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officer gives you recommend, please exit the car, you should say yes, officer, no, officer. okay, officer. >> wish you would have complied a whole lot earlier. >> bad decisions by a cop. those decisions would not have been made of the prep did not run away. >> just comply, please listen. >> we did a report on this on the program last night. a lot of reaction from you. jackson says they went from back the blue to attack the blue. amanda terrell talks about the standard of law enforcement and the justice system. how it has been clearly documented. to keep track of what you say and write to us. i appreciate a lot of what we have heard. will have another expert update on that story. right now, time for the readout with tiffany cross. cr >> tonight on the readout. >> replacing george this week as my key financial officer, alan weisel berg.
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if you think george is tough, wait until you see alan. >> how do you feel, sir? >> are you going to testify? >> how things have changed for alan weisel berg. from a guest spot on the apprentice to a five month sentence in prison. the judge who approved the fbi search of mar-a-lago says he is inclined to release some of the affidavit. the same judge receives anti- semitic threats from trump's followers. he cashes in on the red, making millions of dollars. reports from ukraine that russia might be planning a false flag disaster at a ukrainian nuclear reactor complex. good evening, everyone. i'm tiffany cross. we begin with new developments. many, many, many, many legal troubles starting in a florida court house.
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the judge says he is inclined to unseal some of the affidavit used for the search of mar-a- lago. justice department reactions that it will not undermine its investigation. judge 100 approved the warrant. responded to interest from several media organizations to release the documents. the justice department has until thursday to submit redactions. a top counter intelligence official argues that the investigation is in its early stages. that releasing the affidavit could jeopardize several witnesses. a spokeswoman for the former president said afterwards it should be released unredacted. it's worth noting that while his attorney was in court, trump did not submit a motion to unseal the document. in the meantime, nbc news has learned that the fbi team is still sifting through the documents signed his letter, separating documents covered by attorney-client privilege and material irrelevant to the investigation. but what is clear is the probe is that the documents will and
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over the former president for a while, just like his other legal troubles. let's get into those. today in a new york court, the formal chief financial officer for the trump organization pleaded guilty to 15 felonies. admitted that he made a scheme to avoid playing taxes on special, off the books perks. he will serve five months in prison under a plea deal requiring him to cooperate. testifying about business practices starting in october. without the deal, he faces up to 15 years in prison. there is the ongoing investigation into january 6 and the efforts to overturn the 2020 election. a grand jury subpoena was issued to the national archives in may for all the documents provided to the house committee. noticing the request that they might be following the lead.
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they believe that evidence of a crime may exist in the documents i turned over to the panel. it is important to note the subpoena is not related to the separate investigation and a classified document and the fbi search of mar-a-lago. trump has so many legal exposures, at this point, it is seriously, truly hard to keep comfortable spring and some brilliant legal minds to help with that. joining us now, katie fang. msnbc legal analyst . and it professor at the university of alabama. former u.s. attorney and quite the dog mom. happy to have you both. let's start off with you, joyce. explained to our audience while of this matters. we can start with the judge who is inclined to unseal part of the affidavit. is that a good idea? >> it's a good place to start, tiffany. this is a surprise, i think. people who are career federal prosecutors expected the judge
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to keep this motion, this search warrant affidavit entirely under seal. now the fight begins to see just how much of it will be released. cut to the chase. the bottom line here is nothing good happens for the former president of parts of this affidavit are released. what they will establish is the probable cause that doj had to search his personal office at mar-a-lago. this really cuts against the grain for federal prosecutors. they like to protect their investigations. doj argued here that giving the public a roadmap could possibly cause witnesses to be intimidated. could permit people who are interested in short-circuiting this investigation to do so. but ultimately, the judge -- and it might not stay in the hands of this magistrate judge. his ruling likely to be
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appealed to a district judge. perhaps even further up at the point in time or the affidavit is delayed. that will be some weeks if not months down the road. ultimately, it wont be very nice for the former president. >> i don't think any of this will be nice for the former president. that brings me to the new york times. the doj subpoena, the same documents that they handed over to the january 6 committee. the implication being that there is evidence of a crime. your take on that latest report. >> it's always important to know when they are making the move. we are always critical about the transparency that comes from the doj. i am always fond of saying it is the biggest law firm in the world. limitless resources. enough people to be able to throw stuff at and always have something. we know that the doj is making moves that we were not aware of. it obviously raises eyebrows and makes us wonder why. the key message is the one that you had at the beginning of the segment. this investigation, this subpoena, is totally unrelated to the one we are talking about right now which deals with the
