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his new show on peacock that explores how we could avert impending global disasters. that is all ahead. but we begin with president biden's ambitious plan to cncel thousands of student loan debt for millions of borrowers. 43 million people are set to have a portion of their student loan debt erased and 20 million could clear all of their student debt following yesterday's executive action by the president. he acknowledged it is not a perfect solution but called it a responsible step toward addressing a broken system. >> not everything i'm announcing today is going to make everybody happy. something is too much, i find it interesting how some of hi republican friends who voted for those tax cuts and others think that we shouldn't be helping these folks. something is too little. but i believe my plan is responsible and fair. and it focuses the benefit on middle class and working
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families. it helps both current and future bowers and will fax a badly broken system. and these actions build on my administration's efforts to make college more affordable in the first place. >> nbc's tom costello now with more on the plan and the mixed reaction to it. >> reporter: president biden fulfilling a campaign promise. cutting american student loan debt. >> it focuses the benefit on middle class and working families. >> reporter: but he's also stirred up a hornet's nest of backlash. >> i feel it is a little slap if the face to those who worked hard to pay it off. >> reporter: and from republicans who say it unfairly benefits americans who choose to go to college while ignoring those who don't. like truckers, plumbers, welders and retail workers. >> a lot of americans choose not to go to college. and then there are those americans who bought money to pay for school and paid it back.
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in what way is it fair to those taxpayers? >> reporter: many also argument the president exceeded his authority by slashing federal student loans. it effected 43 million americans. forgiving loan debt of up to $10,000 each for those earning less than $125,000. 27 million americans who received need based pell grants will get an additional $10,000 in loan forgiveness. a big relief for chrissy who has roughly $40,000 in student debt. >> it doesn't feel achievable to pay down. the $10,000 debt relief for me, it is not just a financial lift, it is even like a mental lift. >> reporter: president biden has been under pressure from his own party to forgive as much as $50,000 in debt. with lower and middle income americans struggling most to afford higher ed. >> it is definitely a step. i think more is needed. >> reporter: the average house with student debt owes nearly
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$59,000. 42% of those who go to college pay back loans over five years. loan specialists recommend using the freed up money now to lay a sound financial foundation. >> maybe pay down higher interest debt like conference call debt using the money you've been saving. >> that is tom costella reporting. and there has been mixed reaction to this. "the washington post" board calls biden's student loan announcement a, quote, regressive expensive mistake. the post writing it takes money from the broader tax base, mostly made up of workers that did not go to college, to subsidize those with valuable degrees. although it includes a income cap, it does not reflect need or earning professionals means those with high future salaries stand to benefit. extending the loan pause to the end of the year would cost $20 billion. while for giving $10,000 for households making less than
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$300,000 would cost $230 billion. and this would nullify a decades worth of deficit reduction from the inflation reduction act. and the post goes on, the student loan decision will not go enough to help the most vulnerable americans, it will however, provide a win fall for those who don't need it. with american taxpayers footing the bill. that is "the washington post." a different view in the los angeles times. which writes, this mini debt jubilee, accompanied by another extension of repayment obligations and anyone come driven repayment payment plan is addressing the slow boil crisis of student debt. some have criticized student loan cancelation as unfair because it reaches those with current balances, not those who have already paid. it is akin to complaining that one could beb knit from a program that does not previously exist. the pandemic has increased the challenges that student debt poses and cancelation is a step to reduce the immediate pain
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felt by millions of meshes. that is from the los angeles time. let's bring in andrew ross sorkin. good to see you. so we've got different views on how this falls. there have been some criticism about its potential impact on inflation, including from president obama, some of them economic advisers. larry somers and steve rattner earlier on our show. how are you looking at the impact of this on the economy? >> well look, i think there is two sides to it. if you are a beneficiary, it is a very good thing. having said that. in the context of inflation, i also think that there is no way to look at this and say it is not going to make things harder for the federal reserve and for government to try to bring down inflation. that is just the reality of this decision. the question is a philosophical one to is this some degree. it is a legal one to some degree. having covered the 2008
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financial crisis, we had bailouts in this country. huge bailouts of big corporations. it caused all sorts of unique politics to develop including the tea party. a lot of folks who got very upset that certain people were getting helped and other people if you recall. and then we had the same thing happen all over again in the context of the pandemic and how money was a lotted. we just had stories about celebrities that got ppp money and benefited in certain ways. so here we are with another -- i don't want to say a handout, but we've decided to incentivize or provide benefits to certain people over others and the result of that, beyond the economic result, is that we are going to have an additional political fight in this country that i think is just beginning today. >> andrew, there is also a sense that someone is going to take this to court because it is not legislation passed by the house and senate and signed by the
