breaking news as we come on the air. the release of that redacted affidavit could drop any minute. a judge is now combing through the doj's proposal after the government submitted their suggestions on ha to keep secret from the document. our correspondents and legal team are standing by. also this hour, two new developments in the investigation into potential election interference in georgia. what a judge is now signaling about whether governor brian kemp will have to talk to the grand jury. and the one-time member of former president trump's legal team scheduled to testify today. we're live at the courthouse. plus what the head of the rnc is privately telling supporters that party needs to win the senate. we're following new developments oversee seas. russian president vladimir putin looking to put more troops into ukraine. good to be with you. i'm lindsey riser in new york in

for hallie jackson. we'll start with the affidavit news. joining me justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian and former fbi general counsel senior member of the mueller team and an msnbc legal analyst andrew wisen. thanks for being with us. ken, let's start with what judge is doing. the judge has that redacted version from the doj of the affidavit. what are some scenarios of what could play out next? >> good afternoon, lindsey. well one scenario is that the justice department convinces the judge that so much of this affidavit needs to be redacted, that there's no point in releasing it. if a judge agrees with that, and he raised that possibility in his written ruling that we could end up here with is meaningless gibberish, if he concludes that he may decide there's no point in releasing it. the second possibility, a judge disagrees with some of the proposed redactions from the justice department and in that case he said he would allow them to appeal but it would be under seal so we couldn't see that and

that could mean a delay of weeks or months, and they could appeal to a district judge up the chain to the supreme court. then the most hopeful scenario for those of white house want more information about this case is that the justice department and the judge agree on a set of redactions that allows the release of some portion of the affidavit and that there's something meaningful in there that we can learn about this investigation. as i've been thinking about ha that could possibly be, it seems reasonable that procedural history of how the justice department got to the point where they were applying for a search warrant to send fbi agents to seize those classified documents at mar-a-lago, much of which has already been reported and has been included in letters, for example, that were posted by the national archives, that could be exposed without compromising the investigation, it seems to me, and potentially in there even the notion of why the justice department, if this is the case, felt misled or deceived in some way by the

trump side about the extent to which there were classified documents after they were assured there were not. those are the scenarios and now we wait. >> andrew, i'm going to highlight a keyword ken said, meaningful. most experts, including yourself, don't think a lot of meaningful material is going to come from this affidavit. it's going to be a lot of black marker. so what does that mean in terms of the next steps legally after this? first it was the search warrant, right. then it was the property receipt and now the affidavit? >> so i agree with ken in terms of sort of the goldilocks possibilities here, and i also agree that it's extremely unlikely that we're going to get anything that has to do with classified information that is really dealing with the ongoing criminal case, but i do agree with ken that most hopeful possibility for people who want disclosure is the sort of back and forth that led to why the

doj actually got a search warrant, maybe with some names redacted. even that, the government could very well may have arguments why that is really part of the criminal case and shouldn't be disclosed. it will be interesting to see whether the judge agrees with that because in his oral statements, he said that sort of whether something is meaningful or not is something he is not going to decide, but in his written ruling, he seemed to pull back on that. where we go from here, once he makes a decision, whether it releases some pieces or doesn't release any of it, is that the plaintiffs, that is the news organizations, can appeal that to the district court, and then there also is donald trump's civil case that is currently in front of a different judge, a district court judge, but there the -- it's really unclear

what's going to happen with that because the judge, the day after that was filed, basically said, i can't even tell what you're asking for. i don't know why this is in front of me and not in front of magistrate judge rhinehart deciding the affidavit issue. i don't know if you've served the papers properly. it was an insulting set of questions for lawyers to get the day after they filed. but that's sort of the other area where there will be some sort of ongoing litigation by the former president. but basically, i think in terms of our getting more information, it's sort of this is the sort of the whole ball game in front of judge reinhart, at least for the moment. >> we know the doj has come under a lot of scrutiny for the search from people who might claim this is politically motivated, but andrew, doesn't the doj care more about preserving its investigation over trying to quell any of those criticisms?

