-- americans deserve more. americans deserve more >> good evening and welcome to politicsnation. tonight's lead, a reason to believe. right now democrats conditioned to expect big losses an upcoming midterm races appear to be evening the score with republicans and by score i mean the perceptible passion and american voters are carrying into november. brand new national polling from nbc news this weekend showing

that democrats have closed the enthusiasm gap with voters less than three months before they cast their ballots. 66% of democrats expressing a high level of interest in midterm races compared to 68% of republicans with the surge of the democratic side attributed at least in part to anger over the supreme courts reversal of roe v. wade, also factoring in to the midterm picture. the web of investigation that appears to be tightening around former president donald trump. nearly three and five americans pulled by nbc news saying that those investigations into trump's alleged wrongdoing should continue after the fbi raid of the florida estate. and the revelation that it was

related to possible espionage violations. of course, all of this new data is about to be field tested in a pair of state primaries tuesday. when in florida, when in new york, whose base comes out more energized ahead of november. we will be watching. alaska not one, but two state wide candidates in trump racist tonight. but first, as always, the perfect guest, joining me now is jaime harrison, chair of the democratic national committee. mr. harrison, thank you for being with us tonight and i want to start off with the new nbc poll data. democrats and republicans are essentially tied over voter enthusiasm. as the dnc chair, i would imagine you are pleased to see that, yet despite the --

on enthusiasm, president biden's approval ratings remain low at 47% of registered voters wanting republicans to take control of congress, versus 45% who won democrats in charge according to the same nbc poll. that's despite congressional republicans going against lower cost for prescription drugs. it gets the federal right to birth control and continuing to back former sitting president who's proximity to several state and federal investigations. your response, mister chair? >> rev, thank you for having me. listen, i have said this once, i have said this twice i will say the thousand times more between now and november. never bet against joe biden and democrats when it comes to delivering for the american people. regardless of with the polls say, when you take a look at

with joe biden, kamala harris and with the democrats have been able to do in the last two years, and you put in the historic perspective, it's nothing short of amazing. it's about delivering for the american people. think about what they have accomplished so far, in this will be the message that we put out there across the country. you start off with the american rescue plan, which really saved so many businesses. historically, like colleges, institutions, cities. it started with a bipartisan infrastructure law. even with that we had 200 republicans in the house who voted no. we just recently got passed this inflation reduction act. not one republican voted for it in either in the house and senate, and this bill is a game-changer in terms of the impact that it will have on the climate. the impact that it will have on prescription drugs along. medicare for the first time, to negotiate the price of prescription drugs.

that is such an important thing for so many seniors across the country. you think about the violence against women act. you think about putting the first black woman on the united states supreme court. the number of black judges -- i can go on and on and on again. joe biden has delivered for the american people, while the republicans have been extreme. these republicans, rev, they want power so desperately that they would vote against their moms on mother's day if that meant that they could get power. we cannot allow them to have that. it can't allow it for the good of the american people. >> what do you think, mister chairman, is the reason that there is not even more enthusiasm or even a change -- do you think it's a problem of messaging? i did it on my radio show. a lot of blacks, why should we go? what are we getting from the democrats? is it a messaging problem, since you've been able to run a litany of accomplishments that

has happened in less than two years? >> i also think people are still dealing with the lingering impact of covid as well, rat. in my household, we still have one of our kids who is still not fully vaccinated. that has prevented us from doing certain things. we are waiting for september, because he will get his last shot. that would open up a whole door for us to do more things and to get back out there. i think many families are still dealing with that, but with they've seen, ref, is that they have a president who is fighting for them. that's why you're starting to see these numbers. i've heard all of the pundits for the past year or so, you know in midterms democrats -- the party in the white house will lose election on this and that. we are now starting to see big people big -- american people are starting to wake up. when you have over 200 republicans vote against the pact act for veterans, think

about that. a bill to help veterans who were impacted by these chemicals in some of these pits. you've got a republican party voting against that. you've got a republican party voting against gun safety bills. violence against women act. they see the extremism and they're starting to come back home. the momentum is on the democrats side. we're seeing the president numbers creep up as well. that is what we want to see at this point as people start to wake up and realize what's going on. and the democratic party, the dnc, just as we grabbed put a seven -- millions of dollars if you put it that way, on tv, on radio, in print, to make sure that the message is getting out of the american people about how joe biden and the democrats have delivered for them in the republican league -- >> we have a handful of nominated continents during primaries in two states.

