good to be with you. i'm katy tur. there might have been a lot there. new reporting from "the new york times" details the volume and sensitive of the records donald trump took with him when he left office and why officials are so concerned about what might still be at mar-a-lago. the times report spoke with multiple people briefed on the matter who says in total the government recovered more than 300 documents with classified markings. the first batch returned in january, a second provided by trump's aides to the justice department in june and a third seized by the fbi in the search of mar-a-lago. the paper reports according to multiple people briefed on his efforts, donald trump himself went through the first batch. 15 boxes before turning them over. within those 15 boxes, 150 sensitive documents were found sparking concern at the dodge

and ultimately leading to the mar-a-lago search warrant. nbc news has reached out to the doj, fbi, white house and former president trump spokesperson. we have not received responses yet. here is how jared kushner, the former president's son-in-law and white house advisor reacted. >> i'm not familiar with what exactly the contents were. i think you have to be very careful with what you read and wait for the facts to develop. >> late yesterday in a move seemingly as political as legal, donald trump's attorneys filed a motion to block the doj from, quote, further review of seized materials until a special master is appointed. joining me now is nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. nbc's mark caputo, kim wehle, former associate independent counsel in the white water investigation. glenn kirschner, former federal prosecutor and now an msnbc

legal analyst. ken, i believe you have new reporting confirming what was reported by "the new york times." walk us through it. >> that's right, katy. in the last few minutes we've gotten confirmation from a letter of the ak conservativist that was written back in may that sheds a lot of new light on the extent to which classified documents were found even back in january and the furious efforts by the fbi and justice department to try to get other documents back. this letter says that in the january batch, the 15 boxes turned over to the justice department from mar-a-lago to the archives in january, the archivist who went through it found more than 100 documents and 700 pages of documents with classification markings, including some of the highest levels of classification in the government. so top secret, sensitive information and special access programs. those are fancy words that mean only a small number of people in the u.s. government can see this stuff because it's so sensitive, it could betray sources and

methods. the letter also says that president biden has waived any claim of executive privilege that might have existed on those documents. it makes clear that the archives for a long time had been trying to get this stuff back from trump. it says that the archives, once they discovered these classified documents, they turned this information over to the justice department which then started becoming concerned about how this information got there, was it legally handled? it shows going as far back as january the justice department knew that there were extremely, extremely sensitive documents in that hall in mar-a-lago and were concerned there were more of them. it wasn't until august that they went to a judge to get a search warrant. >> do we have any idea about why there was that big lapse between what they got in january and the realization that, oh, my gosh, there's a lot of pretty sensitive stuff in here, we have to get this back quickly. we got more of it back from donald trump after they asked for it in june and they needed

to go in again a third time in august. i'm curious about the timeline. if they were really seriously concerned about these documents, why not go in sooner, get the search warrant sooner? >> that's a great question. i've been asking a lot of sources inside the intelligence community, the justice department, congressional sources. everybody has a theory. the one that's coalescing is that, look, this was a sensitive matter involving a former president. they were giving him every benefit of the doubt. they were pending over backwards to try to do this in a way that everyone could agree on without taking these drastic steps because trump was arguing, no, these are my documents, i'm entitled to them. the archivists were saying, that's ridiculous, these are u.s. government records. there also was apparently a belief that because they were in mar-a-lago and apparently they didn't have any evidence that they were being transmitted to a foreign power, or disclosed in

an unauthorized manner, they had luxury of time. it wasn't a time sensitive thing. after all, mar-a-lago had secret service agents down there guarding the place. at the same time, it's not a skiff. a skiff is a place where highly classified documents. those were not considered secure. that was a breach of classified information. it was somewhat puzzling. i think hard questions need to be asked of the biden administration, why didn't they move faster, why did it take this long to take these steps? >> glenn, i'll ask you that same question. although there are secret service agents guarding mar-a-lago, it's a private club with multiple people who are just private people that come in and hobnob with the president. the president also -- the former president has a lot of people around him. not everybody has top secret security clearance, compartmented security clearance. the timeline, do you understand why some people might wonder about the motivation given the extended timeline? >> katy, i agree with ken.

