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ndnu prepares you for careers in classes start year-round. advance your career at ndnu dot edu today. msnbc world headquarters in new york. welcome to the new report. we begin with new developments in the mar-a-lago search. this is from the doj. they talk about what could happen if surveillance video of the fbi search of mar-a-lago gets released. the doj officials say that the department would hope that caution and carry would be used by anyone with access to that footage. last hour, former trump lawyer michael cohen gave his thoughts on how trump could approach this situation. >> if they believe that the tape that benefited them, i promise you that tape would have already been released as

we are speaking right now. obviously, they know that it does not. there are thousands and thousands of cameras thrilled mar-a-lago. i can assure you that at the time the rate was taking place, they were watching the raid. they were watching the fbi agents going through the property. >> that comes as trump is now planning a new legal challenge. the attorney says the team is preparing to file a motion. they claim that the amendment right for violent when they raided his resort. donald trump thinks this will help him in 2024. some of his allies are not so sure. we are gonna break it down the team of reporters and experts. that is ahead. meanwhile, in three days, trump ally lindsey graham will have to testify before a georgia grand jury that is looking into election interference. a federal judge denies the republican senators laid its attempt to get out of that subpoena. he is, however, still waiting on one more thing that could

postpone his appearance. several provisions of the inflation reduction out have begun taking effect. president biden's earned it into law earlier this week. mike quigley told me how americans will feel the impact. >> there is it is going to have every day americans producing their energy costs, becoming healthier, and fight climate change. it is not just a big victory, this is the fact that we are actually coming to terms with the issues that our generation is concerned about. quite honestly, 30 years from now and we are doing this show, they will be most angry or happy about what we did or didn't do on climate change. >> let's begin with nbc's reporter. we have some new developments on the mar-a-lago search. julie, welcome, there's a lot to keep up with. what is the latest? >> alex, at the same time, the trump team is weighing to release the video from the

search of the mar-a-lago home, the same judge from that search is inclined to unseal parts of the affidavit. he is getting federal prosecutors a couple of days to propose new options we. know that from president trump 's team wants the sealed redactions. we know that president trump's attorney was on fox news radio overnight. he says they also want a neutral third party to review those documents that the fbi collected from mar-a-lago. take a listen to more of that. >> this is gonna be fourth amendment based. the litigation for judge reinhardt is all about the first amendment. it is the media versus the doj. we are going away in very strong and very hard on behalf of the president who never should have been subjected to the search warrant. we are going to be attacking that search warrant. we need a special master. that's a rare step when it comes to search warrants being executed, but this is something that we have to pursue. we have to get somebody in the middle because we are not going to leave it to the doj to tell

us that they are doing their filter surgeon that there are the guardians of what's privileged or not. >> yes he, also says that this could happen within a matter of hours. -- this could be the first major motion. the media, including nbc news, we are interested in an affidavit. unsealing parts of that, that is what the judge is currently considering. president trump, the former president sat on his social media platform, quote, it was illegal breaking. he is also confirming with his lawyers in saying that this is based on the fourth amendment. it protects americans from on authorized or unnecessary searches of their homes. the former president clearly believe that happened here. >> okay, julie, thank you for that. i want to bring in harry litman, a former u.s. attorney who is at the talking podcast. brian murphy, a former fbi senior executive, he is acting under secretary of homeland security under the trump administration. he filed a whistleblower

complaint. this is also a reporter with the wall street journal. welcome to all of you. sadie, you and your colleagues at the journal, you have done some wonderful reporting and all of this. let's take a look at just a few of your latest coauthored pieces. there are the headlines. there is this exclusive publish from this morning. it is looking at fbi director christopher wray's efforts to keep politics out of the bureau. i know that you contributed to this articles. it says that he did not address the mar-a-lago search in the interview. quote, people familiar with the matter say that he was involved in weeks of discussion with the attorney general, merrick garland and other senior doj and fbi officials about the decision to ask you execute the search warrant. we believe that it was a step that had to be taken to recover classified documents. >> did you learn, sadie, anything about the characterizations of those discussions? >> what we know about the fbi director and the attorney general is that these are two very deliberative people.