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president. it is an executive decision. but my question to you, is do you have any sense of who would take it to court? what happens here? >> well, look, there is a number of what might be described as conservative organizations, not for profits and others, politically inclined who could seek to take this to court. the question is, whether they would actually be able to. whether they would be considered to have the status to take this to court or have a right piece to make the claim. i think there will be cases brought. the question is whether the courts will take it. and then what will happen, is this the kind of thing that gets all the way to the supreme court? it is very possible. and you go back and do you look at comments that people like nancy pelosi and even the president have made over the years about this. and they have said that it would take congress to act for something like this to happen. so there is an argument to be made, having said that there are legal arguments that the white
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house has put forward base the on a 2003 law and some laws put into place during the pandemic that look like they might allow for it as well. so a little bit of a tossup there. >> you mentioned the comments from speaker pelosi. here is what she said last summer on this very issue. >> people think that the president of the united states has the power for debt forgiveness. he does not. he can postpone. he can delay. but he does not have that power. that has to be an act of congress. >> that was in july of last year. let's bring into the conversation, president and ceo of the naacp, derek johnson. mr. johnson, thank you for being with us this morning. the naacp had been calling for a minimum of $50,000 of student debt relief. what is your reaction to the president's announcement yesterday? >> i think it is a great step in the right direction. our goal is to ensure that american citizen have an
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opportunity to get out of the student loan debt crisis. unlike other debts, it is a super debt. can you not even get out of it in bankruptcy. the prior administration had a president who filed nine, ten, 11 bankruptcies but for student loan borrowers, these are teachers and hard-working americans who make this economy go and ensure our government is in tact. they needed some relief. but in addition to that, the interest that is charged on student loan is greater than a federally backed business loan. so we have put people before profit in this case, so i celebrate this administration for taking this important step as we continue to close the racial wealth gap. >> you've spoken and written about and given some good perspective on the dilemma that faces a student, a black american who wants to take out a loan to go to college. they begin with less wealth, they take out a larger loan and
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they owe more money over a longer span of time and the cycle continues. you could talk about, mr. johnson, how this might alleviate some of that. >> because this administration is also seeking to simplify the process, more students can navigate higher education in a way in which they could understand how best to position their ability to pay for college. but let's be clear. we have a structural problem. that structural problem started because states decided to give tax breaks to the super rich as opposed to funding higher education. we have a structural problem because the pell grant that was put in place, did not keep pace with the rising cost of tuition. we have a structural problem as opposed to ensuring that we have a future of educated americans, we allow universities to start looking at profit motives as opposed to preparing our young
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people for future. i had someone that thanked me for his advocacy because her 75-year-old mother was still paying student loans. we should put people above profit and i commend this administration for doing something, to have the courage to do it in the face of the current political reality. >> derek, do you think that this is politically radioactive and for democrats in swing districts who want to steer away from this issue because the margins are so tight, do you think that this is a tough issue for democrats to message and how should they be talking about it? >> i think it is a great thing to message. that this administration cared enough about voters and about people and could actually see the realization of their vote from 2020 in their pocketbooks. much of what we have talked about is a factor of the war in ukraine. that is what is creating inflation. the corporate giveaways that we have given over the hundreds of
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billion dollars, that is the effect of inflation. the tax breaks that we have given corporations, those are things out of control. but when it comes to people, we could not say what is going to cause inflation. we've had a pause on student loan payment for the last two years. any impact on inflation have been realized. now let's make sure that hard-working americans who work for federal government, who are teachers, who keep this economy going also benefit from the reality that they were put into a trap. a death trap. where so many of them are paying more back in interest than they are paying in principal. we have to fix that with legislation but for right now there is an excellent opportunity to speak to voters and say i hear you, i care about your pocket book and we are doing something about it. >> and what do you say, mr. johns, to the majority of americans who don't hold degrees from four year colleges who didn't take out loans, middle class americans and black and
