here today to talk about long. covid it is always great to talk to you. please stay safe. that does it for me! i'm zerlina. you can find me monday through friday streaming on peacock through the msnbc hub. be sure to follow us on facebook, twitter, tiktok and youtube. more news coming up right here on msnbc up right here on msnbc this is the katie phang show live from miami florida, we have lots of news to cover and lots of questions to answer so let us get started. one of donald trump's attorneys claiming his client's fourth amendment rights were violated when the fbi search mar-a-lago and they plan to file a legal challenge quote very soon. we will dig deeper with legal analysis from a former federal prosecutor. plus wagons and for the safety of fbi agents as one florida house candidate says, that if he is in charge, residents will have permission to shoot the feds on site. asked about the former fbi

special agent, trustee walter about these growing threats. and governor ron desantis, sparking even more controversy as he increasingly tries to consolidate power. one judge even comparing his state to the stranger things upside down. florida congresswoman, debbie schultz is here to weigh in. i love that in more, straight ahead. and i get saturday morning to, you i am katie fang and we began with new reaction from donald trump. to the fbi's unprecedented search of his florida home. the former president announcing that he is taking new legal action against the doj, claiming his fourth amendment rights were violated. and bc's julie tsirkin has the detail, julie good morning what do we know. >> well katie the president has

been saying multiple times that he wants a full offer dated unredacted, on steel to that more people can see what exactly get into the search in his home. overnight however his lawyers, -- file action to do just that, take a listen to what he said. i >> this will be the fourth amendment, phase we will weigh in very strong and very hard on behalf of the president and will be attacking the search warrant. >> katie as you, know the fourth amendment of course attempted from having the property, -- confirming when his lawyer said posting on his own platform, saying that is right been violated at a level rarely seen before in the country. arguing this break-in of his home, that's what he calls it happened right before the midterm elections. suggesting this was politically motivated, so far the media has

taken action and saying that this affidavit should be unsealed. the judge should be the very one that first authorized a search of president trump's home in mar-a-lago. and it did say that he does think that parts of the affidavit could be unsealed. of course the president and his team arguing the entire thing unredacted should be unsealed. that department of justice has time, federal prosecutors to propose redactions to a judge he makes any final decisions. they do have concerns for multiple reasons and one of them for the safety of those who are involved. and the search of their home, i also want to mention that former vice president pence, was asked yesterday whether he had taken any classified information. he said he did not. something that typically would not be notable is because of the search. involving the former presidents home. >> julie tsirkin, thank you so much for giving us the latest updates on the affidavit and the search at mar-a-lago. and coming, up we will dig

deeper into why so far donald trump appears to be all talk and no action when it comes to releasing the affidavit. and later, on i will talk to a former fbi agent about the dangers of potentially releasing footage of that mar-a-lago search. now we are moving on to ukraine where the government there is raising concerns about a possible attack on a nuclear power plant. that russia seized in early march. russia told plant workers, not to come to work on friday. ukraine state nuclear company says, moscow plans to disconnect that nuclear power plant from the ukrainian power grid. those most raising concerns over dangerous russian provocation. and bc news correspondent has more from ukraine. >> overnight, there was more shelling about ten miles from this operation nuclear power plant. with local officials saying that russian artillery and grad rockets pummeled the area. which religious underscores the

heightened level of concern right now. at that nuclear power plant, as both ukrainians and russians have been predicting some type of provocation there. we saw yesterday, president putin spoke with president macron of france. and agreed in that phone call to allow un inspectors to visit the site. so, far we don't know when that will happen or how soon russia will allow access. other russian officials have said it would not be until a week or so into september. there are demands in the international community that inspectors be allowed on the ground right now. i spoke with under secretary of state body jenkins probe washington who deal with russia through immediately handover the zaporizhzhia plant back to ukrainians. and if not police allow the militarize own around the plant. russia said neither of those options have that -- jenkins also told me that they are hearing reports that the ukrainian nuclear workers who

