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had. >> tonight on the reidout -- >> when the supreme court ripped away reproductive freedoms, access to abortion rights, we said this is not what america stands for. >> abortion rights is proving to be potent issue for krapts. republicans are in a near pan wick a surge in voter registrations by women in key states. also, the judge oversaeg the mar-a-lago investigation ordered a redacted version of the affidavit before noon tomorrow. so any time now. we begin the reidout with the year of the woman. the catchy label attached to the political year 1992. when a record number of women were elected to the u.s. senate. the election followed the infamous 1991 senate confirmation hearing of supreme
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court nominee clarence thomas. televised hearings that featured blockbuster testimony from professor anita hill who detailed allegations of workplace sexual harassment by judge thomas who was her supervisor at two government agencies. >> after approximately three months of working there, he asked me to go out socially with him. what happened next and tlling the world about it are the two most difficult experiences of my life. but when i was asked by a representative of this committee to report my experience, i felt that i had to tell the truth. >> the hearing sparked a national debate about sexual harassment and a time when such harassment went largely ignored and unpunished. it also brought attention to a troubling dynamic, the senate
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judiciary committee led by then senator joe biden was composed solely of old white guys. sharply and sometimes rudely questioning a black law professor about what happened to her. no women serve on that committee in 1991. well, that was about to change. the historic 1992 election saw women winning seats in historic numbers. one of them was carol moseley brawn, first black woman to serve in the u.s. senate. she joined biden's judiciary committee the following year. another was patty murray of wash whoosh said we got into the u.s. senate because we were mad. anger was undeniable again in 2018. when a surge of women candidates ran for office and won. these games partially fueled by anger was a rebuke to men in power like donald trump and brett kavanaugh. and here's the thing. that rage has not gone away. and with the supreme court decision to toss women's
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individual rights into the dust bin, it's no longer simmering or unseen. the dam has burst. roe broke the dam. and women's utter rage is now a central motivator for this year's midterm elections. women's rights and autonomy are primary themes in our national discourse. once again, clarence thomas plays a role as part of the supreme court majority that overturned roe. we're seeing the results of that anger in kansas and in a bellwether house district in new york's hudson valley. democrat pat ryan won the special election for the state's 19th congressional district. here's what the congressman elect had to say on what gal vannize -- galvanized voters. >> there was a woman in myrrh mid, late 60s just bawling, bawling, crying. and we stopped and she just total disbelief and said i can
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not believe we are doing this again. and it was just so clear that that decision to rip away a fundamental right and freedom had just struck such a nerve that i think even transcends the very partisan dynamics in our country right now. >> joining me now is erin hanes of the 19th. president and ceo of whole women's health and political analyst matthew dowd, the chief strategist for the bush-cheney campaign. i have to go to you first, erin. look, i mean angry women make history. you talk about whether it's abolitionists or whether it is the sufferage and the black women that fought to get in the game on the anger of women has moved amendments to the floor. what do you make of the anger that you're seeing out there, you're out there as a journalist covering these campaigns? you are seeing the level of
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anger that you think could change history? >> joy, what an apt framing for the conversation on the eve of equipment's equality day where we celebrate the ratification of the 19th amendment for which my organization is named. women have been on the front lines of democracy and been on the main people that are pushing for the expanded rights not just for women but for everybody. in our democracy and society. i'm somebody, i hate to say i told you so, but i said women will be the deciders of the election. honestly, can you say that every year. women are more than half of the electorate wlchlt we're talking about 1992 like you said, 2018, or 2022, it's going to be the case. i'll say it again this year. and when you see polls that talk about democrats closing the enthusiasm gap headed into november, we have to acknowledge that women are a large chunk.