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classified documents and the handling of them by trump at mar-a-lago. the fact that we have yet another parallel investigation being conducted which we are now made publicly aware of, and the fact that this subpoena happened back in may, leads us to believe that perhaps, the doj, with merrick garland at the helm, is a little further ahead then maybe we have given him credit for jik. and that trump is underestimating him. >> he has been quite methodical. i was one of those people saying wtf when it came to the doj. it is interesting to see how this is all played out. i do not mind eating a little crow when we have to, when justice prevails. let me ask you. before we move to weisselberg, the fact that trump is pretending that he wants the affidavit unredacted. his lawyers were in court. the did not ask for that or make that move. is this a publicity stunt? if you say no, release
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everything, knowing that they may not release it, it makes him looks innocent to his millions of blind followers. but do you think he actually wants the affidavit released unredacted? >> he does not know what is in the affidavit but that it got federal law enforcement into mar-a-lago, into his home. if he is thinking logically, and i think if is doing a lot of work in the sentence. but if he is thinking logically, he will appreciate it is not in his best interest to have detailed evidence that the doj put together in this search warrant affidavit released. and tiffany, and something that we would do well to focus on here is that unlike the january 6 investigation, where we really don't know who the targets of the investigation are, it seems likely that they are looking at the former president, but we don't know for certain. in this case involving classified documents at mar-a- lago, we know that he is at least subject, if not target of the search and the investigation because of the fact that one of the places they specifically obtained
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information was the personal office. places where he and his staff have access. like a very direct line towards the president. if he is thinking logically, he will not necessarily want evidence connecting him to documents that should be retained in a secure fashion. he wants want that connection made for everyone in the public to see. >> the keyword if he is thinking logically. i agree. if is doing a lot of work there. on to weisselberg, who as you know, cut a plea deal. he says he is not going to implicate donald trump in his testimony. michael collins says, we don't believe you. you need more people. take a listen. >> i disagree with that. i will tell you why. they're going to ask him questions. they already know the questions they want to ask. the questions they are going to ask, if he answers them truthfully -- which if he
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doesn't, he is really a fool. he is looking at spending the rest of his life behind bars. this will ultimately implicate other people. not just donald, but other people at the trump org and their business circles, as well. >> was ole berg is in his 70s. he is looking at 15 years. do you think he would risk more time? he's got the plea deal. you think you will implicate donald trump in his testimony? >> we are always holding on, looking to see whether or not he will be willing to flip against donald trump. consider the following. joyce, i know, would agree with me as a former prosecutor. he had the option of going to trial. he said no. he has been offered this plea deal. he could have taken a deal that involves him going to prison and that's it. but he had his plea and is five months in jail at rikers are contingent upon him providing truthful testimony at the trial in october of the trump
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organization. to michael collins point, you can put a company in jail. the company is operated by humanoids, people. there have to be people that were doing the wrongdoings of the company. and it was not just allen weisselberg. weisselberg has the pressure to have to implicate people, maybe including donald trump, when he testifies in october. we know that donald trump was the head of the organization up until 2017. the indictment starts as far back as 2005. by default, you're going to have a huge net of different names. not just him going into the trial in october. >> what you said makes me wonder. even if you think you want implicate donald trump, what does that mean for eric and other people who were part of the organization, or affiliated or in the periphery of the organization? what information do you think weisselberg might offer ? >> yeah. this is a very confusing plea
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agreement for jik many prosecutors. katie points to some of the elements of it that could lead us to wonder what exactly is going on here. in the federal system, when folks plead guilty, they have to disclose all of the information that they have about anyone, no matter who it is. they don't get to choose. that is not necessarily true with these state investigations. particularly in the manhattan das office where they have more latitude to cut deals. but the fact that weisselberg is willing to testify against the organization, but reportedly not against trump. there is so much identity there between the two but it would seem almost implicitly if he is discussing these beneficial financial deals that he got, the logical question is who authorized the. and who ultimately authorized that? it has to have been donald trump.
