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coming on the air with nbc news's new reporting on the documents retrieved from mar-a-lago with the national archives confirming some were marked as containing the government's closely held secrets. plus an nbc news scoop on another investigation involving donald trump. the former administration official meeting with the january 6th committee today. we've got live reports on all of it coming up. plus, our team out on the campaign trail with the five hours of voting in key races that could shape the midterms. what the candidates and voters are telling us including in one place where tonight's results will echo beyond the district. breaking news out of atlanta where we're learning a special prosecutor will not pursue charges against the officers
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involved in the death of rayshard brooks in atlanta in 2020. a live report coming up. we have a lot going on here this afternoon. i'm hallie jackson in washington. i want to start with our nbc news news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian and former prosecutor and legal analyst tally winestein. the new letter that nbc news has gotten their hands on, the national archives had it, posted it, to mr. trump's attorneys where they found more than 100 documents marked as classified. talk about this letter and what changed between january when some of these docs were recovered to this summer and this past month? >> just how long the justice department has known that very sensitive, highly classified documents have been stored at mar-a-lago. this letter was written in may, is that the national archives found documents marked sensitive compartmented information and sap, special access programs,
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among the 15 boxes of documents that trump folks turned over in january where the archives was trying to get the documents back. what that suggests is there was great concern from early on in this year about the storage of highly classified documents and this letter goes on to quote from the justice department's national security division to the trump lawyers saying we need access to these documents to conduct a damage assessment, not only the fbi but other elements of the intelligence community need to see these documents. grave concern, and it just shows that the department actually waited months before they took the dramatic step of asking for a search warrant and sending fbi agents down to retrieve what they think is the remainder of the documents stored at mar-a-lago. hallie? >> ken, thank you. tally, to you, on the investigations and the way they're paced, does it surprise you the tone and the sort of speed at which the national
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archives went from early this year to an fbi search months later? >> well, you know, what stands out to me, we look at the full scope of this thing, hallie, how many courtesies president trump got along the way and how clearly he was put on notice that this was extremely serious, that these documents were not only classified, but that there was a real sense of danger and a concern about damage. it has taken some time, but i think that it makes it that much more difficult for him now to say, any of the kinds of arguments that he and his surrogates have floated along the way, for example, the idea that all of these things were declassified through some standing order because he had said so, that's a really weak argument anyway for a number of reasons, but it's pretty clear that back in may, he wasn't talking to them about that.
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they weren't talking to him about that. instead, the concern as i said was really about damage and how to get these documents out of harm's way. >> tally, we could get a look at this affidavit any day, we assume after this week, and who knows if we'll see it, but the doj has to hand in the redactions, the judge will make a decision and has made clear as it relates to the justification from the fbi for conducting the search at mar-a-lago, if it is meaningless he may not release any of it. >> that's right. and we can't say enough times that absolutely nothing irregular has happened here. an affidavit like this one should not have been publicly revealed to this point for the obvious reason that sometimes a search is conducted and no criminal charges follow for whatever reason, in which case there would be nothing to talk about. the first time that someone in
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mr. trump's position would really need to see that affidavit would be after charges were brought so he could try to suppress anything that was found in the course of that search later on where he might want to challenge the government in other ways. all of this is really unprecedented. the judge has said he understands the public and really historic interest in this, and we might get to see some parts of it. that remains to be seen on thursday. we might not. if we don't, that's just because the ordinary course is the course that's being followed here. >> ken and tally, thank you very much. news coming in from capitol hill, as it relates to a different investigation involve manage trump. our team is learning that robert o'briant, remember him, the former national security adviser under former president trump he was meeting with the january 6th committee which is still conducting its work. capitol hill correspondent ali
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vitali is here part of the team breaking this scoop for nbc news. what do we know? >> hallie, this is an interview we knew the committee was pursuing, but now they're actually doing it with the former national security adviser to the trump administration robert o'brien. he was expected to be meeting with the committee this morning according to two sources now talking to us. it presents the larger picture, that a, the committee is still working despite the fact that we are not in the period of public hearings, not right now. they're on a temporary pause that we expect to pick up in september. but also, it shows how they're using this time, having laid out for viewers and people following the hearings the timeline that led up to january 6th, but now, potentially detailing what was happening after the 6th, specifically in the highest echelons of the trump administration as they tked to not just o'brien, but people like former transportation secretary elaine cho and others in that orbit. mike pompeo, the secretary of state. all people who could detail from