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white and latino and saying why am i footing this the bill. thiss going to half a trillion dollars. why i am footing the bill for people who took out money to get an education? can you understand their frustration? >> well that frustration should be pointed out why is corporate america given so much tax breaks and the super rich undertaxed. this is a factor of when you see our tax policy, that is the unfairness. it is not working class america versus working class america, it is corporate greed, putting profit above people that have caused this hardship and we need to stay focused on that and not create this scarcity argument of us versus us and understand the structure of our economy should not be built on the back of american citizens who work hard every day being in debt. the structure of our economy should be a fair tax system that apply taxes equally to the super rich and in a way in which their paying their fair share and not building profit off the back of
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working class americans. >> the president and ceo of the naacp, derek johnson, thank you so much as always for being with us. we appreciate it. before you go. cnbc, andrew ross sorkin, this is a economic question that has far wide-ranging impacts, obviously. when you start talking about half a trillion dollars, that doesn't just evaporate. that is handed do you know to taxpayers, some rightly potentially would resent that. >> i want to comment on one thing that derek was saying clearly the tax code as we know is it unfair. i think a lot people look at it and think there are a lot of elements that are unfair. but the structural issue that has created the situation we're in when it comes to student debt is arguably that the cost of education has gone up widely ahead of inflation over the last 30 years and completely on controlled across the board and
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we've done very little, next to nothing and, especially those who have been calling for this debt relief have not been calling for structural changes to the world of education, to the world of education costs in the same way that we have for health care, which is also created a lot of issues and additional cost. so i think what we have to do longer term is, and it could be -- it is not an and/or. it would be and. deal with student debt and then figure out how to tamp down the debt across the country. >> i'm so glad you brought that up. elise, it is something that we were talking about this morning. a lot of schools that people are familiar with, i don't know if they fully understand have endowments in the billion dollars. some of them 40 and $50 billion stashed away and making money as investments every year could help to bring down the cost of the colleges. >> and plenty of the alumni of
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those colleges well why would i donate to you and laugh it off. but it does beg the richer question of why isn't this going to students and why has the cost of the education so outpaced what the salary is going to be when you get out of the institution. and i'm going to point some fingers at the higher education lobby. i think that it has been pretty destructive in keeping change from happening in the industry and it is to the detriment of the american student and the broader american public. >> got to get at the root cause of all of this. andrew ross sorkin, good to see you. still ahead, over a year before the fbi search of mar-a-lago, former president trump's own lawyers agreed the documents truck took when he left the white house needed to be returned. we'll speak with one of the reporters who uncovered that new detail in the time line when "morning joe" returns.
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president biden has announced a new director of the secret service. this comes as the agency faces growing scrutiny over missing text messages related to the january 6 attack on the u.s. capitol. the president said yesterday, kim cheatle will succeed james murray who announced his retirement last month before that text message controversy came to light. in a statement, the president praised cheatle's long career at the agency. in the 27 years she was the first woman to be the director of protective operations and also served on biden's security detail when he was vice president. there are new developments with department of justice's investigation into former president trump's taking classified documents with him when he left the white house. "the washington post" reporting this morning that trump's own staff agreed to return the documents to the national archives over a year before the fbi search of mar-a-lago. joining us now, co-author of that piece, from "the washington
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post," josh dawsey, good to see you again this morning. so tell us about this exchange between the national archives and the trump lawyer that took place a long time ago. >> yeah, so back in may of 2021, more than a year before the raid, long before we knew about any of this, we had former trump's lawyers and the national archives and what we see in the emails that we've uncovered is the national archives say we know you have two dozen boxes and sin the white house and while you were in the white house, pat cipollone, your counsel said the boxes will be returned and we don't have them and we're missing a series of other high-profile boxes ab we need those back. >> josh, there is striking similarities in the stories you've been doing on coverage of this slow return of presidential documents to donald trump's history of repaying debts, loans
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that he was given over the years in his business. that he would, after being hounded repeatedly and give up a little and then a little later. it is seemingly what he's doing now with the return of the documents. but my question to you is probably more anecdotal than it is from strict reporting. do you get any sense from your sources, in talking to them about this, why did he want to keep these documents? what was in it for him? >> that is a $64,000 question. i think that sources keep repeatedly saying to us is that former trump believed that it was his and didn't belong to anyone else. he thought it was his documents, his possessions, things that were just simply his. and he has a deep distrust of the agencies, particularly doj and fbi. these outlets at the national archives were out to get him after it was revealed he gave 15 boxes back.