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that is the testimony that they would need to complete a case against trump. we have a situation where the other things he is smart enough to lie on the witness stand and is perhaps willing to face longer time in prison than the five-month steel if he is caught. or maybe he hopes he can say he does not know. i don't know if jared and yvonne cut trump are realistic possibilities, but there is something going on here that we would not usually expect to see in a case like this. >> on it comes to family, i don't know how loyal the family is to each other. it is reported that it could have been a family member that informed the fbi. the agony of not knowing who it is, that might have been, what do you think, katie? do you think it is possible it was a family member who informed on him? >> a case of frito, i would say.
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the reality is we have been talking about this warrant since last week. we talk about this stuff off- line. you have to have fresh information for a search warrant. it cannot be stale. somebody has to have real-time knowledge about the existence and location of these documents. it can't be premised on information from months ago. who else would know better other than someone who was a family member? frankly between us and the rest of the world watching the show, i don't worry that the man staying up at night freaking out about who is going to turn in into a snitching to the feds. they are all self-serving, looking out for their own eyes and want to save themselves first. this is why it is kind of a head scratcher. maybe he looked at him as more family than his own blood. ultimately, the search warrant being unsealed leads me to be concerned, though. is the identity of an informant included within that information? does that run the risk of physical harm, danger, or something to that informant?
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>> one thing to remember, while all of this is happening, the trump family is raking in millions of dollars off of all of these legal lows. we will definitely keep talking about it here. thank you. i will see you saturday morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern standard time. looking forward to it. and it joyce, thanks so much for being here. coming up next, the old familiar graft. trumps breaking in campaign contributions by playing the victim. something he is skilled at. no let up in the dangerous rhetoric from trump and his supporters. we'll get into that next. the readout continues after this. this.
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amid the fallout of the mar- a-lago search committee reporting shows it u.s. magistrate judge bruce reinhardt, who signed the affidavit, is facing a, quote, storm of death threats from right-wing extremists. the associated press reports that his home address was posted on right-wing sites along with anti-somatic slurs. the south florida synagogue he attends had to cancel it's friday night shabbat services. this is all part of a broader attack on law enforcement. federal agencies are warning that threats and acts of violence have skyrocketed in the aftermath of the search. it is not just coming from dark corners of the web, but from the top, being donald trump himself. the former president shared an article on his true social
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network, describing the fbi as a fascist organization. the reporting from the washington post shows he has raked in millions by fundraising off of this very red. bombarding supporters with more than 100 emails asking for money, using phrases in bold and all caps like they broke into my home. they're coming after you. and this is insane. on the last point, we can agree. this is insane. so much for lowering the temperature. republican lawmakers for the most part have been radio silent. failing to condemn the attacks or call on trump himself to stop. some of the extreme members of the party, like greene, even egging it on. let's talk about this and let's bring in the former senior director for counterterrorism. also an associate professor at the university of michigan. very happy to have you. i know you have an office in the . violent threats against the fbi make us less safe. for jik someone who worked at
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the fbi, what is your overall reaction to this report and, and explain what you mean when you say it makes us all was safe. >> yeah. thanks for having me on. my bottom line -- and i have been saying this for the past week with several interviews, that this is outrageous. the fact that the fbi and its personnel now feel like they are under threat from extremists and people who are really angry over the search that was now a couple of weeks ago. it's one thing for people to demand the fbi to be held accountable and transparent when it makes mistakes and does things wrong. we have seen unfortunate examples of that over the past few years. with individuals in the organization. what happened a couple weeks ago, executing the search warrant, was not the fbi operating outside of normal bounds or doing anything illegal. they're doing their day to day job. the point was to say that as