they understand the political ramifications of doing something like this. well justice department officials believe there is an urgent need to retrieve classified information from mar-a-lago, they also wanted to take their time and make sure they were doing everything right. as we are seeing right now, every action the data is being scrutinized. this is something that they forced. that is why they wanted to spend some time talking it out. you know, both of these justice department leaders are people who have tried their best to turn down the heat, the political heat on the justice department. they did so with little success because of actions like this. they knew that whatever they were gonna be getting into was going to be heavily scrutinized. that is why they took their time in deliberated for weeks. >> look, you might understand why this was not a deliberative in contempt of process. to you, harry, didn't the warrant suggest that there was an immediate need for the sweeping search? it could have been based on

urgency. did it require urgency? why was there a three-week delay as the discussions got underway? well, first of all, why was there many month delay? it is for good reason. they were really trying hard. they go down and visit the head of the national security. it was part of the doj. they served a subpoena. they then get their assurance once it has been served. now they have to pull the trigger. it is very evident, i i think, that there is a confidential informant there. they know what is going on. if everyone understands that is the reasoning for this search, they still somehow, you know, quibble with it. garland, ray, they talk it over to the doj. when you say they aren't quick, that means in a deliberative and quick way. i have been in these kinds of high-level meetings. you don't just say, okay, we're going in, they really want to make sure, look, do we definitely need it? is there no way to trust the

people holding it? they realize there wasn't. that is it. they had to go in. >> a similar question to you, brian, if this is our national security matter, address why they waited weeks to act. is there a good answer to that? terry just said that if there is an informant, if there is an informant keeping an eye on things, if they are communicating with the doj and saying it is all good right now, that would allow them the time to talk about this. could something have triggered a change in chatter? >> i think that it is hard to know that right now. there is a lot of fact that we still don't know. you heard reporting about that on the wall street journal. we have started to fill in some of those gaps. they are acting on many search warrants. they are involved in just as many. i think we have to kind of continue to wait and see where this goes. i'm sure there is a lot of people that went on to talk. they can't. there are just so many gaps right now that it is difficult to know the answer to that question. what concerns me is the level

of rhetoric and violence that we see in reaction to the search warrant against the fbi. that is unprecedented. -- they carry over into real world action. nashville we saw on the fbi in cincinnati. a startling outcome from this turn of events. >> yes. absolutely. thursday's hearing on releasing the affidavit, the doj lawyer argued that it should stay under wraps. he said, quote, another factor is the threat of possible obstruction interference in the investigation. he added that in this case, the court has found probable cause. there was a violation of one of the obstruction statues. evidence of obstruction could be found in a redacted version of the affidavit. sadie, how do you interpret this? does it mean that the doj has actual evidence of something? might that involve video? >> we have reported that the

search was prompted in part by some surveillance video footage. it showed the boxes in one of these storage rooms. i could certainly be part of it. we get the detail on the affidavit. it is definitely intriguing to think about what is in that document. that could contain a witness name. there are details about the investigation. the doj official who testified during that hearing said that it would be a roadmap for their next steps. just by getting not affidavit, getting that search warrant, we know that they found some evidence, some potential evidence that the crime had being committed. whatever is in that document could, you know, lead to -- it could reveal to the trump team and the public where the trump department is headed. this is a way that the justice department feels is potentially dangerous. >> trump and his lawyers may not know who the so-called mole is, right? here is the question, do trump and his lawyers do not know

what specific incident prompted this search? what raised alarms for the doj? who got too close to the declassified info at this point? >> i think that trump and his attorneys are saying that they don't know what prompted this search, they need more information. that is one of the central questions here. it is gonna be at the heart of the trump team defense. what exactly prompted this? who was involved? more dangerously, if the names of witnesses come out in an affidavit, if they come out in other ways, are those people going to be intimidated? that is one of the concerns for the justice department going forward. >> from a legal standpoint, harry, what do you make of the mansion in the court hearing about possible obstruction and interference of evidence of obstruction? all of that is being linked to the notion of probable cause. >> yeah. there was a nice little clue way he released. we have the words willful