>> yes. that is -- that is exactly right. you know, i think that there's a certain amount that they have taken steps -- you saw the attorney general garland having an unusual press conference, but even there he said very, very little, and so they, obviously, are concerned about sort of these distortions of the press. i think that attorney general garland has learned from, for instance, the special counsel investigation i was part of, there is a need to, within the department of justice rules, somewhat fill that gap so you don't have the distortion, but i think that as you correctly point out, very secondary to the national security and criminal mission, as well as protecting witnesses. i think those are all going to be much more paramount to the people at the department. >> andrew, before i let both of you go, former president trump has been vocal on truth social today and in one post seeming to

imply that the investigation circumvents the presidential records act. what does that tell us about the former president's understanding of that law? >> well, i think this is ripping from the page of, you know, what is it, a good defense is an offense. i mean it's like this is sort of nutty. i mean, this is precisely the statute that by all evidence is, is the one he did not comply with. his counsel was telling him he did not comply with. and the reporting is that he intentionally not only took these documents, but then, for months and months and months, hid them from the archives and the department of justice. so for him to be crying presidential records act is like a criminal, you know, citing a criminal statute that they violated. it seems nonsensical. >> ken and andrew, thanks for

starting us off. appreciate it. in georgia today, no decision from a judge in fulton county after lawyers for governor brian kemp argued he should not have to testify in the d.a.'s election interference investigation. that happening as a key member of former president trump's legal team, jenna ellis, is appearing today before that grand jury. i'm joined by nbc news correspondent blayne alexander in fulton county for us. talk to us here about what's happening, what this judge is going to be deciding? >> reporter: well, lindsey, that hearing went for a couple hours today. no decision today. we're expecting it in the coming days from that judge. lawyers for georgia governor brian kemp were arguing to quash the subpoena, essentially arguing several things -- one, they're arguing a series of things, one, executive privilege and attorney-client privilege. they're also arguing sovereign immunity. third, they're arguing there could be political implications

from this because we're so close to the election. now what's interesting about this, is the legal filings and almost the day in the courtroom, is kind of the crux of their argument, but also something that judge said he didn't want to hear about, saying this was not the proper forum to discuss those political implications. this is what the attorney for brian kemp had to say today, essentially arguing that we are getting close to one of the most closely watched, if not the most closely watched gubernatorial race in the country and this could have some seepage into that race. take a look. >> now we're in the middle of an election cycle for one of the most closely followed gubernatorial races in the country. this is certainly up there. this is happening, coincidentally or otherwise, as this high-profile and politically charged investigation of governor kemp's role in it are reaching a cre shendo.

the intersection of law and politics in this way shouldn't be happening on the eve of an election. >> reporter: so they're essentially saying look, if you don't quash the subpoena altogether, let the governor delay his testimony until after the november election. they want to know what they're going to be asked. for the prosecutor's part, they're saying the governor, what he potentially has to say, is so crucial, that it is important that they hear from him immediately and don't want to delay that testimony. lindsey? >> jenna ellis testifying before that grand jury as well. what do they hope to learn from her? >> she's scheduled to speak before the grand jury today, but essentially, she's somebody who is a former legal adviser to the trump campaign. they're really kind of focusing in on her role in the 2020 election or after the 2020 election, specifically her role in setting up a number of legislative panels or hearings in which rudy giuliani came forward and made a number of false claims, really conspiracy theories about georgia's

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we are less than an hour away from the closing bell on wall street and keeping an eye on how the market is reacting to the economic news out today. first the updated gdp numbers showing the u.s. economy did shrink last quarter, but less than initially thought. the revised data shows gdp fell 0.6%. that's the second quarter,

second straight quarter where the economy has contracted. wall street is focused on what's happening in jackson hole, wyoming, where the fed is holding its annual summit. all eyes are on chair jerome powell, what he will say about interest rates, where the economy is headed and any plans the fed has to cool down inflation without causing a recession. economics reporter steve liesman is there in wyoming. with us ron insana, senior analyst and commentator and adviser to schroeder and a. help us make ceps to the new numbers first. what does it say about where we stand in tackling inflation? >> the inflation data contained within the gdp report was still a little bit on the stiff side relative to what fed wants. the core rate of inflation they look at within this report was still about, i think it was over 4.5%, and the fed wants to bring that down rather substantially. having said that, the argument for a recession is also been kind of poo-pooed and steve can