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the fbi got out, a lot of pressure and staff are concerned. there was an attempted attack last week in cincinnati. this has the potential to make the country less safe, because the fbi is there to keep the country safe. every day. and the more this goes on, the more it could potentially have a chilling effect within the organization. as a former official, i am very concerned. >> it's interesting hearing you lay all that out. we keep saying this could be or this is what could happen. i feel like what could be is happening right now. he has millions of armed supporters who he can manipulate at the drop of a dime. we saw that play out on january 6th at the u.s. capitol. it was an attack on the united
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states government. we are seeing it play out at fbi field offices. at this point, it's challenging to say what is going to come. we have to do with the reality of what is happening now. what should we as individuals do to prepare? and what should the infrastructure of the country do to prepare for potential mass acts of violence, like we saw on january 6, like we saw with the group of men tend to kidnap governor whitner in michigan a few years ago. >> the rhetoric has to come down first from elected politicians, as you mentioned earlier. but also, the rhetoric that is just out there in space. might not be coming from politicians, but a wider group of people who are angry and upset. within that pool, there is a much smaller of people who are willing to act out violently. have to deal with the rhetoric. people have to be held accountable for putting this kind of toxic rhetoric out there. but people also have to understand that if they do try to mobilize the violent action like the person did last week in cincinnati, or someone tried earlier this week in pittsburgh. there are consequences for this
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. you can be arrested for making threats. you clearly will be arrested if you try to attack fbi personnel, or like in the case of the cincinnati person, attack and fbi field office. this is not a consequence free thing that people are engaging in. if they're willing to go to the extreme levels, there will be consequences of those actions. >> you are saying that we have to deal with the rhetoric. i agree with you, but there is not really rhetoric that we can deal with. you have millions of people turning into a propaganda network every night. as if that were not bad enough, that's an extremist network itself, you have these fringe pop-up outlets from aune to newsmax. then you have the social media component. the train has left the station. there is no dealing with the rhetoric. at this point, we need serious conversations around preparing for actual violence. people keep saying a civil war is coming.
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i would say the civil war is here. i don't mean to be hyperbolic. we can look at what has happened in the past week alone since all this has happened. we've had two people tried to declare war with fbi field offices. at this point, i don't think we're going to pack up our bags and go home and its income by all. from a law enforcement angle, which would you recommend the infrastructure of the country do? not everybody has the security of capitol . >> they put out a bulletin last friday. within my former world, folks know there is a threat environment out there. i would have to believe that dhs and the fbi -- i happened to work for both -- the right steps are going forward both in terms of physical security of people and also ramping up efforts to make sure that if there active plots or threats out there, they can be disrupted in advance. that's probably how it's going to be handled on the government side. on the average everyday american side, just trying to be a responsible citizen. if you're hearing this rhetoric from a neighbor or a friend or
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somebody like that, engaging in a conversation to try to cool things down. right now, yes. the atmosphere in the u.s. is very heated. hopefully, we can de-escalate things. but in the meantime, i do believe there will be these attempts and more loan offender type of attacks that we have seen over the past couple of weeks, where people try to act out violently. i don't think we will see large- scale acts of violence. hopefully, i am right on that. >> we hope. >> is are harder to pull together. but single offenders will be the most likely thing to see for quite some time. >> i hope you're right about not seen large-scale acts of violence. i hear your point about having a conversation. i don't know if it's my ministry to have a conversation with a gaetz supporter. they have proven to be willfully ignorant in many ways.