were onset at the plant, -- are not being treated well. and are under duress which is obviously not what you want when it comes to operating the largest nuclear power plant in europe. the state nuclear company has told pregnant women and children living in this region to get out. they could be at heightened levels for radiation. this region is not the only area of ukraine that is experiencing fierce fighting with more reports overnight of attacks. and in the, east as well as in the south and including in ukraine's second largest city of kharkiv. farther north, there are old who newport abdul-jabbar x in crimea. unoccupied russian territory. that appears to be ukrainian and talks in the latest several ukrainian stripes in russian occupied crimea. and the last week and a half or so that is really underscored ukraine's efforts to launch a counter offensive and duress that territory from russia. as we get into the winter months and ukraine tries to

prevent this conflict from being a frozen conflict and a stalemate. our thanks to josh lederman who's in ukraine in a back to the united states where vanessa bryant, the widow of nba star kobe bryant gave emotional testimony in court on friday. she and another family are suing l.a. county, over the circulation of crashed set photos, showing the remains of kobe bryant and her 13-year-old daughter gianna. soon, a jury will decide if bryant was victimized by the photos. raf sanchez reports. >> a very emotional day of testimony from vanessa bryant in federal court. she spoke not only about the day back in january, 2020. when her husband and daughter were killed in that helicopter crash. also the day a few weeks later when she learns the sheriff's deputies other first responders, had taken pictures of charred remains at the crash site. and we're sharing them amongst themselves. she spoke about the sense of betrayal that she felt, from

first responders who she trusted. her lawyer said those photographs were eventually spread to nearly 30 people. they were shown around in a bar, they were shown around at an awards ceremony banquet. and now the defense in this case is l.a. county itself. they counties lawyers argue that vanessa bryant cannot have suffered emotional distress from photographs that she is never actually seen herself. and which were never posted to the internet. but she counters that every, day she wakes up not knowing whether today is the day that those photographs are going to make their way online. she says she is especially fearful not her youngest daughter who is too young to remember her father, kobe. her sister gigi will one day see those pictures on the internet. which is a really harrowing thought, bryant was the last witness for the plaintiffs. they case moves over to the defense. now we have heard already from the l.a. county sheriff, we

will hear from the l.a. county fire chief. we are expecting this case to be with the jury probably by the end of next week. back to you. >> all right, our thanks to rob centers for the latest in that story. coming up, the trump organization's top money man will have to serve time at rioters after pleading guilty to tax fraud this week. the question, is for how long and will he end up implicating donald trump? trump's former fixer, michael cohen went through a similar situation. see what he has to say next. plus, a florida court says a pregnant teen with no parents and no job is not mature enough to have an abortion. but she is mature enough to give birth and razor child on her own? at 16? i will break that, down it seems really a logical and that ruling will be explained by a retired judge familiar with these kinds of cases. that is coming up. that is coming up. i typed in grandma's name and birth year...

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now over the fbi's mar-a-lago search? his lawyer says the trump legal team is now preparing to file a motion claiming trump's fourth amendment rights were violated during the search. we are also just days away from potentially learning new details about the affidavit justifying that move. that doj has until thursday to propose redactions. it is argued that releasing the document would compromise its ongoing investigation. -- trump's lawyers in court case and point his attorney at thursday's court hearing said that she was only there to observe the proceeding. when asked one trump's legal team did not file a motion to expedite the release of the document, she said this.

>> you had parties from both sides of the aisle, of course liberal media outlets coupled with conservative watchdog groups. really together on the same side and so we were curious to see how that played out. of course you know, reserving our rights to try something outs in the future if we want to. we really chose to see how he would play out. >> legally, nonsensical and i know that shane lawnwood who's joining me now, former federal prosecutor and legal analyst with andrew agree with me. i will not put you on this by just quite yet. trump seems at this one out, never filed a motion to intervene. trying to do anything about that affidavit. we saw it played out a few days ago in court. why is trump's legal team continued to hold off taking a position on the affidavit in court? >> i think probably, the reality was there and afraid of hunger saying that release could be. and so they are confident, that

