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climate change is something happening in the future and the distant future. we lose sight of just how much impact climate change is having on committees, coastal communities, communities of color, people of color and all these areas being impacted by it. it is once again a reminder that if we don't act now, the future looks very grim. >> that is exactly right. a man, thank you so much. >> thank you, alicia. good evening to you and welcome to ayman. coming up, republicans are fanning the flames of hate, this time against federal law enforcement. i will speak to congressman joaquin castro about the dangerous game that the gop is playing. plus, troll for the trump organization. former cfo allen weisselberg pleads guilty. and then a major win for abortion rights and michigan, as the states attorney general dana nessel is here to break on the ruling. i am ayman mohyeldin, let's get started. >> half truths, badges,
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disinformation and flat out lies continue to pour out of trump world this week, as the red continues to scramble to try to get their stories straight following the fbi search on trump's home. in just a few days, the official maga line says there was no cause for a search and that the fbi planted classified materials to u.s., there was classified materials, but trump somehow telepathically the classified them. look, each lie is more absurd and more cartoonish than the one before it. quite honestly, it is even more dangerous because the lies are actually turning into threats. those threats are beginning to turn to real world consequences. in fact, just last week, the fbi and the agents issued a joint bulletin warning that threats to federal law enforcement have spike since the mar-a-lago search. here's the thing, trump and his
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allies, they have continued their attacks on what enforcement agency even after a pro trump gunmen attempted to storm distance in it fbi field office. the back to blue and law and order party did not seem to care. now, trump world is reportedly considering releasing the surveillance footage of the fbi search and why do so without protecting the identities of the actual law enforcement agents involved in that search. this as trump him self also continues to attack the fbi and social media and other republicans, we'll, you know what they are doing. they are parroting his talking points. louise meco, a republican running in florida's house district 20 had his twitter account yank this week after a post about violence against federal agents. another florida gop candidate said he sent fbi agents home, quote, in a body bag if they ever turned up at his house. thankfully, the threats have not stop federal officials from doing their jobs. the new york times reports that
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the white house counsel and his deputy were interviewed by the fbi connection to the mar-a-lago search. other aides would knowledge to trump's practices, if you want to call them, that have also been contacted. late this week, the justice department revealed in court that this investigation is just getting started. so what happens if trump and his allies keep up these attacks on the enforcement? trump is pouring gasoline and kerosene and diesel fuel and everything you can imagine from paint dinner even more on the rhetorical fire. how long until that fire explodes? joining me now is democratic congressman joaquin castro of texas. congressman, thank you for joining us this evening. it was reported this week that donald trump attempted to get a message to merrick garland that he feels, and these are his words apparently, quote, the country is on fire. he wants to know what he can do to calm things down. given everything that we just
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outlined, what is your reaction to that reporting, that he sent them that message with the suggestion that the country is on fire and perhaps, it is somehow merrick garland's fault? >> i think it is the exact opposite. it is not a call to calm things down, it is actually a warning. donald trump understands that there are millions of very passionate ardent supporters, for suffers supporters, that he has. some of those people, not all of them but some of them are in fact dangerous people who carry out dangerous terroristic acts. we already saw that with generous six. we saw that cincinnati with the attack on the fbi building. so, when he lists the names of fbi agents, for example and, when fox news puts out a fake meme and picture, doctored picture, of a judge in the case with ghislaine maxwell, they know what they are doing.
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they are making this people target of folks who could commit violence against them. >> what do you make of the members of the gop attacking law enforcement and, in some cases, as we highlighted, advocating for violence? saying that if they had fbi agent sure about their house, they would go back and body backs. >> i think what you are seeing is the complete emerging of what's for a few years was the trump wing or far-right wing of the republican party, which overtime has become mainstream and taken over what used to be thought of as the so-called establishment republicans. people like kevin mccarthy and a few years ago paul ryan and so forth. you have those folks, who are trying to delegitimized federal agencies like the fbi and, essentially, putting a target on the backs of law enforcement, federal law enforcement. it is consistent with what we know. donald trump now completely
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owns the republican party. whether he will in two or four years is an open question, depending on what happens with the investigation. he has picked a bunch of senate candidates that look like they are losers, so that may upset everybody. right now, he fully on the republican party. >> i wanted to ask you as a member of the house intel committee and somebody who deals and seize classified information, i wanted to get your thoughts on the classified information that trump has had at his home for the past 18 months. just how dangerous is it for him to have the documents that he reportedly has had since leaving office? >> i have not got in briefed on exactly what he has in his possession, but remember, for context, the president has the highest levels of classification information. there are some things that only the president and literally only a few other people in the country had the opportunity to see.
