ceremony. i already knew my brother was making a credible family. this meant so much to us. >> i'm going to cry. i'm gonna cry this hour -- that wraps it up for us. yasmin will be back next saturday at 2 pm. simone starts right now. greetings, you're watching simone, take immediate action. that is the demand lawmakers are making to social media sites to deal with the flood of violent online threats towards law enforcement. this is just the latest fallout after the fbi search of former president, donald trump,'s mar-a-lago estate. we are talking to oversight committee member, democratic congresswoman, shot -- chantal brown. we've just learned today that lindsey graham will not have to testify before a grand jury on tuesday. we are talking to our legal experts about wet it means for the election interference investigation in georgia.

plus, monkeypox has made its way into almost all 50 states in america. the chance for us to head off this virus has to seemingly slip away. how is the white house responding? we are asking the deputy coordinator of the white house monkeypox response team. i'm simone sanders towns in, and i have something to say. the former president has repeatedly blasted any investigation into how he could resolve accountability. the majority of americans do not share that sentiment. >> 57% think investigations should continue. 57% might be disappointed to

learn that the court delayed the testimony of south carolina republican senator, lindsey graham. in the fulton county georgia criminal investigation into attempted election interference in the peach state. the reason is because it all revolves around the speech and debate clause, which protects members of congress from being sued for legislative speech. it is just the latest twist in this consequential investigation. and in florida, judge, bruce reinhardt, said he is inclined to unseal that affidavit that spurred the fbi search of mar-a-lago. the justice department has until thursday to propose redactions. i want to bring in legal panel to discuss the latest developments into of the criminal investigations now involving the former president. charles coleman is an msnbc legal analyst and ryan goodman is a former special counsel to the general counsel of the defense apartment. say that five times fast. welcome to you both. charles, let me start with, you we know that the judge could

decide to release a redacted version of the mar-a-lago affidavit. now, former president trump says the documents search violated his fourth amendment protection against illegal search and seizure. you have trump's council telling a conservative radio show host, mark levin, that they are considering firing a motion to appoint a special master to review documents that were seized by the fbi. what's the special master to? what is the endgame? >> a special master is someone who would look at the evidence from impartiality. the inclination that the trump attorneys are suggesting in advance of the doj and the fbi are not impartial parties. we know that's not true. but they're already leaving room to cast out through disinformation, confusion and narrative control around what

it is that the fbi is going to -- opponents review of the 11 different boxes that will recover from mar-a-lago. in the bigger sense, but they are trying to do is funnel disinformation out through a number of different avenues to try to control the narrative among their followers and their base. if you look at, for example, the notion of the affidavit bid and it's redaction, they put publicly to make this push for transparency. this is something they want, this is something they want out in the public. if you noticed what has happened in court, they have not been nearly as aggressive in trying to get those things. >> not aggressive at all! charles, trump's lawyers did not file a motion to unseal the affidavit. it runs counter to what the former president has been saying. is there information and their coach that could be damaging to trump? is that way they don't want to file the motion? >> more than likely, you don't get a search warrant,

especially in the case like, this without probable cause. all search warrants require showing probable cause. no matter how much redaction would take place before this was released, there would be some sort of information in there that would explain how the government had probable cause and how it was actually set up for them to get the warrant. that is not information that trump's attorneys went out -- a war make a quick point, simone. the other aspect about different information campaign, doj had engaged with trump for over a year to try to get these documents. this was the result of failed discussions, it was the result of a subpoena that had been -- it is the notion of, this caught us by surprise. it violated the fourth amendment rights. this is all furthering the disinformation campaign that has attempted to hijack the narrative. >> the former president being disingenuous, what a shocker! i want to move to another criminal investigation. specifically, the one in

potential interference -- we know that this morning at the 11th circuit temporarily blocked republican senator, lindsey graham, from having to testify before the grand jury. again, citing this potential speech and debate clause concerns. break it down for us, ryan, what effect could this or will this have on the investigation and specifically the timeline? >> i think it is a temporary setback. i don't think this is a setback of weeks, i think it's a setback of days. the 11th circuit didn't give us any reasoning behind their decision. but they basically seem to say, let's have the federal district court again look at this question of whether or not the interview with lindsey graham can be tailored so that excludes anything and deals with his legislative activities. you know with the federal district court will do because they've made the decision under the speed and debate clause that it doesn't -- but it will be upheld on review. in some sense is not a good