lightly it is not going to be fully and sealed. by the time those redactions were made, it will basically look like one giant solid black box at that point. i think they want to do the posturing that they want a release. in fact they don't, once it comes out in some incredibly redacted form. now of course the redactions, this is what they are trying to hide. i suspect this with the real strategy is. so to your point, that one of the doj prosecutors had an open, court the redactions are going to be so extensive. -- social trump and the public in america be prepared to be disappointed? >> i don't think trump will be disappointed, it is to the advantage. i think we will be because you know, we will be dying to see sort of the juice here details. that is a very reasonable wide t.j. would not wanted to be

fully disclosed. it has that very sensitive information, settling about the human sources that is very dangerous for them. and also if there is classified material involved, they're certainly very sensitive material at the highly classified level sounds like. that's certainly not the kind of thing that you will have her go out into the open that way. the fetal purpose of it. being productive, i think we are gonna be disappointed, will not get to see it. >> let's talk about some recent legal posturing that is coming out of the trump camp just let yesterday. you've heard the sound i know, one of the lawyers for trump's legal team is not promising a fourth amendment based challenge. to be a doj, sort of mar-a-lago. the doj theory this could come anytime. now he said hours, it is been hours, i've been seen anything. what are your thoughts about this new claim that will be some fourth amendment motion? i am very baffled about the timing on this. i love to know your thoughts

are on this? >> i think -- it's as you know not at all uncommon to file a challenge with the emotion to suppress. saying there something wrong with the search. and that the revenue for that would be to suppress and documents. that is false and pretty much every single criminal case. of course it's a little bit early to be doing that, there is not an actual criminal case against trump yet. the fact that they use terms like we will file a very strong legal challenge. sounds like the parity in trump's language. and at this point is their challenges really going to relate to the unsealing, that's totally relative boom to the fourth amendment issues. they can only be trying to suppress something, i'm not actually sure at this point that it is the right time to do that. it be vein usual to see it this earlier in the case. there is no case. >> we know there was a lot of the trump legal team doing the rounds on some very trump

friendly news outlets. people like lori ingraham though right, questioning why there's been a delay by the trump legal team to actually do everything. do you think it is just reactionary? the thing that always, we might have been caught holding the back a little bit here so we need to kind of catch up and show the public that we are actually doing something on behalf of donald trump. >> i think this reactionary, i think looking at it from the point of the prosecutor as well as the defence counsel, it just looks like a very disorganized shouted to write. now they seem to be flailing about, trying also to different ideas out. it is probably a fair amount of internal conflict as to how they should proceed at this point. that is the read that i get and it is reactionary in there's not a very coherent theme. i one moment, they are talking about this essay unconstitutional search and the rights have been violated. another moment here trump talking about how you actually declassified all of the information. there is nothing to look at, they cannot make up their mind on what to do on it.

>> i have about a minute left before i let you, go i do want to ask you quickly about the trump organization's top money man, allen weisselberg. he pleaded guilty to the 15 counts of tax fraud. trump's ex lawyer michael cohen told me yesterday, is inevitable that weisselberg will end up -- when he testifies in the trial in october against the trump corporation. can we expect weisselberg to bring down others in the trump family other than just donald trump? >> i think we can feed testifies truthfully. i think the difficulty here though, i have to say conviction is a conviction but this was very well orchestrated by weisselberg's people. they basically made the prosecution blink, it's a very narrow cooperation agreement. he just has to testify truthfully. contrary to what some people may, think he is still going to have a lot of fifth amendment arguments available. can i think he's admitting guilt to as what he personally did. every size the talk about with other people dead, what others

in the organization that, he will have an argument that can implicate him in further types of criminal activities. it's a pretty narrow situation, he is obviously gonna do is tarnish to protect people in the organization. every testifies truthfully, that information will be damaging to others including trump. >> that is between five months and records of 15 years in new york state president, i think weisselberg is gunning for the five months and. rikers thank you so much for joining me this, morning it was a pleasure. and coming, up the fbi is under threat. i safety concerns for a law enforcement escalates due to dangerous, republican rhetoric. one gop candidate for florida state legislature is throwing fuel on the fire with a policy proposal so outrageously violent, you would think reliving in the middle ages. i will speak with former fbi special agent, tracey walter who joins me next. o joins me next. w, there's skyrizi.