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different angles, cho left the administration after the 6th while mike pompeo remains a stedfast ally, detailing the ways the cabinet may have been talking about removing the president from office from the 25th amendment and what reaction was inside the administration to january 6th. all these conversations are seemingly the focus of the committee's work as they pull that timeline past the actual day of the insurrection and drag night the weeks prior between the insurrection and the inauguration as the committee has tried to say time and again that this is an ongoing threat that did not stop on january 6th. >> what doles we know? it's hard to believe we're a week and change out from september, but we know that committee said publicly they would pick back up the public hearings. are we hearing anything in terms of content or timing? >> our sources are continued to say there will be more hearings in september. the latest number we had was two, but that's not to say they
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can't add or subtract in real time. this is a committee nimble with their information, with their fact gathering and the fact that they're continuing to go forward on this is notable. when i was talking to chairman thompson before the house went home for recess, about a week and change from now, he was saying they haven't set deadlines or dates for when they wanted to do these hearings. at the same time you have to think about something congresswoman liz cheney, now she's in an interesting position, it's not like she was tethered in some way to her party but she's leaving congress so she is someone who is going to be watching closely during the hearings when they return but at the same time, she said they're having conversations with mike pence, the former vice president, who said in new hampshire, you might add, that he was open if there was a formal invitation to the january 6th committee. that tracks, frankly, with the ways that people in his orbit have cooperated with the january 6th committee, after formal invitations and subpoenas, but they did cooperate to the point some have testified publicly in
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the hearings we've seen so far. having that level of cooperation, not just from people in the cabinet but potentially from the former vice president, that would bring us into a new phase of this and something we know the committee has been debating over the course of the last few months, so it's going to be interesting to see what they decide come september. >> our capitol hill correspondent, author of the book "electable" out today. thanks. if it's tuesday voters are voting and it's happening in new york and florida. primary day there. and when you look at new york especially it's a state where the politics there have been transformed, up ended by redistricting. look what's happening in one district in manhattan. two long-time democratic lawmakers powerful dems in congress for more than 20 years, fighting each other after their districts were basically merged. here's one, congressman jerry nadler on that today. >> it's unfortunate. what else can you say. there's nothing you can do about
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it. >> experts are looking to a different election in upstate new york, a more purple district. very swinging district for potentially clues as to how democrats and republicans are shaping their strategies now and what it may mean not just today but come november, too. let me bring in correspondent dasha burns, covering the race from kingston, new york. this is an interesting one because to some political observers it feels like a potential wellwetter when you look at how the democrat and republican in this race are running and strategies. talk us through it. >> this is a swinging district. obama, trump, biden, right. significantly, though, it's the issues that are at play here that could answer some significant questions ahead of the midterms in november. this is the first competitive congressional race since the fall of roe. again, to be clear, we've talked about primaries today, this is not a primary. this is a special election, a
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race between democrat pat ryan and republican mark mol linear ro. the democrat putting abortion access at the center of his campaign, his campaign signs read choice is on the ballot. he has been front and center on this. on the other hand his republican opponent has been hitting hard on inflation, economic issues, really calling this a referendum on the president and democratic leaders in washington, so the question this could answer is, which party has the edge going into november? which issue is really going to galvanize voters and get folks to the polls? it's a big question of turnout today. i spoke to both of these candidates and take a listen to their messaging. >> i think the foundations of our democracy are at threat. we have fundamental rights and freedoms, including the right for a woman to have access to safe abortion, to have reproductive rights being ripped away, and so much of this race
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has been about standing up and saying, that is not who we are as americans. >> what is this race about? >> it's about the voters and the voters are concerned. residents, families, farmers are concerned about the price of gas, price of eggs, groceries. they know in this part of the state you have to drive 25 miles to work and added new costs. >> reporter: molinaro has been playing down the abortion issue saying this is new york where the rights are protected, not under threat. as i have been talking to voters here anecdotally the abortion issue is the first thing that almost all of them mentioned to me as they were casting their ballot, thinking about the supreme court decision and while new york is safe right now, they are worried about what might come in the future. interestingly also both of these candidates have been downplaying their chances. usually candidates are talking up how they're going to win.