speak to them, analysts that do not believe we are in recession despite two quarters of back-to-back contractions. the economy is too strong for that to be the case and it's putting, given the low unemployment rate, additional pressure on the fed to keep raising rates. >> steve to you and what you're hearing on the ground there? >> well, you know, recession question is a big one here, and most fed officials that we have spoken to do not see the u.s. economy as being in one now or having been in one. the trouble is that by now in a recession, we would have lost 700,000 jobs if this were a typical recession. we've gained 3.2 million. consumer spending would be down and it's still up. the economy has definitely slowed but it does not appear to have slowed meaningfully into a negative contraction. what's happening because of the pandemic, things like the chinese shutdown because of covid, we have inventories coming in and out of this

country like a rubber band snapping back and forth and played havoc with the growth numbers. fed officials believe we will have growth at a lower rate in the second half of this year. so not a recession. i think the concern really that is underlying all this is, not is it a recession now, will it be one later? the fed is hiking rates at a rate we haven't seen almost since 1980 and paul volker and that's the concern, slowed the economy later this year or next year to point it is in a recession. >> what will you be listening for tomorrow from jay powell? >> so jay powell has to undo what he did last year. he said his best guess is that inflation is transitory, inflation, the cpi at least at that point was 5%. it's now as you know up to 9% before coming down in just the last report. i think that he's going to be pretty stern about the idea that fed is fighting inflation. inflation is here now, and doesn't expect it to go away because the federal reserve has

to really attack it in a way it hasn't in the past. i don't expect powell to mince words very much. there shouldn't be a whole lot of daylight out there over the question of what the fed is going to do. it's going to be raising rates until it sees inflation coming down. >> mostly the question is by how much, right, steve? >> exactly. that's the key question right there, how far do they go? i think they're going to take it meeting by meeting, report by report. we had one fed official who said i need three good reports in a row of inflation to even think about reducing the way that we are raising rate right now. >> ron and steve, enjoy that picturesque backdrop right there. appreciate you both. still to come, the head of the rnc reaches out for help ahead of the midterms. first, one in three women in america have no access to abortion and that number is growing. you're watching msnbc.

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the last hour. a federal appeals court ruling to temporarily block an arkansas ban on gender affirming medical care for transgender kids. it hits a pause on a 2021 law that outlaws the treatments. a trial is scheduled for october

on whether to permanently block the law. joining me right now is msnbc legal analyst danny sa val has. what does this mean for transgender kids in arkansas? >> the district court issued an injunction. this was an appeal to the circuit court to decide if the district court made a mistake. in this case the district court had to determine whether an injunction was warranted. we see a lot of injunctions today pap district court can hit the pause button on astatute like this. the plaintiff has to show they're substantially likely to win in the case us l ultimately and they may suffer irreparable harm if the injunction is not allowed. in this case the appeals court concluded the district court made the right call and did not abuse its discrechion an these plaintiffs would suffer if an injunction was not issued because this state statute

threatened their rights under -- the state statute discriminated on the basis of sex and wasn't substantially related to the important interest that it needed to be. >> does this give us any indication on how strong a case the plaintiffs have come october? >> yes, and no. in a sense, it's a judge saying an appeals court judge and a district court judge, saying we will only issue this if we think it's substantially likely you're going to win in the end. it doesn't mean you will definitely win and it's not an adjudication of victory by any stretch, but it is a pretty good forecast that a court was so confident the plaintiffs would win they were willing to pause the execution of this statute. >> danny, thanks for joining us. appreciate. it new abortion restrictions are taking effects in states across the country today. in oklahoma abortion is almost entirely illegal. doctors who perform the procedure there could face felony charges and hundred

thousand dollar fines. in tennessee, nearly all abortions are illegal except to prevent death or serious injury of a pregnant person. in texas doctors could face up to life in prison if they perform an abortion with narrow exceptions. in idaho a federal judge has blocked part of the restrictive law which goes into effect today. this is a narrow win for the biden administration and really the first abortion rights lawsuit since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade. joining me is julia ainsley. the judge issued a temporary block in idaho. what could we see next in this case? >> yeah, that's right. it's the preliminary injunction. it could be that later he decides to lift that and allow the law in full to go into effect. but what the judge struck down in this case was a portion of the law that would make it so that if a doctor was being sued for performing an abortion, that he or she would have to show that he did this in order to save the life of a woman -- in