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enforcement has long been a crucial talking point for conservatives. as you're learning after the mar-a-lago search, and really that idea has its limits. as yourselves nbc news that donald trump is now considering releasing surveillance footage of fbi agents seizing documents from his home. the video would presumably show the agents faces. some of the names have already been published, in an unredacted version of the search warrant by far-right media outlet, breitbart putting a target on the back of those agents. and despite an unprecedented number of violent threats against the bureau, and the wake of the surge, trump's allies continue to fan the flames. on wednesday trump showed an article on his true social network describing the fbi as a quote fascist organization. now, he has been raking in millions of dollars off of inflammatory fund raising emails.

like the one describing the search as an infringement of every american citizen's rights. to be clear, it is obviously not. as rhetoric and then used to spread, a gop candidate for florida state legislator tweeted this week that under his plan, all floridians will have permission to shoot federal agents on site. as you can see, his twitter account has been permanently suspended. as well as his instagram and facebook accounts for similar post. so much to get into for joining me now former fbi special agent, tracey walter. she is the author of the book, the unexpected spy. tracy, thank you for being here this morning. what do you make of the latest threat? the one i just showed on screen and talked about by this guy running in office in florida? have you in your career in the know you are a former fbi agent. you have been involved for a long time in law enforcement. have you seen anything like this before? >> thank you so much for having

me. katie no however i did want to really point people towards we had something similar actually happening in the early-ish to mid 90s. when you think about things like ruby wage and waco, oklahoma city. the dialogue was similar to what we are seeing now, this idea of the black booted, black suited and i've heard that same quote. that was first used by -- in 1992. really around ruby ridge and we saw what happened with the bombing of the oklahoma city federal building. i think this is really, really disturbing. this is not the first, time into seems to be the first time in my career. >> so tracey, what happens if somebody like that guy who's running for office in florida, ends up in office. as the fbi have a contingency plan to deal with somebody who decides it open, direct threats of harm to their agents? >> you know, it's interesting because it's such hypocrisy right? you have a making such direct

threats. printed threats to use violence on twitter. that at the same, time he talks about how you know the fbi is illegally tracking people. nothing is asians in a way put a target on his old back. well enforcement has to track him. you know you have a right to free speech but you don't have the right to make violent threats against specific entities and people. >> so let's talk about a potential chilling effect. i understand you take an oath of service when you are an fbi agent, when you are law enforcement. these violent threats are serious, as we know that fbi office in cincinnati with the armed man right? the armed protesters outside of the fbi office in arizona. our fbi agents will be scared to perform their duties if they continue to face these types of threats of violence? >> i think that's an interesting question because you know we are seeing right, now i know it is not the same thing. we are seeing right now sort of this teacher shortage and we

wonder why. it is because teachers don't feel safe, some teachers feel attacked and i would imagine that we may have the same thing in terms of talent pool. with fbi agents, fbi agents perhaps being fearful to perform and the scope of the job in the normal scope of the duties. the news agencies like breitbart who is doxxing them. when the addresses are supposed to remain private. they become fearful for the families in this has a ripple effect. to their kids schools, to that espouses places of employment. things that we don't think about. >> you, know there are some republicans were out, they're also spreading hyperbolic and false information about the irs. -- more money to go after tax sheets. for example, senator ted cruz calling them biden shadow army. and senator chuck telling fox news, they are coming with ak-15's to quote shoot some