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it is a bunch of reasons that we hear. he's told that these don't belong to the government, these belong to me. why he really wanted to keep them, i think we're still digging and trying to figure that out, frankly. >> because we don't know what is in the classified documents and we may not know for a while, given that it may take forever to have these documents declassified, eventually there is speculation about what is in the documents. and instead of nuclear codes, your reporting revealed and i couldn't help but to laugh out loud, the letters president trump requested, the letter from kim jong-un, and then a letter from president obama had written him at begin of his term. what else do you know about these? and i believe this is the first time that those two documents were reported as being within the cache. what else do you know about what is in there? >> so, it was a mish-mash of
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things. now we have dozens and dozens of boxes they've gotten back from the fbi and the national archives. it ranges from kim jong-un and obama letters and schedules and diaries and briefings to the some of the most sensitive secrets that our country holds. according to resources, a lot of things that were recovered they don't find to be particularly problematic. they are low levels or they are not classified as all. but there are also certain things that are highly, highly sensitive and classified. and i'm not sure that we'll ever know exactly what some of these things are. i mean, the way it is been described to us is some of the documents may be so sensitive they never want to be described in public at all because the intelligence community protects sources and methods an certain things that they think that hurt us with adversaries around national security. so i think we'll learn more about what is in some of the documents but i don't think it
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is a guarantee that we won't know everything, every. >> josh, your piece paints a picture of the national archives patiently at first and then with increased urgency reaching out to trump advisers an attorneys saying return the domes, these are not yours. they belong to the united states government and saying we're going to have to go to congress and now there is a whole thing about this. is that what ultimately compelled trump and his people to give back at least some of the boxes of documents? >> it is, willie. one of the things that trump folks have done in recent days and weeks is to say you needed to do was ask for the documents and they were being cooperative but the fakes don't show that to be true. for the beginning of presidency and for the course of a year to ask for the domes back. archives officials were pleading with trump advisers, we need these documents back, we think there ares missing and he said no, repeatedly, no, no, no. eventually they said we're going to refer this to congress and
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trump's people did not want that. the national archive folks did not want that. in conversations with trump advisers, they said according to our reporting, we don't want to escalate this and become a big fight. so the on stinnence over time came to a head in the spring, when they realize the first tranche of 15 boxes, there are things still missing and a lot of them have classified markings on them. sow have this long effort to try to get the documents back and once they got some of them back they realized it was more problematic than they knew at the time. >> elise is calling this the revenge the librarians, the national archives is getting their stuff back. josh, thank you so much. at least 25 people were killed an another 22 injures when russian rockets hit a train station in the central part of ukraine. at tack came as the country
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marks its independence day. president volodymyr zelenskyy said four passenger cars caught fire and the number of casualties could go up. zelenskyy also said in an 11-year-old boy was killed earlier in the day by russian rocket fire near that same area. ukraine officials have warned for days that russian attacks could escalate around ukraine's independence day. >> new polling out of pennsylvania on two high-profile races, including one that could help to determine control of the senate. plus, on tuesday, maxwell frost held off two former members of congress to win the democratic nomination for a florida house seat and now he could be on his way to becoming the youngest member of congress. we'll join us next on "morning joe."
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error and different from the polls from fetterman. sometimes with a double-digit lead. in the governor race, josh shapiro holds a three point lead over dog mastriano. a 2020 election denier was at the united states capitol on january 6. in florida, community active maxwell frost has a new title. that is democratic nominee for congress. here is the 25-year-old confronting florida governor ron desantis back in june. >> desantis, we're losing a hundred people a day do you dew to gun violence. governor, we need you to take action on gun violence. >> nobody wants to hear from you. nobody wants to hear from you. >> floridians are dying. floridians are dying. governor, floridians are dying. we need help. governor, desantis, we need help. we need action on gun violence. governor, please, we need your help. we're dying. kids are dying. governor, we need your help.