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that's why you see this voter registration going under threat. i don't want to leave men out of this. we're seeing abortion is on the ballot and not just as wam's issue. you saw pat ryan talk about that out of new york. the administration is framing this as an issue of freedom and men are running for office and also taking up that message. charlie crist in florida, bait yoe o'rourke in texas, women candidates are talking about their experience. this is rising as an issue for voters and coupled with democracy as an emerging priority, we can see a potent combination for democrats depending on the momentum heading into the next 57 days. >> i'm with you. i would watch the analyst, you know, pundits on tv saying you know historically, the president's party is going to lose x number of seats. did y'all not see roe versus wade go away? that is the big x factor in this
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election. back in the day i used to interview, you know, have the conversation across the aisle, republican very conservative, right? republicans who really, really, really wanted roe overturned. they were generally not political people. they were religious people. when i talk to political folks and my friends now that are republicans, they always said oh, no we want the issue. we don't want to overturn it. because if we overturn it, all hell is going to break loose. you look at pat ryan. he tried to flip the whole he tloection go about things line inflation and crime. it didn't work. nothing will work when focus women on the idea they have no rights. how did republicans think it was a good idea to not have the issue but do the thing? >> i think you touched on it. the thing that happened with the republican party is there is no division between the people that are pushing religion and the people that are pushing politics. for the republican party, it is
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one. this is white christian nationalism that has completely occupied the republican party in america. that is out of step with the majority of america. and that led them to do what they have done, that obviously lead the people on the supreme court who many of them are white christian nationalists on the supreme court today put there by donald trump. but the compounding factor in this was not only that roe versus wade-dobbs decision but was the actions of republicans and every state to take it even further, to make it even worse. it's not just like oh, okay we're going to do restrictions and things around the end and we'll do late term -- we'll stop late term abortions. they're stopping in many states, majority of states where republicans hold power. the ability to have abortion through the entire pregnancy. including rape, incest and health of the mother. i think what happened is all of the stories are getting told. it's not only a big mammoth issue, it's story after story after story that personalizes
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the issue. and the other thing i would say in elections that many times people make the mistake of is you don't poll to find out what the most important issue for you to talk about. what you should do is talk about the most important issue and make the issue even if it's a third place issue, fourth place issue. everybody thought as of 30 days ago it's inflation and the economy. i kept saying that what you do as a leader is tell the voters what the election is about. and what the supreme court did unfortunately for republicans is tell both women and men this is what the election is about. >> that's right. and clarence thomas, clarence thomas took it further and said by the way, i have a whole long list of other rights i want to take away except interracial marriage because that's personal for me. let's go on what is happening. in texas right now, abortion is completely illegal from the moment of conception. texans who perform abortions face up to life in prison.
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$100,000 fine, performing abortion is a felony. it's now a felony. that is because of a trigger law put in place as matthew talked about by some white christian nationalists. it happened. that meant that in texas it's not easy to predict what will happen in that race. women have got to understand you're now state property in the state of texas. your thoughts? >> i thought about this issue. and like your guests have talked about, abortion rights are just women's rights issues. it's a human rights issue. millions of people have benefitted from access to safe abortion. what we're seeing is devastating. texas has one-tenth of this country's population of reproductive life. and they're being denied not only access to safe abortion but going even further. they're not satisfied just banning abortion. i think we have to remember this is about power. it's about stomping on equality and 5:00 sets to freedom.
