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good evening and welcome to politicsnation. tonight's lead, our nation, the hostage. right now, nearly the entire party of personal responsibility refuses to take any blame in the nearly two weeks since the unprecedented fbi search of donald trump's mar-a-lago estate in florida, turning up nearly two dozen boxes of government documents, some materials classified, some
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even top secret. the revelation that the search was part of a federal investigation into possible espionage violations has launched us into uncharted political territory. trump enablers that once called down the swiftest punishment for democrats facing -- they are facing now state and federal probes. they are either complying with them or forced to. and the party of both law and order has largely signaled that it is not -- but rather democrats and the biden justice department should trump supporters execute any of the violent threats against the fbi that have search online since the raid -- during which time a pennsylvania man was arrested for threatening to kill agents last week. while a january 6th and selection assist, armed with a
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semi automatic weapon, actually attacked and fbi field officer in ohio. and it appears that for a biden administration is still prosecuting and insurrection, and now watching extremist threats to law enforcement explode on social media and play out on our streets, intercession is necessary. the white house yesterday announcing that it will hold a major conference to address may shortly -- racially motivated violence. -- like myself. following the racist massacre in buffalo this summer. i can say that i look forward to attending as an activist, as head of -- but not as an american at this point in time. unable to promise, let alone -- that won't -- should donald trump ultimately be indicted.
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joining me now, congressman allen green, democrat of texas, a member of the congressional black and asian pacific caucuses. congressman, i appreciate you being with us tonight. given that you are among the first member of congress, probably the first, to call on donald trump's in preach meant -- i can imagine you have a lot to say about the developments over the last two weeks since the fbi search of trump's mar-a-lago. turned several sets of classified government documents -- that search revealed to be just part of a investigation of potential espionage violations. to be clear, the warrant does not tell us with certainty that in fact, trump is being investigated on espionage charges. but republican politicians and, of course, trump's legal team,
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are conjuring every kind of implausible defense for why his retention of top secret materials was permissible after leaving, or rather, being forced out of office. and this week, you had trump's lawyer call in for the release of the surveillance footage of the search. potentially exposing fbi agents to maga violence. echoing trump's own veiled suggestions that mayhem will occur if he is ultimately indicted by the doj. your response to this uncharted territory we are in, congressman. >> thank you so much, reverend. and i think you summed it up more than adequately. in fact, it's an exceptional summary. i would add that the ex president, if you will, is now contending that there may be an illegal search and seizure. and of course, we understand that this was something that was authorized by the court itself.
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and something that was given notice such that the agents who went there understood that there would be assisted and there was no breaking in, kicking down doors. it was actually what i would consider a courtesy that was accorded the ex president. the ex president understands or should understand, knows or should now, that he does not have the authority to maintain top secret documents. top secret documents if released in an unauthorized fashion, can pose a grave threat to national security. of this president has demonstrated time and time again that he will put our nation at risk, at risk so that he may achieve some personal gain. and i think that merrick garland, the attorney general, is acting in a very judicious fashion. he has demonstrated that he is
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a patient person, who looks closely at his empirical evidence before he acts. i do believe that the president will likely be the target and may likely be more than simply a search and a seizure of evidence. there may be more to come. let me go to another subject. yesterday, the white house formally announced its upcoming united we stand next month to combat violence extremism. i will be attending in my capacity as head of -- which along with several other civil rights groups from different groups, because it's different races that face hate violence -- we have been pressing the biden administration about the threat of violence right wing extremism since the buffalo massacre. my concern, which i share with these other leaders, is that whatever comes out of the conference is substantive and