retention. here is what i make of it. they did the espionage act. some people were thinking about that. they did 15 19 obstruction. that took a lot of people by surprise. what happened? i think it is clear now. they were asked, and this is a small part of the many factors of the espionage act and what it could cover, they were asked to give it all back. they refused. in this case, i think they lied. that is the language. somebody willfully retains a document that could hurt national security and fails to deliver it on demand. that willful failure to deliver, i think, is what has been zeroed in on from the many sections in the espionage by that statement. very quickly, trump will get all of this if and when he is charged. that is the way it works. they're early in the investigation. they went in to get the documents. all of that stuff comes to when

that is the fourth amendment. >> usually this is a thing that we are not so privy to. in this case, we are privy to everything. brian, let me ask you, when you hear potential obstruction with respect to these classified documents, what does that tell you from a national security perspective? >> again, i'm going to go back towards this. it is hard to figure this out right now. the instruction charge can go in different directions. previous guests we're seeing that as well. i look at it, i want to address what you asked for the colleagues here. we are sitting on the hair pin trigger here, right? the sources are trying to be protected. that is gonna be important. those contacts fear for the people who have healthy justice department and the fbi. they could obstruct the warrant. if they do become identified, from what we have seen before, people are threatening the fbi. as you pointed out, there are

threats that will likely come to those who participated. it has to be something that the doj is worried about right now. they're concerned that if those sources and methods are revealed, those individuals will be in jeopardy. >> yeah. yeah they're fine, surely, those names will be redacted. at least, in the short term. obviously, things get out, and we don't know always how they do. nonetheless, surely, that would be the first thing to be redacted, protecting the sources. >> i think you're right. but clues that would give people the idea that they could identify the sources are just as damaging, and it doesn't mean that those chasing those clues we'll be right when the names are redacted, and it's no less safe for those people who could be falsely or accurately identified as having been involved. that's one of the things i think the fbi, the department, or thinking about as they continue what's the release, giving judges. >> let me play something one of trump's lawyer said about security in that area where the fbi found the documents. watch. this. >> mar-a-lago is secure in of

itself. just getting on to the compound is hard, and then it was a locked door, and getting back down into the basement, there's security. you can't just walk down there. >> hang on, because a reporter at news nation described it as not as a basements, but as a storage room off of an interior hallway near the pool with boxes everywhere. the washington post noted the pool was a major part of the social scene and the focal point of activity as part of mar-a-lago states they business. so sadie, what can you tell us about that storage area and the level of security there? >> well, the one thing that stands out to me is that during the negotiations, the trump team was having with the justice department, but justice department sent lawyers a letter asking them to put a stronger padlock on that door, indicating that at some point, at least, it wasn't a super secure location and the justice department directed trump lawyers to put a padlock on the door, and not to touch anything until further discussions.

that happened in june. that was two months before the search. it's anybody's guess what's changed in that amount of time. we do have some indication it wasn't the most secure location. >> brian, do you have any sense of an understanding of the security arrangements near the pool and the level of alarm that that would raise, potentially? >> i do not. nothing that's been more than publicly identified and discussed today. i do say that collecting and storing classified documents, in general, has a set procedure out there. if people make mistakes, or they violate that, it puts the national security in jeopardy. whether or not this was a secure location, i don't exactly know -- what's in the public domain, but wherever you store classified information, the utmost security and cameras will take, and the policy that and procedures which have been around for a long time for good reason, should be followed. >> harry, what are your

expectations of the redactions of the doj? will we, rather, learn largely nothing from the affidavit because of those redactions? as judge reinhardt called, it meaningful gibberish? that's arguably an oxymoron, but meaning less generous, which could be redundant. >> that's what the doj said would be, they anticipated this argument. the magistrate judge is a longtime doj person before he took the bench. he understands that when he seems to be sagging is icy chunks of this, that you could maybe reveal. and doj will try to play ball. but it's endeavor to pull that a document, if it's released, and doj could still appeal, we'll have black, black, black four pages and pages and little words, and will lead into the reason, i think, why trump folks are calling for full release, because they know that could never happen and they