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governor, we need your help, governor. kids are dying. >> frost won his primary on tuesday and the race to fill the seat being vacated by florida senate nominee val demings. he will become the youngest sitting member of congress and he joins us now. thank you so much for being with us. you defeated former members of congress with name i.d. in the our. ho did you do it. >> it has to do with our message and thanks for having us on. it is a message around hope and love our community because when you love somebody you want them to have health care and live free of the gun violence, you want them to have affordable housing and that message and that agenda is really what brought us to a victory here and it is that message despite our governor, you saw that video, and you saw how the governor treats people who disagree with him and i think people saw a sense of hope in our campaign, despite what our governor is doing to this state.
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>> maxwell, i'm curious what you think about president biden's announcement yesterday, $10,000 of student debt relief and $20,000 for those with pell grants and some people in the democratic party had wanted much more than that. what do you think? >> think it is a great step forward. and this is a great opportunity for more people to come into the movement of canceling and ending student debt and i've said it many times and i'll say it again. we're in this problem not because our generation has lived beyond our means but because we've been denied means to live. i'm for the full cancelation of student debt but this is a great step forward. it will help many, many families, many people across the country. and the other thing we have to recognize, is this isn't just a issue that impacts young folks. we hear college and think about young people but there are older folks, folks across the spectrum who will benefit from this. so this is a racial justice issue, an economic issue and it is just the right thing to do.
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>> waxwell, you have a ambitious platform including abolishing the death penalty and demilitarizing the police. how would you go about demilitarizing the police. >> i think it has to do with working with folks in congress, working with municipal governments and county wide governments and ensuring that we do demilitarize the police and where we don't see that type of -- those type of supplies out on the streets. whether it be police or citizens as well. and i'm looking forward to working with folks here locally at building a criminal justice system that works for everybody and that is really what the campaign is about. >> maxwell, how much did you raise on your campaign and how much did you spend in your campaign and what kind of a job do you have that you could take leave from work to campaign? >> so, we raised, we just hit over $2 million.
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right before it was called. we spent, i believe, about 1.7 of that before the election was called. i looked at national organizing director of march for our lives. and the movement that came after the shooting in parkland, florida in 2018, that is the work i've been doing for two years. i quit my job to run for office because i knew it would take my 110%. and i'm not a wealthy guy. so i had to figure out a flemible way to make money to pay my bills and so i started uber driving from 10:00 p.m. to 1:00, 2:00 a.m. because it was the only job that give me the flexibility to campaign. that is all to pay my bills. >> that is awesome. there is so much cynicism around politics from young people your age and younger who have looked at the process and said they don't get anything done there, they don't understand the problems that change our lives. so why did you decide to jump into politics? >> for me, it happened ten years
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ago. it was the sandy hook shooting. and i remember the day specifically because after what i saw on the news, i felt kbel compelled to go to the vigil. i remember sitting across from -- who when she heard the gunshots hid kids in the closet to save their lives and she was murdered there. and i remember talking with matthew, seeing his demeanor and talk about his sister and seeing someone who was 16 with the demeanor of a 60-year-old talking about his sister who was murdered for just going to that morning, it changed my life forever. i went straight to my hotel room and said for the rest of my life i'm going to fight for a world where no one has to feel that pain again and that is why i got involved. >> i want to go back to your story of driving an uber while you campaigned. because campaigns are so grueling. candidates are constantly exhausted. you're giving your all. and you get, you were from 10:00 to 1:00 driving an uber.
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did you manage to convert a passenger into a voter for you? >> yes, multiple times. i wasn't always -- but sometimes you're having conversations with folks and you start talking about things and there is no easy way to slip out an candidate for u.s. congress. but i have relationships now with some of those riders who are people that live in the district and who knows even though if i'm the general, i'll be making a salary as a member of congress, sometimes i might flip on that app and get some rides but -- >> well good for you for stepping into the arena at 25 years old. if elected you'll be the youngest sitting member of congress. i'm sure we'll hear much more from you. from the 10th congressional district, maxwell frost. thank you for being with us this morning. coming up next, the appraising prehistoric discovery found at the bottom of a river in texas after the water receded during extreme drought.