other words if he performed this because he deemed it an emergency but later someone could argue you know what, she could have lived, he or she could be charged. in fact, it now seems that the judge has put a preliminary injunction on that piece. by and large this is still a near total ban on abortion, even in cases of rape and incest, you would then have to go prove that it was a case of rape or incest, in order to justify performing an abortion. it put a lot of onus on the health care providers and the biden administration argued that it was in violation of the emergency medical treatment and labor act and law from the 1980s that the biden administration will hope will serve as a safety net to kind of be the floor of what abortion laws like this can do, that they can't go any lower than that in terms of taking away access and rights to abortion in the post-roe america. it could be likely we could see the biden administration launching similar lawsuits in other states across the country,

leaning on that law now that it's been held up at least in this preliminary injunction in idaho. >> julia, thanks so much. both democrats and the gop are making abortion a key issue in primaries and the general election now just 75 days away. here for more is the man in charge of the messaging for one of those parties. dnc chair jamie harrison. good afternoon. thanks for being with us. >> good afternoon. thank you for having me. >> nbc news has a new poll out about the top issues facing americans right now in their words, and it actually shows abortion behind threats to democracy, cost of living, jobs and the economy. how do you focus your message? what is the central message of the democratic party leading up to the midterms? >> well, this is the thing, abortion is very akin to threats of democracy. it's about women's right to reproductive freedoms, to control their own bodies. it's freedom.

democracy is built on freedom. and what we see is a full-fledged assault by the republican party, this extreme party, to go after the rights of the american people. not only women's rights -- this is the first time in 50 years we've seen a retreat in rights as americans, but women's rights to control their body, voting rights, rights to free speech in this country are being attacked by the republicans and banning books right and left. that's what we see from the republican party, a party that is very, very extreme. what we are doing as a democratic party is fighting back and making sure that the american people understand that we are the party of freedom and we are going to secure their rights, all of their rights, in this country. >> if the elections were held today, who would control the house and senate? >> well, just like i said when i first became chair of the dnc in january of 2021, democrats are going to win. we're going to keep our majorities in the house and

senate and pick up governors mansions across this country. i know many of the pundits said oh, you guys must be smoking something or doing something, but i have been very consistent on this and i think the polling is starting to show, that the momentum is on the democratic party side because we are on the side of the american people. we're actually fighting for the american people. we are the party of hope. the super power of the republican party is fraud and fear. we are fighting for hope in this country and we are delivering on that hope each and every day. the list of accomplishments from joe biden, you put it in historical precedence, is absolutely amazing to think that this president and democrats in the house and senate have gotten all that they've gotten done with the 50/50 senate on a good day, and less than a majority in the house. >> one of those accomplishments that the president is going to tout is the student loan forgiveness announced this week.

some people are saying this is life changing. but then on the other hand you have people who say look, it isn't fair. i paid off my loans. or it doesn't necessarily target the people who need it the most who weren't maybe able to afford college. is this move about fairness or helping those most in need? >> it's about helping the american people in a time in which they need the help the most. this is a promise joe biden made when he was running for president. not only is it a promise kept, but he went above and beyond what he initially said. his announcement about $20,000 of debt cancellation for pell grant recipients, that's huge. how do i know that? because i was a pell grant kid. folks who understand pell grants and many are googling what a pell grant is f you have to google it, you don't understand what poverty is. many of us who had to get pell grants were just barely making ends meet, who were first generation in their family to go to college, who were the hopes

and dreams of their ancestors to get to go to college, and many of them are saddled with so much debt. so joe biden wanted to step in and help relieve that debt. it's going to be a really good thing for so many people across this country. >> what do you say to people who say it's going to actually contribute even more to inflation, including former treasury secretary larry summers? >> we heard from goldman sachs today who released an analysis that said this is going to have almost a zero impact on inflation. so, you know, this is just going to be a good thing for the american people. it's going to be a good thing for working people who have worked hard each and every day to make ends meet and even those folks, my mom, who didn't get an opportunity to go to college, but she worked hard to make sure that i could, said this. she said i'm so proud of joe biden. i'm proud from prescription drugs to student loans he's been working average hardworking

