called an income driven repayment plan simple and fair. here's how. no one with an undergraduate loan today or in the future for community or a four-year college will have to pay more than 5% of their discretionary income to repay their loan. that's income after you pay the necessities like housing, food and the like. you currently pay 10%. we're cutting that in half to 5%. after you pay your loan for 20 years, your obligation will be fulfilled if it hasn't already, meaning you won't have to pay any more period. and borrowers whose original balance less than $12,000, many of whom are community college students, will be done paying just after ten years. these changes will save more than $1,000 a year on average from a borrower. it's a game changer.

we're also fixing what's called -- this has been the bane of driving me crazy when i was out of office -- the public service loan forgiveness program. this program forgives student loans to encourage those students who had those loans if they go into public service. think of the millions who are. public school teachers, local police officers, workers at local charities, members of the military and the national guard, and so many more. think of the folks who work for federal, state, local, governments keeping essential services going, responding to natural disasters, firefighters and cops, the program is designed so that if you serve in one of these jobs, you will be able to list those, accurately assess whether you do, and make your loan payments for ten years, even if it's not consecutive years your remaining balance will be forgiven. it's a great idea but the program is a mess.

so inefficient and complicated too many people give up. think of a service member that defers their student loan payment while deployed. the system is so restrictive that their active duty service didn't count as public service. and the loan isn't forgiven as promised. it's outrageous. well the man to my left is going to fix it and the department of education has proposed changes to make this program work better and over the long term much better. and now the department issues emergency temporary changes to retroactively credit public service so it counts and loans are forgiven. since i've been in office, more than 175,000 teachers, nurses, police officers, have been able to get over $10 billion in loan forgiveness so far through this program. but this opportunity expires on october 31st, 2022.

so my message to all servants, all public servant, all those who are the ones that are volunteering, is, out with student debt to go. here's what you want to do, worried how to do it, go to pslf.gov. before october 31st to see if you qualify for public service student loan forgiveness. this is another game changer. we're going to have people there help get you -- help direct you and work you through the process. and one more big change we're making to the system is, we're holding colleges accountable for jacking up costs without delivering value to the students. we've all heard of those schools, students promised big paychecks when they graduate only to watch these students be ripped off and left with mounds of debt. my predecessors looked the other way for some reason, with good

reason, to do anything aboutexp education works with private education associations to accredit colleges and universities so they can receive federal aid. well last week the department of education fired a college acreditor that allowed colleges like itt and corinthian to defraud borrowers and combined with our emergency actions the public service forgiveness program and other acts we've taken we've been able to cancel more than $32 billion of student debt for 1.6 million borrowers, including those defrauded by the bad acting schools. our goal is to shine a light on the worst actors so students can avoid these debt traps. now i understand not everyone -- not everything i'm announcing is going to make everybody happy. something is too much. i find it interesting how some

of my republican friends who voted for those tax cuts think we shouldn't be helping these folks. something is too little. but i believe my plan is responsible and fair. it focuses the benefit on middle-class and working families. it helps both current and future borrowers and it will fix a badly broken system. these actions built on my administration's efforts to make college more affordable in the first place. it includes unprecedented investments, nearly $6 billion in historic black colleges and universities. much of which is focused on pandemic relief to help students cover tuition, and other costs to stay in school. i must be honest with you, i'm going to continue to fight for doubling the pell grants. i didn't get that done this time. let me say it again. 12 years of universal education is not enough. i'm going to continue to work for universal pre-k, for every 3

and 4-year-old and universal community college for education beyond high school. let me close with this. i ran for office to grow the economy from the bottom up and the middle out. because when we do that, everybody does better. everybody does well. the wealthy do very well, the poor have a way up and the middle class can have breathing room. that's going to help america win the economic competition of the 21st century because much of my time is spent how do we remain the most competitive nation in the world with the strongest economy in the world with the greatest opportunities in the world. that's what today's announcement is about. it's about opportunity. it's about giving people a fair shot. it's about the one word america can be defined by, possibilities. it's all about providing possibilities. we're going to have a lot more to say about this. there's a lot of material that's

going to be put out how this is implemented and i want to thank you all and god bless you all. thank you. >> how much advanced notice did you have of the fbi's plan to search mar-a-lago? >> i didn't have any advanced notice. none, zero, not one single bit. thank you. >> is it unfair to people who paid their student loans or chose to take out loans? >> is it fair to people who, in fact, do not own multibillion dollar businesses and give them tax credits? is that fair? is that fair. >> what about people who struggled to pay their loans and others don't have to? >> you have been watching president biden there, president biden taking a couple of questions after that speech announcing a series of significant changes to tens of millions of people with student loan debt.