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both are positioning themselves as the underdog and being realistic this is likely going to be quite a tight race. we could take some interesting hints about november out of what happens tonight here, hallie. >> not just where you are in kingston, but manhattan some interesting races to watch. thank you. we'll talk about the ones to watch in florida coming up later on in the show. coming up, monkeypox cases going up, vaccination lines getting longer. what is the government going to do about it? i'll ask a top white house official leading this response. if you've got student loans you want to hear the new nbc news reporting on a big decision from president biden that may be a day away. first, breaking decision out of atlanta. no charges fort officers involved in the 2020 death of ra rayshad brooks. a live report coming up. rayshad brooks a live report coming up.
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we've got some breaking news coming in the last few minutes out of the atlanta with the special prosecutor there announcing there will be no
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charges against the police officers involved in the death of rayshard brooks in 2020. he was shot and killed outside a wendy's in june. investigators say he resisted. you might remember his death came less than three weeks after the murder of george floyd in minneapolis. sparking demonstrations in atlanta and beyond at a moment of national reckoning over the police use of force, race, justice. the prosecutor laying out today this afternoon his decision to in essence exonerate those officers. >> both acted as reasonable officers would under the facts and circumstances of the events of that night. both acted in accordance with well-established law and were justified in the use of force regarding the situation. >> nbc's quad very nay gas for us. we have the atlanta mayor out saying, quote, i respect the independent role that special prosecutor played here. we must maintain our commitment to the work of creating safe
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communities through the collaboration of police and the people they serve. what else can you tell us here? >> that is correct. that statement from the mayor after this announcement was made. well, this was two years with people waiting for these charges or no charges to be announced, remember initially there was a prosecutor that had announced some charges, but then there were issues with that. they decided not to move forward. they name a special prosecutor and more than two years later, they announce they will not move forward with charges. now, the atlanta police department has also announced that both officers are currently on administrative duty so moving forward, we'll have to see what the officers decide to do. will they move forward with a civil case or what will happen for them? you can imagine what it has been like for two officers to wait for these -- for this announcement to be made by the special prosecutor. as you mentioned the mayor saying he respects the independent decision. he also added as part of a
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statement some lines mentioning that the department has looked into this incident to make sure they are prepared for this and i should also add, that the special prosecutor who spoke today, peter scandalakis said bronson and rolfe commit nod crimes and acted as reasonable officers would under the facts and circumstances. >> live for us on that story, thank you very much. here are new developments on the monkeypox emergency with today the u.s. hitting more than 15,000 confirmed cases. this is more than any other country by far. it comes one day after the white house released nearly 2 million monkeypox doses. i want to bring in now the white house national monkeypox response deputy coordinator. thank you for being with us on the show. important story and a big week for us. >> i'm sorry. couldn't hear you, one more time. >> i was saying hello and checking if you could hear me.
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good to know you can. >> i can hear you now, thank you. >> let me start big picture and then drill down. i don't have to tell you there's been the same criticism of the administration's response to the monkeypox that feels to some people a little deja vu to covid, slow, didn't get out quickly with vaccinations. we know the white house released 2 million vaccines yesterday, we have more than 15,000 cases. do you believe r you confident that we are on track to get this outbreak under control? >> we are on track. i think that this monkeypox outbreak is really unprecedented, and it's really been categorized by a lot of pivots because of the way this has unfolded. we know what we've got now, what the virus is doing, the vaccines available and populations we need to reach. it's not an easy course but we have a course set to control this outbreak. >> would interdermal shots help? new york has changed its
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approach, given shots between the layers rather than below. the fda approves, the white house is training people, health care workers on how to administer vaccines this way. when do you expect to see this vaccination across the country? >> we're seeing it right now. lots of large jurisdictions. we've heard from l.a., atlanta. we know a lot of jurisdictions have shifted to this. i think there's a learning curve for everything and we're learning together but seeing jurisdictions identifying the strategy as a way to get more vaccine in arms. they're willing to take this on from the perspective of the training. we're excited working with them and cdc's technical assistance and support to make sure they have what they need. it's a learning process, but we can't afford to slow down. we need to get sflax arms. really seeing the change toward the interdermal shot is critical for us to have adequate supplies of vaccine to control the outbreak and behavioral changes which are important too. >> one of the communities people