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it is possible that the former president trump has some classified information that can be very harmful to u.s. national security. the idea that he would take these documents home and put them in a place that could be accessible, not only to all the patrons of mar-a-lago who come in and out of there but also a lot of foreigners who visit mar-a-lago. remember, you've got to remember that when we go into this the scif, a secured facility, in the house capitol complex, we cannot take our phone in there, we cannot even have a fitbit. we have a code to get in. they only let unauthorized visitors and members of the committee. so, the idea that anyone of us would take any kind of classified documents out of there is some ridges. we would certainly pay a price for that. so should donald trump. >> again, because you have more insight into this than i do, what are your thoughts and understandings of how trump
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saying without evidence that he magically declassified all the documents in his possession? is that how it works? a president can just either retroactively say with a magic wand, hey, this is not declassified because i am the president or former president, and now he took it with me? >> it is very unlikely that he did the. on the one hand, it is true that the president has the power to declassified whatever documents he or she wants, but i believe there are about 18 people that were close to trump who came out in the last few days and said they knew nothing of any kind of declassification effort like that. he has also never spoken, it seems like, to anybody about that before. it is highly unlikely. it seems to be consistent with a pattern of donald trump, which he comes up with an ad hoc excuse to excuse what is illicit, or in this case, illegal behavior. >> let me, if i can, before i let you go ask your thoughts
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about politics for a moment. and your reaction to liz cheney's primary loss, and what this is about the republican party that she was effectively shown out of office, not for her policies, not for the 20 and things she advocated for, not for the positions that she lobbied as a member of congress for, but for basically shunning the cold that is the trump world? >> there is no room for truth telling in the republican party today. there is no room for going against the gospel of donald trump and foreseeing and during donna trump us anything other than some kind of deede or icon. and very few politicians as we have seen survived, very few politicians political career survive crossing donald trump. that is the power that he holds, and i think that will be the
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case, at least for the next few years. i suspect, a man, that you see ron desantis and others also become victimized in the 2024 cycle by the very fact. i don't think it would not say that rhonda scent this has a shot right now. i think trump will still eat him up. so, the republican party is owned by donald trump. >> yeah, and it seems like desantis is trying to do everything he can to be in the good graces of donald trump, so we will see how that relationship plays out. congressman joaquin castro of texas, always a pleasure, thank you for making time tonight. >> good to be with you. >> still ahead, one of trump's longtime allies, we will explain that. that a socket wrench, pliers, and a phone open to libertymutual.com they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need... and a blowtorch. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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to donald trump a grew again this week. in fact, here is a partial list of the trump cronies who have faced legal issues since he started running for office in 2015. some have gone to jail, others have gotten pardons from trump and, still, others are awaiting their fates. it looks like a police chart in a mob movie connecting all the dots back to one man, donald trump. it kind of makes you wonder, how can trump be surrounded by so many convicted potential criminals and not be one himself? the new name added this week to that long list, former trump organization chief financial officer, allen weisselberg.