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and we're seeing people presenting in hospitals in texas for miscarriages, for being denied care, who are being forced to wait up to nine days the recent study showed even for treatment for miscarriage. they're basically waiting for the woman to start dying or waiting until there is no cardiac activity in the fetus before they step in to help. why? because they're afraid of criminalization. they're afraid, they're intimidated. there are threats from people like paxton. this is a public health issue and much broader than many people thought about. access to safe abortion isn't just a democrat issue. republicans have abortions as well. >> that's right. >> and i think we have to realize what is happening here has lit a fire under people. look at kansas. the majority are not democrats and they stood very forth and strong saying that access is a human right for everyone in this country and people are furious and i hope it helps things like
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get beto elected. i hope it helps people get access restored and we go further than roe ever did to give people access to safe abortion no matter where they live in this country. >> well, i mean one of the most potent issues, erin, ever in american politics and i worked in campaigns before i did this gig here or in between, is issue of freedom. the issue of personal freedom is always a powerful motivator for whether you're republican or democrat or liberal or conservative n kansas to the point that amy is making, in arizona, i'm sorry, blake masters has now taken his anti-abortion stuff off his website. his campaign used to say he was against contraception. he wanted that to be illegal. he pulled that off the website. he's pulled off the stuff about fetal personhood law. but people are going to know that's what he was for in kansas. a week after the court's decision, more than 70%, 70% of the newly registered voters in kansas were women. that is not the normal way
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things go. 70%. this is an election that it's not just women but women are driving it and i also have to say local news is driving it. you are from georgia. i am assuming that in georgia on the local news those stories that amy just told, that's where they're showing up. >> you're right. i will tell you, you have stacy abrams running in georgia talking about her own evolution as she came to be somebody who supports abortion rights even though she had personal religious views that went against that for much of her life. but she is sharing her story in the hopes of really casting this as an issue of freedom, liberty, and really access to health care. having that conversation and not making this really about the kind of religious stakes of this that anti-abortion folks have tried to make this about for so
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many years. and really framing it as an issue of health care and freedom and economic issue, right? knowing the impact that this has on people's lives. they don't have access to reproductive rights. framing it in all the ways that abortion is relevant conversation in the last people in our country. i think is what is resonating with people and why you're seeing voter registration surging by as much as 35% in some of these states with women. 9% with men, by the way. and, you know, to your point what you were talking to amy about, we have a story on our site today on 19th news. it says by the end of the week 12 states will have outlawed abortion in almost all instances. this regional abortion desert is going to expand further, idaho, oklahoma, tennessee and texas as to have day enforcing near total bans. as you see the trigger laws rolling out, continuing to rollout across the country, this is the post -- that many
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abortion rights advocates and many women fear. >> matt, also you got a problem that republicans don't know when to shut up. you already had mitch mcconnell admit they would consider a national abortion ban. everybody knows this court would uphold a national abortion ban. they know that is coming. he wants a national ban on contraception. is the challenge here that republicans have a toothpaste full of -- the toothpaste is out of the tube. everyone knows what they want to do. everyone knows how far they want to go. there is no way they can take it back. >> no. and the stink and the stench of this is going to stick to them. i don't care how many web sites they erase or how many times they try to adjust their position. this is a stench that is going to stay on them. it takes this issue from a policy issue to one of those issues that is a gut issue. this is a gut issue. gut issue for women. it's made them passionate. a gut issue for men who have daughters, mothers, sisters, who are watching and who stand in support of the dignity of women and their freedom to makethese
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choices. what republicans have done is an mazing situation. they not only got this decision which forced this issue, but they made it worse every single step of the way. they said we can do whatever we want and talk about inflation and economy and it doesn't matter. the voters woke up and said, no. you can't run over our constitution and talk about the price of milk. >> that's correct. that's absolutely right. i don't know who told them a lie to them and thought this was going to be good politics. it's terrible politics and not just with democrats. republicans also have daughters and wives and i heard even republican donors are saying don't you put that check in the mail. thank you very much. next on "the reidout," the release of the mar-a-lago search affidavit could come at any moment. latest developments are next. moment latest developments are next
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by none team, a redacted version of the affidavit requesting the search of donald trump's home will be made public. that was the ruling today from the u.s. magistrate judge. based on my independent review of the affidavit, i further find that the government has met its burden of showing that its
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proposed redactions are narrowly taylored to serve the government's interest and the integrity of the on going investigation and are the least onerous alternative to sealing the entire affidavit. it's unknown how much of the affidavit we're going to see. during last week's court hearing, the doj said anything short of a heavily redacted version could harm the investigation. there is a investigation swiftly emerged as major threat to mr. trump whose lawyers have offered a confused and at times stumbling response. but it's also an inflection point for merrick garland who is trying to balance the prosecutor process by keeping secret details of the investigation and providing enough information to defend his decision to request a search unlike any in u.s.