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are looking at now and we know this with new york seeing its first juvenile case, more than a dozen cases, 17 in kids under 16, in children in the u.s., you have back to school season starting or ability to start. what is the administration's level of concern about monkeypox as it relates to kids? >> it's about awareness and making sure that schools and institutions of higher learning have what they need to be able to sort of deal with monkeypox, if it happens in their environment. i think our concern there is and we're addressing that concern by clear guidance that is appropriately targeted to the folks who are in the schools and running the schools. it's important to remember that majority of cases that we're seeing are in gay, bye sexual and men who have sex with men and transgender and gender diverse folks who have sex with men as well. i think the messaging is similar, but it's a different level of sort of acuity and concern. we definitely need to make sure that folks at schools are aware
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that parents are aware, but we don't need to be anxiety but more just awareness as well as a clear path to what to do next if a case is identified. >> cdc director dr. rochelle walensky was on the "today" show talking about new changes at the cdc. i have a question how this relates to monkeypox. >> my goal as we hit this reset was to have a new, public health action oriented culture that really emphasizes, as you said, accountability, that emphasizes collaboration with our public health partners across the country, communication to the american public and timelessness with our information to the american public. >> how do you see these changeses from the cdc into the monkeypox? >> i think we're living in it in real time. the coordination with the white house, i think our role is to accelerate action and response. i think that -- i hope that we're going to be a model of how
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this goes forward. >> doctor, thank you so much for being on with us this afternoon. coming up next, guilty investigations, we're learning more about in a case of two men who plotted to kidnap the governor of michigan. a live report from the courthouse. plus, the bombshell whistleblower allegations about twitter's cyber security. what it means for you and your personal information, coming up. r personal information, coming up. easy-to-use tools, and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. power e*trade's easy-to-use tools make complex trading less complicated. custom scans help you find new trading opportunities. while an earnings tool helps you plan your trades and stay on top of the market. i still practice for what's next. even with higher stroke risk due to... afib not caused by a heart valve problem. so if there's a better treatment than warfarin... i like that tune. eliquis. eliquis reduces stroke risk better than warfarin.
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new reporting says the irs is set to launch a safety review after more and more threats from the far right including in some instances warning repeated by republican members of congress according to the "washington post." the commissioner of the irs in a new interview telling the "post," we see what's out there in terms of social media. our workforce is concerned about their safety. threats against the irs have gone up since they were allocated $80 billion in the inflation reduction act, but some republicans seizing on that funding falsely claiming the hires will be armed. senator ted cruz this week calling to, quote, abolish the irs. i want to bring in "the washington post" business reporter who broke the story. i'm glad to have you with us with the new reporting. there is a difference between
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conservatives saying abolish the irs, get rid of the irs, versus the kind of threats that the irs commissioner is talking about with you and your team that are sparking this review of safety for employees? >> there is a big difference and i'm glad you pointed that out. a big difference between policy discussions ability the size of the federal government, about whether taxes should be higher or lower, all sorts of issues. there is no policy argument to be made about violence, threats harassment, towards civil servants. that is what the irs is concerned about. the irs, like you mentioned, is going to get $80 billion over the next ten years to modernize and increase its enforcement of companies and high wage earnings, making $400,000 a year. republicans trying to defeat or tarnish this bill in the public's eye have seized on that
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$80 billion. some of the republican and conservative talking points have mirrored or played off long-standing extremist talking points about the irs and distrust in the government and that has folks at the agency very concerned about the safety and well-being of their employees. >> based on your reporting and sources that you talk to among the rank and file it feels like reading your piece out now, this is more than a top down thing of hey, we're going to review safety. it feels like there is a mood shift among irs employees about their concerns? >> you hit the nail on the head there. there is a mood shift. you know, i've talked to irs employees for years and, you know, very consistent refrain is, i don't tell people i work for the irs. i tell them i work for the federal government. that's because the irs is unpopular. it's very different now when, you know, i talk to a union leader earlier today in chicago who said, when my members go out
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to lunch i tell them take their i.d. badges off because i don't want folks seeing while out and about it says irs and they work there. that could make them a target. the irs sometimes rents office space in private buildings. there is concern are those -- do those buildings have the same security apparatus in place as federal buildings. there's all kinds of issues like that. the irs workforce is overwhelmingly older than the rest of the federal government. it's going to see a lot of retirements in the next ten years. but they were hoping to hold on to the experts and the most senior officials among the rank and file while this money gets phased in to improve the agency. one of the things we're seeing now is folks saying, i'm not putting up with this. i don't feel like being threatened. i don't feel like being harassed. i don't want my family to worry about me. i don't want to be a target. i'm done. that is a significant mood shift among the rank and file.