this feels like the executive branch, the department of justice bending over backwards to give a former president every opportunity to come clean, so to speak. he proves over and over again he was unwilling to come clean. that's why they had to subpoena the documents. that was not successful. they finally had to result in a judicially authorized search warrant of the home of a former president. you can see why they might have wanted to take every step and then some before going to that end game which was pretty dramatic. when and if this case goes to trial, if there is a charge brought, you can bet the defense attorneys will jump on that delay and say, you know what, if national security was really at risk, you know the doj, the fbi would have moved out a lot quicker. that will be a point in the defense column. >> let's talk about the move that donald trump made, his

legal team made. late yesterday, filing a motion asking for a special master. walk us through that, mark. >> i'm sorry. i'm at home. my phone just rang. i apologize for not hearing the question. yesterday's filing was remarkable for this reason. donald trump views the court of public opinion as superior to the court of law. that filing from a legal standpoint -- i'm not a lawyer and glenn can speak better to this -- was kind of crazy. part of it read like a real estate brochure, the rolling green fields of mar-a-lago. in it he goes out of his way to talk about his polling. he acknowledges in this filing that he called garland or had a message relayed to garland, how do i calm things down, but it was kind of threatening.

it's a preview of the way in which, to glenn's point, this is going to be litigated. it's not just in court. it's the court of public opinion. we can just expect a lot more. legal experts are going to be puzzled by the stuff he files. political reporters are going to have to fumble around and see where the intersection, the court of public opinion and the court of law meet. >> it does read like a political document, and a familiar one. we've heard about the way donald trump talked about investigations, the way his lawyers have talked about investigations, the inflammatory language they've used. interestingly, there was one point where the document, the motion, they argue that the national archives asked for documents from his administration that were protected by executive privilege. what about invoking executive privilege here? what does that say in the way he believes these documents should have been i guess categorized?

>> well, i agree with mark. from a legal perspective, the motion is one of many now acts that the trump team have taken to make a mockery of the legal system. i started last week with 90 brand new law students. it's the first time i've had to explain that you really do have to follow the law and follow the facts and act with integrity. i've never had to do that in 16 years. i think his argument on executive privileges, throw the spaghetti on the wall, in this moment he's mott the president. he doesn't control executive privilege. joe biden does. he also argues under the presidential rescues act -- we saw in the warrant there are three federal criminal laws including espionage that are at play here. he talks about the fourth amendment and sppressing evidence. he hasn't been prosecuted for anything. the thing that strikes me,

again, back to first year law students, it's emotion. emotion wants some kind of relief. donald trump is not asking for the documents back because he doesn't own them. he's not asking for making public the affidavit, because that's actually bad for him. he's asking for a special master to whip up some sense that there's another side here, but i think our brains are having a hard time grasping the enormity of this. if this was one document, one document, it would be a news story. we're talking hundreds and we don't even know who got them and if there's even more still in mar-a-lago according to "the new york times" report. it's staggering the implications of this unlaufrl breach by a former president. >> is there any way he might be granted a special master? >> just to be clear, a special master, what he wants is for someone to have a second pair of eyes on the actual documents retrieved. that's different from an

affidavit. we saw special masters when michael cohen's, his office was searched and a special master looked over that stuff for attorney-client privilege. the judge might give him that. that's fine, that's nice, extra process. we can feel good about the fact that the government is functioning properly. i don't think it's going to change the leland scape for donald trump at all because it will be a special master that the judge chooses that presumably is added. we have to keep our eye on the ball here which is how unsafe are we now as americans, less safe than we are now than before donald trump left office and sole all these documents, frankly. >> we'll see what happens next. kim wehle, thank you. at least one person was killed after record rain caused flash floods across texas. plus major allegations of misconduct against twitter. how a former security executive