you heard one question on mar-a-lago and the fbi search, we'll get to that, but he was also asked about this issue of fairness. the president as you heard him, issuing that saying let's talk about fairness when you talk about multimillionaires who got a tax break in the prior administration. president biden acknowledging in his words a ticket to college has gotten too expensive and pointing out he is keeping a key campaign pledge by doing the following as he has just announced now. forgiving $10,000 in debt for people who earn less than $125,000. up to $20,000 in forgiveness for people who are recipients of pell grants. he's going to extend the pause on federal student loan payments through the end of this calendar year, through the end of december, and then capping repayments for everybody, whether you have a debt now, get debt, taking out a loan of 5% monthly income, debt that will be considered forgiven, 20 years, 10 years if you owe less than $12,000. the president saying he believes this will have no meaningful

affect on inflation despite disagreement on that front among experts. let me bring in chief white house correspondent peter alexander, ellison barber outside new york university for us. the president also acknowledged something, he said what i'm doing is not going to make everybody happy. some people want more, some people want less. but he believes that this move, which again, will affect tends of millions of people, is responsible and fair. >> hallie, i think you're right. those were the phrases. he prebutts the criticism saying it is responsible and fair. the white house in a call with reporters indicated that about 90% of this cancellation of debt will benefit those making less than $75,000. an effort by this white house to combat the criticism that this is only benefitting the wealthy. the president, in fact, saying the loans erased up to $10,000 will only impact those making less than $125,000 and for couples making up to $250,000.

certainly there has been criticism coming from, among others, democrats, some of whom, elizabeth warren, chuck schumer said they were hoping the president would erase up to $50,000 in student debt. the number they settled on, $10,000, but, of course, it came after more than a year of deliberations following the president's commitment to this when he was a candidate. for republicans, they describe this as a slap in the face, some key republican allies of the past administration saying that, you know, what about the welders, the carpenters, the hair dressers, those who did not take out loans and those who paid their loans back? the president as you heard in the exchange in the end talking about the issue of fairness saying you want to talk about fairness, talk about the corporations that are getting -- that have been getting away without paying taxes for so long. the president trying to combat that as well. so he recognizes the unique challenges here, but this is certainly an issue that's

politically fraught, one that the white house appears motivated to lean into as they head into the midterms in these months before november. >> stand by for a second. i want to hit you on something else on the economic front. ellison, i think we cannot forget the people behind the numbers here, right, and, you know, our team spoke with one borrower who said she's thrilled to see this, but she would love even more forgiveness. on the other end you have, as peter noted, conservatives that feel differently. you're talking to college students and people carrying student loan debt. what are they telling you? >> yeah. in terms of speaking specifically to students we have heard from students today who have student loan debt. we have heard from others who don't have any. they say the concern about it, particularly for more advanced degrees, is preventing them from considering careers or career paths, where they might need to have additional degrees and therefore needed to take out student loans and don't feel

they can handle that financial risk. president biden, as he was talking about the aspect some will say this is good, some will say this is not enough, he used the term game changer. one of the terms we heard today from a student, a current student, was band-aid. he feels like this is a step in the right direction, but that ultimately, it is just, in his view, a band-aid, particularly for lower income students who really need help and this sort of relief, the most. everyone we have spoken to in new york city, students, they all say they feel like this is a step, a first step, but they very much hope this is not the last step. listen to what we've heard. >> so it's definitely a step and i think more is needed, when you look at college and the type of colleges and their costs, right. >> anything is good to get. i'm glad i'm taking $10,000 off of what i have out right now, but at the end of the day, i don't know if that's really -- if it should stop there. i think we could use a lot more loan forgiveness in the future.