people. she remembers the celebration the republicans had $1.2 trillion that went to billionaires and largest corporations. >> you mentioned picking up governors' mansions. let's talk about one of the races in florida. charlie crist, under scrutiny for comments he made in the first day of campaigning against governor desantis. >> those who support the governor should stay with him and vote for him and i don't want your vote. if you have that hate in your heart, keep it there. i want the vote of the people of florida who care about our state, good democrats, good independents, good republicans. unify with this ticket. >> is that the right message to moderate voters? >> well, listen, i don't care any moderate voters are voting for desantis. i don't know any moderate voters who would applaud a governor who said what he did about anthony

fauci, somebody needed to chuck him over the potomac. him, rubio and scott, these are folks who aren't working for every-day people. they're bullies. we're sick and tired of the bullying right now and, you know, kudos to charlie crist to say if you got evil in your heart, if you are mean, trying to bully people, then there's no place in being a part of that coalition that's trying to bring hope to all parts of this country, particularly in florida. go for it, charlie. make sure you go out there, push back against bullies. we know what we have to do against bullies. we have to stand up to them. desantis is one of the biggest bullies in this country and he's going to go down in november. >> jamie harrison, thank you for your time. we have breaking news we want to get to on the search warrant affidavit from the mar-a-lago search. nbc news investigative

correspondent tom winter is here. what do you got? >> the judge overseeing the case in the search warrant involving former president trump's property in palm beach, mar-a-lago has agreed with news organizations, including nbc news, that parts of the search warrant affidavit, the underlying probable cause, the reason why the fbi was allowed to go in and search the premises, should be unsealed and it should be unsealed by tomorrow at or before noon. the judge says that he's reviewed the department of justice's proposed redactions, finds that they are narrow enough that they meet the specific criteria that he would need to see, that it would protect sources and methods, witness names and also protect certain grand jury information under federal rules of criminal procedure 6-e that has to do with grand jury secrecy. those things will be redacted. there will be certain parts of that search warrant affidavit that we won't be able to see. how much of that we just don't know at this point.

we do know that tomorrow, by noon, the department of justice is to file that redacted version publicly on the docket. it could happen at any time between now and then. at that point we should be able to glean a little bit more information potentially about what this search warrant was all about and what specific violations of law, again, potentially, because we don't know what's been redacted here and what's going to be unredacted, but we should have a little bit more information as to what this was all about. >> so tom, given your initial read of this order to unseal, which i have here, does this maybe make you think we might see a little bit more than we initially thought we would? >> yeah, i think so. look, it's a quick two-page ruling from the judge, bruce reinhart, the magistrate judge who approved this search warrant in the first place. it's likely that we will see some more information, perhaps some background information, perhaps a better timeline here. that information should be

public. so the back and forth between former president trump's attorneys, the justice department, some of which has been reported out by this news organization and others over the course of the past several days and the last two weeks or so, all of that i would suspect would become public. information as far as what was communicated involving the attorneys, yes, that should come out. i think there should be some other things that would be made public, potentially here, as far as the approval of the search warrant, when it was actually filed, so some additional details. how much beyond that as to the specific investigation and whether or not there's another component to it as far as was there any sort of malfeasance conducted by others, was there any sort of information or any sort of potential violations by former president trump, it's just not clear to me whether or not we'll see that.

no doubt, a victory for the interveners in this case, which is nbc news, a number of our competitors, and a number of the major national newspaper outlets. >> ken is back along with andrew, an msnbc legal analyst. we heard tom winter lay out the significance here. what's your read as well? >> looks like it's a very narrowly tailored order that essentially upholds most of the government's reasons for wanting to seal this, for all the reasons we've been talking about, the sensitivity of the investigation, identity of witnesses, but that there is some sliver of information that the judge believes can be made public and so there will be a filing by noon tomorrow. yes. the judge is saying that he finds that government has met its burden of showing its proposed redactions are narrowly

