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knows about or is soon to interview those that are sources for "the new york times," they're going to have a substantial criminal case. >> substantial indeed. the fallout from the bombshell reporting that fbi agents seized more than 300 classified documents from mar-a-lago, some containing the most sensitive secrets, shocking, but not surprising given trump's history. also tonight, ron desantis fancies himself a political tom cruise. and voters today are choosing the wannabe's opponent. >> beto o'rourke is taking on greg abbott for governor. he joins me tonight. plus, our worst fears are am cog true. republicans forced birth laws are mandating women and girls to continue with pregnancies that will not even result in the birth of a living child. but the fight for abortion rights is on the march.

we begin "the reidout" tonight with what we're learning about just how highly classified the documents were that donald trump squirreled away at his florida mansion resort. and the security threat they could present. according to a may letter from the national archives to one of trump's lawyers, the initial 15 boxes trump turned over in january contained 700 pages that were marked as, quote, classified national security information up to the level of top secret and including sensitive come partmented information and special access program materials. what does that mean? it suggests some of the most highly protected material in the u.s. government, material that if disclosed could betray sources and methods, was taken by trump on his way out the door from the white house. while his current and former lawyers have claimed that mar-a-lago is as secure statistics, a veritable fort knox fully, there are countless

examples refuting that claim and showing the extreme risk that trump was willing to take with hour national security. there is the chinese businesswoman by the name of yu jing jang. she was actually deported last year to china after serving a prison sentence in southern florida. that's because back in 2019 she trespassed at mar-a-lago, initially making it past secret service agents at a security checkpoint. eventually she was detained and found to be carrying four cell phones, a laptop computer, a hard drive, and a thumb drive that may have included some form of malware, and apparently back in her hotel room, she had a device that detects hidden cameras and more than $8,000 in cash. she claimed she just wanted to meet donald trump, but as nbc news reported at the time, the full story remains unclear. because prosecutors filed secret evidence under seal saying ed the national security

implications. judge roadway altman wrote in court papers that releasing the evidence could cause serious damage to the country. but she wasn't within the able to infiltrate the president's florida residence. in 2018 a college freshman was able to sneak in, also passing through a secret service security screening. he was able to wander around for a while before he was stopped. the teen told the judge, i wanted to see how far i could get. apparently pretty far. so if an 18-year-old can walk right in, what do you think might have happened in 2018 when a russian surveillance ship was spotted off the coast of southern florida? how difficult it would have been for the kremlin to make their way in? when it comes to mar-a-lago, they wouldn't have had to even set foot on the property to cause a security breach. in 2017, journalists from propublica and gizmo doe parked

a 17-foot motor boat behind mar-a-lago to test its internet security. within a minute, we spotted three weekly encrypted wi-fi networks. we could have hacked nem in less than five minutes, but we refrained, unquote. trump has shown just how protective he is about classified national security information. there's the time in 2017 when he was getting briefed on the public dining area -- in the public dining area of mar-a-lago about a north korean missile test alongside japanese prime minister shinzo abe for all the paying members to see and overhear. trump aides were using cell phone lights pointed towards sensitive documents to openly discuss how they should respond. all of this happened before trump decided to use his resort as a de facto trump national archive. as "the new york times" reports, in total more than 300 documents with classified markings have been recovered so far from

mar-a-lago according to multiple people briefed on the matter. just think about what it cow meant if someone snuck into mar-a-lago since trump left the white house, they could have made their way to any one of the classified documents sitting around the resort. according to the "times," it's not like trump was unaware of what was there. multiple people briefed on the matter tell the "times" the former president personally went through the boxes in late 2021 before handing over the first batch in january. nbc news has also reached out to federal authorities and the trump team for comment but has not received a response. joining me now, jvid ali, associate professor at the ford school of public policy. barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney and president of the university of michigan law school, and antonio fin. thank you for being here. i do want to go back and start with you, mr. fin, about

mar-a-lago itself. we know it's a bit of a circus down there. it's got a golf club, it's donald trump's playground for his celebrities friends. this is one of the headlines here. this is from your reporting. mar-a-lago was always a national security red flag. when you have a location like the white house or the texas ranch 99% of the people coming in and out are known, fully vetted individuals depending on their clearances and access, says ross thompson. mar-a-lago was a private club with potentially hundreds of guests and staff present throughout much of a 24-hour day during palm beach's social season that runs from october to mid-may. that makes the vetting challenge harder. talk about mar-a-lago. how open -- it's obviously easy to get on. >> well, we reported that. you mentioned the 18-year-old that walked through a tunnel that connects the main club to the beach club and he just walked in in jeopardy to see how far he could get. we had it two chinese nationals.