>> the people that we spoke to today they also said this was something that they voted for, factored in to their vote last election cycled will play a role again moving forward. the message from new york city college students this is a good first step, but they feel it does not go nearly far enough. hallie? >> are you hearing any concerns about the broader economic picture from some of the folks you're talking to out there? >> not as much. you look at recent polling and you see significant portion of majority of americans from a recent cnbc poll in august are worried about the impact this will have on inflation. students who are focused primarily on schooling right now, at least those again who we have spoken to, new york city is a different beast than other cities sometimes, they're not saying that that is a concern for them, kind of big picture right now. they feel like the entire system here is so problematic and you have so many students, young

people, who could contribute a lot to society making decisions based on whether or not they're going to incur a significant amount of debt in college and that is creating bigger ripple effects that cause more negative impacts to the economy long-term versus impact as it relates to inflation or what have you right now if that makes sense >> it does. let me play more from what we heard from president biden in the last couple minutes. >> the outrage over helping working people with student loans i think is wrong, dead wrong. i ran for office to grow the economy from the bottom up and the middle out because when we do that, everybody does better. >> president biden there. ellison barber live outside nyu in new york talking with students and people who owe money here. thank you. good to see you as always. i want to thank our chief white house correspondent peter alexander who has been swapped out with white house communications director kate

bettingfield at our camera on the white house north lawn. hi, kate. >> hi, how are you? >> i'm good. thank you for being with us on day that is important to the white house, a day important to the president. i don't know if you had a chance to hear some of ellison's reporting my colleague out with borrowers but one described to her that though feel this is kind of a band aide right now and want to go further and see the white house do even more. what is your message to folks on that end of the spectrum who think this simply isn't enough? >> well, i would say look at what this is going to do for families across the country. this is going to be a massive, massive amount of breathing room for people who are currently under student debt that's preventing them from doing things like buying a house or starting a business. this is giving breathing room to the middle class to people who are going to use it both to make their family stronger and more secure and it's also going to contribute to the economy writ large. it is good for our

competitiveness. it's an important step and something as you know president biden said he would do on the campaign trail. he's making good on that today. $10,000 of forgiveness for people making under $125,000 a year which is really important point and $20,000 of forgiveness for pell grant recipients who you know come from families making less than $60,000. this is targeted to middle-class families and is going to help people get ahead. >> on the other end of the spectrum, i don't have to tell you what the argument is. lay out the rationale. why should people who did not go to college or who paid off their tuition have to foot the bill as taxpayers for those who have loans? >> well, as you heard the president say, he's never going to apologize for helping working people, for helping middle-class people. that's what this does. this gives breathing room to people who have worked hard, gone to college, struggling under an enormous amount of debt. college is expensive. you heard the president say a pell grant does not go nearly as far now as it used to many years

ago. so this is about giving those folks breathing room. it's as i say, good for our competitiveness writ large. it's good for the economy writ large. i think another important point here, is also about fairness writ large for having a discussion about fairness, the tax code has long been unfair. it has cut middle-class folks and working folks off at the knees while giving the biggest corporations and the wealthiest a pass. so what president biden is doing is across-the-board making the tax code more fair and do everything in his power to give working people breathing room and that's what today's announcement say. >> everybody heard the president say he believes this will have no meaningful effect essentially on inflation. but as you know there is not a consensus i think in the economic community on that. you have larry summers, one economic expert suggesting this is going to increase inflation. the chief economist at moody's says it will probably be largely wash, but the point if people are worried about it, nearly 60%

of americans think this move the president announced is doing make inflation worse. so what is your message to the people who are concerned this is going to hurt the economy more than it will help? >> well, as you say, mark zandi and others like him who have significant economic experience and perspective say that this is not going to have an impact on inflation. the president has been clear that he is making fiscally responsible decisions. he's going to help working people. he's going to make sure it doesn't have an impact on inflation. and again, look, a couple weeks ago you saw passage and the president sign the inflation reduction act which is going to have a significant impact on lowering costs on the things that people -- that have the biggest impact on people's budgets like health care, like energy. writ large the president is focused on bringing costs down and moving forward an agenda that will do that. we're seeing inflation continue to come down. we saw really encouraging data last month that the increase in

inflation was 0.0%. we're seeing things move in the right direction. there are a lot of economic experts who say this move will not have an impact on inflation. >> this is not the first time that payment pause has been extended. we've seen that happen in the pandemic and seen that happen in the biden administration. there is now basically a pause until the end of the year, december 31st. i can imagine that some folks come this fall will be thinking about their budgets for 2023, right, and wondering how to manage that. can you commit, will this be the last time that the president, that this white house hits pause on student loans and their repayment or are you leaving the door open for more down the road next year? >> the president has said this will be the last time, but this pause and this extension to the end of this year is going to give people time to do exactly what you were saying. to factor into their budgets, to figure out how to account for those payments. you know, coming out of the pandemic, the president believes it's time for folks to begin to make those payments again. but, what you also saw today,

