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archives which alerted the justice department. eventually leading to the fbi search of mar-a-lago two weeks ago. according to the "times," another set of documents at mar-a-lago was given to the justice department in june and additional documents then were recovered in the fbi search. all told, 300 classified documents recovered. nbc news has reached out to the doj, the fbi and the white house and president trump's spokesperson for comment. but did not immediately receive responses. joining us now, national security analyst for nbc news and msnbc clint watts. it is good to have you with us this morning. this is a story we've been talking about for two weeks. people suspected there were many classified documents based on what we heard from the initial warrant. but no one knew there were 300 classified documents as the "new york times" reports this morning. >> that is right, willie. i think each day we learn more.
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and the thing that is remarkable, is how many times the fbi and the national archives went back to the trump organization and said, hey, we know you have documents, turn them over. and then we learned from the article last night not only with president trump personally involved in reviewing what was sent back to the government but there were still documents left afterwards. i think that is why we saw this search warrant. it sounds like they tries every measure possible to get the documents back under their control and the cia and nsa and fbi, this wasn't some mistaken taking of boxes from the white house. this was cherry picked information across all agencies. highly classified and compartmentalized and it really speaks to why. why keep these when you know that the fbi and national archives have been to your place different times, why go to such length and that makes the last
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tranche of documents particularly interesting after the other reviews and submissions back to the government in the months prior. >> that timeline you laid out is so important here. because we're talking about january of this year before the national archives even got any of those documents after a lot of pushing and pulling and prodding it took them a year to get those and they realized they didn't have all of those and then they get more in june and then they realize there is probably more in there. we need to go get them and eventually getting the search warrant. but as a former fbi agent, i'm curious what you think about having these documents in the basement of a country club effectively given the kind of exposure that might be out there in some of those documents. obviously the former president and his defenders will say oh, come on, he just took some things home, some souvenirs from his presidency but what do you make what could be in the boxes, in the documents. >> what was interesting from the search warrant, in an array of
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documents, multiple classification and top secret and sci which is the most valuable and closely held secrets. there is another interesting little thread in that article from last night and that is that the fbi is trying to recover more surveillance tape of the location. this could be several different things. they want to know how well the dpomts were protected, what they were being used for. but i would offer one other lower probability but highly damaged scenario which is what if a foreign government or some other entity knew there were documents in and around mar-a-lago and they were wanting to try and find out where they are, what if that is what the fbi is looking for. it is well-known, many times it came up in mar-a-lago, that random people would just drift through there, that foreign intelligence services that they were aware that mar-a-lago was a place to go for if you wanted to gather information. what if that is another extension of this. i think that is where the most
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damaging sort of thread that i've seen across the board in those documents is the espionage act. what were those documents to be used for. it is one thing if president trump, former president trump was trying to show off kim jong-un letters. it is a very different thing if there were national secrets in there that were a value to a power power or maybe being used for some sort of economic purpose. so all of this needs to be weighed with probability. and i think as the investigations, we need to really watch from the department of justice to why they had to go this length and why trump would not turn over the last tranche of documents and rather than having to be taken back by the fbi. >> you're talking about america's adversaries and those who might wish the country harm and would like to get a peek after those documents. i've been thinking about america's allies and what this might suggest to them about the security of any kind of confidential information they may have handed over to the former president or anything
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that might be about america's allies in those documents, there would have been some kind of speculation that one of them might be about president macron. we don't know. we don't know what is in there. even if it is not about president macron, there is something about knowing that your ally is reliable in the handling of its secret documents, which is reassuring to countries like great britain or france or germany and then to think, well actually, maybe those documents are not handled quite as carefully as we thought. i imagine the flip side might be true, that is not very reassuring. >> that is absolutely, right, katy. it is a two part problem. with all of our partners, which we did intelligence sharing with, they must be quite alarmed this morning and over the last few weeks as they've seen that former president trump had information and they don't know what is in there. and like you said, the search warrant addressed president