will be set up to be aggrieved and point the finger. i will say very quickly, anybody who has ever been in its secure foundation could never mistake, you, know your phone, if you have it's around, the enemy could possibly read. if you go into one of these foundations, it's like going into a maximum security jail in order to read these things. i don't care whether mar-a-lago has three guards, one, zero, it's no possible substitute for the security that the national security demands. >> i'm curious, brian. can you verify that? i am reminded of a conversation i had with robert gibbs, press secretary for the obama administration. he said there are photos of convicted spies on the wall inside of the scif, and that's, wow. that's sobering. >> i think what harry said is true. i have, spent way too many hours inside the scif, no daylight, phone turned out. those are the policies of

procedures out there. for the, five in certain cases they have photos of former spy and techniques to remind people of the awareness they need to have so they don't violate those policies and procedures, because there are number of ways that they could take advantage of technology for insiders to penetrate. you have to be constantly thinking about what i hostile nation may do to try to gain classified information. this is not a new thing. we have been at this for a while. that's what i've seen before, the policy and procedures are out there, and people given the privilege of having classified information should follow those policies and procedures. >> harry lippman, brian murphy, and happy birthday to sadie, who i know you are celebrating. none the worse for the wear and tear of that celebration. i'm sure you enjoyed it. >> thank you. >> and expanding historic drought to dangerous storms, the perils of extreme weather facing millions of americans this weekend. that's all right next. plus, the latest numbers for you on our mass shootings tracker.

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the lapd released video of this huge mob ransacking that store on monday, grabbing snacks, drinks, cigarettes, anything they can get their hands on. police are still looking for those people involved. some new concerns intensifying across europe this hour, with the russian shelling of a nuclear power plant spurred warnings of a potential environmental catastrophe on a global scale. this dire situation comes as the u.s. announces a new 775 million dollar aid package for ukraine, delivering a slate of much needed military equipment. let's go to nbc's megan fitzgerald, joining us from kyiv. megan, welcome. what's the latest, first of all, on this nuclear power point? >> i could tell you, this remains an incredibly serious situation. ukrainian officials say they have intelligence that suggests the russians are actively working to try to shut that nuclear plant down. look, we have been speaking with energy experts who say that is incredibly concerning to them, because when you shut

down a power plant, it's a very sensitive process, even the smallest mistake could create a catastrophe. and enormous disaster. what they mean by that is that could cause a leak at the plower plant of radioactive material that could seep out, spread, of course, throughout ukraine and deep into europe. that is why you hear these officials really sounding the alarm. the un secretary general, who is in ukraine this week, saying that he wants to see international scientists going inside that power plant. you know that is the same sentiment that was echoed at a call yesterday between france's president, emmanuel macron, and the president of russia, vladimir putin. putin reporting, saying he is open to having inspectors going inside the plant. but russian officials say the timeframe for that would be early september. ukrainian officials are saying look, this is an emergency. this is something that needs to be taken care of at this moment. they are calling for inspectors

to go in now and saying that september is just too far away. alex? >> it is sobering, frightening, and all of that. thank you for sharing the details, megan fitzgerald. back in the u.s., extreme weather conditions are causing historic drought in the northeast u.s., as the region grows more desperate for rain. a stark contrast to parts of the southwest, that are being hammered by extreme rainfall. the risk of flash flooding. nbc's emily carats in drought stricken -- for us. >> hey there. signs of worsening conditions are all around us from formerly flowing rivers that are now trickling streams to what we have here. dry ground, crispy. grasp officials are urging row of residents to play their part and cut back on water uses as nearby sources of water nearly run dry. >> bone dry conditions that have long plagued the west, now gripping the east coast, too. brown grass, depleted rivers, and stunted crops, evidence of a brutal summer.