tuesday, new york. what are your expectations and how will you gauge the two that are left and moving forward beyond tuesday? >> we will continue to look at the trends. we saw what happened in kansas. that's not a traditional democratic state. but overwhelmingly, women and men, republicans and democrats stood up and said we are tired of the extremism of the republican party as it relates to the issue of abortion and women's right to control their own bodies. this is about taking away the freedom of women in this country. for the first time in 50 years, we are retracting our freedoms in america. it's unheard of. but it's led by the republican party. we're going to continue to look at those trends. learn from that and the right language is. make sure we put that language and our messages and outreach efforts. i feel really really good about

where we are right now. we've got some amazing senate candidates, while mitch mcconnell was talking about the deads that he has in his party right now. we see the same type of duds in the republican side in the -- we're going to continue to put the message out for the great candidates that we have and in the end, i think we're going to buck history just like we did in 2020. >> let me ask you this. we're out of time, mister chairman. president biden and congressional democrats have strong together some big wins in recent weeks. big winds. that's the most visible, being the passage and signing of the inflation reduction act, but some strategists have cast -- has given the party something to run on as the primary season gives way to the general election campaign. that and of course donald trump's escalating -- trump aside, what are the democrats biggest selling points with less than three months to go? you've always shot street with

me, even before you were chairman. what are the selling points? frankly, as one who has our always held everybody accountable, think that biden is doing a lot more than i expected, what is the selling point you're going to give to the public? >> the selling point is this, rev. with a 50/50 senate and sometimes less than a five seat majority in the house, joe biden and the democrats have delivered one of the strongest economies we have seen in american history. they've delivered real climate change. historic. no other country in the world has done what we just did in the inflation reduction act to bring down emissions. we have seen record unemployment, record job creation. we have helped make sure that american jobs are still there. bottom line is this. democrats have delivered for the american people, and there's so much more that we can do, and that's why we need a few more votes in the united states senate and we need to keep the house and we need to make sure that we pick up state

houses and -- and send back some of these folks who don't believe in one person, one vote, on the republican side. if we do that, america will continue to progress. otherwise we give jim jordan and kevin mccarthy, and a bunch of the clowns on the republican side an opportunity to put this country in the ditch. we cannot allow that to happen. >> all right, there's a lot at stake. thank you, chairman jaime harrison of the dnc. from a national point of view to a local one. joining me now is charles booker, democratic candidate for senator of kentucky. thank you for coming on today mr. booker. and for joining us. okeryou've recently made histors the first black nominee in a federal election in the state of kentucky. as you know, the states democratic candidate for u.s.

senate, running against two term incumbent republican senator rand paul, of course you sought the challenge, kentucky's other senator mitch mcconnell for his seat in 2020, but could not secure the nomination. now you have the nomination and you have been state legislator. you've been one of the main advocates of some cases like breonna taylor. talk about the effort to break the stranglehold republicans seem to have on kentucky since. >> she shoe, rand, there is a fly in here. rev, great to be with you here today. you're exactly right. we are defying the odds right now. we're showing that change is possible, even in a place where we are often counted out. the stranglehold has really been ignoring regular people. i'm building a coalition of kentucky's from the hoods, every walk of life, because we're speaking about issues. we are going beyond the political division. we're talking about the challenges we face and show the

audacity to call rand paul out, and because of that we are making history, and we are -- we're going to win this race. >> kentucky's democratic governor and eager siya announced last months that he plans to back your run for the senate. you have been endorsed by progressives like bernie sanders, liz maguire, cory booker, but even as you make and pursue history, you've said that racist experiences inspired your senate run. can you elaborate on that? what would it mean to you and for the state of kentucky to become its first black senate? >> well, first of all, i stand in this moment understanding the importance of shining the light and breaking barriers, and making it clear that as a kentucky in my family in -- some of you who more enslaved in the commonwealth. some of whom -- in the commonwealth of kentucky. to be here now, talking about

how we end poverty. how we make sure everyone has quality health care. how we support our veterans. how we take care of our loved ones. make sure we have clean air, clean water and repair our infrastructure. this is a huge moment. it's a reminder to so many who have been crying out for justice that change is still possible, and we have to meet this moment together. >> mr. booker, earlier this month, the department of justice charged for former -- metro police department members with violating breonna taylor's civil rights in the 2020 police raid that resulted in her killing. i've heard you say that taylor was a good friend of your family, and that she was actually at the funeral for a cousin of yours who was tragically murdered in 2016. and you described attending taylor's funeral back in 2020. you visited -- the network and talked about issues of civil rights.