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macron of france, that would be catastrophic if there were secrets that were there or being used in a way that were other than just souvenirs. meaning they were some sort of economic or political gain or to be held over someone's head. and that is the scariest part and it cuts down on intelligence sharing from partners. what partner of the united states wants to share information into the u.s. government knowing that president trump might be running for re-election again in the next two years or someone else might come in and feel like they have the need or desire for political purposes to broadly declassify all sorts of information. the second part is the stress it puts on the intelligence services in the united states. it was very clear throughout the trump administration officials were worried at all levels about not sharing too much information with the president. there is nothing worse than that. the president should have all of the information at his disposal but they were worried that the information would leak out and we saw that happen where foreign intelligence dripped out through
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the president and wasn't done in a professional or a consistent manner. >> former fbi special agent and msnbc national security analyst clint watts putting some perspective on the news this morning out of the "new york times." thank you so much. we appreciate it. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell is brushing off concerns about the state of american democracy. speaking to reporters in his home state of kentucky yesterday, the top republican was asked to comment on a new poll from nbc news where voters ranked threats to democracy as the number one issue facing the country. here is mcconnell's response. >> we have a very solid democracy. um, very little election fraud. there is some. i mean we've got people in kentucky that go to jail for that. it happens occasionally. but our democracy is solid. and i don't think of the things that we need to worry about, i wouldn't be worried about that. >> throughout the primary season
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the democratic party has spent money on ads to boost the far right or more pro-trump candidates running in the republican primary. the idea behind that strategy was the more extreme opponent, theoretically, would be easier to defeat in the general election. joining us now is correspondent for politico david siderses who recent piece is entitled there's a huge divide among democrats. you write one sunday afternoon in november, several of president jimmy carters aides and advisers met on a zoom for a private call. for three or four years they have had been meeting like this to keep in touch but more recently as republicans went from initial brief discomfort with the january 6 attack, to rallying behind former president trump's false assertion that the election was stolen, their conversations had been to become more urgent, focusing on the state of american democracy and the assessment was grim. yet as members of the carter
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groups discussed, the prospect collapsed there was another crisis that troubled them just as much. fact that as a voting issue, so few democrats seem to care. even after the experience of 2020 and the riot at the capitol on january 6, 2021 and even as republicans parent trump's falsehoods, democracy have polled low on the list of concerns. january 6 committee hearings were encouraging but democrats competing in elections this year have not been pressing the issue anywhere near as hard as other concerns. so, obviously, david, when you look at some of the numbers that, nbc poll did show that 21% of americans view this -- preservation of democracy as the number one issue facing the country right now. it is not if you follow the money where democrats are spending. it is not where they're driving their messages in a lot of these races. >> that is right. i think talking to democrats after that poll came out and clearly was newsworthy because
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it was something different. i think there is not yet a belief that that is gelled in a sufficient number of polls that they'll be putting money there based on that one poll. but for democrats who care about this stuff, that poll was encouraging and i would liken it to climate change and that is a big motivating issue but in the totality of the polling universe, it didn't rise to something they were willing to spend money on in the early days. >> it might be in the abstract of preservation of democracy isn't front and center did you given the january 6 committee hearings which are on going and the argument from the white house and some democrats that we have to keep these people away from our democracy because look at what they did to it on january 6 or attempted to do it it. is that taking hold with voters or is it just more about the economy and inflation and the issues that impact their lives? >> no, i think the one area