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history. trump was lashing out on his pretend version of twitter saying he is innocent as he can be. joining me is hugo lowell for the guardian. hugo, let me go to you first on just the reporting on this. trump didn't -- his lawyers didn't really weigh in on these redactions. and i wonder if that has any meaning here and if there's any way we can get information on what they may know about how bad this release could be. >> well, the sense i get talking to people in trump world is they really don't know what doj is doing. i think that is something that really frightens them. talking to trump's legal team and advisors, they are as much in the dark as we are about what's in the affidavit. the but one thing is clear, right. this affidavit contains the probable cause that the justice department identified needed to
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get that search warrant. and that i think, you know, could be quite potentially explosive even if we don't get the details about the sources and methods that justice department is using in this criminal investigation which we should say is in the early stages. we might get the full rundown of how the doj had to take such extraordinary steps to recover from trump secrets he stashed away at mar-a-lago. >> maia, just from a lawyer's point of view, the confident that you see coming out of the dcht oj, the confident you see coming out of the fbi, this judge, it all seems to me to mean as a lay person well they have something solid. they didn't just go willy-nilly into this man's house. >> oh, yeah. i mean let's remember this is historic. you tell me the last time we had a president, former president for whom an attorney general said okay, we have enough
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evidence to go to an independent judge and say we have reason to believe that a crime may have been committed and we need to search. i mean that's what this represents. and i think, you know, one of the things we have to remember about this warrant not only did a judge who is not partisan, independent and whose job is putting his name on the line on something historic, he's going to do that carefully. but also saying unusually i'm going make sure the public can see as much as possible without damaging the investigation to try to make that clear to the public. there's nothing, frankly, good in this affidavit for donald trump. if there was anything good in it, let's face it, there wouldn't have been a search warrant. >> that's real. >> so all i can say is of course they're worried and not fighting about the redactions because
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there is no way they can help them if it's going to be public. thats why we saw that really silly and unusual and nonsensical request to have a special master look at the documents. didn't make any sense. let me tell you one other thing. i'll tell you how they get the answer to their question. if he's indicted. >> well that would definitely -- hugo, you know, donald trump spent, you know, the period in between the two weeks ago when the raid or the search took place and today doing a lot of things. a lot of whatever you call what you do on his fake twitter, fake version of twitter. but he hasn't done is gone on television. he hasn't done a television interview. he hasn't been on fox. it's been interesting to see who has not come forward to defend him. william barr who essentially lied to the american people to defend him against the mueller probe, pretended they considered whether there were charge that's could be filed and then said there weren't and there was never a consideration of that. we know what william barr is.
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he ain't out there defending him. it is interesting the silence from people who in theory could be out there offering him a legal defense. what is trump world make of that? >> i think it reflects that trump world knows how serious this investigation is for trump. and i think the degree to which he has serious legal exposure. if you look at their response to january 6th investigation, they were always playing it cool thinking maybe they indict trump, maybe they don't. but this is really serious. there's been a search warrant executed on his home in florida. there is criminal statutes listed in that search warrant. i think that really shocked them, especially this thing about obstruction of justice. that is one thing they don't want to talk about. they talk about how supposedly all the documents are sense tough. they don't want to discuss the potential for obstruction of justice case and it may be mounting. i think that's a reflection of how much you don't see trump on
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the airwaves. actually the people you do see are the people like lower down in the legal team. it's not the lead lawyer. it's not the two former justice department lawyers. he has a background in insurance law. it is a lawyer from new jersey and a lawyer connected to the fake election discussions. so that i think is important. >> you can't make it up. you wish you could. you wish you were creative enough to make it up. you just can't. thank you very much. still ahead, future has arrived. his name is maxwell frost, the 25-year-old democrat is a heavy favorite to become the youngest member of congress and he joins me next. f congress and he joins me next. finding the perfect developer isn't easy. but, at upwork, we found her. she's in prague, between the perfect cup of coffee and her museum of personal computers.