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4 years of nuclear catastrophe intensify in ukraine were the largest nuclear plant is on the front line. but plant has been under russian control since march. it has come under repeated shelling with moscow and kyiv trading plan. i have officially confirmed that russia has told workers that the at the power plant at the sharp friday. a frightening message. to say this might be evidence that russia is preparing large- scale provocations. russia, in turn, is accusing ukraine of selling the plan. we have not verified the claims of other side. today, the ukrainian president met with leaders of turkey and the united nations as the situation turned critical. u.n. secretary-general minced no words about the dangers ahead. >> must tell it as it is. potential damage is suicide.
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>> meghan fitzgerald joins us from kyiv. it's wonderful to see her face. i hope you're safe over there. give us the latest. what is going on? >> reporter: tiffany, it's great to be with you. this is an incredibly serious and dangerous situation that certainly appears to be escalating, just within the last couple of hours. we heard from the u.s. state department, saying they are deeply concerned that russia is occupying this nuclear power plant. we know that the secretary has come out and said that the russians are using this power plant as a military base. ukrainian officials, based off of their intelligence, confirmed some 14 armored military vehicles parked inside the plant . russia is not confirming or denying that reporting. earlier this morning, as you mentioned, a russian military official accused ukraine of plenty of provocation at the plant. ukrainian officials saying look, this is russia laying out the groundwork so they can commit or create an act inside
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that plant and turn around and blame ukraine. keep in mind, the hose also threatened to shut the plant down. something that ukrainian officials that could be incredibly dangerous if done improperly. keep in mind, the biggest issue, what makes this so dangerous is a leak of radioactive activity coming out of that plant that could sweep across ukraine and throughout europe and beyond, endangering the lives of millions of people. >> that's incredibly frightening. thank you for bringing up the latest. please keep us posted. we will definitely come back if there is any movement. meghan fitzgerald in kyiv for to us. andy weber, former assistant secretary of defense for nuclear and chemical biological weapons under the obama administration. andy, we were just talking this weekend. i said i hope i don't have to
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have you back to talk about a nuclear threat. this later, here we are. you and i talked about this a few times on screen together. this is frightening stuff. i want to bring your attention first to this from the leader of turkey this is from the verified twitter account of the director of communications. essentially, he is saying -- he spoke at a press conference. we express our concern about the ongoing conflict around this nuclear power plant. we do not want to experience a new tunable case. how we, how close are we to experiencing a new tunable case? >> so much information, much of it unverified. clearly, the reactor is at the breaking point. workers have been essentially hostages reacting safely to nearly 6 months under the point of a russian gun, with a russian gun to their head. the stress of that is
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unbelievable. it could lead to a catastrophic safety incidents. more recently, the russians have come up -- russian military commander, no doubt, came up with the approval of the commander-in-chief, vladimir putin, decided it would be a great idea to state artillery at the plant thinking that ukrainians would not counterattack. they're using it as a safe zone for heavy military equipment and shelling from the plant across the river into ukrainian occupied territory. this is a disaster we have seen in the making for many, many months. one person in moscow needs to step back and avert this disaster by pulling out his russian military forces from this plant and making it into some kind of -- as the u.s. secretary-general has called for -- demilitarized zone, so we can avoid nuclear crisis. >> i don't have a lot of faith
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that one person in russia is going to do that. you brought up the ukrainian workers. i want to make it clear for our viewers. working in a very intense environment that way under those circumstances is exhausting. it is comparable to being an air traffic controller, working for hours on end with a gun to your head. or any other doctor, working hours on end with a gun to your head. it's virtually impossible to function that way. some of these workers worked at the plant have gone missing. could you have any idea or surmise what happened to them? >> the russian occupiers at this facility have become increasingly paranoid. their security forces are targeting specific ukrainian workers. some of whom have disappeared. for a fate unknown. it is outrageous. it is absolute barbarism. it needs to stop. the u.n. secretary-general today said all the right things.