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where democrats have found some success or think they do have some success and republicans are worried about it if you talk to them, is not so much an attack on election being overturned or democracy itself, but it is using that as part of a broader puzzle to paint republicans as extremists. and you do see that. you see in some of the advertising the use of republicans' position on roe in certain races, on schools or on guns and pulling those altogether to say this is an extremist outside of the mainstream. so do think as part of a broader attack, democrats find it useful. but as a stand alone, we just haven't seen evidence of that. >> it is only august and the midterms aren't until november. but given that there are so few people whose minds are persuadable in this country, would you think that looking at polls that come out now is a pretty good guide to what will happen in the midterms? >> i think it is really the best
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guide we have right now. or maybe that is not even true. the special elections including the one tonight in new york and that we'll all be looking at is pretty good guides, too. no, a lot could change over 3 months. heck, think where we were three months ago and three months before that. i know we say it over and over, but things are very, very fluid. and i think that is one of the problems for democrats who want to get voters excited about democracy. is that the electorate tends to have a short appetite for what it gets excited about. and that is the same problem that people who care about climate change have trying to talk to voters, too. these are relatively slow-moving disasters that they're trying to make people get interested in and that is difficult. >> and there are a lot of republicans on the ballot who participated in the attempt to stage the coup around the 2020 election and some of them doing quite well. national political correspondent david siders, thanks for being with us this morning. a republican state senator from colorado announced
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yesterday that he will become a democrat, citing the republican party's widespread embrace of 2020 election conspiracies as the reason. moderate state senator kevin priola, said he was horrified by the january 6 attack at the united states capitol. he writes, i cannot continue to be part of a political party that is okay with a violent attempt to over turn a free and fair election and continues to peddle claims that the 2020 election was stolen. he noted he still plans to support conservative causes like school choice and gun rights. coming up next here, democratic nominee for texas governor, beto o'rourke joins our conversation as they will enact the strictest abortion law. we'll ask him what he's doing to try to fight against that and more. plus, steve kornacki grabs his spot at big board with a look at two democratic members of congress and friends who chair significant committees on capitol hill. now having to battle each other
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18 after the hour. and just two days a trigger law in texas will make it significantly more dangerous to get or perform an abortion in that state. the near total ban on abortions will go into effect on thursday with no exception for rape or incest. if a doctor is caught performing the procedure, they could face life in prison and a fine up of to $100,000. joining us now, texas nominee for governor, beto o'rourke, author of a new book out today titled "we've got to try, how the fight for voting rights
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makes everything else possible." curious your take on this trigger law that will go into effect in a couple of days that is truly extreme with no exemptions for rape or incest. what do you propose to do about that if elected governor. >> these two issues are definitely connected. if you have a vibrant thriving democracy, where the right to vote is respected, you do not end with a total abortion ban with no exception for rape or incest in a state with one of the highest levels of maternal mortality, three times as deadly for black women in the country, in the developing world for that matter. same is true for our public schools, our failing grid, 13 weeks after uvalde and no action from the governor, so turning out to vote and winning this election in november is a first order of business. and then ensuring that every woman in the state of texas can make her own decisions about her own body and her own feature is
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a thing we have to be focused on, working with democrats and republicans and independents. the people of texas and making sure that women here lead the way as they did in 1973, jane roe of course a texas woman as were her two attorneys, sarah weddington and linda coffee who successfully prevailed upon an all male united states supreme court to win protection for the right to privacy to make these personal and sometimes painful decisions. the women of texas won that right 50 years ago. the women of texas will win it back in 2022. >> and that trigger law would impose a fine of $100,000 and a long prison sentence for any physician who performs an abortion going into effect on thursday. you mentioned the sort of nexus of with these two issues with abortion rights and voting rights. it is the subject of your book "we've got to try." we've been talking about the sail yens of preserving democracy as a voting issue. why do you think that is so critical right now?