it's getting worse. >> the tree, just like a human, it's going to try to protect itself when it gets stressed. so, part of that stress is to drop fruit prematurely. >> keith bishop has witnessed the impact firsthand on his family farm in connecticut. parts of the state entering an extreme drought this week. >> so, as you can see, the berries are not the size of the dime like they would normally be. they also drop off the bush very easily. >> similar scenes in new jersey, under its first statewide drought watch in six years. >> this was beautiful cornfield. it was this tall last year by this time. it's beautiful! >> the ills of parched plants now blanket the garden state. the farmers are worried that without rainfall, soon there drops will dry up. with them, profits. >> i was asking my mother, have you ever seen? this she was like, not this bad. >> not a single part of massachusetts, rhode island or connecticut is free of draft. in new york, high temperatures and little rainfall have prompted officials to limit's water usage in rockland county,

where a heat water source runs low. let's reduce the outdoor water use. we can all do this. we all of green grass, but there is always next year. >> meanwhile, across the country, another kind of extreme. parts of the southwest could see up to six inches of rain. millions of people are bracing for flooding. in zion national park on friday, flash floods hikers scrambling for dry ground. similar conditions are expected this weekend. just as death valley national park reopens in nearby california, severe downpours there cost millions of dollars of damage to roads in facilities in recent weeks. historic conditions are heightening concerns around climate change. >> the west drought only exacerbates flash flooding concerns with that extra dry soil. it is easily washed away by precipitation. meanwhile, in the northeast, we are waiting for rain. water cuts are being implemented here in rockland county. residents can only water their lawns on certain days. restaurants are banned from serving customers water unless

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ask your doctor about shingles. a new twist today, donald trump and his lawyers compare legal challenge to the fbi -- fbi mar-a-lago search. donald trump says that he plans to file a motion later to the fourth amendment. it bans unreasonable seizures and searches. let's bring in a good friend. hugo, let's get into it. after donald trump's announcement, you tweeted this. hearing from some people close to trump that his announcement about filing a fourth amendment motion comes in part because inga ham rebuked christina bob,

one of trump's lawyers, for not falling a motion to unseal the affidavit. that made him look bad. what more can you tell us about this motion in the race behind it? >> it sounds like this motion is gonna be centered around some sort of way to get a special master appointed in order to review the material seized from mar-a-lago. i do think that the reasoning behind it is interesting. certainly, trump is working his way. it has been around 14 days now says the search took place. i kind of dug into this a little bit yesterday. it sounded like the former president was not happy with the way that laura ingraham ham from fox news pulled apart christina bob, one of his lawyers. he said, well, why did you file a claim or some sort of motion with respect to the redacted affidavit? from the docket, you cannot challenge it going forward. it seems like this is almost a knee-jerk reaction.

>> we don't know the extent of which the affidavit is gonna be unsealed. the cover lever -- the cover letter for the warrant at mar-a-lago has been made public. you tweeted about that. can you provide new information about the surge? do you have any information about what could be in the affidavit? >> it didn't give any information about what could be in the affidavit. if you generally speculate, the affidavit is going to contain evidence that allows the fbi to find they have probable cause to seize these documents. i think the cover that it was interesting. it provided us under description from the doj. they thought things were taking place at mar-a-lago. there was the willful retention of national defense information. that had not been previously spelled out. look at the u.s. coast have been violated. there was no description. >> on thursdays, you know the federal judge in florida

ordered them to submit the redacted version of the affidavit. before that ruling came down, you wrote an article ruling that the doj had asked not to disclose the document. the judge denied this request. how is the doj reacting to this decision. >> i think that the judge in this case wanted to show that there was some transparency. he was bending over backwards. part of this comes as a debunking. more presence than his allies. -- they said on social yesterday that this was an illegal break-in of his home. upon seeing part of the affidavit, not reviewing all of it, there was the statutory basis for going into mar-a-lago and seizing these documents. he is kind of debunking all of those changes. actually, that was a horrible basis to go in on. it was not just a political witch hunt as trump described it. >> according to the washington

post, trump is still trying to assemble a legal team in the wake of the fbi search. trump has denied those claims. you tweeted out a list of lawyers that have already signed on. that includes a former member of the doj's organized crime section. what is the significance of this trustee joining trump team? >> i think it is really significant. there has been a real push behind the scenes to get some serious lawyers on the team. he falls into that category. he is the head of the crown section with the doj. he was there for a number of years. he is quite experienced. he has a good resume. i think that his initiative shows a real seriousness for trump and his legal efforts. the other co-counsel on his team -- it was a former u.s. attorney. there is the fact that you have these two heavyweights leading trump's team. this is what was previously not there. >> okay. always a significant conversation with you. thank you. coming up next, this is why a