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>> jacob, from "the washington post" great reporting out now online and in the papers i assume tomorrow. thank you. developing right now no michigan as we talk about violent threats, two men found guilt of plotting to kidnap governor gretchen whitmer. a jury has convicted adam fox and barry croft for conspiring to kidnap her. our affiliate is outside the courthouse in grand rapids and talk about what has gone down here and the consequences and the punishment looks like and the reaction from governor whitmer herself. >> hallie, the governor happy with today's outcome. another jury in the same building couldn't find the two defendants adam fox and barry kroft of anything. it was a hung jury. they ended up in a mistrial. they were back four months later and today the jury coming to
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a different decision. the governor talked about political discord and how it's gone into violent plotting for violent acts. the governor very concerned. as for the two men convicted today, one from wyoming, which is just a suburb south of grand rapids, adam fox and barry croft from delaware, they face up to ten years in prison at sentencing. the judge not yet scheduling that sentencing. >> joel, thank you very much being there for us live outside the courthouse. we appreciate you and our affiliate in the area. thanks. coming up, we'll head to another neck of the woods in pennsylvania. as john fetterman gets back on the campaign trail and tries to ad to the democrats' majority. first primary day, we're live in the sunshine state as democrats fight to take on governor ron desantis. on governor ron desantis. or... his nose.
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debt, possibly as early as tomorrow. sources are telling nbc news. now the white house says hey, no final decision has been made yet, but our sources tell our team the president is expected to cancel $10,000 per borrower as long as they make less than $125,000 a year. the president is also expected to extend an existing pause on loan payments for another few months. this affects a ton of people, right. according to the government some 45 million americans owe close to $2 trillion in loans. nbc is with the president and there are concerns about this, too. on the one hand, folks who owe student loan debt would love to not have to pay -- pay back 10 grand if they make under 125,000 or get a reprieve in paying that back after the pause that was put in place during the pandemic. but there's also an economic concern that some are raising, too, the cnbc poll shows 60% of americans worried if student loan debt is forgiven it could
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make inflation worse. talk about the line that the biden administration might be looking to walk here. >> well, hallie, reducing student debt in the first place was a campaign promise for the president in 2020 so there's been that pressure on him to make a decision, especially as we're really coming up close on that current moratorium, the pause on paying student debt until next week, august 31st is the deadline the president is up against. the secretary of education was on our streaming channel nbc news now this morning and talked about what an intense focus the white house is putting on this right now. >> we are fighting hard for our students. we want to make sure higher education is accessible and we know education is a great equalizer. the president has run on this and he's leading this way and we're going to continue to push forward to make sure that higher education is accessible to more americans across our country. >> the secretary donald our colleagues's questions about when we're going to hear that specific announcement.
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he's dodged questions from other networks as well. today is president's final day of vacation here at rehoboth beach and expected to head back to the white house tomorrow. it is speculated this could come as soon as tomorrow based on our team's reporting. in terms of the economic factor looking head to the midterms, inflation, cost of living are top of issues for voters across the country and american voters are split on whether student debt relief should be a factor at all, whether or not anybody should be getting relief or if it should be those in need or anybody at all. if you look at the breakdown when it comes to party in terms of the political discourse, 84 -- 81% of republicans say that student -- they worry student loan forgiveness will make inflation worse. 41% of democrats have the same concern because the idea in their minds is that if student debt is something that they don't have to pay, that they might be spending their money elsewhere, which would drive
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inflation up. however, cnbc polling and reporting has shown students or borrowers that have got an pause on this payment have not increased their spending, instead putting it in savings or using it for other expenses. it's very much something that the president has to thread the needle very finally here ahead of the midterms because it could on one hand excite one aspect of his party, but it could also deter others from voting for democrats overall. hallie? >> mara barrett live in rehoboth beach, delaware, with a cameo of the trolley in the backdrop. the explosive whistleblower complaint making waves from washington to silicon valley. top lawmakers on capitol hill already calling for investigations into the allegations being maded by twitter's former head of cyber security laying out what he describes as reckless and negligent cyber security at the company. this complaint which nbc news has obtained alleges twitter misled government agencies like the sec, the ftc, and that
