's request to put out a criminal case against this former cfo, and of course the fbi search and seizure at mar-a-lago. so much to get to the next hour of the many hassan show begins right now. of the many hassan show begins right now. >> i'm many house, and back with you for another news alanel since. on thursday. u.s. attorney general a merrick garland stepped in front of the cameras of the justice department to announce he personally approved the decision the secret warrant to search trump's florida home and that it was filing in court to have

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