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not symbolic. because while you can't constrain racist thoughts, the government can take steps to prevent racist violence on a massive scale. like buffalo, like the synagogues that we have seen attacks, like charlottesville. but that is a lot more complicated than holding hands and listening to each other. far as i'm concerned, you must do more substantive work to atone for all of us on the ground to come together with the president and others, raising his profile. what are your thoughts on this, congressman? >> the tone and tenor, reverend, is set by the person at the top. the top is where the buck stops, and that is the president. this president has demonstrated his desire to make sure that our communities are safe. and to dissent, with this program, he intends to allow people within the community, within the civil rights community, i call it uniting
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around the uniter. persons who have demonstrated a desire to prevent crime and promote healing. the president, i believe, is a person that is ideally suited for this type of program. because he has, over his time in congress, and the senate, demonstrated that he wants to keep our communities safe. i am honored that he has invited you and other human rights leaders to be there. this has been a part of your agenda since i have known you, making community safe. safe from not only the criminals, but sometimes the members of the constabulary who get under line. you have been encouraged to take on these challenges. and your being in the room will make a difference. >> and we must have the courage to denounce those in our own particular silos, races or religions, that may do hate crimes. congressman, are you concerned about the possibility of
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violent, if not fatal, police encounters between black people and the hundred thousand more police officers president biden aims to higher under his recently released safer america plan to combat crime? because that is a different kind of move. and many of us are concerned about police behavior. will more police enhanced by a lack -- black public safety in your view? >> this is a 13 billion dollar five-year program to put 100,000 police officers on the street. i don't want to see us just put police officers on the street. i want to make sure that they are properly trained so that when they are on the street, they will not only be respected, but also, uphold citizens the respect that they richly deserve. i am absolutely for making sure people are safe. but i am also absolutely convinced that we do need to train a good many more of our
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officers so that the encounters for simple traffic stops will not and in the loss of a life. so, if you're in my position, you have to have some degree of consternation. you really do have to have -- 74 years and seen the number of incidents that i've seen, and you have seen them as well -- we have to watch security, but we want safe security, with well trained officers, who will respect the constituents that they serve. >> congressman, briefly, i'm out of time, but among the reasons i wanted to have you on tonight, other than you are the first member of congress to call for donald trump's impeachment, is that you have, you are stewardship on a joint resolution recognizing slavery remembrance day for today. august 20th. moments ago, president biden issued a statement, thanking you and you are senate colleague, elizabeth warren, specifically for your work on that resolution. what is the significance of
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today in terms of the freedom struggle? >> well, reverent, i am so elated. we had our slavery remembrance day breakfast today. 1000 people in attendance. all of them there to commemorate the lives of those who were lost to this horrific institution known as slavery. and after the event, to receive an indication, and i have a copy of the statement in my hand, from president joe biden, marking slavery remembrance day. this is the first time any president has ever done this. we recently passed a resolution in the house. first time that it's ever been done. the historic significance of this is people will now have the opportunity to combat this big fabrication, insidious fabrication, of slavery being
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something as simple as involuntary relocation. we have a duty to ourselves and to those many generations that made it possible for us to be here, that made america the country it is. they are the founding mothers and fathers of this country to. and we ought to be proud to say that we are descendants of those who were enslaved, who made america the country it is. make no mistake about it. america would not be the america it is without centuries of unpaid workers, who built this country. this is our opportunity to combat the insidious prevarication's that are starting to surface to sanitize slavery. i do think the president for what he has done. i will be eternally grateful to him. this, coupled with what he did with putting the first black woman on the supreme court, makes him an outstanding president in the history of this country. he will be compared with all of the great ones in the long run.
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>> i join you in thanking him for both. and i thank you and senator warren for leading this effort. congressman, thank you for being with us. from texas to vermont, joining me now is congressman peter welch of vermont. currently the states democratic senate candidate. congressman, thank you for joining us tonight. -- cast senate control after november as a toss-up, citing momentum shifts in key senate races, pennsylvania, utah, colorado. and mitch mcconnell was at best cagey this week about republicans chances of retaking the chamber. here is what he said just two days ago.