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twitter misled the public even ability the company's security protocols. this veteran cyber security expert peiter zatko known as mudge in the cyber security community said he was shown not to show twitter's board a big security report and instead claimed to write misleading security documents. this is putting twitter on defense. a spokesperson calling the whistleblower's account, quote, a false narrative that is riddled with inconsistencies and inaccuracies and lacks important context. i want to bring in a silicon valley correspondent for the "washington post," among the team that broke the story, writing that complaint and the words of your piece depicts twitter as a chaotic and rudderless company beset by infighting unable to protect its 238 daily million users including government agencies, heads of state and public figures. walk us through these allegations. that line describes what is at stake and the overall broader significance when it comes to
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the scope and scale of twitter and the public discourse. >> i'm smiling. we went back and forth so much on that line. it's a writing process. but multiple cooks. but what mudge is alleging even for someone like me that has covered social media like my job is on the floor and i heard from people who worked at twitter who didn't know about this who said their jaws were on the floor as well. this was an incredibly explosive complaint with its 84 pages, so lots of parts, but some of the main allegations are that the company was a security disaster. that has been known for a while but not the extent. twitter had a massive hack in 2009 that led night a consent decree with the federal trade commission. in 2020 there was a massive hack that actually -- these floridaed teenagers infiltrated the accounts of twitter employees and took over the accounts of
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low temperature, barack obama, donald trump, during a cryptocurrency scam. that was 2020. that's the reason that mudge was brought in was on the tails of how do we get our act together after having this hack. what mudge says in the complaint that he found is that the company hadn't progressed much. he claims since the 2009 consent decree. and says particularly around issues like access controls which means which employees have access to key software that can keep the lights on he talked about how twitter was literally on the brink of collapse at one point in 2021. like they just didn't have -- they didn't organize their server farms properly there was one point they thought the lights were going to go out completely and the whole thing hanging by a thread. that was an issue then. you think about the implications for this. he talks about how twitter, you know, not only is susceptible to hacks but also citing a third
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party report he commissioned at the time of the company is susceptible, deeply, to foreign interference. so one of the issues that comes up in this question of twitter hacks and manipulation is if you can have these outside parties taking over accounts they can use it to manipulate public discourse and change the stomach -- stock price of companies and the outcome of elections. >> the timing is interesting as well as twitter is in the court fight with elon musk trying to make musk go through the deal. musk today after the reporting was published here tweeted this, rather cryptic meme of jimmy crick et who taught pin know yo how to whistle. what you're reporting on that front the timing piece with musk? >> so a lot of people work at twitter not surprisingly are skeptical of the timing. why is this guy -- this is a month -- a month and a half away from the trial that twitter is
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going to go into with musk where he's trying to get out of buying the company, and people in twitter saying is that why he's raising complaints now because he wants to be subpoenaed in this trial? he alleges in the complaint that it's a whole section of the complaint are where he says, quote, twitter lied to elon musk. almost a cry for elon musk's attention which he got. what i will say, though, is that the reporting and the claims in that part of the complaint to me are the weakest because most of it is almost -- it's primarily his rec shuns and observations. not hard documents. he makes a claim in the report, for example, that he repeatedly asked to know the prevalence and bots across twitter and couldn't get a straight answer. we don't have it, we can't measure it. i cited this in the story and elon tweeted my little detail today, which is that actually there is an internal number
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called spam prevalence they do calculate and mudge was at a board meeting where he actually reviewed that number and he's claiming his complaint that he didn't know the number. so i think the truth is somewhere in between. maybe he saw the number, and he didn't like it, and he wasn't satisfied and, of course, that made people who work with him at twitter dislike him even more. or maybe he didn't want to seat number because he didn't agree with it. there's more to this on those particular claims. nonetheless we already know he's going to be talking to elon's team within days and i think it could open up a huge pandora's box in the case regardless. >> elizabeth, we look forward to more of your reporting sounds like will be coming on this front. thank you for being with us. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. john fetterman is back on the campaign trail in pennsylvania as he tries to beat dr. oz. we're digging into that key race coming up next. erve relief from the world's #1 selling nerve care company.