tailored to serve the integrity of the ongoing investigation. we've been talking about the three scenarios all day. looks like a scenario where the judge and justice department agree on a set of proposed redactions and that they've decided that some part of this can be released is the scenario that is coming to pass. >> we're all still reading it as well. andrew, want to ask you some of the same questions we just asked you at the top of the hour, just a mere 40 minutes ago and how things might change now with this order to unseal. what we might be able to clean from this affidavit by noon tomorrow? >> so i agree with tom. i mean, it really looks like the -- that we're going to get something. depending on what it is, there are two sides to this debate, and so either of them can appeal to the district judge. remember this is being decided by a magistrate judge who is sort of a lesser judge, who can

be appealed to the district court. then it can go to the court of appeals, which is extremely unlikely. depending on what is redacted, the press could be appealing, the department of justice could be appealing, or neither. i suspect that, given the speed with which the judge ruled, that there isn't a lot of difference between the court and the department of justice, in other words that he is accepting what they're proposing, what remains to be seen is whether the department took a very aggressive view or whether they decided that a lot of the sort of back and forth is leading up to the search warrant is something they agreed to be unsealed. you could have both sides appealing. i strongly suspect that there

wouldn't be an appeal to the district judge, even -- because i think it's probably not the kind of thing that a district judge is going to want to second-guess here. and then that's really it. i think all eyes are going to turn to what goes on in the criminal investigation and what happens with the former president's civil suit, which is right now at least for now, in front of a different judge in florida. >> so andrew, obviously this group lives and breathes this all day every day since this has happened. the nuances and every last development, but for the average person who maybe isn't following this court filing and that court filing, can you boil it down for us what the average person might learn or glean from this affidavit when we do, in fact, get eyes on it? >> yeah. that's a good question. so, you know, i think one question that people have is, what was the proof?

what was the evidence that led the department of justice and then a court to believe that there was evidence of a crime at mar-a-lago? that is highly unlikely to be unredacted and revealed tomorrow. that is because there's an ongoing criminal case. there's concern about national security and concern about witnesses. it would be extremely unusual in a criminal case for that information to be revealed at this stage. the second thing that i think is much more likely to be answered for sort of average citizen who is not a lawyer and doesn't live and breathe this stuff, is why a search warrant? what led the department of justice to need to proceed by a search warrant and you clearly have the former president and many republican leaders raising that same issue, maybe not as politely as we're talking about it now, and i think may be snag

we get some more clarity. the different steps the department of justice took and the national archives took to try to retrieve top secret, compartmented information, that had no business being outside of the scif in the custody of the government. i think that question is one where i think public by noon tomorrow should, i think, have more information to make a judgment. >> tom winter, final thoughts. >> final thought or final question to andrew weissmann, two potential areas that stick out to me, one, there is anything that would prohibit or would there be any reason why any communications between the justice department, the fbi, the national archives and trump attorneys any reason we wouldn't see that tomorrow? that's number one. number two, we're all talking about a noon deadline tomorrow because that's what judge has

set, but since he's agreed with the department of justice, is there any reason we won't see this in the next few minutes, for instance? >> well, the latter question, i assume that the judge set that time frame because of some need or necessity and maybe he's going to write something, but it is possible that it could be sooner, so i think that's the answer to that. on the issue of the sort of back and forth with counsel and the national archive, i could see if the department was being aggressive why they would redact some information there. for instance, if they thought that they -- if the department of justice thought they were lied to by either donald trump or representatives of donald trump, the names and the exact statements are something that may very well be under investigation and so they may

want to redact pieces of that. now, we all have some idea of what happened, but, you know, very may have a lot more information than we do, including, for instance, the precise conversations with the national security division at the department of justice, the precise conversations with the national archives and who made them, so i could see the department of justice potentially saying you know what, this precise content and who said it is off limits. >> all right. tom, ken, andrew, really robust discussion. thank you to all of you. lots more news ahead. vladimir putin beefing up the russian military. what that means for the war in ukraine. next. like many families, the auburns value time spent together. to share wisdom... i got some of my gold before i came to this country. i got some of my gold before you passed the bread. encourage one another... i can buy gold for this?!