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but without russian cooperation, this disaster will become inevitable. >> russia has made it clear, russia is standing alone on the world stage, save for china. they have locked arms. we don't anticipate vladimir putin is going to make the right decision here. we will all be watching to see what happens tomorrow. big picture, i want to ask your opinion. is there a world where vladimir putin is aiming and armed new at the united states and with him taking control of that, completely getting rid of the ukrainian workers, without help his efforts to do that? >> earlier in the war, putin recklessly threatened the use of nuclear weapons in ukraine. any use of nuclear weapons could risk an all-out nuclear exchange between russia and the united states. it is totally inappropriate, absolutely reckless to even be
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talking this way about using nuclear weapons in warfare. this particular situation at the plant could become a flashpoint in the confusion of a potential meltdown of the reactor and leakage of radiation . could be a disaster worse than fukushima, perhaps. but it is avoidable. the way to avoid it is to stop staging military forces on a nuclear plant and shelling ukrainians from that nuclear plant. the u.n. has to get involved. the iaea, which was denied access by russia, needs to have access to this plant. so they can understand the safety situation. >> a very famous movie, a local crimson tide, coco denzel washington, his character says
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there is probably a greater likelihood that the house flips and in the senate. the senate races are different. they are statewide. candidate quality has a lot to do with the outcome. >> you know it's bad when mitch mcconnell says you might lose. what was once supposed to be a favorable year for republicans, this report has declared control of the senate should be a tossup. the potential senate race between fetterman and oz said, quote, lean democratic. fetterman has been absolutely dominating dr. oz on social media for being a carpetbagger who still lives in new jersey. owning 10 homes and most recently, over a video that he posted of a shopping trip where he got the name of the
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supermarket wrong, but said he was shopping for cruditis. here is how fetterman responded. >> if this was anything other than a veggie tray, he is not your candidate. >> at the only struggling republican candidate. there is also judy vance, an ohio republican who they were already worried about. comments went viral that people in abusive relationships should stay together for the sake of their family. says those comments were taken out of context. there's also the georgia senate candidate herschel walker who has made a series of gaffes, too many to get into here. in a campaign cad, his ex-wife said that he had a gun to her head and threatened to held kill her. the first time, implying that there were other times.
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my friend, this is quite an interesting slate of candidates that republicans have put out. i'm curious to hear from you how much of a boost this is for democrats. because of pennsylvania does go blue, it would mean dems have a little less pressure defending some other states like georgia, nevada, or arizona. speaking of, how is herschel walker pulling so closely? we will start with the first one. >> all you got to do is listen to what mitch mcconnell said at the top of the segment. that clip you played. that is a little maga gop cya. i didn't do it. i didn't recruit these bad candidates. he is acknowledging what a lot of us are seeing in the polling and what the money is saying, too. that the republican chances of controlling and taking back the senate look very, very difficult now. i think, again, if you follow the money, for me, the biggest indicator is when the senate committee that the republicans control, they suddenly pulled tens of millions of dollars by
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schedule. it is a reaction to some of the fact that these duds, extremist candidates, are just not closing the sale. it's what has them panicked right now. >> here is the things that are concerning me. i hear what you're saying. it is find that that is something that mitch mcconnell is concerned about. however, i think about rampant voter suppression happening across the country. i think about partisan poll watchers. i think about these folks who are running elections, who have perhaps been emboldened since january 6. i wonder if this is not a fair playing field. could voters overwhelmingly different that what they're saying from the republican party and leapfrog over these tactics to suppress the will of the people? >> there has to be a way to get that done, tiffany.