but the fact of the matter is this is a club that is unlike any other residence used by a previous president because it is a business. it is where hundreds of people have access to, and not the just members, but their guests, friends, whoever they might bring in. >> did this change at all, mr. fin, ones donald trump was president of the united states? did they change their security protocols other than having secret service there renting golf carts to drive him around? other than that, did they change anything about security? >> no. i mean, i went to events there. i gave them my driver's license, they did a background check to the extent that they did. then i walked onto the property and i was basically, you know, i had things to do, but i could have meandered around like any other guests there. >> it seems obvious what a threat to national security that could be. but walk us through -- just give us, you know, scary is caring.

how dangerous would it be to have highly secret national security documents in a place like that? >> joy, great to be with you and great to be with my colleague barbara from michigan. getting to your question, yeah, this is extremely concerning. as someone who's a former intelligence professional like myself that spent a year in the white house, when you're handling this type of information, whether it's coming to you in written form with documents or even information orally, it has to be -- these conversations and the documents have to be contained in what are called special compartmented information, or scif, you can't discuss anything outside the four walls of those kind of facilities. so the fact that there were hundreds of pages or dozens of documents, sensitive documents in mar-a-lago for quite some period of time, and not in a scif, as an intelligence professional, that's highly

alarming. >> can you explain in some way -- or conceive in your mind how it could be possible that highly secretive documents could have even left the white house without somebody knowing that it happened? >> well, this must have happened in the process of president trump leaving the white house and why there wasn't a more thorough examination of documents that were being transferred out of the white house into his possession, that is an open question. we don't have an answer to that. but it shouldn't have happened. every time a president leaves, there should be a very methodical and deliberate search to make sure someone even unintentionally doesn't walk away with these documents, but that doesn't appear to be the case. >> clearly not. barbara, let's go to what happened with the process of the government saying give us this back. chief of the the counterespionage section of the doj went to mar-a-lago to meet with two trump lawyers, evan

corcoran and christina bob, and retrieve any remaining classified material for subpoena. mr. brad and the agents were given a sheet of classified material according to two people familiar with the meeting. dr. corcoran drafted a statement which was signed. it asserted to the best of of her knowledge, all classified material was there, had been returned according to people familiar with the statement. that clearly wasn't true. christina bob, should she be in some trouble? >> yes, absolutely. now, it would have to be that she knew that she was making a false statement. it may be that she relied in good faith on misrepresentations made by other lawyers or even donald trump himself. but one of the really interesting things about that chronology is it shows the efforts by the justice department to get these documents back. it starts with requests for voluntary compliance. in january, here you go, 15 boxes, all set. that's not all of it.

come on, hand it over. here's the subpoena this time. we mean it. this is backed by a court order, empty your pockets, give us everything, and they give a sheaf of documents. and then it turns out there's 26 more boxes. it takes a search warrant to get it back. i know there have been accusations that the justice department and the fbi have engaged in overreach by using the search warrant to get these documents back. if anything, i think it's been underreach. they have treated donald trump with such kid gloves. and uncle heard from javid, these are the nations's crown jewels of secrets that have been kept off site in a vulnerable place for months and months and months. i would like to see a justice department, frankly, that acted a little more aggressively to safe guard our nation's secrets. >> if i was to have documents that should've been in a scif and they were highly classified and they were at my house, how might i have been treated than trump? trump is acting as of he was treated like a common criminal, which it sounds like he might

be. >> if you were in possession of those, trust me, you would have fbi agents knocking on your door and the same would apply to barbara and myself had we knowingly and willingly walked away with very sensitive documents and then not turned them back over, even if somehow there was a mistake in the process. yes, the fbi would have come knocking as well. so i don't think this was an example of fbi overreach. i say that as a former fbi official too. but i just think the bureau they are exhausting these options and using the last tool they had to get this information back in the government's hands. >> they would have kicked down the door. barks to go back to this filing donald trump put in. this is the judge's response. ordering trump to give details about the mar-a-lago search lawsuit. this is in response asking a federal judge to appoint a special master to review the documents that were seized and