sign for lindsey graham because the court of appeals is signaling that he will not get everything he wants, which is just to quash and -- the entire subpoena and doesn't have to appear at all. at the end of the day it looks like a few days of delay. there's no telling exactly what will happen. >> we also know that rudy giuliani is a target of that criminal investigation in georgia. he's the closest associate of the former president so far to be a target that we know of. what developments could we seat next in this case as it relates to rudy giuliani, brian? >> if anything, he's probably going to need to take the fifth if asked any questions. you could easily imagine that, well it comes forward with an a diamond of giuliani, he faces the choice as to whether or not he will flip and try to strike a deal or otherwise. it's almost inconceivable to think that giuliani gets indicted and donald trump is not indicted as well, or referenced as a criminal

coconspirator. it is criminal jeopardy for him in particular and also for the former president. >> all right, ryan goodman, charles coleman, thank you very much for your insights. >> online threats against law enforcement has seen an uptick after donald trump raged against the search of his mar-a-lago estate. now, the house committee, who is charged with oversight, has requested information from eight popular social media platforms. i'm talking meta, facebook's parent company, twitter, tiktok, and the former president, truth social platform. they are asking, what are these platforms doing to monitor these threats on their sites? joining me now is one of the members of that house oversight committee. democratic congresswoman from ohio, chantal brown. welcome back to you, congresswoman. first of all, what information exactly is the committee seeking here? >> first of, all thank you for having me, simone. i want to start off by saying

that this is a very serious matter. everyone should treat it as such. right here in my home state of ohio, three days after the fbi mar-a-lago raid, there was a man who showed up to one of the fbi agencies with body armor, and, and attempted to breach the fbi building. thankfully he was not successful. it could have gone a different way. three days after that, right next to -- a man was arrested and charged with threatening to kill an fbi agents. these threats are very real. what we know is that these threats are proceeded by the same kind of -- that we both saw in january 6th. what we are attempting to do as a proud member of the oversight committee is get to the bottom of how these websites are holding their users accountable when they pose these threats that are really putting people in real life danger. we are talking about releasing information, birthdays, emails,

social media links to family members. these are irreversible actions that could potentially cause more harm. and they are launched because our former president was upset that people were actually doing their jobs and his supporters continue to use this right wing election denying, mega messaging that is really, in my opinion, a real threat to our democracy. >> it is dangerous. it is absolutely dangerous. some of the platforms that your committee has requested information from, to your, point they cater to the right. some of these are even playing host to actual extremists. what have the responses been so far? have you gotten anything that you have looked for? how cooperative, specifically, to expect these more conservative sites to be? actually, all of? them i'm interested in tiktok? >> we want to really get down to the bottom of how these companies are dealing with people when they make fbi

threats. how many fbi threats have there been? where they removed from the platform? where they reported to law enforcement? how do companies plan to stop this information from perpetuating violence? against law enforcement personnel, specifically? that's the information we're looking for. it's our hope that it's not about partisan politics or one website that leans more in favor to another person, they may back trump or not, this is about justice and truth, simone. no one is above the law. this is a reminder to all bad actors, the department of justice and the fbi will carry out the duties to protect the security of our country, regardless of who is in question. our committees first priority is, again, protecting the first amendment of all rights of americans. when the dialogue becomes incitement of deadly violence against lawmakers, we have to take a stand. we have already witnessed the dangerous influence of our former president on extremist

groups. we have to take tactical measures to protect our nation. i don't know if you know this, but today on nbc there was a poll that was released where the threat of our democracy is -- >> pulled number one! >> exactly. over -- the real serious issue. >> this is very serious. i want to -- i thought it interesting, we didn't have an opportunity to get into it there, but it strikes me that talking about and asking the social media companies is one important component of this. we have to talk about your colleagues. particularly, i'm talking about your republican colleagues. they have been going to the extreme. they've been calling for defunding or destroying the fbi. senator, rick scott, he even invoked comparisons between the fbi and gestapo and the former soviet union. this is insane. what message do you have for your colleagues across the aisle?