small business person in iowa. tracey, at some point you have there because the concerns for the promotion of violence against law enforcement? >> i respect the first amendment, there has to be aligned there right? >> i think you're, right i felt the same way and i respect the first amendment, it is okay that you disagree with more irs officers. that is all okay but violence really across the line and when i think we are seeing is the bag to rid of it and really we have people in positions of authority basically granting permission to people. as ideas that the deep state and i know you said exist on the fringes. now it's really existed on the mainstream with permission being granted. 50% of this country thinks that they are heading towards a civil war. i said this before, it becomes difficult to go after it because we don't necessarily have a name for it. and i feel that using this kind of violence and further ins of

ideological goals, you get political or social environmental platforms across. really is domestic terrorism. because it does not have that name, associated with, it becomes somewhat okay. there is no consequences for it. thyou're not tracey it's appropriate, i think always people t's platforms that are given to them and for me, i want to call out the hockey. the gop really does travel on a platform, of being pro law enforcement. we have seen that backed the blue, i'm a former prosecutor myself. i am pro law enforcement. however, in this instance though, when law enforcement is doing its duty. like executing a ballot search warrant on the, residents perhaps defending and protecting the members of the american public. sadly, it is the wrong thing to do. tracey, what is the message that you want to send to the american public, you served as an fbi agent. you are on the front lines of things domestic and international in terms of terrorism.

do you have a massive she want to send? >> you know i think the message i want to send this law enforcement, the entire law enforcement community is really their purpose. it's to prepare to obey united states. i have absolutely no doubt in my mind, based on the things that i did at the fbi. this was a valid search warrant and that it was served properly. and in accordance with the law. there was no wrongdoing on behalf of the fbi here. i served under two different politically, ideological administrations. and i will guarantee you that the organizations that i worked at, neither one of them had a political goal in mind. other than to simply enforce the law. >> former fbi special agent, thank you for taking the time to share your experience and your insight with us this morning, we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and coming up.

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states primary, where we will find out who will challenge him this november. desantis election placed force making its first arrest on thursday. taking 20 people into custody for illegally voting in 2020. of course, almost 11 mid-lane floridians cast a ballot for president in 2020. the votes of 20 people wouldn't change anything. that fact seemingly unimportant to desantis, as it looks to boost his profile among republicans and conspiracy theorist. those of us came the same day, though by the florida judge declared that desantis's stop woke act which were strict race based conversation and business and education, the judge found that to be unconstitutional for violating the first amendment. he then compare desantis florida to a netflix sci-fi drama. saying quote the popular television series stranger things there's crowds appellate dimension containing a distorted person about our world.

recently, florida has seemed like a first amendment upside down. there is and is facing blow back this week from that state prosecutor he recently suspended because angela, warren that said attorney refused to enforce florida's abortion ban. and supports transgender rights. that state attorney, andrew warren is now suing rhonda scientists in federal court to get his job back. he is saying that his own first amendment rights have been violated. for more, we have the honor being joined by congresswoman debbie walz them in shorts and florida. also the former chairwoman of the dnc. congresswoman, thank you so much for being here. and presidents at this, morning we know you are busy but we appreciate you taking the time. >> good to be with you in south florida katie. >> here is the thing, desantis moves that he makes seem to have the intent of intimidating voters and suppressing their rights to be able to say and elect and do what they need to do. what are your thoughts about what is happening right now?

>> you had the nail on the, head the other day, five days before an election here in florida, governor desantis around himself with a massive police force. to announce that they have arrested 20 people who illegally voted they say and the 2020 election. what else was that performance designed to do except to intimidate voters from showing up and casting their ballot this tuesday? this is a state in which we've had emigrants flee countries where they have had their votes suppressed. they don't have a right to elect leaders of the road. -- >> let's be clear, we have course only want to have legal vote counted. that is just an understanding, but you know i looked and i saw jeff brand as who is one of the sponsors of this particular bill or this law, basically say there was supposed to be a grace period that was afforded people the opportunity to make