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reports the president thinks last week ceasing of top mintz from his residence could help him in a 2024 run for the white house. the article says the cascading revelations would typically crush any presidents politicians hopes, but trump may have, at least for, now increased his resolve to run for president while also giving him a paradoxical aura of calm, according to six people close to him. joining me now, mark libra, mitch staff writer at the atlantic whose latest piece is liz cheney, a republican from the state of reality. he's also the offer author of the book, thank you for your servitude, he's also an msnbc political contributor. mark, welcome back. it's trump reading this right? if he just trying to spin it that way, or is he just delusional about it? >> i mean, it's not just trump was trying to spin it this way. a lot of people have said that oh, this will help trump. this ensures him the nomination. i haven't really bought it. i think, in some ways, i assume there are some people out there who said well, i was tiring of

this guy. i was leaning maybe towards ron desantis or something like this. but now that this has happened, i must go back and be loyal to mr. trump. i don't see it, necessarily. so look. if that's the case, it's not much of a winning strategy, right? look, he's being investigated by all these entities. congress, fbi, theo jay, what have you, and now, of a sudden, the nomination is. his it's a strange strategy to begin with. i think this is the kind of thing that people say may be in a heated moment, in the aftermath of a story like this, we're not a lot of facts or no. ultimately, i don't know how a story like this we are as well when more facts come out. >> in the immediate aftermath, spin the strategy however you want to spin it or say it, the washington post reports that donald trump's political action committee brought in at least $1 million on two days after that audit, the eight search. so, what is just cast banana, as the washington post throws

it, says about trump's supporters? will they continue this level of support, considering trump's protracted legal battles? by the way, where does all this money go? >> well, these are questions that not a lot of people are asking. there is certainly precedent for this. this seems to be happening whenever trump feels under siege, whenever he gets exposed, whenever some level of investigation is being brought upon him. i mean, people do rally around him. it's their staying power to? that this actually reflects an initial spasm of loyalty? in response to its own kind of fundraising drive from donald trump the various organizations, or does that sort of level off again, once more facts are known? i think what's interesting here is how republicans have responded to him. it was certainly the off the wagons first, but you've heard a lot more trepidation, maybe qualified support, but not so much the full breath that we

saw it first. >> here's an extraordinary response as well. law enforcement has been the latest enemy among the gop and trump allies, and a city stream of post yesterday, trump said the law enforcement of our country has become that of a third world nation, and i do not believe that people will stand for it. then, he went on, never in our country's history is there been a time for law enforcement has been so viciously and violently involved in the life and times of politics in our nation. they have no shame. then, the gop leader mitch mcconnell called the attacks on law enforcement completely unacceptable, following last week's deadly standoff with that ohio fbi field office, the one with the male gun. i mean, does the gop's targeting of law enforcement and calls to defund the fbi, does that play well with republican voters? >> i mean, i assume that's within the cult of personality and the colt of victimhood that trump is surrounded himself with. i don't see it that's a winning strategy. mitch mcconnell sees it as a winning strategy at all, i it's not something, i was surprised

by the number of republicans who did sign on to a kind of an anti-law enforcement or fbi approach to this in the immediate aftermath. it hasn't been true to that point. look, i think one of the reasons that donald trump has survived as long as leaders mike mixed mcconnell, for as much as my complain about this now, have been happy to just sort of stand by and be bystanders while he gets away with so much, and they don't do anything. so, this is what my book was about, but ultimately, it's been the story of the republican party for the last six, seven years, and this is an example of the kind of awkwardness that results when you sort of let this play out as long as they have without doing anything. >> you know this red wave that some are predicting for the midterms? it kind of feels like it's losing momentum. we have the political report, it has updated its senate rating to a toss-up, rating changes in pennsylvania, colorado, and utah. trump backed candidates in