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-- i think there's probably a greater likelihood -- senate races are just different. they're statewide. canada quality has a lot to do with the outcome. >> what do you think, congressman? we have all these trump backed senate candidates -- have a cost mitch mcconnell the majority? >> yeah, he will. there's no better authority than mitch mcconnell about senate prospects, especially from republicans. he used the term candidate quality. there is -- that is a euphemism. they have some losers running. and we have some tremendous candidates in these highly contested races. and also, there are some -- because we are not having a message just based on words. we're having a based on deeds. finally, after 16 years of serving in congress, working with al green, among others, we have prescription drug price
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negotiations to bring down the cost of prescription drugs for folks. we have the infrastructure bill passed. and we have the climate change bill passed and that is about making it affordable options for people who want to use clean energy. so, you are seeing the democrats come together and actually get things done. they will try to address affordability challenges that people are facing across this country. and the things we have done are good for you whether you voted for trump or you voted for biden. insulin that you can afford -- it doesn't matter who you voted for. that is really good. you will have some money to maybe get braces for your kids. i think we have accomplishments. >> let me go into that. the inflation reduction act is now law after president biden signed this spending bill early this week. with that, the united states has taken its largest step ever to combat climate change. more than 360 billion to reduce
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emissions and expand access to cleaner technology. you are running the retired -- who has been an advocate in the senate for climate action. and with that, this bill comes. i have heard you said that you want to continue that legacy on climate as senator for vermont voters. now, watching this, what does this entail, congressman? because many of us in black and brown communities have suffered disproportionately in terms of infirmities and others because of toxic waste dumps and other climate problems that have been overlooked. what does this mean on the ground for people? >> well, first of all, you're absolutely right. poorer communities, communities of color, have suffered the most. and here is the reality. if we don't finally safe --
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face the challenges of climate change, the suffering will continue and it will continue to be exaggerated for people of color in poor communities. what we have to do with climate change is a centrally get off carbon. we know that. but we need to make it affordable for people. to ultimately afford an electric car among other things -- that means you need subsidies to build up the market. you need to have options for homeowners to be able to affordably retrofit their homes. you know, to get to clean energy, we won't sell it on the basis of virtue. we'll sell it on the basis of affordability. that is a combination of government incentives through policy and then private market taking that on. and then building technologies that help us have affordability for everyone. and by the way, once we get cleaner air and cleaner water, that will be where everyone -- >> now, finally before we lose
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time, in addition to your senate race and the other contest, of course, vermont residents will vote in november on an amendment to in shrine abortion rights in your state constitution. five months after the reversal of roe. in a place like vermont, with no legal restrictions on abortion and a 2019 state law probably protecting access to the procedure, what would this amendment to that isn't already on the books and enforce, congressman? >> well, it's a statement of reassurance to all in the state of vermont that not only do we respect your rights, but we and shrine your rights and our constitution. so, there is no fear. and by the way, there's a reason for women in vermont and all around the country to be reprehensible. mitch mcconnell and others are talking about passing a nationwide ban on abortion. so, there is jeopardy here. and of course, we have the supreme court that is off the
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rails with its erosion of rights in the basis of this decision to take away a constitutional liberty for women could be applied to contraception, interracial marriage, so, this is a court that has really stepped backwards in this reversing the rights of americans. >> representative peter welch, thank you for being with us. after the break, who is really to blame for the fragile state of our democracy? it is not just the michael republicans. and later, what it will take for democrats to ensure they maintain control of the senate. but first, my colleague richard with today's top news stories. richard? >> good saturday to you. some stories we're watching. gunmen stormed a hotel in somalia, leaving 20 people dead. and at least 40 wounded. the islamic extremist group al-shabaab claimed responsibility.