give back anything that's not relevant. judge eileen can, what is the jurisdiction, and what relief are they seeking from the judge, including an injunction, and what effect this filing has an existing proceedings has? in plain english, nonlawyer english, what does that mean? >> i think she's issuing an order saying what the hell is this? it's procedurally just a mess. it's a brand-new lawsuit. it states no cause of action. it is unclear why this wasn't filed with the magistrate judge who already has jurisdiction over this case and who has been deciding it. she's asked some very obvious, pointed questions. i think it would have been her right to simply dismiss it as improvidently filed. she's giving the benefited on a short leash to ask how is it i

have jurisdiction? why aren't you asking the magistrate for this? i think she's asking for clarity. it's unclear to me why lawyers would sign their names to this document. it's really just a long rant by donald trump talking about how he's yet again a victim here. substantively, asking for a special master is not unheard of. sometimes it is done in cases where there is likely to be privileged documentation, attorney/client privilege, for example, michael cohen when his office was searched, a special master was appointed there to review the material as a filter to make sure that anything that was protected by attorney/client privilege didn't get turned over. that would make some sense. here, though, the basis for those requests is executive privilege and you can't super cede privilege. it's a bit of a mess. i expect it to go nowhere, but the judge has given him courtesy of asking these questions to see

if there's any basis for giving him any relief here. >> he is getting more courtesy than david pit trace. donald trump, mr. bone spurs, who might have thieved classified material is being treated better. make make sense. thank you all very much. up next, it's primary night with democracy on the line in florida. incumbent democrats are duking it out in new york against each other. "the reidout" continues after this.

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. it's another big primary day with voters in two of america's largest states, new york and florida, headed to the polls. now, in new york redistricting led to multiple intraparty battles for democrats. and then there's florida. where congressman and former governor charlie crist and nikki fareed are locked in a contest. let's start with steve kornacki at the big board. i know polls have just recently closed, but we know we got to panhandle coming in at 8:00, but the bulk have closed. >> we're look at a blowout, joy. there's a slice of the state here you mentioned, part of the panhandle that won't close until 8:00 eastern, but it's a small sliver in terms of the overall vote. florida is one of those states that count it quickly.

you can see we basically got two-thirds of the vote already counted up here in the democratic race and all you see is that charlie crist blew throughout the state, one exception there, gainesville, where the university of florida is, where fried is winning. his congressional district that he currently represents is right here in the tampa area. but take a look at a place like orange county. this is where orlando is. he's running near 60% of the vote. the big counties here in south florida, broward county, better than 2 to 1. miami-dade basically 2 to 1. palm beach, basically 2 to 1. so because the state doesn't all close until 8:00, nbc won't make an official characterization of this race until 8:00 p.m. eastern. but again, you can see that's only because a very small sliver here, both geographically and in terms of the electorate in the democratic primary, a small sliver won't close till 8:00.

but you clearly get the picture that charlie crist already is having an extremely good night in this democratic primary in florida. winner of this democratic primary gets ron desantis in the fall. if this is indeed charlie crist, he was the republican governor from 2006 to 2010. he ran as the democratic nominee for governor in 2014 and lost in a close one to rick scott. this would be his third time running for governor, second time as a democrat. >> yeah. real quick, before i let you go, steve. people have come to think of florida as the worst voting state, you know, where people don't know what they're doing. explain to folks who are not familiar with it as you and i are, why florida finishes so quickly, why we get numbers so fast. >> great point because we remember 2000 in florida and it was the site of the worst disaster for re-election reporting that we can remember two decades ago. but they made changes in the wake of that. basically florida has extensive mail-in voting and extensive early voting and same-day voting. and they allow the processing of