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weisselberg agreed to a plea bill for failing to agree on disclosing tax benefits from the trump organization. he failed to pay $2 million in taxes, interest and penalties. he also agreed to serve five months in jail at the notorious records island prison, following five years of probation. the deal does not require him to operate in a larger deal against donald trump, but he may be called to testify against the trump organization come october. joining me now is renato mariotti, a former prosecutor, legal affairs commentator and host of the on topic podcast. it is good to have you with us. some people are looking at this and saying he is not cooperating in the agreement of pleading guilty, what does this plea mean for the larger case against the trump organization? >> i think the trump organization is basically that right going to be found guilty
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here. because an organization like that is nothing but the officers, police, et cetera and mr. weisselberg is a chief financial officer and if he takes the stand this is i committed fraud and so the disorganization, i think that bears the organization, and i think that's what prosecutors will look to do. >> what do you think that the actual sentence of weisselberg sentence? as i mentioned, five months in prison, five years under probation, a payment of nearly two billion dollars for failing to pay taxes. does the punishment fit the crime or not enough? >> that's an interesting question. i would say, i was a federal prosecutor for years. i prosecuted a lot of white collar crime. one frustration for me when i was a prosecutor was that i often had difficulties securing lengthy sentences for people that wiped people out of their life's asians, she did all the financial market, people who committed nine figure frauds.
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it is difficult to obtain lengthy sentences for those individuals. compared to typical white collar sentences, this is not unreasonable, given the amount of money here was very large, a set piece cases go. from a broader societal perspective, i can understand why people are looking at this and wondering, why are we having trouble achieving large sentences in a very significant time? >> can you help me understand the distinction between being a cooperative ruinous but also as he is required to testify against the trump organization. weisselberg is not required to testify against the trump organization in october his. sentenced to pence on him, quote, testifying truthfully. a, how do prosecutors ensure the, and what is the difference between him testifying truthfully and being a cooperating witness, which is
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not? >> that's a very smart question. here is what i would say, first of all, when we talk about a cooperating, so they flipped, they are required to participate -- whenever the government needs them, they take a witness stand. whenever the government needs information, they are required to provide it. -- but does plea agreements require, but they essentially agreed to do whatever, a hunter percent of what the government ask. weisselberg negotiated here was an exchange of what i would call partial cooperation, cooperation solely against the entity, this is that he is the cfo of, and only against that entity, he negotiated a better deal from self. >> renato, stick around for me, i have a lot more to talk to you about after the break. still ahead, big developments in the investigation into trump's efforts to overturn the election results in georgia. tion results in georgia.
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georgia and spent more than six hours testifying in front of a grand jury that is looking into possible 2020 election interference. giuliani's appearances we came days after he was informed that he is, in fact, a target of the criminal probe. meanwhile, just yesterday, a federal judge senator lindsey graham's efforts to avoid testifying in front of that sin grand jury. that is after fulton county da fani willis warned any further delay and graham's testimony will cause significant harm and delayed the revelation of an entire category of relevant witnesses or information. this is not the only grand jury zeroing in on trump's inner circle this week. you have that federal grand jury investigating the january 6th attack. it is now subpoenaed former
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trump white house lawyer air cushman for documents and testimony. joining me now is the former district attorney and coauthor of -- renato mariotti is also back with us. glenn, us start with you, you are the former district attorney of -- county, next to fulton county. i spent a lot of time in that county myself. what is your reaction to the ruling regarding graham subpoena? what will could not tell us about the direction this case may be taken? i think we are working on trying to reestablish gwen's connection there. we're not oh, i'm not sure you heard the question, but give me your thoughts on what this means for the direction of this investigation, given what we saw senator lindsey graham tried to do in delaying his