you have been involved. can you talk to me about with that meant to you? especially during a time where you are also running for u.s. senate. what is your reaction to this latest charges against the officers involved in the killing? >> reverend, so many people across kentucky and across this country are tired. to call out for justice and cryo for humanity isn't exhausting. there are times where you feel like change is not going to come. but we are reminded that it's still possible. the announcement of the arrest of officers finally get to the federal level, because our attorney general failed us. it was a reminder that justice and accountability could still be met big. and even today, i'm heartbroken just thinking about all the pain that so many, not just kentuckians, the people across the country have gone to in this cry for justice. i learned a good friend, an organizer in the movement, chris wells lost his life.

in this moment of time, i'm hoping this campaign could be a testament to the love and hope and potential of us not just meeting this moment, but continuing to fight for the justice. i'm encouraged by the progress and accountability. there is so much more work to be done. here in kentucky and across the country. >> since we're out of time, eastern kentucky has been ravaged by the severe flooding in recent weeks, with more than 1000 people rescued after torrential rains tore through the state last month. rescue teams are searching through creeks, rubble, work crews trying to restore power and water to homes. residents desperate to repair those homes and lives after the flooding. and of course, you have the president and first lady visiting the state after the disaster. can you speak to the devastation that many residents in eastern kentucky are still

experiencing? >> reverend, the devastation is really hard to put inwards. places that i've worked through the years, places that i've seen thriving have been completely washed away. church is gone, businesses gone. in this moment of pain just like when the tornado hit and kentucky, we've shown up as family. we are organizing together. it's not about party but humanity. the one person who has not been there is rand paul and the people of kentucky see it. our infrastructure is crumbling. we understand why president biden is showing leadership on the infrastructure act and it's critical. we need investments in our home and land so that we can have a thriving economy, but we have a lot of work ahead. i've seen it on my prayers to eastern kentucky, everyone joining us and support, go to charles booker dot org slash crisis response. help us organize and move forward. >> charles booker, thank you for being with us. after the break, basketball steps his game up in the name of democracy.

later, how texas impending trigger law on abortion access could have consequences beyond its own borders. first, my colleague richard louis with today's other top news stories. richard? >> good sunday to you. some stories are following for. you combine all -- the car bombing kills -- they're looking into the incident. they've opened a criminal murder case. the advisor of ukrainians president denied any ukrainian involvement. first lady jill biden no longer in quarantine as of today. she just received two negative covid test results and a spokesperson says she will join president biden in delaware where he is vacationing. wendy says they are pulling letters from sandwiches amid an e. coli outbreak. the cdc was trying to see if the romain lettuce was the cause. they believe at least 37 people across four states are affected with ten hospitalized. more politics nation with reverend al sharpton after the break. wit reverend al sharpton after the break.

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that two point gop is down from a whopping 17 points in march and eight points in may. and this comes as threats to democracy tops the list of the most important issues heading into the midterms. carlos, wood is beyond the decline and enthusiasm among republican voters? >> rev, i think there's two big factors. number one, democrats are on a winning streak. they've gotten some big things passed through congress. the biden administration has had some winds overseas. there's a renewed energy the democratic party. i think the democratic base has a renewed faith in their leaders. on the republican side who has come to the forefront? donald trump again. donald trump motivates some republican voters but we also know that he motivates the democratic base. so the more headlines we get

having to do with donald trump with everything he did in 2020 with the big lie the more energized these democrats get and the harder it's going to be for republicans to have those big winds in congress and a lot of people have been prognosticating for sometime. >> adrian, on tuesday voters in new york and florida will cast their ballots in critical primary elections. one of the most closely races is in new york's 12th district. -- too long service congress members of nearly 30 years respectively against each other due to their districts being redrawn and partially combined. according to a loophole from emerson college, congressman jerry nadler is leading his closest challenge. carolyn maloney, by 22 points ahead of the democratic primary. what makes this race so significant? rev, it is significant because you have to longtime entrenched

incumbents running against each other. both served as current committee chairs and congress. this is something new york doesn't see very often. in fact, you don't see it happening across the country very often. these are two people who have progressive records who have been part of the progressive caucus. they have been longtime allies. it really is challenging. there -- we have covered this to, there's been controversy about the maps. again, this is our destructing played out. it's unfortunate that the democrats will use one of these two. congressman nadler and congressman maloney have been allies of speaker pelosi. it looks like nadler has the edge. you also know it is august in new york. primaries are -- turnout can be strange. it's going to be on both of them to figure out how they can get their base to turn out. i think that-elect the actual and will be closer than it is in the polling. >> it's about getting people