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>> i'm confident that when people can vote, and express their desires, the opportunities that they see, work on the problems that they have in thur communities, we're going to be a much better state and a better country for it. but when you lock up people or lock them outside of this democracy, as you've done in texas, 7 million who were eligible to vote did not cast a ballot in 2020 right here in texas. not because they're lazy, not for any lack of love of democracy. but because greg abbott and the republican legislature has made this the tough estate in the nation bar none in which to cast a ballot or register so vote. you get these outcomes so i look back to texas history, like lawrence nixon who fought against the white primary from 1923 to 1944 and who signaled supreme court victory set the path for lbj voting rights act of 1965 and barbara jordan's
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extension of that in 1975. in other words, willie, not only could we overcome this current attack on democracy, we've done it before against much larger ods but it is going to take all of us doingal we can with what we have, where we are right here in texas and again first order of business, winning this election in november. >> mr. o'rourke, it is katy kay, could i talk to you about hispanic voters in texas. a group democrats have seen the some signs that the republicans have had some successes nominee ating hispanic women. what are you doing to try to reach out to hispanic voters? there is always what i hear from hispanic voters is democrats come to us every four years and they talk to us where they think we should be, but republicans are talking to us where we actually are. what are you doing particularly on these issues of abortion and gun rights to try to make sure that hispanic voters feel their
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vote is not being taken for granted by you as a democrat. >> if the great sin committed by the republican party was to disenfranchise voters based on race or their ethnicity, then the one committed by democrats has been to take the same voters for granted. if your black or brown you're likely going to vote for us and we don't need to spend time delivering for you. and what we saw in 2020 is a reflection of that. but we're there all of the time. i'm going to be making my seventh visit on the first of september and we're showing up in harris county and dallas county and places that you might not have heard of like madisonville and greenville and dumas and going to every part of the state to make sure no one is taking for granted and written off. and if i listen as much as i speak and when i do that i hear that economic concerns in a state where the minimum wage is
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still $7.25 an hour, the ability to see a doctor in a state that is the least insured in the nation, our failing schools because we have a governor that is attacking schoolteachers in the state of texas. all of these issues rise to the front. and our agenda of raising the min minimum wage to $15 an hour, expanding medicaid, supporting our school teachers and our counselors and librarians making sure they don't have to work on two or three jobs, just connecting with that kid in that classroom, that's res on ating across the state. it is showing up in polling, showing us not only outperforming greg abbott against hispanic voters but outperforming how any democrat has done in recent history. we're not going to take that for granted and we'll show up and connect with the people we want to serve. >> and voters across state of texas because they live an ott border, is what is happening right now.
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a new record was set this year already. this fiscal year which ends at the end of september for border apprehensions. they're going to cross two million of them breaking last year's record and governor abbott is sending buses full of migrants to new york city and to washington, d.c. to make a point about the crisis there. what do you propose to do, first of all do you agree it is a crisis and how do you change the tide of what is happening down there? >> we need solutions. we've had years of stunts, greg abbott has been governor for more than seven years and now we find ourselves busing migrants to new york and d.c. and activating 10,000 members of guard and the wall, none of that has done a single thing. and a texas based guest worker program so if you want to come and work in our state and you live in another country, we want to make sure there is a legal, safe and orderly path for to you
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do that. if you're going to come here, you have to follow the law. we're going to make sure that we update our laws can have not been updated since ronald reagan was a president of the united states. i want to do the same for those who want to unify for their families xg right now their waiting six years for their claim to be adjudicated and let's go to six week and if you pass that bar, welcome to america and if you don't, you must return to your country of origin. we could focus on those who want to do us harm, trafficking in fentanyl or human beings. right now they're a needle in the haystack and if we could focus on those who would do us harm. those are solutions and they come from the people of texas. >> the new book is titled "we've got to try, how the fight for voting rights makes everything else possible." for texas governor beto o'rourke, thanks for being here. we appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up next here, a new