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testimony or trying to avoid the testimony, and the judge basically stopping that dancing, no, you have to show up? >> i think grams arguments are very weak. he's biscay arguing that the speech debate clause at the constitution, which basically says that you can't criminally charge members of congress for what they do in their legislative duties, he is basically saying that that covers his phone calls to georgia election officials trying to influence the results of the election. really, none of that was legislative, that was not his electoral, political or worse on behalf of the former president. i expected that to be a loser. i'm not surprised that that lost. i actually think the senator knows that, and is just trying to delay, by time, signal to the former president trump that he still on his side. i think the da here will move
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forward. i expect her to move forward and ultimately issue it. >> i think we have a connection backwards gwen. i was going to come back with you with giuliani in a moment. we are told he is a target that inquiry. initially, prosecutors said that giuliani was only a material witness. i think we may have lost going again. i apologize, be patient with us, folks. renato, i will ask you to step in and explain that distinction between what giuliani initially told or led to believe that he was immaterial goodness, at least in your courts, but now as we understand it, being told is the target of an investigation? >> being a target of a criminal investigation has a very specific meaning to prosecutors. what it means is a prosecutor intends to indict a person. subjects are people that they're looking at, or
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witnesses below that, that is somebody that they want to talk to. a target that is not only a specific meaning but one that should be causing mr. giuliani a great deal of concern-y, if i was representing him. i will tell them to expect an indictment and instructed not to say anything to a grand jury other than his name and taking the fifth. >> let me ask you about another member of trump's team. this week, you had a judge in colorado ordered jenna ellis, a legal adviser for the former president, who also helped push a lot of his big election lies. he ordered her to travel to georgia to testify before the same greenery. talk to me about that process behind getting someone out of state to testify and will it says about the kind of evidence and the reach that the da fani willis already has regarding alice's role to compel them to come out of state? >> usually, somebody like miss
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ellis would just comply. a lawyer who is subpoenaed would usually comply because, ultimately, at the end of the day, another state court is going to enforce the subpoena. essentially, there is a process by which the subpoena is put before a judge in the state that the person resides. that judge makes a decision, as a judge did for mr. senator graham. ultimately, i expect miss alice to have to testify. she is somebody i would put in the same bucket as mr. giuliani. she lies, makes false statements, and i think she should be very concerned about her liability as well, given how closer contracts are. >> let me switch gears and get your final thoughts on the justice department's investigation into the january 6th attack. as i mentioned this week, they subpoenaed the former white house lawyer eric herschmann
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and, of course, if people remember, he was one of the breakout stars from the january 6th hearings on capitol hill. let me play for you and our viewers a small glimpse of what he had to say at the time. >> what they were proposing, i thought was months. they screamed at me that i was a quitter -- i said to him, are you of your effing mind? i said i only want to hear two words coming out of your mouth from now on. orderly transition. eventually he, he said, orderly transition. i said, good john, now i will give you the best free legal advice you will ever get in your life. get a great effing criminal defence lawyer, you will need it. >> renato, what kind of information could somebody like herschmann provide to the greenery? this is such a dynamic moment in the hearings because it gave us a very granular level recap of the conversation that was
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taking place, but what could he provide to the grand jury investigation? >> ayman, i had to say that he probably has a good bleeping lawyer himself now. i imagine he has a lot to tell the grand jury because he was a lawyer for the office of the president, and he was talking directly to mr. eastman, directly to mr. clark, and those conversations he just recounted a minute ago go directly to the state of mind to those people. mr. eastman's basically telling him, i believe you are committing a crime, and if you received that level of notice from a lawyer from the office of the president telling you that i believe you are committing a crime right now, and you go forward and engage in that activity, that is very powerful proof. i think a jury will find that testimony, that we just heard a moment ago, very compelling. >> all right, we're not oh mariotti, i appreciate you picking up the slack there for
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us on our part. unfortunately, we are not able to get a connection established there would gwen keith fleming. appreciate you joining us on that conversation. still ahead, michigan attorney general dana nessel on the court victory that protects abortion rights in the state for now. w. . whooping cough is highly contagious for people of any age. and it can cause violent uncontrollable coughing fits. ask your doctor or pharmacist about whooping cough vaccination because it's not just for kids.