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and david jolly, former republican congressman from florida and msnbc political analyst. let's start down there in florida. what are you seeing, shaq? >> reporter: voters are mirroring a message you're hearing from the candidates as well which is that democratic voters see this race as who is the strongest candidate to take on ron desantis. we saw charley crist, the former governor, he was voting earlier today. that's something he mentioned to reporters afterwards, he believed he's the strongest candidate because he's done the job before. on the other hand, you have agricultural commissioner nikki fried. when you talk to voters, you hear them mirroring that same kind of language, that this is about desantis. listen to some of my conversations. >> i'm very dissatisfied with who is in tallahassee at the

moment. >> i voted for charlie crist. >> why? >> because i think he has a greater chance of beating our current governor. >> you went with crist because he's familiar to you? >> yes. and i thought he did okay when he was governor. i'm hoping he'll be better now. >> reporter: again, all democratic voters that you were listening to, it's important to know, katy, yes, desantis, they hope that's a motivating factor. they say abortion will be a big factor come the general election. issues like education especially here in florida where there's that cross section of the education issue and the cultural issue and the economy. they say those are all important issues to them. in terms of what's driving them, what's building that passion, they're saying among democrats, it's beating desantis. >> let's go up to new york. sahill, this race between maloney and nadler, these are two people who served in

congress side-by-side for decades. they both have huge positions in the house. they wield a lot of power. what's happening between them? what are voters saying and has it gotten kind of ugly between these two would-be friends? >> reporter: that's right. i'm on the noisy streets of the upper west side. a series of heated primaries, but none more consequential than this, simply for the reason you point out. there are two powerful house committee chairs, jerry nadler and carolyn maloney pitted against each other. their districts are being blended into one and only one can survive this primary, only one can move on to the general election. i'm at the neighborhood of jerry nadler who walked into the polling place behind me just a short while ago, cast his ballot. i spoke to him afterwards and he told me if he's re-elected, he absolutely intends to stay the top democratic on the judiciary

committee. i asked him as well what he wants to accomplish if he was re-elected again after already serving 30 years. let's have a listen to what he said. >> what i want to achieve is, i believe this country is a democratic system where the small d is threatened. we're in a pivotal position on the judiciary committee to defend against that threat through voting rights legislation and administration. >> reporter: of course, divisions are very important in this democratic stronghold to voters here. nadler says he hopes to continue to codify the protections of roe v. wade abortion rights and same-sex marriage. he said that would require democrats holding the house and adding two more senators at least which would be a steep uphill climb. it begins here. just south of here in lower manhattan, congressman mon dare jones is fighting to survive a second political term.

facing a crowded field of candidates. on the metro north, sean patrick maloney is facing a contested primary against the aoc-backed biaggi. i spoke to him yesterday and he urged the democratic party to unify after these primaries, after these tense contentious primaries are done and focus on the task of beating republicans in the fall election, katy. >> let's look into what we can glean from today's results when we get them. david, what are you going to be looking at, not just in florida and new york -- obviously florida and new york because those are the two places that are voting -- but many terms of issues that stand out and what that might mean for november? >> katy, i think the nation remains in a perilous moment where we're seeing the republican party drift toward trumpist authoritarianism. democrats are having to overcome that with their political

messaging. do you in the case of florida go with the old trusted hand in charlie crist though he last won a statewide competitive race in 2006 or go with something new which is what nikki fried is suggesting. i think what you're seeing democrats wrestle with and have some encouragement going into november is that they could actually defy history and be competitive this cycle. democrats are working through who their voices will be and who their candidates will be to make that case to the american people. >> what about val demings. she's expected to win her primary today for the democratic race -- for the race for senator for florida. she's going to be facing off against marco rubio. some of the polling has suggested she's now leading marco rubio. how do you see that race playing out, and do you think it's an outlier or is roe v. wade, the overturning of it, pushing a race like this into more competitive territory? >> well, i think that's the big

question, katy. the metrics in florida still favor republicans, not just by voter registration and performance. republicans continue to win by two to four points statewide. in both the demings race and the ron desanity re-election campaign, are democrats being buoyed by the new moment tell. it could be a post dobbs environment where some say i'm not as far right as republicans want to take it. is it the revelations of donald trump's involvement in january 6th. he's putting himself back on the ballot in november. in a traditional first midterm of an incumbent president, republicans would do well. i still think ron desantis and rubio go into this race as a slight lead. if this national trend continues, florida could get very competitive for both val demings and the eventual gubernatorial. >> david jolly, shaq brewster