>> it is ironic that suddenly they find that the fbi is corrupt. this is the party that proclaims and professes to back the blue. now they seem to be bashing the blue. let me be clear, i do not stand with them as they talk about dismantling, disbanding the fbi. as a member of congress, this is the agency that protects us and is designed to protect us. this is not about right or left, this is about right versus wrong. this is not about republican versus democrat. this should be a non partisan issue. it should be clear to my colleagues that protecting their families does not have a partisan place. >> congresswoman, chantal, brown hero truth teller. thank you very much for your time. coming, up the rise of monkeypox cases is leading health officials to really step up their calls for action.

but how do you and your loved ones fair here? how do you stay safe? and why do you need to take this seriously? well, the deputy coordinator for the white house monkeypox response, doctor dimitri daskalakis, will join me cancer those questions. first, my colleague, richard, louis is here with other top news stories. richard, when he got? >> we'll start with, this russia is saying it is investigating a possible contract killing of the daughter of an ally of vladimir putin. the car exploded saturday while she was driving. investigators say that an explosive disavow this was placed underneath the car. nbc news has not been able to verify that information. the ukrainian presidential advisor did say that ukraine had nothing to do with this incident. first lady, dr. jill biden, no longer in isolation after receiving two negative covid tests. her office says she will return to travel with president biden, who is in delaware today. the first lady was an isolation for five days after testing positive. wendy's says it is pulling

lettuce from damages at its michigan, ohio and pennsylvania restaurants. it's a precautionary step amid an e. coli outbreak in some areas. the cdc does not know the outbreak source as of yet, which led to at least 37 infections so far. the cdc says 86% of those interviewed reported eating at a wendy's before they became sick. more simone, right after this break. break. this is the moment. for a treatment for moderate-to-severe eczema. cibinqo — fda approved. 100% steroid free. not an injection, cibinqo is a once-daily pill for adults who didn't respond to previous treatments. and cibinqo helps provide clearer skin and less itch. cibinqo can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. before and during treatment, your doctor should check for infections and do blood tests. tell your doctor if you've had hepatitis b or c, have flu-like symptoms, or are prone to infections.

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ignoring monkeypox because you think it won't affect you? if so, you need to stop thinking -- i'm going to tell you why. a number of cases around the world jumped by 20% in just one week. the cdc says there are more than 14,000 cases in the united states right now, and that includes a new pediatric case, this time in new york. monkeypox as been reported in 49 states with new york and california being hit the hardest. the briefing on thursday from the health of newman services secretary admitted more action needs to be taken. >> we know we have more to do to mitigate the spread of this virus and protect those that risk. our work with the state and local partners cannot be more critical than at this particular moment. we know that viruses don't care about state lines. they don't wait to spread. >> i'm joined now by doctor

dimitri, the deputy coordinator of the white house monkeypox response. thank you so much for being here doctor. first, let me just start with responding to the criticism that united states is repeating the stakes during the early days of covid. do you think the country has been slow to respond to monkeypox? >> first of all they get so much for having me on? i'll say that i have been involved in the response since the very beginning. in fact, before the first case was identified in the u.s., i want to say that a lot of urgency has been put behind the response. it's important to also remember that monkeypox is a lot different than covid. it's not transmitted through respiratory route. it deer involves direct skin on skin contact and environments on sexual exposure. and right now, it is over represented in populations of gay bisexual, and other men who

have sex with men. i seeing vaccines being ramped up and testing being ramped up at a speed that is unprecedented demonstrates that there is urgency but of course, the reason that the white house is creating new coordination cell it's to make sure that we are moving efficiently and rapidly to control this outbreak. >> we both know that it's public awareness and guidelines that are very important to contain an epidemic. what you saw adequately laid out here the difference between covid and monkeypox, what is the cdc doing? to make sure that accurate information gets out there? specifically to communities that need it le drian who. >> that is the pivotal question. all the biological interventions that are so important, like vaccine text -- testing, all of that. but at the end of the day, clear, concise communication that is culturally responsive is critical. from the very beginning of this

really providing details for how monkeypox could be avoided even as we are ramping up vaccine, so really flank clear language that is responsive to the needs of the population over represented in this case, in this case gave, bisexual men and other men who have sex with men. it's been the cornerstone of the response. really learning from covid and hiv it's about getting the information through trusted messengers. people that folks listen to. the why love governmental public health i think it's really important, it's always the voice that people listen to. thinking about using community voices and platforms that are listened to better by populations and be not listened to typical, governmental public health conversations. it's really been important and how are messaging this. >> i know that the majority of monkeypox cases are found in as you just said, men that have sex with men. but the reality is, we have a new case in new york that is a