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public school teachers are on strike for the first time in nearly 50 years. they're demands include smaller class sizes and air conditioning in every school. with classes set to start tomorrow, the district is scrambling to find substitutes. >> our community's children are the board's priority and our final offer we felt did reflect that. >> we are doing this for the students. >> reporter: the columbus clash, the latest classroom flash point. over the weekend roughly 2,000 custodial and transportation workers in philadelphia public schools also voted to strike. demanding better pay and -- >> you all want active shooter training? >> they're asking for the training, but you think they would be getting already. >> reporter: a sobering stressor for modern teachers who also balance ever changing covid restrictions and soaring rates of anxiety among students. it is taking a toll with an estimated 300,000 public school
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teachers and staff having left the field between february 2020 and may of 2022. a recent nbc news poll finding just 25% of parents are confident public schools will be adequately staffed this year. in columbus, after years of remote learning, mom kristen worried how her first grader will feel when his teacher isn't in class on wednesday. >> we struggled as a family to maintain the sense of normalcy and the routine. so this is just sort of another log on the fire. >> maggie vespa reporting there. katy, that number 300,000 teachers retiring in the last couple of years jumps off the chalkboard at you. and they've been so heroic to make it work and figuring it out with mixed messages about what they could do and when they could come back but it is a crisis and almost in every school district that there century enough teachers and bus drivers and custodians to fill
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the positions. >> and they say there has to be air-conditioning. how are kids going to learn when it is sweltering hot and some classes don't have air-conditioning. they've gone through two years of the pandemic. they also have the threat of school violence and school shootings which must be stressful not just for students and parents but also for teachers as well. there is a culmination of things that are really stressing teachers out and they need to put -- we reported yesterday on election workers who were also quitting because they felt they were under threat. there seems to be a durj of civil servants that aren't getting the support they need from the public. >> could add nurses to that list. we've asked so much of these people. we have to take care of them. coming up next, steve kornacki is breaking down the key races you should be watching in today's primaries in new york, florida and beyond. "morning joe" is coming right back.
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>> we know that donald trump is the greatest threat to our national security. >> reporter: in florida the two candidates battling it out to take on republican governor and potential presidential hopeful ron desantis, former republican governor turned democratic congressman charlie crist, and the state's agriculture commissioner nikki fried, focusing on abortion after roe v. wade was overturned, crist aiming to make the case he'ser candidate to take on desantis. >> that is the difference. >> reporter: and in new york a fierce battle between carolyn maloney and jerry nadler. both have been in congress since 1992 and they're duking it out over who is more progressive but the presidential race always in the background. maloney made waves when she was asked whether president biden should run again. >> when you run or if you run,ly be there 100%. >> kristen welker there. and let's bring in steve
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kornacki at the big board. le's start with the special election in new york where people are looking at how this is going to go because it may tell them something about the fall. >> it is in the hudson valley, in the catskills, the 19th congressional district and the democrat is pat ryan and the republican matt mollin. and that was not supposed to happen. that was supposed to show you that this is the ultimate swing district. this went for joe biden by a small margin in 2020. had gone for donald trump by a small margin in 2016 and voted further back for barack obama. so in many ways it is tracked with the country over the most recent presidential elections here. and so we've been talking about these special elections potentially, especially since that supreme court ruling over turning roe v. wade. raising the question has democratic enthusiasm gone up.
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we have seen the generic ballot and get tighter in the special elections potentially offering us a clue. so we'll be paying attention to this one tonight. and then this is the back drop. these are the other recent special elections and you could draw a line, that supreme court ruling that overturned roe v. wade happened right here. so there was a special election in south texas in the 34th district and this is a very heavily hispanic district here, and you see biden had won it by four. the republican vote won here as opposed to biden. so there was a big swing right there. but then the supreme court decision came out and you could see since then, in the first district of nebraska, trump carried it by 15 and in a special election, the republican carried it but it was only by five points, the first district in minnesota, trump carried it by ten and the republican carried it but only by four points. now we're in this 19th district of new york as i say, joe biden
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had won it by two, so let's see what tonight brings. again democrats would love to pull off the upset and win this thing outright or keep it very close. republicans would like to make a statement with a stronger margin of victory here in this special election. so i think this is the biggest thing that we're watching tonight, going to be watching tonight is the 19th congressional district in new york. the special election there. but as you mentioned, too, there are some big stories here in these democratic primaries. karen maloney, jerry nadley. maloney's represented the upper east side of manhattan. nadler, the west side. their district has been merged. the third candidate is going to lose that seat in congress. this tenth district of new york, mondaire jones, he basically moved about 75 miles south into this newly created district.