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we are seeing new attacks dark that women and their ability to control their own health care
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choices. but it is not on the recent legislation that is actually threatening access to abortion. just as the day, a michigan judge blocked a county, rather a county prosecutor, excuse me, from enforcing the states 1931 ban on abortion. let me play for you some of what the judge said. >> weaponizing -- the forced pregnancy on our states women is contrary to the due process, legal protection and bodily autonomy. i am not issuing and in the junction today -- the issue in cost of which will be put on the woman of her good state and not lost on the court without any repercussion for the man who, without a doubt, are a necessary component to create a pregnancy. >> joining me now is michigan attorney general dana nessel, who has been fighting to protect abortion access in that state. madam attorney general, thank you so much for joining us. can he tell us a little bit briefly about the 1931 law and how democrats won in court this
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week? >> this is a law that has been incredibly junior, right? there are no exceptions for rape, no exceptions for incest and no exception involving where abortion is required to preserve the health of a woman. now, it does say to preserve the life of a woman, but it is totally unclear what that means. if you take issues like a topic pregnancies or preeclampsia or hybrid pressure or cancer, how near death as a woman have to be in order for an abortion to be permitted under the law? these physicians testified and what i believe to be the first evidentiary hearing that we have had since the fall of tops in any state were all these positions testified that this was dangerous for women and violated all the standards for health care practitioners in the state of michigan.
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>> i know that, madam attorney general, hindsight is 2020, but why did michigan democrats never take legislative steps to scrap his 1931 abortion ban? is that a common practice that lets that is go back to review legislation that is no longer relevant and basically, they repeal them or try to get them off the books? or did they just try to legislate forward looking and not backward looking? >> there were many efforts to try to repeal the old law, but, unfortunately, our state is badly gerrymandered. it will not be after this year because we now have a non -- i should say a bipartisan redistricting commission. the republicans will never allow it to go through. we have not had both the house and the senate and the governor's office and a very long time. all the efforts of the democrats had made to repeal the 1931 law were unsuccessful. we are not seeing the results of that.
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thankfully, we had a judge in the open county circuit court the preached that the lives of pregnant women matter in our state. >> what is the fico from here? what is the next stage? republicans are clearly vowing to appeal this decision. where do you see it going? >> it was really interesting what judge cunningham said in his opinion. what he said was that he would put off a trial in this matter until after the november election. the reason he was doing that is because we have a ballot proposal that will likely be on the ballot this november, specifically that creates a constitutional right in michigan for all kinds of health care that are related to this issue. so not just abortion care but the handling of miscarriages, birth control and fertility treatments. the judge just put it all out
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there. he said, you know what, the united states supreme court and the ruling in the dobbs case, where they overturned roe v. wade, despite a circle back to the states, and so would judge cunningham set was, let the voters decide this issue. this injunction has been put in place until after the election, specifically to allow the voters to make a decision on this issue. i know that if this ballot actually -- this proposal actually makes the ballot, it will pass in large numbers, because people in the state of michigan don't want to see the lives of women put at risk by a law that unfairly discriminates against them. >> speaking of elections and looking ahead, what does abortion access look like in the state of michigan, if republicans do win up and down the ballot come november? >> if this proposal does not make it about or it does not pass, and if you have the people running for these incredibly important offices
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for governor, for attorney general, these are people who are so anti choice, in the case of my opponent, he does not even believe there should be an exception to save the life of the woman. in fact, he said, very candidly, that he does not think there is any set of circumstances that could possibly justify an abortion, even if it means the woman has the day. he has said that there is nothing that should take precedence over that of a fertilized egg, as words, not mine. so, i think we are in big trouble. if we have people like the woman who is being dominated by the republicans for governor, like my opponent, i think women are in great peril in the state of michigan, and it's not a place that should be comparable for women of reproductive age to move to. it is not a place that they should seek to live. that is the long and short of it. >> it is going to be one of the states that i think the entire
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qanon a domestic terror threat back in 2019, the movement fueled in part by the gop, it has definitely grown since that declaration. it includes supporters like this guy tony lamotta, in november 2020 he was arrested for showing up armed outside a ballot counting location in philadelphia. lamotta traveled there in his hummer which featured a qanon sticker and was filled with ammunition according to the prosecutors. and this week he was arrested again for allegedly storming the capitol on january the 6th. the fbi said they identified lamotta in the capital images after revisiting his 2020
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arrest. my next guest has been studying the rise of the qanon movement and lays out in his new book the storm is upon us some of his findings, it is out now in paperback. rothschild writes cuba levers believes that they are soldiers on the vanguard of a war between good and evil. this is an extremely powerful belief system, one that rewards faith and action and punishes derision. mike rothschild joins me now. mike, it's great to have you with us. you know, based on your research what do you make of this recent rise in violent threats against the fbi after the mar-a-lago search? how do they intersect in these various groupings and threats and what we're seeing happening online? >> sure, it's great to be here. there has always been a distrust of federal law enforcement on the far-right. if you go back to the early 90s, you had the panic over atf agents kicking down your door, taking your guns away.