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droughts and heat waves just spread across entire continents worldwide. killing crops, drying up rivers, and raising worries about our planet's future. even as they reveal tantalizing glimpses of the past, normally hidden from view. like in ornate 17th century garden in england. laid bear by record setting heat and most revealed by falling water levels like this island in china on the buddhist statutes believed to be 600 years old. i'm worried this local man said. i feel like the environment has become quite bad. i think it is a warning to us. >> in spain, a dried out reservoir displayed a village swallowed when the dam was built. >> the feeling is nostalgic as people see someone re-emerge said the town's mayor. some date back to prehistory in
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texas, a dinosaur left these 113 million-year-old tracks. other water ways expose the scars of the history's world trials. like this bomb from world war 2 destroyed by the italian army. and in serbia, a graveyard for junken nazi warships ep earthed from the danube. but other rivers convey urgent warnings about what is to come. in german tradition, the hunger stones mark the water level that's preceded famines. oldest one from 1616 reads, if you see me, weep. bob ward say the hints from history shouldn't be ignored. what. >> do you think that means for our present day? >> we're seeing more intense and more frequent heat waves happening all around the world. >> and said it is something we may have to get used to. >> and it is going to get worse for at least the next 30 years until the world reduced their
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emission of greenhouse gases to zero. >> a new reality that is living up to old warnings. >> matt bradley reporting for us there. we're joined now by bill nye, the host of executive producer of the new peacock show premiering today called "the end is nye." . great to see you. want to talk about the show in just a moment but the reaction to the piece. on the one hand those are breathtaking discoveries from history and the other hand the reason we're seeing them is frankly terrifying. >> yeah. okay. it's bad. let's get to work. let's learn from this. so, i think we're reaching a point, people have talked about this for 30 years, or when 1988, over 30 years, people have talked about the very things we're seeing now. there will be extreme droughts and the weather will get severe and there will be big fluctuations that will effect
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everyone in the world and this has been dismissed for decades. but now it is effecting everybody. and everybody can see the effects of climate change. and so, i believe that we're going to get to work on it, sooner rather than later and the so-called inflation reduction act is providing $369 billion for climate change, $4 million to relieve droughts out west, or to prepare for droughts out west. and that is significant for me because the conservative states represented by conservative politicians who may have voted against climate change legislation in the past, may now come around and we could all work together on this. >> it is impacting all of the states out there, if you look at lake mead for example, that provides water to 25 million people across seven states an the big bathtub ring that shows just how low the water levels have reached there revealing
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artifacts of their own as well. bill, want to talk about your show. premiered today on peacock. it is called the end is ny. let's take a quick look. >> why is it that every disaster movie begins with someone in power ignoring a sciencist? >> people are sick of all of the doom and gloom. >> because it happens more than you might think. >> this is going to really [ bleep ]. >> it doesn't have to go down that way. together we could save earth. with science. join me as i take on six world ending disasters. each one leading to my imminent doom. >> now that is a trailer, bill. that is how you sell a show about science. let's talk about some of the events that you look at to save the planet. the first one is a hydrostorm. what is that and what would it bring with it and how do we stop it? >> well hydro is the multi-headed monster.