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nbc's sam brock joins us from austin where the water is starting to recede and meteorologist michelle grossman joins us with a look at what's ahead. sam, talk to us about what you're seeing there. >> i would say this is an aberration. we're seeing four or five once in a thousand year flood events in the last month. this was very much gushing as of 12 hours ago, so much so that it flooded the nearby restaurants and businesses, spilled onto the streets. some folks got stuck in their cars. austin received almost 3 inches of rain in one location in an hour. that was a 70-year-old record. the bigger problem is dallas. we're looking at your screen where you saw folks waist-high in water. dallas received in the neighborhood of 15.3 inches in a 24-hour period. dallas police say a couple hundred water incidents, katy,

nearly 100 people had to be rescued. one confirmed fatality was a 60-year-old woman who was in her car on the phone with loved ones. they got disconnected. her car was swept away. ultimately mesquite officials found her once the water receded several hours later. a reminder how perilous this can be. in terms of why we're seeing this here, flash flood alley, i-35 corridor between san antonio and dallas, it has to do with the convergence of air masses between the gulf and the pacific that is prone for lots of rainfall in a short period of time. the soil is not good for absorbing water. here we find ourselves hope that the rest of the week doesn't look like the first couple days after all this historic rainfall. >> sam, thank you for the report. just because it's slightly distracting. where is that music coming from? >> we're negotiate a saloon.

a few minutes ago we were listening to "all my exes live in texas." >> michelle, let's talk about where this storm is headed and what folks need to watch out for. >> i love that music is going. you need anything to help you clean up after some storms. we're looking at the next couple days for flash flooding threat, not only today but tomorrow and also on thursday. let's take a look at what we expect for today. we do have a moderate risk. that's very rare, although we've had one the past four days. we don't see that that often. where you see the pink on the map is where we're most likely to see flash flooding today. flash flooding is the number one cause for weather-related deaths. portions of southern arkansas, louisiana, mississippi, even into alabama will see the threat for flash flooding. 9 million americans impacted by a flood alert right now. where you see the green is the

flash flood watch. stretching from texas, arkansas, louisiana, into mississippi, we have one flood warning right now. that's the good news. that will change as we go throughout the day. a flood warning is when flooding is occurring right now. that will pop in and pop out. we're seeing torrential downpours right now. where you see the darker colors, the reds, the yellows, the oranges, the brighter colors, that's where we're seeing really heavy down pours. you it gives it a lot of energy and it's like a sponge. katy, we're going to warm this storm system move to the east tomorrow affecting portions of the southeast. before that we can see up to 6 inches of rain in some spots. >> michelle grossman, thank you so much. also sam brock, thank you. twitter is on the defensive after a whistle-blower came forward alleging massive security issues on the platform. the allegations were made in a complaint filed with the securities and exchange commission, federal trade commission and the department of justice. they were first published by

"the washington post" and cnn. according to the post, the whistle-blower, identified as a former security chief depicts twitter as a chaotic and rutterless company beset by infighting, unable to properly protect its 238 million daily users, incluing government agency, heads of states and other figures. among the serious accusations is twitter falsely claimed it had a solid security plan. the law firm representing the whistle-blower tells cnbc they can confirm the authenticity of the documents published by the post and cnn. twitter disputes the allegations and points out the whistle-blower was fired by the company. cnbc senior washington correspondent ayman javers joins us now. the whistle-blower is a former head of security. what else can you tell us? >> his name is peter saadco. he's a hacker known by the nick

anymore mudge. he's been on the scene for decades. this news was broken jointly by "the washington post" an cnn. the contents of the whistle-blower complaint he filed with federal agencies were confirmed to cnbc by his legal team. you see they call it a chaotic and rudderless company, unable to protect millions of users including heads of state. that's what some of the big concern is. in the complaint, the poster board describes twitter as this rudderless company which is not paying close enough attention to the security concerns that he raised while he was the head of security there. he says twitter misled the government about security and spam, violated an ftc settlement, is running out-of-date servers and withheld key facts about the number of data breaches at the company. the key problem here is there are too many employees, maybe thousands with access to data that was not tracked inside the

company. using that access for their own benefit. the post also reports that the claim says the company prioritized user growth over reducing spam. executives stood to make bonuses for themselves of as much as $10 million. those bonuses tied to increases in daily users, not tied to bringing down spam. mudnge was hired by dorsey in late 2020, fired in january this year. a spokesperson tells us the committee has received a copy of the complaint and is setting up a meeting now. the spokesperson says they take this matter seriously. in a statement this morning a twitter spokesman says mr. zatko was fired in january of 2022 for ineffective leadership and poor performance. what we've seen so far is a false narrative about twitter that's riddled with inconsistencies and