pediatric case rolland he monkeypox is not. just men who have sex with men. so, what is the virus response team doing to one make sure that message gets, out but to, to quell the concerns of parents? school is about to start? >> i'll start by saying that from the very beginning, the messaging around monkeypox has been about monkeypox can affect anyone. it's a virus. it does not know sexual orientation or gender identity. it does not know any of those characteristics, but it can affect any human. that messaging has been really important from the beginning. of course, it's really important to create awareness and all populations. really focusing a lot of effort, again, giving clear information to individuals so they could have knowledge without having fear. i think we are releasing frequently asked questions, specifically focusing on school environments. we are engaging with a lot of

individuals who work with schools to make sure we get clear concise information out. it's not about fear, it's about knowledge. it is that knowledge is power in terms of identifying cases and thinking about monkeypox on the list of things that could come up if somebody has a rash but also realizing that the real risk in schools remains extremely low. >> doctor daskalakis, thank you for making it plain. i appreciate your time today. and for anyone watching with more questions about covid, monkeypox or even polio you could tweet us at simone msnbc. that's simone or the why. we will have a doctor to answer your questions in our peacock show on tuesday. tweet us at simone msnbc. next, we are going to get into a new polling on america's top issues could mean for midterm turnout and democrats -- for holding the house and senate. my favorite topic. we're also going to get into the redistricting effect.

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gender identity. and authorizes parents to sue the school if they don't like what's going on in the classroom. nbc news correspondent, stephanie stanton is live in sarasota florida right now. where desantis just finished speaking. stephanie, how are you? talk to us about the teachers and the state. how are they handling all of this particularly with the new law while trying to balance the loss of thousands of teachers in the state? >> good afternoon to you, simone. there's a lot of uncertainty. a lot of teachers say they're frustrated on how to implement -- you mentioned here in sarasota, let me set the scene for you. this is one of several events being held throughout the state of florida today and which governor desantis attended to promote his education agenda, organizers saying there were about 1000 people here, most if not all of them or supporters of the governor full. let's talk a little bit more

about public education because as you mentioned it's becoming highly politicized here in the state of florida as a new school year begins, many teachers are frustrated. they have a lot of unanswered questions on how to implement these new state standards, the parental rights and education bill as you mentioned, are also called by some as the don't say gay law. this essentially was signed by the governor -- and gender identity issues related to sexual orientation for kids kindergarten through third grade. this is one of the flashpoints that the governor mentioned when he spoke to this crowd onstage. once again, reiterating what he wanted to pass this legislation. take a listen. >> it's wrong to sexualize kids an elementary school. it's wrong lead to -- transgender ideology into a first grade curriculum. let's focus on teaching them to read and write and add and

subtract. you do not need to be big -- you don't need to be putting this extraneous stuff in there. it's wrong. it's not right. it's ultimately not going to lead them to being the best students they could be. booker >> under the new law, parents can actually sue teachers that they deem are presenting material that they say or believe is inappropriate. that has a lot of teachers concerned because they are fearful that they may be opening themselves up or this may be opening them up to lawsuits. take a listen to what one teacher had to say about all of this. >> it is frightening big, and i've been teaching for 34 years. i don't have a lot left in my career children that are not going to get that quality education.

gosh i don't know what education will look like in the future with such restrictions. >> and i want to let you know, simone, that there was some opposition here today, but just a very small group of protesters who gathered across the street from this venue to oppose some of these laws and governor laws an governor we will talk to work political panel about all of this, florida, the major issues on the minds of voters and the cost of living. that is according to nbc news new poll. stick with us for all the details.

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nbc news latest polling shows that threat to democracy is overtaken jobs and the economy to be the biggest issue of concern for americans. to know what people should do when they feel there to park means he is under attack? they should vote! they should vote! democracy taking the top concern over the economy? it could sink bill a major boost in enthusiasm among democratic voters? let's get this political panel in to discuss it all. camilla to tell us is a senior politics reporter for insider. this is a former clinton white house aide, and david jolly is also with us. a former republican congressman from florida an msnbc political analyst. folks, let's start with you. this poll also found that enthusiasm for the midterms between republicans and democrats is within the margin of error.

democrats -- five months ago. this is very important. enthusiasm being up means folks can turn people out to vote. why do you think we are seeing these shifts and what do you think democrats can do to keep that momentum until november? >> it is a combination of things, simone. first, we have a supreme court decisions recently starting with the roe v. wade overturning. we have the candidate selection for the republican party, people like herschel walker and j.d. vance who are horrible candidates who are inspiring democrats who want to turn out. thirdly, we have the overreach by the republican party. the post insurrection overreach. doubling down on the denial of democracy, trying to put in place these people who don't have any interest in preserving democracy, who denied the election results of 2020. fourth, we have the success, a string of successes from the biden administration in recent weeks.