was targeted relief to the people who need it most. the benefits of the announcements the president made today, the forgiveness that the president announced today, you know, 90% of that is going to go to people making $75,000 or less. people across the country who most need this help, they're going to benefit from what the president announced today. >> kate bettingfield, joining us from the north lawn. appreciate your time being on the show this afternoon. >> thanks for having me. >> coming up the other thing you heard president biden talk about, the search at mar-a-lago by the fbi. what did he know and when did he know it? >> you heard him say his perspective. ken dilanian on with new reporting on that front. we have breaking news overseas where the ukrainian president says russia has attacked a train station there killing at least 15 people. four passenger train cars still on fire. we're going to take you live to kyiv with the latest on this coming up. o kyiv with the latest on this coming up. ♪ ♪

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president biden just saying in the last couple minutes he had no advanced notice, no, zero, advanced notice of the fbi search at the mar-a-lago home. watch. >> how much advanced notice did you have of the fbi's plan to search mar-a-lago? >> i didn't have any advanced notice. none. zero. not one single bit. >> it comes as the justice department now has less than 24 hours to hand over the proposed redacted affidavit used to justify the fbi's search as a judge considers releasing more of it and as four u.s. officials tell nbc news top intelligence agencies do not appear to have launched a formal damage assessment, like a look, an assessment of the potential national security risk from the way these documents have been mishandled. current and former officials tell nbc news they find it puzzling it hasn't happened yet, although it is likely there has been an informal review done. joining me ken dilanian. there seems to be a thread that

connects what we heard from president biden just in the last couple minutes here that he had no advanced notice of the mar-a-lago search, not all that surprising, and something else that you were reporting which is that some current and former officials suggest the reason why the biden administration is potentially being super careful in this damage assessment, to basically put distance between the white house and the doj and the fbi here. it seems like the common thread is, that the white house and president wants to be exceptionally careful as it relates to the search and the former president to not appear to be showing any kind of undue influence. >> i think that's exactly right, hallie, and some intelligence sources i'm talking to think they're being too careful in this case because they think it's important to do a damage assessment and it's actually, by some interpretations, required by intelligence community rules, when there's a suspected breach of classified information to this extent. now there's a couple of reasons

why, in addition to their being careful appearing to be political, couple other reasons why they might not have begun one -- john kirby the white house spokesman for national security confirmed they're not doing one in the last few hours -- but one of the issues we're hearing is they maybe don't want to create a paper trail of documents that donald trump could then subpoena if he was ever charged with a crime that could end up in court and disclose more secrets, and another issue is, they may not believe there was an unauthorized disclosure. it was improper that these highly classified documents were stored outside a special room in mar-a-lago, but they may not have evidence that they actually went to an adversary or somebody that could really do harm with them, use them to harm the national security of the united states. but what our sources are telling us is, there's no way they could possibly know that for sure and so they need to look at these documents and make sure that no cia sources are at risk, no national security agency communications intercepts have

gone bad. those are the kind of things they would do in almost any case like this. >> ken dilanian live with that reporting, thank you very much. we are following some breaking news we want to get to out of ukraine where the president there, volodymyr zelenskyy, says that russia has attacked a train station. at least 15 people are dead. more than 50 others hurt. at this point he says there have been railcars that are still on fire and all of it coming on ukrainian's independence day a day the u.s. warned russia may step up attack on everyday ukrainians. josh letterman is live in kyiv for us. what do we know and what are we learning? >> president zelenskyy saying the death toll from that attack could increase, it could go beyond 15. apparently there were four railway cars that were on fire that have now apparently been extechnology ting wished but we're -- extinguished but we're hearing this is the, quote, unquote, congratulations for

independence day from president putin they were worried about when president zelenskyy was warning russia might be planning something brutal to mar this independence day and to remind ukrainians on the six-month mark of this war that they remain vulnerable anywhere in the country. we were in the nipro region two days ago where this attack took place today. it's a civilian area. this atta place today. it's a civilian area this is not necessarily military infrastructure but this is an attempt by russia according to ukrainians to really make sure that they are feeling every bit of this war, even as they are trying to celebrate this independence day. trying to cels independence day. that attack is the most significant we know about so far, but there has been other shelling. here in kyiv the air raid sirens go off more than half a dozen times, way more than normal and now into the evening hours there's more fear what could be coming next. president zelenskyy at the united nations today urging the international community not to take the fact that russia has not won this war to mean that