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so certainly computer models predict we could have multiple enormous hurricanes around the world at the same time. four in the northern hemisphere and one in the southern hemisphere according to software people have would be catastroph. so, what we want to do is prepare for that. and sure enough, it's not exactly happening, but these floods in texas, kentucky, just shows you how difficult things get for people when we can't control enormous rain storms. so, we got to get ready for that. that's one -- that's one disaster that we present. >> bill, most of what you're talking about, most of what you're going to refer to in your series that begins tonight, what we were just talking about a few moments ago, lake mead, colorado river drying up, are obvious to
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anyone with eyesight and common sense, but what do we do about the host in increasingly large number of people climate deniers? we're on the verge of having water wars in the western part of this country. what do we do about the climate deniers? >> well, this has been a problem for 30 years, but as i say, i believe now the effects of climate change are so obvious that people will come around. and when it comes to water out west, these are generally very conservative politicians managing a natural resource. and understand, in the united states, the west depends on water. it always has. and people have discussed the problems associated withdrawing state boundaries on north and south lines rather than on watersheds. that aside, we now have to manage this water. and a problem will come when it does rain again out west here,
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and there will be -- the ground won't have the plants -- the ground cover that it would normally have. so, there will be mudslides, which is also very costly. of course, it affects people's quality of life and affects the economy when you can't move goods and services around on roads. and this is all easy -- or it's all straightforward. what do we do about it is what we're going to discuss in this "the end is nye" show. climate is just one of the disasters. we've got five more. we've got five more world-enders. let me just point out, the earth will be here. the earth's not going anywhere. we want to preserve the environment or conserve our resources for us, for us humans. and when you say it that way, it's obvious, but what we want everybody to work together to
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address these big problems through preparation. if we had these coronal mass ee junction says, particles from the sun that could interact with the earth's magnetic fields and shut down all the electricity in the world, that would be catastrophic. but there are steps we can take to prepare for that. just good old physics, we could prepare for that, and it requires investment, requires agreeing we have a problem and working together to get ready for it. so, everybody check out the new series. it's different. it's a new type of show where we have a disaster, some disclosure at the end of the first half hour, i get killed, six different ways. >> wow. >> but then in the second half hour, i come back and we talk about how we can address these issues with science. >> at least you can't kill off a
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star in the first act, so i'm glad they brought him back. >> i know. and bill teased five world-enders, i believe -- >> six. >> six, six. the one i want to hear about is -- so how do you stop a comet? that's one of your episodes. >> oh, i love that one. you know, so everybody -- understand that i have a day job. i'm head of the plan tear society, which was started by a guy i took a class from, carl seguin. we talk about this problem all the time. we'll be presenting at the astronomical congress in paris in a few weeks. but coming up, everybody, we have the dual asteroid redirect test, the d.a.r.t. mission. so, people laugh but, look, there is no evidence -- in texas you see the dinosaur tracks in the river. there's no evidence the dinosaurs had a space program.
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if they did, it wasn't good enough. on the show, we present the traditional ways people propose to give an asteroid or a comet -- the nucleus of a xhet is just like an asteroid t just has more water ice, so you get a tail when it's in sunlight. i mean, it's the same -- roughly the same material. roughly could be a pun. anyway, so what you do is you cause some of the material on the comet to eject, to ablat, to burn off. the way you do that might be with a nuclear weapon in space, you know, there's no sound in space, so or the one i like is hitting it with lasers, which is actually reasonable. hit it with lasers and cause the surface of the xhet to ablate, to burn off and the momentum of the burning off stuff would give it a nudge. but the key to the whole thing, everybody, is finding these objects. as the saying goes, looking for an asteroid or comet is like
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looking for a charcoal briquette in the dark. but they do glow a few hundred calvins above absolute zero. if you have the right instrument in deep space, you can find it. not the james webb telescope so much as an instrument with a -- a spacecraft, rather, with similar instruments on board. we support these missions. we go to the u.s. congress and, hey, everybody, this is a worthy investment. to keep the world from ending! >> that's a worthy goal. we have hydra storms, super volcanos, solar flares. >> as we say, low probability, high consequence. yes, check out the other five episodes. it's already streaming on peacock. thank you very much for your support. let's change the world. >> comets and the mother of all
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disasters, a ring of fire that unleashes earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanic eruptions around the globe. bill nye has the solutions, don't worry. the new series "the end is nye" premieres today. streaming right now on peacock. bill, thanks so much. good to see you. that does it for us this morning. we'll see you right back here tomorrow morning. jose diaz-balart picks up the coverage after a final quick break. eak. ♪♪ here goes nothing. hey greg. uhh...hello?
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good morning. 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. outrage turns into action in uvalde, texas. the school board fired em battled school police pete arredondo over the police response at the massacre at robb elementary. we'll hear from relatives of those impacted and go live to uvalde. right now we're keeping an eye on a courthouse in west palm beach, florida, as a doj has just two more hours to submitted its proposed redactions to that
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