it has helped to change the atmosphere, the political climate, with gas prices going down. inflation looking like it's more under control. we have the incident that took place. we have -- the chips act, the infrastructure bill that took place earlier. and of course the i.r.a., the inflation reduction act. >> there is receipts! list the receipts! >> i didn't mean to go on a mile long list, but there's so much happening right now. there is a political atmosphere then there was a little few months ago. >> let's go back to florida. ron desantis is going to be the governor of the state. there's a democratic primary happening on tuesday. you have nikki freaky, she is the agriculture commissioner, she's the only democrat elected statewide. she is facing off against charlie chris, he's made a name for himself in congress. but again, nikki, she's a

statewide elected democrat. camilla, how do you think this is going to check out? at this moment you see both candidates to get to vote for them. really putting it clearly that would round the sentence has been doing these past few weeks, and even most recently with saying that he's going to charge up to 20, 40 -- just for voter fraud. just saying there's more to come if they go in the direction of voting for the incumbent. this is really a paint state -- there's a lot to lose for them. because they really need -- in this upcoming primary, so that they can compete against ronda santas. >> david, you are republican congressman from florida. one, what are your predictions on this democratic matchup? also tell me a little bit about matt gates. he's facing a primary challenger. this is the first -- and investigation into his potential sex trafficking went

public. is matt gates actually going to lose? >> well, probably not, but there are a lot of ballots stories on tuesday in florida. the high profile races, the democratic primary for their goober turn aerial nomination -- nikki freed it really is peelers that it's charlie crist. i know nikki freed's camp is suggesting it's very tight. florida democrats have a decision to make. charlie chris is not proven to be a statewide candidate. he lost one in 2006 and since then lost state wide against rubio and rick scott. he ran for congress in the seat that i used to have. it was re-district. it kind of became a layout for charlie chris. but it appears democrats are trying to go with old faithful and charlie crist is suggesting is going to play the joe biden cart and be the healer and unifier in a state that is incredibly divided under ron desantis's administration. i'll tell you what we are also

watching there. a couple of very maga freedom caucus matt gates tight congressional candidates that might be a household names next week, because the receiving republican nominations in gerrymandered districts. finally, in florida, ron desantis is only use this political capital really and local school board races where he wants to reshape florida education. he has not used it in high-profile races, instead concentrating just on the florida education system. >> so he talked a lot about redistricting in florida. we will be watching on florida's democratic voters primary on tuesday. lots to unpack there. new york also has the primary elections on tuesday. i think keith made an important point earlier about the enthusiasm we're seeing from democrats, all these things that have gotten done. but in new york, we've got some new consolidated congressional districts where democrats are facing off against democrats. kamila, what effect could this have on the house as a whole?

>> this is a concern that a lot of democrats have been bringing to the forefront about gerrymandering and how it could impact congress and just the makeup of it. you have a lot of contentious races going on. really want to take control, keep control of congress and especially the house, and everybody has been talking about -- it's a toss-up, but really taking control of the house. this is really how biden can really carry out his presidential agenda, by having at least a lot of support in the house. this will really impact how congress can really help biden and his upcoming in the last two years, just his presidential agenda. >> speaking of congress, the man who was charged with getting democrats elected in keeping the house was on meet the press this morning. i'm talking about bergeron sean patrick maloney. let me play for you what he said when trump asked about

potential democratic efforts to boost election denier john gibbs who recently defeated republican congressman peter meijer in michigan. to know, peter meijer voted to impeach donald trump after the january 6th insurrection. listen to this. >> i understand that there are difficult moral questions philosophical questions about tactics. that's always true in politics. you better believe it. but here's the deal. we are more likely to win that seat. john gibbs is a weak opponent, extremist, a vicious antichoice record, he can't string a set of policies together that will make sense for western michigan. we will win that seat. we believe that by keeping those dangerous people out of power, we address the larger moral imperative, and that is our job. >> keith, i think in campaigns that you have to make a decision about lines that you are and are not willing to cross, and frankly i think, and not only in this race but in other races, did he try across the line here?

your thoughts? >> yeah, i was hoping you would not ask me about this one. it's a risky strategy and there's always a chance that it may not work and what happens if you end up electing these radical right-wing republican maga candidates because you thought you were's -- this is the danger that democrats fell into the trap in 2016 with donald trump, everybody assumed donald trump would be a great candidate to run again senators out he was not just such a great candidate to run against. he wants the election. i don't know if i get indoors the strategy,, although if it works people will obviously view it like it was a success but there's a moral question as to whether it was the right thing to do and i'm not sure that something that could be answered by me right now. >> it ain't the right thing. i can answer that. it's the wrong thing. thank you all very much. after the break, we're going to the culture corner. former nba star dennis rodman