russia has lost this war, saying this is not over yet and that the international community cannot take their eye off the ball because if this becomes a frozen conflict, that could be really terrible for ukraine. it would mean them losing territory that's part of their country and so you see this call from ukraine today as there is this new deadly attack trying to keep the world's focus on this war as both the u.s. and the uk announce a new batch of aid they will be sending to ukraine. >> tell us more about that aid to the tune of $3 billion, yes? >> yeah. the $3 billion from the u.s. brings to more than $13 billion the total in security assistance the u.s. has provided so far and include, hallie, new surface to air missile systems that ukraine needs for its air defense to try too shoot down some of those attacks that have targeted kyiv and other areas of the country. we also saw the uk with more than $50 million worth of its

own aid including new drones and other weapon systems they will providing to ukraine and that comes as there's been concern as the european and western nations sort of backing off some of their support for ukraine as this war drags on on the six-month mark of the western countries trying to make clear the visit by boris johnson, to ukraine, they have not taken the eye off the ball and they remain committed to helping ukraine not only diplomatically but militarily. >> we are getting in just this hour, in the last 25 seconds as you were talking some new images of the train attack that president zelenskyy is talking about as tweeted out by the foreign minister there, and you can see just how awful the damage is and the foreground of the one picture, what looks to be remnants of some sort of van, some sort of vehicle. you can see what looks like bombed out pieces of the railway behind it, rubble where this train station used to be. president zelenskyy warning that

it is likely more people will end up dead after this attack by russia and all of it, josh, as we're getting this warning from the pentagon about the concern over sham referendums, that russia is going to try to create a pretense to say ukrainians want to be part of russia when that is not the case. >> that's right, hallie. you see those images you put up were on the twitter account of the foreign minister of ukraine. they are trying to make clear to the rest of the world exactly what is happening here as we hear from john kirby, the u.s. national security counsel spokesman, saying that these referendum could start in the next few days, starting, according to kirby n kharkiv, the second largest city here in ukraine. he says there could also be similar referendums in the areas of zaporizhzhia as well. >> josh letterman in kyiv, watching these developments for us, thank you. appreciate it. still ahead we'll take you live to texas for an update on uvalde where the school board

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couple of developments today in the investigations related to the january 6th insurrection. first you had the feds today charging five members of the militia group known as the b squad, which was allegedly ruby a former candidate for congress and the committee is using the summer recess to get deeper into whether former president trump's cabinet talked ability using the 25th amendment to remove him from office. giving hints at what the committee may focus on in the next round of public hearings set to pick back up september, next month. i want to bring in nbc news capitol hill correspondent alley vitally and justice reporter ryan riley. first to report on the militia arrest. a couple things stood out about the charges, and its leader. >> that's right. there were three arrests that happened in florida and one in vermont and one in kentucky involving this b squad. b squad is a reference to, essentially a b plan, meaning that there were individuals who were planning essentially to what would happen if trump would

stay in power, this would be their b plan, to help him retain power. what's remarkable about this, this was organized by a former candidate for the gop nomination, house nomination, in florida who had been running for several months and also that he organized an entire block of hotels in d.c. on january 6th. they -- the fbi affidavit states that more than 40 people were staying in this block of hotels who were all part of this b squad so to speak, the number of individuals who were charged in this case are five and were all involved at the tunnel where some more -- some of the most egregious violence we saw on january 6th took place. it's another indication that this january 6th investigation by the fbi is ongoing. there's a lot more work to do. but this is one of the more complicated cases that we've seen come up. a lot of these cases have been one offs, one individual charged with their conduct, but this is

more of a conspiracy type of case where all of these individuals planned together and are charged as a group, in fact, here, hallie. >> ryan riley, thank you for the reporting. ali, let me turn to you and the committee sort of investigation piece, right, parallel but separate, focusing it seems on these discussions around former president trump's cabinet to remove him from office, which, of course, they did not do. >> right. >> talk about the significance and what it says about what we may see come september in the public hearings. >> it makes sense because what the committee had done prior to this august recess was lay out along a timeline all of the things that happened that got to january 6th. now, in that final hearing, they fleshed out what actually happened on that day, and, by the way they've spent their august recess, it's clear what could happen in september is continuing to carry that story line past january 6th into the conversations that were happening te highest echelons of the administration, among people in the cabinet. wave seen cabinet secretaries at