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-- the hotel c.j. is more than 24 hours long and still ongoing. russia and ukraine, each accusing each other of attacks on a ukrainian nuclear plant located on the front lines of the ongoing war. russia took control of this plant in march. it is europe's largest nuclear power station. world leaders fear an attack on the planet could cause catastrophic levels of radiation. more politics nation right after this break. after this break
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been pushing the big lie. the completely unfounded claim democrats rigged the 2020 election. most republicans in congress were not willing to stand up to protect the right to vote. and now the battle is playing out in the states. this week, florida republicans were accused of intentionally targeting black voters, when
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they enacted new voting restrictions last year, after the 2020 election in which turnout surged, according to a court filing by the justice department, the new restrictions limited absentee ballot drop boxes, placed regulations on third-party voter registration groups, and banned providing food and water to people standing in line to vote. the justice department is also challenging similar voting laws in georgia, texas, and arizona. since the january 6th insurrection, dozens of states have passed or considered restricted voting laws, many of which, specifically target black voters and other communities of color. meanwhile, florida governor ron desantis newly formed and in my opinion controversial, election police force. they made their first alert -- arrest thursday.
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20 people he's had voted illegally in the 2020 election after they were incarcerated for murder and sexual assault. we should note that nbc has not yet verified this. these are the two exceptions to a constitutional amendment passed by florida voters in 2018 that allows formerly incarcerated people to register to vote. all of this was made possible by the supreme court got-ing of the voting rights act in 2013. with chief justice john roberts issued an opinion stating, there was no longer need for the federal government to interfering in states, which had historically discriminated against black voters. bill such as the john lewis voting rights act. or hr1, or the for the people act, offer an opportunity to restore voter protections, but they have been opposed by most
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republicans -- not only trump supporting election deniers, but also so moderate republicans, including senator mitt romney and congresswoman liz cheney. now, while i applaud congresswoman cheney's -- it is hard to view any republican as a true defender of democracy if they continue to tolerate discriminatory voting laws in republican led states. we are just over two months until the midterms. our democracy is more vulnerable than ever. it is not just maga republicans chipping away at voting rights, but in my view, g. o p as a whole, standing in the way of passing voting protections, as they cynically embrace obvious lies for short term gains. we are wise to their gain and we remain vigilant against their efforts. it is --
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call a local agent or 1-888-allstate for a quote today. welcome back to politicsnation. let's bring in my political panel to discuss today's big topics. joining me now is danielle moodie, host of woke a f podcasts and retired republican strategist and cofounder of strategies -- daniel, according to a new politico report, the race for control of senate is a toss-up. given the ratings changes in several states favoring democrats, this as political reports, trump's senate field is floundering in pennsylvania, georgia, arizona and wisconsin. senate races and ohio and
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florida are much closer. what can democrats do to ensure they win the states? >> i think that democrats need to be very clear about their message and the policies that the biden administration has successfully passed in their waves of winds over the capacity of weeks. i also think they need to remind american people about the extremism and the danger and violence that republicans are supporting, because if they are not condemning what's happening with their base right now and how they are attacking the fbi, how they are attacking hospitals, how they are attacking law enforcement, then they are condoning it. democrats need to be able to thread both messages to the american people over the next 12 weeks. >> this weekend, and entire election board in texas county is stepping down after they were receiving death threats following the 2020 election. this says the fbi is investigating an unprecedented number of threats made against the bureau for its search of donald trump's residence in
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mar-a-lago. we know from the mueller probe that foreign powers tried to take advantage of the internal divisions to influence the 2016 election in june. the fbi, an attempted cyberattack on the children's hospital staff a boss pin that had been carried out by hackers sponsored by the iranian government. this week, we learned the same hospital was being there and online by right-wing websites with violence, over its transgender care program. would you consider the current right ring rhetoric surrounding the fbi search being a national security issue? it is something form powders can explode to encourage terrorist acts in the u.s.? >> i think absolutely, every dictator around the world, including in russia and china, we look at these events in
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january six and see democracy as all it is cracked up to be. what's happened here, for 222 years, when john adams became president, and we had a peaceful transfer of power from george washington, 222 years, we had an impeccable, flawless record of presidents succeeding power to whether they were people of their own party or from another party. donald trump destroyed that record, and now we are facing all these ideas, even the idea that violence is going to solve these problems. it is interesting. the texas county, which there were threats to election officials, trump won that county by 79%. it is absurd to think that there is some kind of idea that this election count it was corrupt and was stealing votes from donald trump in a state or donald trump won handily.