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ing right now in florida, the last hours of voting in key primary races with the marquee race right there at the top of the ticket, the primary of the democratic side to decide who's going to take on republican governor ron desantis come november. voters are making a choice between republican turned democrat congressman charlie crist and nikki fried. nbc news correspondent shaquille brewster is on the ground in pompano beach, florida, hey, shaq, talk to us about what you're hearing. >> reporter: what i'm hearing from voters is strikely similar to what i'm hearing from candidates. so many are seeing this primary base and primary battle through the lens of ron desantis. you have the candidates saying and pitching themselves as being the stronger candidate to take on desantis in november, and voters, as they were going to the polls saying that that's what they had in mind. they did care about issues. they mentioned the economy. they did mention the environment or education, and then they also mentioned abortion, but so many
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of them said their final decision came down to who they thought would beat desantis. for charlie crist, he was saying he is the better contender. he has been a governor before. he was a republican governor in this state. he will be able to pull over independents, to pull over republicans to support him in november. for nikki fried, the art agriculture commissioner, she said she is something new. she represents a new stul of politics. she'll be able to excite the base, she says, and in this state that's seen a restriction of abortion access, she believes that she will be able to win over suburban women to help democrats win here in november. so it will be a tight race. that's what you're hearing from both candidates as we saw them vote for themselves earlier today, and we'll see what it comes down to. polls close here in florida at 7:00 p.m. >> shaq brewster live for us in florida, thank you, sir. >> heading to pennsylvania in a race that could determine which party ends up controlling the senate. you have democrat john fetterman
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back on the campaign trail in pennsylvania. he's wrapping up in pittsburgh in one of his first appearances seance he had a stroke in may. here's what he had to say about his opponent, republican candidate mehmet oz. >> of all the words that bring to your mind when you hear the words steel workers, does the word crew dit ta come to mind? that's not a word that's going to come to my mind, but you know whose mind it comes to? dr. oz. >> of course referencing that now viral video of dr. oz talking about crude ta and inflation that i'm sure you have seen. joining me now political reporter for the philadelphia inquirer. this race was shifted from tossup to lean democrat. talk to us about how you are seeing the landscape on the ground. fetterman's been off the trail. he's now back on. oz has challenged him to debates, in what some see as a ploy to get fetterman on the
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debate stage. talk to us about this. >> we have fetterman returning to the trail. i would say slowly, but he was at an event in erie two fridays ago. that makes oz's persistent attack that he's hiding a little bit harder, but now we shift to the debate challenge, which obviously, you know, oz is down in most polls, you know, anywhere between say five and ten points, and he wants to face fetterman on a debate stage. the fetterman campaign has not responded to those challenges. they've said that, you know, we will debate. we're kind of not going to take the bait here. we know who a debate would benefit and i would say i think the tone is shifting, a little meaner than we've seen, you know, the oz campaign has said,
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you know, if fetterman is too sick to debate, we want to hear that. fetterman's campaign has said he will make a full recovery. there are some minor lingering speech issues, and you know, i think that's all kind of coming into play as we see that we're in the final, you know, final 80 some days to election day. >> you also have some new reporting, julia, that former president trump is going to campaign with oz next week in pennsylvania. he is behind, as you've talked about in fund-raising but also in polls. how does that make a difference to you? >> yeah, the former president will be going to a key part of pennsylvania near scranton in the northeast, and it's going to be a full -- it's a full slate of endorsed candidates here in pennsylvania, and i think, you know, for oz, oz will be hoping that it's kind of the boost, the momentum that he needs, and it does come amid, you know, some reports of struggles to
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fund-raise for senate republican candidates and oz's own fund-raising challenges, so i think this will -- the timing of this rally will be important for oz and his momentum. >> julia trousseau, philadelphia inquirer. good to have you joining us for this hour of msnbc reports. "deadline white house" with nicolle wallace will start right after the break. ll start right after the break. a bit functiona. but we'll gladly be functional. so you can be free. booking.com booking.yeah ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ before treating your chronic migraine— 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more you're not the only one with questions about botox®.
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hi there, everyone, it's 4:00 in the east. more than 300 classified documents were found at mar-a-lago by federal authorities over the course of the past year. that's according to a stunning brand new piece of reporting by "the new york times." let that sink in. hundreds of classified documents, some of them containing the country's most sensitive national security secret were just hanging out at donald trump's private golf club in south florida. it is just one of the many stunning new details on the efforts by federal officials to retrieve trump's records, and the criminal probe that now looms over the disgraced twice impeached ex-president thanks to brand new reporting from "the times" ask a newly released letter from the national archives from trump's attorneys. that letter was sent back in may. it was first posted last night by a conservative journalist who was named by trump as his representative to the archives. "the new york times" reports

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