various points during the january 6th hearing so far, but by talking to people like the former national security adviser robert o'brien, transportation secretary elaine cho, married to senator mitch mcconnell, they're starting to get into the parts of the administration that may have been agitating against the former president because of the role he played in fomenting the insurrection on january 6th. it does give us a little bit of a road map, and it also goes to show just because we're not seeing their work, doesn't mean they aren't working during the august down time. >> that is for sure. ali vitali, our capitol hill correspondent and author of "electable" out this week, we've been crushed with breaking news, but give us in ten seconds the pitch why folks should read it. >> it's about why we haven't had a female president yet. it jumps off 2020 but seeks to show us that there have been so many women who have run before and they all are electable, if voters vote for them. women win if you elect them. hallie. >> also working in her off hours as well, appreciate it. thank you. coming up, we told you how

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searching for meaningful experiences and new adventures for you to embark upon. they say when you reach the top, there's only one way to go. we say, that way is onwards. viking. exploring the world in comfort. today's news on student debt relief certainly likely to be a relief for the 45 million americans who collectively owe something like almost $2 trillion. it's a moment that student advocates and democrats have been asking for for years and for president biden, marks a campaign promise kept. i want to bring in frederick bell jr., organizer for the student loan advocacy group, student debt collective. i understand you're one of the millions of borrowers trying to pay off student loan debt. talk about what this moment means for you. >> i think that this moment is

great for a lot of americans, but also, i feel like biden didn't really want to do this. the administration was hesitant to even admit they had the authority. this news shows that debtor organizing works, but i keep thinking that cancellation promises biden made during the campaign, and he has the power to cancel some of it, why not cancel all of it. i think that the means testing is a little bit confusing and the people that live in new york city and l.a. and folks that make over 125, but the racial wealth gap, 125 k for a white household and black household are two different things. yeah. i think a lot of americans are going to get relief by this, but i think that this isn't as far as he needs to go. >> so let me unpack a couple things there. you said it at the end. you would like to see him and the white house do more on on this front? >> absolutely. full cancellation is possible.

we see that this has created a new precedent. if he has the power to cancel some, he should be able to cancel all of it. so we don't want to leave out other naerns are just now getting to that 125 mark and trying to help out their families or people who make 125 k and have four kids, so that doesn't really -- this blanket solution to this complicated issue just is not far enough. >> you talk about a blanket solution and reference the racial wealth gap. federal student loan borrowers seem to be from marginalized groups. it sounds like what you're saying more attention needs to be paid to the nuances here of who owes money? >> absolutely. i mean, we can talk about how black women are disproportionately affected by student loan debt. they have on average 52 k in student loan debt. the 10k is going to interest, principal. there's a lot of things that need to be worked out with this

proposed solution and i think that full cancellation just makes the most sense. >> frederick bell, thank you for being with us and appreciate your time and perspective this afternoon as always. thanks. it is the first day of school in ohio's biggest district today, but students and teachers are not back in the classroom. here's why. teachers are on the picket line. they want smaller class sizes and better buildings to work in, like buildings with air conditioning, for example. students, they're not on the picket lines, they're learning remotely today. 600 subs stepping in for 3,000 teachers on strike. with the school not open, libraries and community centers are helping students try to get on their classes online. you're going to see both sides in the strike get back to the bargaining table this afternoon. we don't have word on whether they've figured out an agreement here. maggie vespa is in columbus, ohio. good to see you. bring us up to speed. >> reporter: right. hallie, i think you nailed the main point. the big question hanging over columbus today is, will there be

any progress in the bargaining session? as you know that is a union negotiation so until there's an offer and until members have a chance to vote well, don't expect any kind of tangible updates. we could get some new info out today on, perhaps, like an offer or scheduled vote or at least the next round of bargaining sessions. everybody here today who we talked to, teachers, especially, but also their supporters, and kids learning remotely, but we saw a lot skipping school and joining teachers on the picket lines out in front of the schools in columbus. they're feeling confident that after three days of strikes and especially still striking on the first day of school, that they can get the district to move and get their demands met. here is what the spokesperson for the teachers union told us earlier this week. >> this conflict is not about salary. our focus is accountability and fixing these schools. it's time now to actually put your words into action and show people that you are actually