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but in that case it was done on behalf of a tyrannical president. bill clinton. in this case it's being done to protect the former president donald trump. so you have a movement that is not so much anti government, there are anti-this vast apparatus that they believe is trying to take down trump. they did it through stealing the election. now they're doing it through these investigations. they've done it through the russia investigation. everything that happens is built into this world view that everybody is back to get trump. these people have to protect them. they have to fight for him, because he fights for them. it's almost a symbiotic relationship and they feel like it is their turn to step up and do the job, you would has to be done. >> explain to me based on what you've seen in research, republicans have normalized qanon by electing candidates like marjorie taylor greene or lauren boebert, do you expect the mainstreaming of qanon or cue to get worse going into
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2024, and why has it taken such a hold on the republican party exclusively? >> i don't think we will see the mainstreaming of the qanon mythology, i don't think we will see mitch mcconnell get up in front of the senate and be quoting q post, what we've seen as the main streaming of the mythology behind qanon. the election was stolen in a plan that was laid out over a year with covid being faked. a vast sigh tanika trafficking ring running global finance in government, these are classic ideas in the conspiracy theory world. qanon has wrap them up in a very shiny, social media friendly package, they've made you a participant. you get to be part of it. what a lot of republicans have done is that they can't endorse it, they can say i believe hillary clinton drinks baby blood, they won't say that, but they can't push it away either. they have to say, people have a right to ask questions, we don't really know what happened in that county.
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they endorse it by not pushing it away. >> let me play for you and our viewers something donald trump said when he was asked about qanon back in 2020. watch this. >> i don't know much about the movement other than that they like me very much. i appreciate. >> what are the repercussions of the leader of a major political party and at the time he was the president of the united states giving that kind of response to an organization that had been deemed a terrorist -- domestic terrorist threat by law enforcement the year prior 2019? >> well, i was watching the qanon message board in social media, it's like they won 20 super bowls at the same time. it was the greatest day of these peoples lives. but for the general public, it's really troubling. this is a violent chaotic movement, it is deeply antisemitic, deeply racist. it exists fantasizing about the
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extrajudicial punishment of its enemies. this is the kind of thing that the president of the united states should be saying no, that's not what i want, i want anything to do with this. i don't want these people supporting me. but it's donald trump. he reflects back the love that he is given and q believers believe that he is a messianic figure, chosen to break the 6000-year grip of the death cult running the world. so of course they will love him and think everything he does is genius. he is going to love them right back. i don't think we should've been surprised at his reaction. >> mike, i'm not sure if you can answer this one but feel free to batted down, how does this compare in the u.s. to what we have seen overseas with other conspiracy theories? it's a qanon exclusive to america, and when you compare it with perhaps other conspiracy theory organizations, if you will, if you want to call them that, movements, how does it compare globally? >> it's actually very popular,
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globally. qanon believers in other countries tend to take the part of qanon that really fits best with their politics and their culture, they will discard the rescue, non believers in germany are not arguing about brett kavanaugh not being confirmed. but it's very popular in the far-right in germany, very popular in the far left and far right in france, really took off in australia, really took off in japan. it's really popular with anybody who believes that there is a super government, or a cabal of insiders who are trying to keep them down. trying to take away things that they care about. that really could be anybody. that is international. the feeling of being exploited, used by these powerful people. here is a chance to fight back. that translates in any language, political system. that's a universal feeling. q really took off in many different countries. >> it's an absolutely alarming trend, one that we should all