sure that they had done right by the registration. don right by the voting status before any type of arrests were made. >> we were talking about voting, this is not a bank robbery, there is an adjustment fear that needed to be made. there is last confusion. once rhonda scent is forced through the law, that it was very confusing to people. making sure that we can educate people who have nearly had their rights restored, about who is eligible and what happens if you accidentally register. there is no force at that is being done by the department of state under rhonda scientists on the implementation of restoring rights. well they have that intentionally so that they can try to catch people in the act of trying to exercise writes about restored to them by the florida voters who pass the constitutional amendment. tsa that, no we will not have the most restrictive felony boating and their country. we will make sure that once you

have paid your debts to society, you get your rights restored. the most precious right, the right to vote. >> we have to talk about the fact that the santas suffered a loss dealing with the stop woke act being unconstitutional by a federal judge. we see that tongue-in-cheek about the fact that the stranger things reference about this being an upside down place. florida though is being inundated by these types of laws that are unconstitutional. it makes it a repressive authoritarian state. >> their car just between the democrats are doing well passing gun safety reform, making that community safer. making sure that the corporations pay their fair share, lowering the drug cost. rhonda sanders and republicans across the country going after teachers, going after gay kids, having the government takeover women's bodies by telling us what to do it. them that is a contrast going into this election in 22. hat iswell the judge said the or day was, no you cannot tell a business what they can do when

they want to train their employees to be able to work together better. rhonda scent is pushed through a law that said that we were going to prohibit corporations from helping people, work better together. that is not only unconstitutional, a first amendment but it's an american. he is trying to control every aspect of a society while democrats are trying to make sure that we can lower peoples prescription drug, costs make sure they get a good education, make sure we get the economy back on its feet. lower the gas prices and keep people safe especially kids in schools. >> i would be remiss to not ask, you are. here you and i are florida residents. we've always known about mar-a-lago hanging out in palm beach county, little bit north of where you and i live. what's your thoughts about what is going on in terms of this warrant that was executed at mar-a-lago? trump's response in kind of how it is creating even more of a fevered, very violent response from the gop? >> can he do remember a year

and a half ago into fbi agents were executed a search here in broward county. they were killed in the line of duty, republicans are calling for us to defund the fbi. their little using horrifically violent language about our law enforcement. we have to make sure the law enforcement are protected. they have the ability to do their job, keep us safe. and the irony of what republicans said about democrats attitude towards law enforcement. and what they are actually doing is horrific. i signed an oath when i first got sworn into the house of representatives, i will protect intelligence. classified information. you swear in, oath i sign my name on it. donald trump took classified, the most top secret classified information. and took it to his home, kept it in a basement with no protection whatsoever. he was not legally allowed to do that.

he did not declassify it and you know, unilaterally. for him to jeopardize law enforcement and use inflammatory language, about his supporters to use inflammatory language is outrageous. at the end of the day, again the contrast coming into this election is that democrats are focused on making sure that we focus on the kitchen table issues, lower the gas prices. make sure that when i go to the drugstore and i see a constituent standing on the line who cannot afford to bring him all of the prescription drugs because the cops are too high, republicans vote against lowering insulin cost i need a lottery vote against lauren prescription drug costs, not making corporations pay their fair share. we took on big pharma, big oil, big corporations and one. republicans are trying to take on law enforcement. make sure that they can continue to overturn legitimate elections. >> well, i run out of time which is horrible because i wanted to be able to speak to some more. we will definitely be, back congresswoman debbie schultz.

before we started this you and i were talking, it is to everything comes back to florida. florida, thank you for being here. and coming, up a stunning decision why a court in florida, they say teenage growth no parents and no job is not mature enough to have an abortion. but she is mature enough to be a mother? i will talk about it with a former miami dependency court judge. y cour judge. [dog barks] [dog panting] [dogs barking] [dogs growling] [dogs whimpering] (vo) the subaru crosstrek. dog tested. dog approved. [dog barks] welcome to your world. your why. what drives you?