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fundamentally, written, what's on the ballot this november, let's not make any mistake about it. the liz cheney result this week made it crystal clear. it's not between democrat and republican. it's between democracy and fascism. but you are right. the republican playbook is to rig the system and make voting the most difficult thing possible. you're asking a lot of these democratic candidates to win in states with you talked about targeting certain voters, we've talked plenty about black voters. in 2016. but especially targeting latino voters. you know my hispanic married heritage month special a few months back in october, we talked a lot about that. and they said it's such a huge problem. with spanish language ads with
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disinformation, and misinformation, and we are seeing, since the abortion and roe v. wade overturned, we are seeing a bit of a shift among latinos who are shifting away from the republican party for that ruling. i don't know, but i want to hear from you. because i hear that some of that is geographic. the latino communities a big umbrella. there is no latino vote, there are latino voters. >> that's exactly right. and it's all infection of where they are, geographically, tiffany. again, the big earthquake that has changed the dynamic of this entire race, sure, the inflation reduction act is gonna help. biden has had a couple of strong weeks, he's turned is look around, his approval waiting is going up. but what is -- the supreme court's ruling ending reproductive freedom when it comes to the roe v. wade decision, and hispanic voters are saying to the republican party, in the polling we are seeing and others are picking up on, that they went too far. that they overreached, and even despite the fact that many
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hispanic voters, yes, personally, tiffany, when it comes to the personal perspective, may have a more pro-life perspective, that does not mean that they want to see the government making these decisions for other women and families. and that is why you have seen that hispanic vote for the democrats at the national level stabilize, and if anything, increased back to 2018 levels, which is where that blue wave propelled democrats to capture the congress, and have a counter punch to the trump administration in the white house. and those are the conditions we are starting to see now as we go into these final last two months. -- >> i think you make a good point, therefore none. we've talked about this plenty, races are often on the margins, and there are still pockets of communities that have no outreach, like the a api community, latino voters to, and the into community, we've seen this but the alaska natives. and some of the states here
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with a large native american population. so i hope people are paying attention with the rising majority of america my friend. for none, i think i will see you on saturday at the cross connection, right? >> if you don't see me, they're all be watching. yes, my favorite weekend show by the way, across hitch, at least one of them. >> thank you for anand. i will see you saturday morning on the cross connection, and thank you for being with me as i fill in for miss joy reid. and what's coming up next, wisconsin is -- the perils of backing trump's big lie. we are back in a second. re back in a sonecd. if you have age-related macular degeneration, there's only so much time before it can lead to blindness. but the areds 2 clinical study showed that a specific nutrient formula can help reduce the risk of dry amd progression.
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a good case study and just how disastrous the big lie has been for the republican party, but no further than wisconsin. the state president president biden won by 2100 votes. this is the current incubator for the republicans close to do certify the 2020 election results. this is happening despite multiple nonpartisan reviews and audits on that election and wisconsin that found zero evidence, zero, of widespread fraud in the battleground state. none. but, that hasn't stopped republicans from launching a taxpayer funded investigation largely inspired by the arizona audit. yes, wisconsin republican party led by the states assembly speaker thought it would be a good idea to waste about 1
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million tax payer dollars on this wild goose chase. now, last year, close higher -- lead that investigation just hours after donald trump donald trump accused him of participating in a cover-up of the elections. yesterday, i wisconsin judge provided a scathing review of gableman's work, and, yes, it ain't pretty. he admonished a woman for accomplishing nothing and failing to produce weekly reports, failing to conduct witness interviews, and failing to gather any data at all. gable to try to avoid scrutiny by giving the employees code names. that's what's the wisconsin's -- gableman was fired after he and trump turned on loss for breaking the law. voss now claims that gableman
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could lose his law license. the costly venture was said, to be, quote, worthwhile. and [inaudible] stripping voting rights, and strengthening their legislative power. what a mess. sounds like all the gop. but this is what the big lie gets you, i would like to note that this fall, wisconsin voters will get to decide whether they want to elect more in election deniers like republican michaels who is looking to unseat the government or senator ron johnson who is being challenged by democrat lieutenant governor mandela barnes. the choice is yours. all right, that does it for me, that's tonight's read out. but don't go anywhere because all in with chris hayes starts right now. arts right now. >> tonight on all in -- >> if they do indict him, that doesn't render him ineligible to run. or even

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