out. you think there is a lot of conversation about the maps being drawn. that might be an understatement. let me stay with you a minute, adrian. next week, president biden will be in pennsylvania to give remarks on his safer america plan that reduces gun violence to save lives. then, in the coming weeks, the biden administration will also summit united we stand, countering the corrosive effects of hate fueled violence on our democracy public safety. according to the white house on friday, this was -- this comes after the heinous attack in buffalo, where ten black people were killed in a mass shooting at a supermarket. as well as hate motivated crimes in pittsburgh, el paso, atlanta and a number of u.s. cities that got some of us in the civil rights communities of all communities to come together to -- right now we are seeing a rise

in far-right violent threats. what responsibility, adrian, the republicans have to tamper down their rhetoric to lower the temperature? >> rev, they have all the responsibility in the world. i want to applaud you for all the work that you have done and continue to do in the space. i'm glad the biden administration is focusing on this. they put a lot of their muscle behind getting the inflation reduction act passed. they passed four major economic bills in a year and a half an office. they're not wasting any time with the house and senate to try to get this other legislation passed. also, focusing on the issues that maybe took a backseat to some of these major economic policies that just passed. i think it's smart to the administration is doing. this i think it is incumbent upon president biden in his allies in the white house. his colleagues, that they draw the contrast with the republicans to the point that you just made. it is not the democrats that are using divisive rhetoric to

try to divide our country, it is coming from the maga wing of the republican party. not only does the president need to go out there and show leadership what he has done before. but this big way, in september, when he holds the summit -- it is also important that they draw the contrast with the lack of leadership from the republican side, and the fact of the republican party, the maga wing in particular, has been using this divisive rhetoric to divide our country. they know, raf, it's the only way they're gonna try to get more votes. by revving up that -- right wing base of the republican party, which unfortunately, is oftentimes energized by this kind of divisive, hateful rhetoric. >> carlos, texas trigger law, banning nearly all abortions in texas after u.s. supreme court's reversal of roe. it takes effect in less than four days. the law enhances criminal penalties for medical

professionals attempting to perform abortions. making the attempted itself a second degree felony. that is up to 20 years in prison for a successful abortion. that becomes a first degree felony, with the possibility of life in prison. texas already has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country. banning the procedure up to six weeks. what are you hearing from people in the state that you are in, florida, about the future of abortion rights there? >> rev, there is some concern that we could see some of these policies here. all these republican governors and legislators are always trying to outdo one another. but i think kansas has become a cautionary tale for a lot of republican leaders throughout the country. they're starting to understand that most americans just don't support these policies. it's not just women. you look at the polling, it's not just democrats either.

there are a lot of independents and moderate republicans that reject these policies. we certainly saw that in kansas. so republicans, i think, will be more cautious. there is no talk in florida of making the laws more restrictive. i think republicans understand that there could be some serious political peril and republicans at the national level are already seeing that in polling and indifferent with election results. we will see. but i think in texas there will be a backlash. i think a lot of republican governors and legislators are going to start taking a couple steps backwards on this issue. >> adrian, carlos, thank you both for being with us. coming up, the attacks on the mccain family and close to decertify presidential elections. arizona's race for governor is looking a lot like 2020. by next -- mike next guests will have a plan -- will be right back. >> hey, there tonight at nine

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or trump filed an election -- what does this conduct say about the political climate and threat of violence towards those that stand up to a false election and false election claims. >> honestly it's one of the most daunting things about being in politics today. it's having a chilling -- and also people stepping into the line -- there's a lot of -- to make sure the wheels keep turning where they're supposed to. we'rewe'r this is dangerous.

it's dangerous to our democracy. we have elected leaders and other politicians who are continuing to incite the false allegation, inciting these threats against people like myself and other election workers. it is not okay. a need to be held accountable. it's wet we are up against in this election. we need election leaders who are going to stand up for the truth and tackle the real issues we're facing, cannot continue to litigate an election that happened two years ago and spread these false allegations. i need folks to join me in that at katie hobbs dot org. >> time for one last question. the phoenix area has been a 35% rise and homelessness according to a report by the maricopa association of government. you said on twitter that -- clueless when it comes to tackling issues like this.

she has proposed a ban on urban camping and has alluded to penalizing homeless people say her plan will get people off the streets. one way or another. quote, how do you plan to tackle the complex and systemic issue of homelessness in arizona if you're elected governor? >> i'm a social worker. my first job out of college was working with homeless youth. i've been intimately involved with this issue, and when i could say is that it is very complex. you can't just arrest people of homelessness. there are many factors that lead people to be in the situations. we have to tackle it from a systemic perspective. i hate to call it a plan, but it shows that she has no real understanding of how to tackle these kind of complex problems. first of all, we don't have enough services to provide for these people. saying you have to take services, that's part of which

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