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i don't think there is any room for political violence. in fact, i would like to see legislation making political violence tantamount to a hate crime. >> ben now, wisconsin republicans recently ended a 14 month investigation into the 2020 election results. this investigation cost taxpayers over 1 million dollars and turned up, no surprise here, no evidence of significant fraud. the review ended just days after the wisconsin assembly speaker won his primary against a trump backed challenger. the speaker then fired the chief investigator he hired himself to look into the 2020 election. what is your outlook on the situation? is this a positive sign that trump can be defeated within the gop? >> i think that trumpism can be defeated by american standing up and voting against fascism and authoritarianism in the
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upcoming midterms. i think that is what democrats need to put on the belt, as well as all the policy initiatives that they are putting forward, like climate change and infrastructure and lowering drug costs for americans. well the republican party is hell-bent on anti-trans, anti-lgbtq legislation and spreading the big lie. it is very clear who is working for the american people and who is working against them. democrats need to make clear. i think we can be trumpism if we all show up in the way that we repudiated against him in 2020. >> in three days, lindsey graham will have to testify before a georgia grand jury, looking into election interference. on friday, a federal judge denies the republican senators bid to get out of testify. however, he is still waiting on one more appeal that could postpone his appearance. now graham's attorneys argued that a provision of the u.s. constitution provides absolute
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protection against a senator to be questioned about legislative acts. but the judge ruled that the inquiry falls out of the provisions scope. lindsey graham is a crucial witness in the investigation. what do you make of this argument against testifying? does it hold up to you? >> you mean lindsey graham is not special? look, lindsey graham is claiming this constitutional production, which indeed he would have if that phone call had to do with legislation that he was investigating a fact finding. the fact was he was not. the reason they are calling on him to testify is because they know he has information -- there was someone else on the other side of the phone call. investigators have already talked to the person on the other side the phone call that made it clear that lindsey graham is trying to influence the election. he was not trying to investigate the election. no, he's not trying to hold itself and specials that is the way donald trump is trying to hold himself and a special status with the idea that they
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can raid mar-a-lago and they can raid you. yes, they can read you if you broke the law and still documents that belong to the government, some of which are classified. you can fully expect the fbi to raid your home. -- these are axiomatic things. >> daniel moodie and eric tyler, thank you both for being with us. next on politics nation, will the gop support the party's most controversial candidates backfire in november? my next guest who is up against one of the most extreme weighs in next on politicsnation. next on politicsnation. despite treatment it disrupts my skin with itch. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. rinvoq is not a steroid, topical, or injection. it's one pill, once a day, that's effective without topical steroids. many taking rinvoq saw clear or almost-clear skin while some saw up to 100% clear skin.