going to follow what the constituents want you to do, which is listen to your teachers, get this contract negotiated and get our kids back into schools. safe schools. fully resourced schools in ever. >> now in the meantime what's happening in the first thai of school, the plan, at least is to have the students in this school roughly 47,000 of them learning remotely. we have, just to put it in perspective, more than 3300 teachers on strike as part of at union. the district in a last-minute scramble found 600 substitutes for those 3300+ teachers. this is definitely not a situation that's sustainable in any way, shape or form. students know that, teachers know that, the district knows that and everyone hoping the negotiations move forward today and hopefully we can get some news and resolution. >> i know you'll be there to

report it for us. >> maggie vespa live in columbus. let's take you to texas because in three hours in uvalde we will find out if the school police chief will lose his job for his response of the horrific shooting of uvalde. the board will meet to decide whether or not to fire him. arredondo and others waited more than an hour to confront the gunman. he's defended himself saying he didn't know he was supposed to be incident commander. gabe gutierrez feels like a long time coming. i don't know that we expect many surprises, but talk us through what we anticipate the outcome being here and importantly, i think, we always in the story want to listen to parents and families, what are we listening from him? >> this has been a long time coming. the school superintendent has recommended that pete arredondo be fired and there have been several delays in the last

several meetings and there's been a lot of frustration among parents in that community, and if we can put up quickly the time line of events here that we have seen in the last several months. you can see right there the massacre of course, happened may 24th, exactly three months ago today on june 22nd. arredondo placed on unpaid leave. on july 2nd he resigns from the city council and still technically keeps his job. all this played out as state investigators were in july. on july 23rd, the national status meeting on pete arredondo's job and in that report, the state investigation, the texas department of public safety essentially blamed arredondo for him being behind the reason why officers did not go in.

since then, members of the community have been sounding off asking for his resignation or his firing. let's take a listen to one member of the community down there, a parent of a child at u valdy and what the mood is like there now. [ speaking non-english ] >> certainly, hallie, the school year starting just a few weeks in uvalde. the school board meeting is eagerly anticipated tonight. many parents in that community want the resignation of pete arredondo, exactly three months after the massacre. they don't want just his resignation. they want him to be fired. some feel that even if he were fired today that it could be too little, too late. again, hallie, he has said that he did not believe he was the

incident commander of that -- during that massacre, hallie. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you very much for that reporting and we'll be watching how that meeting goes tonight. we appreciate it. >> to florida now, where the former governor is set to take on the current one, ron desantis. chris has an interesting strategy here saying he doesn't want the support of desantis voters. shaquille brewster who is in fort lauderdale. shaq, this is one of the marquee races in the governor slate. florida, particularly closely watched because of the speculation that desantis will be a 2024 contender. he's fairly popular in florida. for charlie crist saying he doesn't want desantis supporters, what is his plan for a path? >> hallie, back and forth on the first day of the general election. welcome to this campaign, welcome to florida. i just got off the phone with the communications director for the crist campaign and they're

saying while this is -- they're signaling while this is not something that they want to be talking about, they're saying that quote that was already making its rounds on twitter is not the full context. they're saying the message that we've been seeing from crist before he even locked up the nominations that he was the strongest to the go up against desantis because he believed he would be able to make the point that desantis is governing out of hate. he said that it's about division, and you saw even in the first campaign video from the crist campaign, he's trying to say that he wants to govern out of love, bringing people together, bringing coalitions together. he was then asked during a press conference this morning in a follow-up crist was asked, what do you say for people going to vote for desantis anyway and that's when this moment happened. listen here. >> those who support the governor should stay with him and vote for him and i don't want your vote. if you have that hate in your heart, keep it there. i want the vote of the people of florida who care about our state. good democrats, good

independents, good republicans unify with this ticket. >> the campaign emphasizing the second half of that quote and even some of the context of the rest of the press conference where he's saying he's trying to build a coalition and not writing off all republicans. this is a fight and we knew this campaign would be contentious and the war room sending out a video online combining what you heard from crist what you heard from secretary clinton and the phrase basket of deplorables. we know this will be an uphill fight. desantis is a popular governor. he has more than $130 million in the bank that is trained now at charlie crist now that he's won that nomination fight. this is going to be a tough fight and you're getting a sense of what this battle will look like as we head toward november even on this first day of the general election. hallie? >> shaq brewster, get ready for

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