all those early votes, the processing of the mail-in votes long before polls close on election night. in fact, the rule is counties have the first 30 minutes after polls close, counties must report out all of the early vote they have and all of the mail vote they have. it means at 7:00 eastern -- that's why every election -- this would be true this fall, a little preview. 7:00 p.m. eastern time this fall we'll spend a lot of time looking at florida because where it's going to get the most results, lights up like a christmas tree in the first 30 minutes. >> oh, i remember it well. steve kornacki, thank you very much, my friend. appreciate you now, for his part, ron desantis is looking way past november, running the world's most transparent and in some ways most hilarious 2024 campaign. look no further than his "top gun"-themed ad. >> good morning, ladies and gentlemen. this is your governor speaking. today's training evolution, dog fighting, taking on the

corporate media. the rules of engagement are as follows. number one, don't fire unless fired upon. but when they fire, you fire back with overwhelming force. >> sorry. ooh, lord, baby, find somebody who loves you enough to never ever let you look that ridiculous on video. come on now. what's his call name going to be, i hate drag brunch? lord have mercy. joining me now is former senator claire mccaskill of missouri, msnbc political analyst or ali vitali, capitol hill correspondent and author of the new book "electable: why america hasn't put a woman in the white house yet." it's out today. pick it up. i'll get it signed before i let this lady leave here. i got to come to you, my sister. the "top gun" ad. >> what woman would put an ad

out like that? >> his wife tweeted out -- it's one of those things where nobody who loves you should ever say that's a good idea. somebody should have intervened. it gets to what you're talking about here, the macho factor of trying to make yourself tom cruise when you clearly ain't tom cruise. >> doesn't get more masculine that "top gun" and in republican politics, you want to be extra as masculine as possible. >> that gave me the dukakis with a big helmet vibe? >> >> also like in arizona with kari lake, bde, big desantis energy. >> it's not one of them. >> outside my preview. >> he gives some energy, but that ain't the energy. let's talk about nikki fried. that blowout is significant. i have to be honest that that was going to be the outcome, that in this state, even though nikki freed is state-wide

elected, florida doesn't like to elect women. >> we remember 2018 when glenn graham was trying to make it. florida really did think they might have been on the cusp of not just electing a woman to run for that seat, but for electing their first female governor. we remember the ways that that shook out. and i think that fits the broader landscape of what i talk about in the book, how do you run as a woman for positions where we haven't seen women successfully run before, and that specter hangs over florida too. >> claire, you now have val demings who i would argue is the single strongest individual candidate male or female that they could have come up with to run statewide. she's just that person. she has the right down the road, i'm on that harley energy, liked by everybody that knows her down there. talk about her prospects, then, running in a state like florida that has had an allergy to electing women statewide other than a few people, alex sink and

nikki freed are the exceptions and they have an ag. >> it probably helps if val demings does love to ride motorcycles and is a police chief, not a sergeant, not a lieutenant, not a commissioner. she was the boss. and that's very unusual. i mean, it's becoming more common now, but it's only been in the last ten years that you saw women as police chiefs in major metropolitan areas. and orlando is certainly a big area for someone to run the police department. so she's got the kind of bon fides that ali is alluding to, that there are still people out there thank if a woman is so strong to do it, then she's too strong and i don't like her. and i think val demings has that great combination of strength, but she's normal and likable and can laugh at herself and smiles

a lot. i think marco rubio is in trouble. i know we're not talking about florida as often as we talk about pennsylvania. but let me put a marker down here. i think marco rubio is in trouble. >> yeah. and i think, you know, hallie, nra has a way of feeling predictable and predictively -- it's starting to look like it's becoming a red state. >> it's trending ohio. >> but it is still a state that the results are narrow. let's not forget that ron desantis barely beat andrew gillum. >> the race was close. >> both of those, exactly. so i think that's one of the realities of florida is it is always going to be a swingy swing state even when those swings end up on the red side of the spectrum. i also think with val demings, one of the reasons she's strong, it's a result of the biden veepstakes where they had as many women in that veepstakes

than ever before. but the goal of it from my conversations with people who were running it was to elevate as many understood women to the national consciousness in a positive way as possible. by and large, people like val demings, tammy duckworth, when i remember the when i remember the, all these names that are big names in politics and, frankly, will be going forward in it democratic party are elevated by that process because biden laid that mile marker. >> absolutely i would be remiss in not asking, in the end, how do you think this x factor of roe v. wade being gone changes the prospects for -- there are a lot of women candidates, sharon beasley in north carolina, val demings, multiple women candidates. does this change the dynamic? >> yeah, maggie haasen, katherine cortez masto, there are a munch of women that are running. but more importantly, i think what it has done, typically the midterms always, joy, it's a