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but you might want to start a compost pile, turn down the ac. you got a lot of work to do because your kids are going to need it. between two initiatives on sports betting. prop 27 generates hundreds of millions every year to permanently fund getting people off the streets a prop 26? not a dime to solve homelessness prop 27 has strong protections to prevent minors from betting. prop 26? no protections for minors. prop 27 helps every tribe, including disadvantaged tribes. prop 26? nothing for disadvantaged tribes >> some veterans are speaking vote yes on 27. out against gender disparities in the va medical network. in fact there's a clinics lack the basic resources necessary for abortions in other medical
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procedures. this is becoming increasingly evident in texas, which is home to the nation's largest female vet population. some of the strictest abortion laws. julia traveled there and spoke exclusively with a group of female veterans. >> you're a woman, i don't know what to do with you. >> that is what's navy veteran says a va doctor told her when she sought care for a panic attack. for the largest population of women veterans, nationwide, texas's abortion restriction spotlight the existing gender disparities. within the va medical system. some of them told congresswoman julia during a session -- >> we spend our whole careers assimilating into a male world. why do we have to assimilate into mail health care. >> before the birth of her daughter, she said she had multiple miscarriages. requiring several surgeries that may be illegal today. in 2016, amber turned to the
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san antonio va for severe pain in her stomach and back. at that time, she says the clinic had one gynecologist and a single ultrasound machine. some clinics don't even have that. a 2020 inspector general report found the biggest va hospital in texas went several years without a gynecologist and had inadequate women's facilities. >> the service that i've received was an approximate, and tough it up. >> this spring the 37 year old had enough, she paid out of pocket to see a regular doctor who immediately scheduled an emergency hysterectomy. >> i suffered for four years with cyclical pain. i had no choice. the only treatment was to remove my uterus, and my cervix. i have had a full hysterectomy, i have one child, and i don't have the opportunity to have other children. >> other veterans recounted similar experiences. the va does not provide any abortion services.
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adding to growing concerns among military women. >> nbc news was denied multiple requests for interviews by the va including access to their medical center here in houston, instead they provided nbc with a statement saying approximately 300,000 women veterans of childbearing age rely on us for their health care, including services such as contraception, fertility care and maternity care. we will continue to make sure that they have timely access to the full suite of reproductive care. >> why does the va not doing any women's health care for abortion? why is that not happening? >> congresswoman brownley is hearing from women demanding better medical infrastructure that is specific to their needs, especially in states where abortion is banned. democratic lawmakers say the va can expand services under existing law. >> the secretary has the authority to make that change, he can do it tomorrow if he wanted to. >> unlike the va, the
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department of defense provides abortion services on military bases, where nearly one in four women say they were sexually harassed, but most don't reported. according to a study from the nonpartisan brand corporation. lucy delgado said she was raped while serving in the military in the early 1990s. >> my daughters the product of my salt. >> she said she, not her views are, was discharged after becoming pregnant, the military calling her unfit to serve. she lost her benefits, she says, experiencing homelessness while her mental health deteriorated. not only from military service but from the assault to. >> we've raised our right hand so we should get the services that we rightly deserve, and that is all we expect and we want to get the services that are male counterparts get when they go to the va. >> women are the fastest growing cohort in the veteran community. but there is worry among some of them, that abortion
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regulation on top of existing health care issues among women will further impact recruitment. >> this is fuel to the fire. what do you want people to know about women veterans, especially with these restrictions in place? >> we stood side by side shoulder to shoulder when we served, there wasn't a problem, i was the most visible service member and now i'm the most invisible veteran, why? why is that? >> all right coming up on this hour of a man republicans reject one of their own for speaking out against trump how, liz cheney's demise house listening embodies the to my about degradation of is the declaration that the the gop, the lawsuit that might get fox gop, plus the lawsuit that might to stop get fox to stop spreading its lies spreading its, and lies and as is mehmet oz the -- most out of touch this senate candidate this election election cycle and cycle. there is a lot of, them but there are a lot of them, we will see, but we will see. i'm ayman, let's get started. i am ayman mohyeldin, let's get started. what

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