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enough to have an abortion, but is mature enough to have a child? that ruling was upheld by a three judge panel. on an appeals court earlier this weekend. you guessed it, florida. in a position to the court, the team said that she is mature enough to make a decision. and that she is not ready to have a baby. she is fighting for her ged, does not have a job and the father is unable to help her. under florida law, and abortion

cannot be performed on a minor without the consent of a parent or a guardian. but in this, case the teen is perilous and in the custody of a state of florida. this week on my peacock show, i asked retired miami-dade county, circuit -- about her opinion on the court's decision. >> so i want to give you my opinion and tell you how i handled these cases. there may be something that we don't know. this dependency cases are all sealed. they are confidential. but with this, statute by the way i'm aghast the statutes. i am opposed to, that i think they put a burden on these minors that don't need to be there. most miners will go to a parent if they feel that they can. okay, i was pregnant as a minor. this was before roe v. wade and i was able to go to my mother and my mother took to new york where he was legal at the time. i was petrified, i was scared

to death to tell her. but i knew that if i went to, her i would not be kicked out of the house. i wouldn't be shamed. i wouldn't be beaten. so i was able to go so most of these minors will go to a parent and this matters parent less, she is in the custody of the state of florida. the guardian and the caseworker or at the hearing and apparently she lives with the relative and from what i can understand she did not have the requisite paperwork where in the relative gave consent with a notarized document. however, once in court from what i could tell from the opinion, she was able to articulate why she wanted the procedure. she was able to tell the judge, look the father is not involved. i have no money, i found a lot of trauma in my life. i have been re-traumatize

because of -- i am not financially, physically or emotionally able given my life circumstances to have a child. she in fact said, i considered having the child, i considered wanting the child. but i am just not capable. >> how is that not enough judge cohen? it sounds like a level -- >> that truth of the matter, that is maturity. when somebody and keep in mind, this minor is nearly 17 years old. those are not a 13 year old, this is a 17 year old who was coming into court and saying look, i have gone to the clinic. i have google the risk of this procedure which is very low and i've talked to the people at the clinic and i've talked to my guardian. i have talked relatives because apparently she went to the clinic to get information with the relative. i have come to the decision that this is not right for me at this point in my life. now apparently, i again read

this in the decision. one of the judges on the court said it seems that the key issue for the judge was that she was not really sure. well if she changes or, mind even if she has the waiver, she doesn't have to go. the waiver doesn't say you must go and get an abortion. it gives you the chance to do it. it says that you are considering pros and comms, you have the opportunity, now you have shown maturity to get this procedure. and to see counseling from family on the outside or from the staff at the clinic. >> let's talk about how time it's not an ally for this young girl. the opinion was ten weeks pregnant, when she came to the judge. with a handwritten position, no legal representation which is kind of an interesting factor here. and said i want to go and get this abortion.

we have a 15-week abortion ban in florida. the way that things work in the judicial process, one of the chances of her reaching a point in the pregnancy timeline. well >> as the 15-week ban in florida as you know katy, after 15 weeks, they have to travel out of state. in addition up until i think about 12 weeks, it may be less than that. i know it ten weeks at that, you can get a medical abortion. which means there are pills that you can take, you can go to a clinic and obtain those pills from a doctor, and then you can go home and have the abortion at home. very safe but if there is a complication, you could always come back to the clinic. she will be forced to now have most probably a surgical procedure. which is much more expensive and if she has to travel out of state, that further complicates

the matter. it just isn't, clear the judge in this case, the trial case gave the sea a woman a chance to come back into court. as if that's an easy thing to do. if she does go back into court, hopefully shall op for a lawyer. you are permitted to get a lawyer for free for these cases. >> stick around, after our show for velshi. velshi banned book club will tackle they satanic verses by salman rushdie. you don't want to miss, that we'll be right back after a quick break. ter quick break. like when i decided to host family movie nights. miracle-ear made it easy. i just booked an appointment and a certified hearing care professional evaluated my hearing loss and helped me find the right device calibrated to my unique hearing needs. now i enjoy every moment. the quiet ones and the loud ones. make a sound decision. call 1-800 miracle now,

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