problem of getting voters motivated. trust me, women are motivated after the dobbs decision. we saw it in kansas. the suburban women of america and marco rubio is one of many candidates who thinks the government should force birth on a victim of incest. that is not going to fly with american women, and i think they're going to turn out, and i think it made this election into something other than a red wave election. that singular supreme court decision and the fact that all these republican legislatures are trying to go to the ultimate extreme position in terms of how they are now legislating abortion rights in their states. >> i agree with you 100%. i think our analysis is exactly the same on this. we'll see how that turns out. claire mccaskill and ali vitali, who dressed to match her book. best of luck with the book. coming up, beto o'rourke is running for texas governor and

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from sunday evening into midday monday t skies opened up on the dallas-fort worth area with thunderstorms dropping massive amounts of rine, inundating streets, flooding homes and forcing drivers to abandon their cars. one woman was killed after her car was swept away by flood waters. while rainfall in dallas was enough to break a one-day record, it was not enough to end the state's worst drought since 2011. almost the entire state was under some sort of severe-level drought. it's been so bad that cattle ranchers have been forced to sell off their cows because pasture land has dried up and hay is too expensive. parts of south texas are facing water shortage problems. and the high temperatures put increased pressure on an already fragile electrical grid. governor abbott refused to utter the words climate change today and has made texas the poster child for fighting

climate-focused legislation, directing state agencies to challenge any, any federal action. naturally he oppose the inflation reduction act, even though texas would be a major beneficiary, since they produce more wind energy than any other state, second only to california in clean energy jobs. but that's not the only storm brewing in texas. joining me is democratic nominee for texas governor, former congressman beto o'rourke, author of the new book "we got to try." voting is my thing, it's my favorite thing to talk about. so i definitely want to get to that with you. but i want to start by talking about this situation in texas because it feels like in some fundamental ways this massive state that could be a little country has utterly failed to account for what climate change will do to it. >> first of all, we are just want to urge everyone in north texas to follow the precautions laid out by public leaders like dallas county judge clay jenkins

and get your reports for fema reimbursement. we're undergoing the worst rainfall we've seen in 1,000 years in texas. these are the consequences of our emissions, our inaction in the face of the consequences of climate change, and our inability to take the right steps, the action necessary to confront this before it's too late. no state contributes more to climate change than texas. no state suffers the consequences more than the state of texas. but the upside is no state could do more to change this than the state of texas. we're the energy leader of the world to date, primarily through oil and gas. we're grateful for that. but let's expand that leadership to include more renewable energy, wind, solar, hydrogen, geothermal. we want those jobs in texas and

we want to do our part before it's too late. dallas, mesquite, these communities understand it. houston understood it in 2017 and much of the state is going through an historic drought that is hammering the ranchers and farmers throughout texas. time for us to act. >> texas, because of its scale and size, it really has become sort of an experiment, like a laboratory. unfortunately for some of the worst things that have happened in terms of culture. in terms of voting rights it led the way in making it incredibly hard for people to vote, focused on houston, that area, harris county, on abortion, stripping women of the right to choose and then putting bounties on their heads, in terms of textbooks, refusing to even have texas history properly taught in schools, which impacts textbooks all over the country. how do you change that? >> it's all connected. i don't think we get these results like a total ban on abortion with no exception for

rape or incest that greg abbott signed into law. i don't think you get the attacks on public school educators who are so grossly underpaid and under constant attack from their governor and state government. you don't get this if we have a true, functioning democracy where the right to vote is respected. but today in texas, it's harder to vote and register to vote here than in any other state and it's by design. and some texans are more the focus of that suppression than are others. when you have 750 polling place closures in our state, twice the number of next closest state and most of them concentrated in the fastest-growing black and brown neighborhoods in the state of texas, then you understand exactly what's happening. the only answer to this is more democracy, getting on the doors of those that are the targets of suppression and intimidation, making sure we help to turn them out so they provide the margin of victory on the night of november 8th. that's what this book "we got to try" is about.