those states are also struggling. what is your take? >> my take is, look. i think it's hard to get a grip on the house. i think it always. is i think people in those races are hyper local and over reliance on who the incumbents are and who republicans know and so forth. but statewide, especially in purple states like pennsylvania and wisconsin and possibly ohio, arizona, candidates matter a lot more. it's a much more representative cross section of the electorate. and frankly, i think these sort of trumpy candidates can really cough up for you seats for republicans, and that's key. that's where mitch mcconnell lives, obviously, and the seat in pennsylvania, the seat in wisconsin, we see in the higher, this is incredibly central to how this senate is going to break down, especially with 50/50. and, the senate is where this battle is being waged. it certainly looks really good for democrats, based on the recent batch of polling, and

how lousy some of these candidates are conducting themselves on the republican side. >> so, last question here, relative to your conversation with wyoming congresswoman liz cheney, and her primary airy loss earlier this week. she voted with trump on policy 93% of the time, groped with him after his incessant lies about the election loss, which led to her primary defeat. now, she considers a 2024 presidential run. what do you think? many suspect that if he does run, she would do so as a third party candidates. does she have a constituency, or would hurdle simply be siphoned off votes of donald trump? >> i think she has said that she is a republican. i suspect she would run as a republican, because i think she has a pretty realistic approach to what our campaign might look, like which is probably not going to win. but if she serious about wanting to deny donald trump a second term, and even denying the republican party, denying him another nomination of the

republican party, the idea would be to play in the republican primaries, and even if you're not going to win, do some damage. try to get on the debate stage, just be a kamikaze candidate that hones in on the truth, and it's an uncomfortable place to be in, a lonely place to be in, as she's proved, but ultimately, it can be very effective. she's proven very effective at it. i think will be a fascinating figure to watch in the next few years. >> as argue, with these affected conversations. mark, thank you so much. no diary of and frank, and no bible. what's happening in the libraries at a texas school district? that's up next. that's up next riders! let your queries be known. uh, how come we don't call ourselves bikers anymore? i mean, "riders" is cool, but "bikers"...is really cool. -seriously? -denied. can we go back to meeting at the rec center? the commute here is brutal. denied. how do we feel about getting a quote to see if we can save with america's number one motorcycle insurer? should flo stop asking the same question every time?

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>> looks like the bible and an illustrated version of anne frank's diary pulled from the library shelves in one texas school district just as students are getting back to class. >> cut out your -- book >> the administrators of the killer independent school district in the dallas-fort worth area told their schools to review a list of books after they were reported last year by parents or others in the community for what they viewed as concerning material. >> we need to have the conversations, and there is no simple answer. >> other books that keller ist pulled this month? many titles that feature lgbtq+ characters, and one book by tony morrison. the books were removed by what districts considered they parental consent area until the process is complete. but the timeline for that process is unclear. last school year, such complaints were resolved by committees of teachers, and then as traders, and parents, and the book stay approved returns until this week.

>> all of the books that had passed the challenge committees were now being pulled back off of shelves because all of the outcomes were ultimately overturned. >> lanny hobbs is a killer parent who was on the book review committee for and franks illustrated diary last school year. at that time, the issue becoming increasingly heated, with parents on both sides sounding off at a school board meeting. >> just because some parents don't want their children to read a heart wrenching, eye-opening author but shouldn't mean that the opportunity is taken away for every child in the district. >> if they're allowed to read these specific, pornographic books that show nasty parts, whether it be heterosexual or, day it shouldn't be allowed. >> he says the old system worked well, and she thinks the new process lacks transparency. >> there was a really great system, a thoughtful system, put in place by the school district for us as a community to decide what to do with these books. and we did it and we came to a

conclusion that in the way that wasn't that unanimous conclusion, and this new school board came in and said, oh we don't like your conclusion. >> late last year, texas governor greg abbott told the texas education agency to ensure pornography and obscene content were kept out of schools. though no clear definition of either term was provided. sparking a slew of new guidelines across the state, like those in keller, where district officials told nbc news in a statement, these books could be pulled again for further review. the superintendent dr. risk -- wrote to parents, saying in part, i want to assure you that keller ist is not banning the bible or the diary of anne frank, and that he anticipates those two books will be back on the shelves quote, very soon. he went on to point out, employees have been attacked online and by phone over this issue. something parents like lanny say is not the answer. >> i don't think our teachers and librarians and staff are to

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