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jade mathis is back, she is a tv personality and mental health advocate. my friend is joining me me, he's the host of the nationally syndicated radio show, pop nights. i want to start with this dennis rodman stuff, you all. as you, know i've been very worried about britney griner being held in a russian prison. we've been covering it here. apparently, dennis rodman is now on the case. that's right, the entire wnba, u.s. state department, the president of the united states of america, they haven't been able to get russia to release brittney griner yet. but dennis the minister abc news he's going to head over to moscow and bring her home. jade, i'm not holding my breath. is anybody else holding their breath? >> absolutely not, it's so funny. he's going back home to treat new jersey to get his cousin out of jail for a handgun charge.

like, sir, you are going over to another country. he says, you know, i have permission to help this girl out. i'll go next week. is that your strategy? who did you get permission from? your government, your country, the state department issued a travel advisory and told you not to go. told the citizens, do not go. who is the anonymous source that you are getting permission from? this isn't the first time dennis rodman has done something informal in this area with international leaders that has strained relation. >> kim jong-un! donny, do you remember when he secured world peace when he met with kim jong-un of north korea. does the other day i thought i saw north korea firing off more missiles, making south korea nervous. dennis rodman is now talking about putin being cool. what do you have to say about this? >> where dennis is doing is he's turning this into a circus

where he is the person who can't juggle. meanwhile, a real human being is sitting in a foreign country, i'm assuming she is feeling alone and worried about her future. and he just woke up today and was, like you know, what i'm gonna be a diplomat. i'll go over there and i'm gonna secure her release. meanwhile, possibly hindering any real, legal and diplomatic talks that would actually need to happen. >> it is important to remind folks at home that the united states has made a substantial serious offer to russia. we don't yet know if russia has responded. dennis rodman ate the answer. that is what i have to say about that. let's talk a little bit about music. did he and jermaine to pre-has agreed to do a head to head hit four hit battle in atlanta. i don't want anybody out there to think that this is a versus, they are making it perfectly clear that they are not messing with versus because the company that took over versus thriller

television messed with creators. -- thriller apparently hasn't paid, them there's all this drama. there's a legal battle going on these are the versus creators that gave us these live shows that gripped us through the pandemic. do you remember? it everybody has hit the verzuz. . , donny, is the them sending a message? >> this is them putting the middle finger up two verzuz and two trailer net, and to stand behind timberland and being like, look, we were gonna hurt them and -- that's money wise. people are going to turn into the diddy and jermaine the pre one and if it hits, they can do more. >> i'm wondering, i won't be able to see it on ig live because i will be watching. jade, are you watching? >> listen, i already have my gold chain ready. if you're from the 80s, you've been waiting on the stay forever. i have my jersey in the other

room. i will be there. i think i know who's going to win, but i will just wait and see and let it play out. >> we will wait and see. you know, did he mr. love, he's making a play. they're doing it in atlanta, jermaine to pre-'s home turf. he has hits, but you know, bad boy has some longevity as well. we will wait and see. i'm looking forward to seeing at this hit to hit, not to be completed with verzuz. staying on music, there is more happening. i want to talk about elton john and pop protests, britney spears. they are joining forces. the fan base is ecstatic about this. the rocket man himself and the princess of pop have remade john elton's -- elton john's favorite song, tiny dancer. it's very famous, if you hadn't heard, it go out and google. it wherever you don't love your music from, this is the jam. this new single is gonna drop on august 26th. a preview is about to hit your ears right here. take a listen. ♪ ♪ ♪

>> yay or nay, very quickly, donny? yay or nay? >> yay, brittani needs this. >> jade? >> yay, yay, yay! it's giving this is what freedom looks like. this is what a bounce back and a come back looks like. and she's doing it. jade mathis, donny meacham, thank you very much. and thank you for watching simone on this sunday! i'm simone sanders townsend, you can catch me right here on msnbc weekends at 4 pm eastern. and the time over on peacock, where i have brand-new episodes on the msnbc hub every monday and tuesday. for more of the show, including behind the scenes videos, you will not see anywhere else -- find us on instagram, twitter and the tiktok. in the next hour, dnc chair,

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