we've been up against greater odds and have overcome them. not only is this possible rlgs we've done it before. lawrence nixon, i try to tell his story in the book. an el paso physician, founded the first chapter of the naacp in the state of texas. when texas outlawed voting by african-americans in 1923, he fought it for 21 years, won two signal supreme court victories, integrated our elections and set the ground for lbj to sign the voting rights act in '65. those victories came from texas. this is the home to that. >> the last thing, i would be remiss if i didn't ask you about uvalde and the many other gun massacres that have broken the hearts of the entire country, if not the world. it's one of the things that you've been strongest on. you had a little f-bomb moment recently that a lot of people were -- hell yeah-ing you for. why is it so difficult to pass

gun reform in texas when you could do it in florida where hammer is the de facto governor? >> it's because of our current governor who is more beholden to the nra and special interest gun manufacturers than the people he's supposed to serve, especially our kids. it's been 13 weeks since those 19 kids and their two teachers were taken from us. 13 weeks where he's failed to call a special session, even though he's called them for crt and going after trans kids and weakening the right to vote in the state of texas. won't call it to save the lives of our children and now they're all starting this next school year, joy, without any new protections to prevent them from experiencing the same exact fate that those kids in uvalde or santa fe high school before them or el paso, midland, five of the worst mass shootings in u.s. history have taken place in this state in the last five years. we need action and we need change and we need it now. >> beto o'rourke, thank you so

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intro the fact that abortion rights we know are gonna play a defining role in the 2022 midterms. people are experiencing the reality of what the ban is meant to them currently and what they've always been designed to do which is to our health care, our patients, challenge providers and people who have taken oath to save lives and to protect people and putting them in really challenging circumstances. to hear example of making people choose how they are going to address a challenge with unintended pregnancy that they can no longer provide access to abortion with when it's no longer viable. that's why planned parenthood advocacy and political organizations are running our largest ever electoral program in 2022 because people are enraged. they are completely recognizing

the fact that they're elected all over the country that are responsible for the mess that they are in and we are gonna hold him accountable. >> and we talk about the -- it could cause sepsis and kill the woman that's carrying this dead fetus. that's with the losses you have to do. what do you make of these lawmakers like the ones who suddenly after they vote for it when they realize that what they passed could result in a teenager dying because she can't terminate a pregnancy that is not viable? >> look, it's the proverbial dog who caught the car. his person who has this goal that they've been held in on trying to make sure that they were banning access to abortion with not really understanding fully the implications for what it means when you take away control to govern their bodies, when you take away the ability for actual providers to make the provisions for their parents patients to help them

save their lives. i think that that's potentially happening with many of these folks, that they didn't really fully understand the full implications. we also see the number of politicians who have been electing that are introducing laws that would further constrain right. introducing bills to criminalize what it means to travel across state lines to get access to care, further putting fear and a chilling effect on what it means to get access to care. all of these things i think are what people who are running for office now have to look at and be able to answer, and as what plan parent advocacy organizations and other partners are gonna be holding them accountable to. >> specifically, what's the plan for these? is this about funding and individuals, or funding state parties. what is the state plan? >> it's about normalization. not, what we have seen in the made a bit aftermath of roe v. wade as that we saw the antiabortion continue to double

down and it's radical, extreme agenda around continuing to extreme access to care. i think we have done is basically show people what the choices are. you can vote for the people who are really extreme on these issues, or you can actually vote to govern your own body with people who actually support your access to troy's. just look at kansas. abortion rights were literally on the ballot and we saw kansas come out in droves to support the right to choose. and so i think that's incredibly important. the american majority of americans do support access to abortion in every single state. when they look at what's happening, the numbers that have of states that have done these restrictions is also helping us how gerrymandered the states to become. how it is possible that you can have a state where there is a majority support but you actually can't have the laws that you want because you have these politicians who have been safely put into these states.

i think that my colleague abortion is going to save democracy, because i think will go state-by-state and we will transform the way the people understand not just what it means to fight for abortion access but what it means that's the best. >> and by the way hopefully the message will be communicated. state legislators and governors, planned parenthood alexis johnson, thank you very much for all you do. that's tonight all instead of chrissy starts now. ad o tonight on all in. a five alarm fire at the national archives over donald trump's failure to return top secret documents. tonight, the newly published letter of the ex president. and andrew weissmann on each revelation keeps looking things worse for trump. then >> president trump's legal team at quite requested the