inaccuracies. the allegations appear to --. in a separate interview his legal team said he hasn't had any contact with elon musk who is in this heated battle with twitter over a takeover effort. that's going to be important to follow through on. this new testimony here could have significant implications for elon musk and his efforts to get out of his deal where he wanted to buy twitter and is now trying to back out of that. >> eamon javers, thank you very much. still to come, new hints that a federal judge could block idaho's near total ban on abortion. i'll talk to a planned parenthood official about that fight. a program making school lunches free for everyone, what will the millions of families that relied on them do now? >> when you heard that program was ending, what was your reaction? >> i was stressed. and only 24-hr steroid free spray.

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reaction? >> i was stressed, very stressed. >> reporter: more than 26 million free meals were served every day because of the program. now families must apply for meal coverage and only those meeting certain income requirements will receive the free lunches. nationwide around 1 in 6 students don't know where their meal is coming from. in the greeley evans school district, food insecurity is even more severe. 65% of students qualify for free or reduced-priced lunches. in this denver suburb, they're doing something different. the school board has decided to allocate $2 million so every one of the 23,000 students in the district can still eat for free. daniel bach is the head nutrition. >> a lot of our families are over the threshold of what qualifies them for the free and reduced program. we know that's families don't necessarily have the money to pay for those meals. >> reporter: while some believe universal free lunch should be made permanent, critics say it

was only intended to be a pandemic-era program. >> by returning these programs back to normal, we can uphold our responsibility to taxpayers that aid should be targeted and temporary. >> reporter: bach argues this year is far from normal as supply chain slowdowns and inflation further complicate lunchtime nationwide. >> our goal is to teach kids how to learn and think, but they can't do that when they're hungry. >> reporter: back to school bringing back challenges in feeding america's children. nbc news, greeley, colorado. a near total ban on abortion is set to take effect in idea oh in two days. a federal judge suggested he's likely to grant the request to block it. the doj asked for a preliminary injunction claiming the ban conflicts with a federal statute. the judge says he will announce his decision no later than tomorrow. joining me is remember beck ga

gur wren from planned parenthood. thank you, rebecca, for being with us. the justice department is arguing in this case that this is about emergency care, that this law would affect emergency care. explain that to us. >> so, first of all, thank you for having me, katy. what the department of justice is trying to do is to ensure that health care professionals in a hospital can treat patients who are presenting for medical emergencies as required by federal law. >> these hospitals that take medicaid and medicare essentially need this emergency care, this idea they're not going to be able to get it, the state is arguing that there's no way that anyone is going to prosecute a doctor who says this woman needs an abortion to save her life. what did the judge say about

that and why does planned parenthood worry that that won't be the case, that it will chill a doctor's decision making? >> in fact, katy, in court yesterday when presented with various scenarios that physicians might see in a hospital setting and the state's attorney was asked how a physician should react or how they should treat a patient, the state's attorney could not answer those questions. that right there is the core problem. all right. so these laws that potentially will take effect all over the country, do you think there are other ways for them to push back on this care, on denying this care across the country? >> well, listen, when the dobbs decision came down, the supreme court created a national public health crisis.

we know that 36 million people in this country will now be finding themselves living in communities and states where there are abortion bans. so unfortunately, extreme lawmakers across this country are furthering that problem and this crisis by passing abortion bans at breakneck speed. >> just to go back to, this because i think it's an important point, there's the issue of abortion, deciding that you can't handle the child, don't want the child, whatever the reason behind the abortion. there's also the issue of just care for women, getting the care they need to keep themselves safe and keep their families safe. so when we're talking about abortion bans, how does planned parenthood, considering planned parenthood offers a variety of services, not just abortion, they offer so much more to women

around the country. >> that's correct. the reality is for 70% of our patients, we are their only health care provider. so unlike extreme lawmakers across this country and here in idaho, we are not turning our backs on our patients. we provide a full range of reproductive health care services including birth control, well visits, sexually transmitted infection testing and treatment, gender-affirming hormone care. so we will be here ready, able and willing to help our patients get all of the health care that they need and desire. >> rebecca gibron, thank you for being with us. we appreciate your time. parents have spent the last two years working to keep their kids safe from covid in schools. now some of them are worried about monkeypox. we've got a pediatrician here to walk you through and tell you what you need to know and why not to worry too much.