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ordering another 137,000 to join its forces which will bring the total number of troops in russia's military to more than 2 million. in ukraine the country's biggest nuclear power plant was cut off from the power grid today for the first time ever according t the first time ever according to ukraine's energy committee, and renewing fears of a potential nuclear disaster. it all comes as president zelenskyy and president biden spoke by phone today. zelenskyy said they talked about ukraine's path to victory and holding russia accountable for war crimes. nbc's josh letterman is in kyiv. what's the latest on the ground? >> lindsay, we heard tonight from president zelenskyy sounding the alarm after that cutoff of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant from ukraine's grid for the first time in history. the entire region lost power and what appears to have happened is there are four electric transmission lines to the

zaporizhzhia plant. three of them had been damaged earlier in this war. there was fire today that apparently damaged the last remaining line. now, it has been brought back online, but for a period there, diesel generators were activated and the plant also had to rely on another nearby fossil fuel power plant that has its own connection to the nuclear planted, but the fear here is if that nuclear plant loses external power, it becomes very hard to continue to power the cooling systems there that keep the nuclear reactors from melting down and causing a nuclear catastrophe, and so this is a huge source of concern as the iaea, the nuclear energy agency tries to get inspectors on the ground there. ukraine wants those inspectors to come through ukrainian territory and the russians want them to come through russian-held territory and so far they've not been able to resolve that dispute even as

they try to get inspectors there as soon as physically possible as they try to bring this situation under control. in the meantime, amid the signs that russia's offensive here has stalled and we heard from president putin signing that decree today ordering another 137,000 troops to be added to russia's military and he didn't specify if that has anything to do with ukraine and the war in ukraine is the major military action that russia is engaged in right now and russia trying to replenish forces as it has what it needs to continue a war that at this point sees no end in sight, lindsay. >> josh letterman, thank you so much for that update. mixed reaction today to president biden's student debt decision announcing his plan to forgive $10,000 of student loan debt for millions of americans and 20,000 for pell grant recipients. >> i want to bring in tremaine lee at one of the biggest hbcus.

what are you hearing from students? >> talking to students here, the news of biden's student loan forgiveness was met kind of mixed. on the one hand, is it enough? a on the other hand, these students know too well, 90% of black students have that debt, they have an average of $25,000 more than their white counterparts. still, with all that being considered, it's not just about them and their debt and it's the generation before them who are getting help for them getting them through right now. >> i think that's a great thing and i want her to be forgiven because certain things you can't do with student loans, i feel that's a great thing and i do have debt and it's want as much as everyone else, but if it's cleared it's going to help me out a lot.

>> that idea that that burden could be off of their shoulders and as they move into a world with so much chaos and controversy, and everything is swirling around them that that student loan will be one last thing they have to worry about and it's a breath of fresh air and even for those who are beginning their academic careers in college. >> trymaine lee, thank you very much for bringing us that reporting. there's new reporting out today on the private call between the rnc chair and major republican donors. in the 36-minute recording obtained by politico rhonda mcdaniel was heard for asking for one thing, help, asking donors to give to senate candidates ahead of the midterms to better their chances of gaining control of the chamber. democrats have been outraising gop candidates by more than $50 million. republicans have better candidates and a better message, but they just, quote, need financial fire power to drive

our effort. political reporter alex isenstadt is here, what stood out to you? >> what's interesting is mcdaniel was speaking on pretty unvarnished terms and said that democrats have had a huge influx of cash since the roe v. wade decision, and she also said that a lot of republican small donors had been hard hit by the economy and so republicans needed some of their big donors to step up if they wanted to win control of the senate and of course, this comes at a time when there's a lot of folks out there saying that the republican chances of winning the senate have diminished in recent weeks. >> i found it interesting in your reporting that newt gingrich was on the call and was asked by one of these donors, that mitch mcconnell was more likely that they would take over the senate and do you think merrill lynch regretted saying that? >> gingrich said he didn't find the comment to be useful, but he said that, look, mcconnell has

been burned in the past by past republican candidates who were not up to snuff. gingrich specifically pointed to christine o'donnell of the i'm not a witch fame. some of your viewers may remember and so, look, gingrich had some -- was a little bit critical of what mcconnell said there and that was interesting to hear him say that. >> interesting scoop there. alex isenstadt, thanks so much. i will see you tomorrow at 3 3:00 p.m. noon pacific. "deadline: white house" starts after this quick break. " starts after this quick break ♪ ♪ finding the perfect developer isn't easy. but, at upwork, we found her. she's in prague between the ideal cup of coffee and a truly impressive synthesizer collection. and you can find her right now

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