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politicsnation. the midterm elections are now just 80 days away, and in the fourth congressional district, one that is historically blue, and only flipping red one time in its 12-year history. pollsters are now calling it a tall's toss-up election. that is in part due to republican nominee, sam peters support from former president trump and his allies. incumbent democrat stephen haas foot is vying for third term, come this november. he joins me now. first of all, congressman, thanks for being with us. >> always good to be on your show. >> now, your opponent, sam
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peters, has received a nod from trump as well as an official endorsement from some of his biggest supporters, including arizona congressman, andy biggs and paul gosar. and like trump, peters has denied the 2020 presidential election results in nevada. despite the nevada supreme court finding zero evidence of trump's claims, peters has now called on nevada secretary of state to remove the electronic voting machines for the upcoming midterm national republicans, for the upcoming midterm elections. national republicans are hoping for a pick up here, despite a historic democratic advantage. i mean, what is your response to the trump party, embracing your opponent? and how do you think that affects voters sentiment, come this november? >> well, reverend al, in 1790
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days, we will win reelection to nevada's fourth district because my constituents want someone who's going to continue to fight to reduce cost of living, great good paying jobs, and make our communities safer. and that's what i focused my time doing. instead, my opponent, who is an extreme republican supported by the former president, is an election denier, and would not support the fact that donald trump did not win the 2020 election, and did not win it in nevada. he also supports efforts to defund social security, and he wants to deny women the freedom to make their own health care decisions. those are policies that are out of the mainstream from the majority of the people in the bodies for district. and i'm proud to have represented this district, and to have grown up in this
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district fighting for the needs of everyday nevada's, who are relying on someone who's gonna represent them in washington, d.c.. >> now, this tuesday, president biden signed a 750 billion dollar climate health care tax bill. the bill has been called the most ambitious legislation passed on climate in the nation's history, as it could cut u.s. emissions by 40% by the end of the decade. you have said that due to climate change, excessive heat, and drought, they're impacting the environment like never before, which is needing leading to heightened risk of deadly wildfires across the state. how will the inflation reduction act help combat the environmental issue your state is facing, and support nevada's global growing clean energy sector? >> well, i voted for the inflation reduction act, because as you said, it makes
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and historic investment on addressing the climate crisis. in my state of nevada, that is the wildfires. it is also historic drought that you are facing. and that inflation reduction act is four billion dollars of funding that we help to secure to address the drought in the west, as well as to reduce costs for nevada's, everything from lowering restriction drug costs, including my provision to cap out of pocket costs for seniors annually at $2, 000, and a cap insulin for medicare beneficiaries of $35. it also makes sure that you are protecting people under the affordable care act, so that they have lower cost premiums, and it actually base down the deficit with a 264 billion dollar of funding to help reduce the deficit. so, while my opponent and republicans in congress are trying to deny women their freedoms to make their own health care decisions, i am
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working to pass, not only legislation to reduce costs, but to pass the infrastructure investment and jobs act, pass the bipartisan safer communities act, including my bill to fund community violence prevention at historic amounts, so that we can reduce crime, save lives, and break the cycle of violence. >> congressman, you are the first vice chair of the congressional black caucus in the fourth district of nevada, which you currently serve, and has a diverse election across seven different counties with more than half of the districts voters being people of color. and the largest portion but, proportion of that being a black residents. more than any other nevada congressional district, there are no other people of color on the primary ballots this year. what is the significance of your campaign, as a black american, hoping to continue
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serving the diverse communities that make up nevada's fourth district? >> thank you for recognizing the diversity of nevada's electorate. we are one of the most diverse congressional districts in the country, and are continuing to change demographically. i represent one of the most diverse districts, both demographically, and geographically, i have a part of las vegas and north of las vegas, but i also have five counties throughout all of central nevada, covering more than 50,000 square feet. and so, it's important to me that i reflect the needs of all nevada, from every corner of my district. that's why i've worked to secure funding for community funded projects in rural communities, helping to establish new hospitals, funding for broadband, making sure that we are actually addressing the internet divide that exists in both urban and rural areas. i recognize that as the first
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african american elected to congress for nevada, i have a great responsibility to meet the needs of my constituents, and that means serving every corner of our district. and that is what the people of nevada but's fourth district have chosen in previous elections, and they don't want an extreme representative like the one i'm running against, or those who are controlling efforts in congress to deny women that the freedom to make their own health care decisions or other protections including the right to vote. >> all right, we'll have to leave it there. thank you congressman steven horsford, thank you for being with us. after the break, my final thoughts. thoughts 12 irresistible new subs... like #9 the champ. rotisserie style chicken double monterey cheddar. the champ is truly made for a champ. gee, thanks chuck. who said anything about you? it's subway's biggest refresh yet. ♪ ♪
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thanks for watching. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 5 pm eastern, for another live hour of politicsnation. my lead guest will be the head of the democratic national committee, jaime harrison. there are a lot of questions we want to ask him. that is tomorrow. but now, it's time for american voices with alicia menendez. >> thank you so much, reverend shpt
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