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this fall, most americans are expected to be eligible for a new covid booster. pfizer has officially asked the fda to sign off on a new shot that targets the ba.5 a.m. subvariant. the fda is expected to approve the boost are foreeveryone over 12 in september. earlier on "today" rochelle walensky says if you haven't gotten your booster already, you shouldn't wait for the new shot. >> if you're over the age of 50 and haven't gotten that second booster, you can get it now and of course i would say if you haven't gotten a booster dose in 2022, you want to go ahead and get one right now. >> as children begin to head back to school for the new year, some experts are saying the outbreak of monkeypox may not be as much of a concern for parents as covid has been. cdc director walensky said plenty of testing available.

having a rash is required to be tested. new york state reported its first case in a person under 18, that is at least the third case in a child in this country. joining me is dr. irwin redletter, from the national center for disaster prepareness and a pediatrician. dr. redletter, monkeypox not as contagious as covid. it's not spread through the air. it's not a respiratory disease. only three cases we know of with kids but understandably because it's in the news so much there is an outbreak, there are some parents who are concerned. what do you say to them? >> i have two answers. one is as a public health person and of course it's been declared a public health emergency, there are over 15,000 cases reported nationally which is a tiny number, tiny compared to what we've been deal with, with covid, and probably eight now that are called pediatric, but

what's pediatric? so the cdc defines pediatric as 21 and under as the american academy of pediatrics does but for all intents and purposes, what we're talking about is what elementary schoolchildren and day care children and high school kids need to be worried about and their parents need to be worried about. it's not much relatively speaking. so my answer as a grandfather of several school-aged children is -- >> you just told me you have 150 of them. >> it's 162 now, as of last weekend. it keeps raising, but you know, this is not something -- you know, we're so tuned up to the expectation that every new infectious disease is going to somehow get me and get my children, and i think people need to not really be concerned about monkeypox. i hope i don't get like floods of twitters in response, but i think that's the reality. this is what i tell my kids and

my grandchildren. this is something, if you get a certain kind of rash, if you have flu symptoms, and you want to be a little more attentive to the development of rash and particularly parents need to know if their child has had contact with somebody with monkeypox, that's a whole different story. but really, we need to acknowledge the fact that there are high-risk groups, really high-risk groups, people of all ages and genders and sexual preferences are getting it, but the majority are, happen to be in men and especially men who have had sexual relations with lots of other men. >> let me ask you about covid. that is still on the minds of folks as well. >> yes. >> schools starting. there's not a large percentage of children especially not under the age of 5 who have gotten the covid vaccine. are you making a strong argument for kids to get it or are parents who are choosing not to -- what do you think? >> this is so complicated. first of all, we're not doing

that well with kids 5 to 13. a lot of the children are not getting it. maybe a third of kids have. under 5 is less than 5% at this point who have gotten vaccinated and you can understand why parents are feeling not sure and part of it has been the whole messaging situation from the cdc from what you're hearing on social media has really offered a complete bed of confusion and uncertainty. so a lot of parents are holding back. i believe that children, all children, all ages that are eligible should get the shot, and part of it is not just helping them stay free of covid, but the other part is, if you're living in a household where your grandma lives and whatever, and other susceptible people, you should be more interested in the vaccine. >> dr. irwin redletter, thank you very much for being here and thank you for telling us not to worry too much about monkeypox for our school-aged kids. appreciate it. and that's going to do it for me this hour. i will be back at 2:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. please come back. in the meantime, "andrea

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♪♪ good day, everyone. this is "andrea mitchell reports" in washington. as the battle over the fbi mar-a-lago search is heating one a bombshell report in the "new york times" that more than 300 documents with classified markings were recovered from former president trump's home since he left office, according to multiple sources briefed on the matter. nbc news has not independently confirmed that. federal officials were initially alarmed when the national archives recovered more than 150 classified documents from mr. trump in january. "the times" also reporting the former president went through the boxes himself in late 2021 and the justice department is seeking additional surveillance footage from mar-a-lago. all this as trump has filed a lawsuit asking a judge to name a third party known