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these are all new constituents for him here. dan goldman, who was active in the impeachment of donald trump, he's running in this race. he poured a lot of his own money. crowded field. down in florida here, it's that democratic primary. charlie crist, once the republican governor of the state. he switched parties. ran as a democratic for governor. went to congress. running as a democrat for governor against nikki fried. winner gets ron desantis and of course, that fall race there, whoever the democrat is. we watch closely because of a large expectation that desanctis will try to roll this campaign into a presidential campaign in 2024. >> boy, a lot to watch for and i know you'll be there for it all. steve kornacki, thanks so much. we'll be right back with more "morning joe." right back with "morning joe."
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joe" reporter, daniella. not just a beloved colleague, she's author of the other. how to own your power at work as a woman of color. great to see you. congratulations on pub day. >> thank you so much. can't believe it's here. >> we love working alongside you. we've watched you rise up this place by working your butt off. tell me why you decided to write
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this book. >> it's really about talking to marginalized communities, women of color, children of immigrants who have been told their otherness, that their difference rs a liability. while this book has tons of practical and tactical advice on how to own your power at work, it also traces back about the idea and the origin of the other, right? because you and i know that whoever told you you were different, it usually comes from a projection of fear, a limited understanding, and just, you know, this is all about changing the narrative. >> and cultural assumptions. she writes about lessons. she writes for immigrants, children of immigrants and women of color, there are different rules for climbing the career ladder. the same things that made us stand out early in our career, don't translate into success. things like working hard, being overly grateful for everything to the point you stop asking for
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me following the ebb and flow of your career instead of pushing back when needed. these are old rules we've convinced ourselves are good and safe. otherness implies our -- when we embrace our duality and lean into who we are, our different backgrounds, lived experiences, cultural knowledge, we can use it as a soft and hard skill at work. how has that manifested itself for you? >> it's not just me, but the women i spoke to for this book as well. the immigrant ethos, it's a great thing. my mom and grandma, god bless them. they're very smart women, but when it comes to giving advice about corporate america, not so good. putting your head down, doing the work, being overly grateful. you and i know that nobody's going to notice if you don't constantly tell people your wins and make sure people are noticing you. a lot of people i spoke to for the book feel overlooked,
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underpaid, and it's something that needs to change. the same rules don't really apply when we're in year three, four, and five. we really have to understand our value and tell people in a different way of how we, you know, found success in the beginning of our career. >> we had such an interesting moment for this book, and congratulations, i'm so glad it's come out now. there's so much talk, millions of dollars being spent on diverse programs in the united states. i wonder where sometimes those go wrong and they could learn from reading your book. it's one thing to get people through the door and say look, what a wonderful, diverse team we have, but then how do you make sure people move up the chain? in a way, it's the hierarchy itself that needs to change as much the women that are trying to climb it. >> oh, absolutely. there's certainly a layer here that is systemic and institutional that needs to change and i heard time and time again from women who have been put in positions at work because
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you know, they're diverse and the company talks a big talk about wanting to give them a seat at the table that when they actually get there, they're not given equity. so i think this is as much of a call for women on how to be able to tactically be able to take a more space at work and how to do that, but it's also a message for managers and employers on actually giving women of color, not just a seat at the table, but a platform to have a voice and equity. >> and boy, have you done it here and you've earned every bit of it. we're going to talk much more about your new book when mika's back in a couple of days. the other, how to own your power at work as a woman of color is out today and we are thrilled for daniella. congrats. good to see you. all right. that does it for us this morning. we'll see you soon. jose diaz-balart picks up the
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coverage now. good morning. this morning, new reporting about the number of classified documents recovered by federal authorities at trump's home in mar-a-lago. plus, overseas, a dire security alert from the u.s. embassy in kyiv warning americans that russia may strike ukrainian civilian and government infrastructure in the next couple of days. and fresh off his trip to taiwan, this democratic congressman will give us his take on relations. plus, the new complaints from a twitter whistleblower. and in florida and new york, primary day. where a series of races will determine who runs this november.
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