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we're losing 100 people a day due to gun violence. governor, we need to take action on gun violence. >> no one wants to hear from you. >> millions are dying. governor, floridians are dying. we need help. governor desantis, we need help. we need action on gun violence. governor, please, we need your help. kids are dying. governor, we need your help.
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governor, we need your help, governor. kids are dying. >> there were several big victories in tuesday night's primary. perhaps one of the most notable was from that man right there. the confronting daniel frost. he could very well be the first genz member of congress. on the surface he may not fit the typical mold of a politician. he's just 25 years old. a part time uber driver. he hasn't finished college and never held public office. but as he told nbc's chuck todd tuesday night, frost doesn't think any of that will hold him back. >> i'm a former national directing for march for our lives, a movement that helped think about the way we think about gun violence and advocacy. i'm going to take what i learned at march for our lives and learned what i learned at the aclu and bring it to congress and keep it here in florida as we build power to ensure we can
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flip this state and bring people together behind shared values and, yes, there say young face doing that work. but that's okay. we need a diversity of yes race, yes opinion, but also age. >> joining me now is maxwell frost. as a former floridian, i'm proud of you young man. march for our lives is so important. i'm glad a member of that tribe had gotten somewhere big. and listen, tend of that clip that we showed, the governor said nobody wants to hear from you. how did you beat the more seasoned candidates? >> thanks for having me on. it has to do with our message. it has to do with our message and moment in time that we're in right now. we have to think about the context of what is going on in florida and what has been going on for this past year.
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that bully is saying it's not my fault. of it's the facility of the lgbtq plus community, at the the fault of immigrants. it's the fault of back folks. he is scapegoating the most vulnerable communities because he failed to bring the bold trance formational change that floridians need. in the midst of the don't say gay or lgbtq plus law this campaign i truly believe provided hope and a way forward. you want them to have aabortion rights. it doesn't matter if it is republican or democrat, it's people versus the problem. >> did you talk to val demings? you would succeed val dammings, the seasoned politician sheriff. she's the police. she's done all these different things. have you talked to her about what it's like in congress? what the life is like?
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>> yes, my first meeting with her months back, we spoke about what it's like in congress and work across the aisle and within the party to get things done. the she gave me a call the night of my victory. i told her put me to work. we need her in the u.s. senate. we need charlie crist to replace ron desantis. we need all eyes here on florida. we need to stop ron desantis. he is looking to run for president. he's not interested in governing. much that's why this election is so important. we need people to put resources here in florida. put their time here in florida so we can build power. we're a state full of millions of working class families. >> miami is one of the poorest cities in the state. he already went after disney and stripped them of their tax benefits which is a huge tax increase for what would be your constituents. but here he is going after anthony fauci and one of the most weird and odd and vicious
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ways i've seen ever. take a look. >> you have people like fauci saying that his lock youbs didn't cause any permanent damage to any young kids. >> we're going to repeat the rewards across the whole country for years because they treated kids so poorly. and i'm just sick of seeing them. i know he says he's going to retire. someone needs to grab that little elf and chuck him across the stage. >> i'm sure he's about 5'7." i'm not sure who he is calling elf. i don't know why he thinks he can talk about other people. but your thouchlts you drove an uber. that is one of the most vulnerable positions to covid. it's one of those front line position that's was vulnerable. >> a guy scapegoating someone else because he failed to keep
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floridians safe from covid. he failed to do meaningful things on monkeypox. he is someone who has been kind of a backseat driver on a lot of the issues and not being the leader we need. it's interesting he brings up protecting children. about what about the children he is casting out and wanting to erase with don't say gay bill? what about the children dying from gun violence a generation that has been through more mass shooting drills than fire drills. you know? what about those children? the leading cause of death went from automobile accidents to guns. and so it's hypocrisy and broad daylight and the people will see through it. that's why we're going to put him on blast. we're going to make sure everyone knows the liar he is. but aside from that, it's not just about telling people about how bad he is, it's about giving people something to vote for not just against. it's about this agenda that is about everything and everyone. >> yeah, between him and rick scott who is tweeting from a yacht about people not deserving to have student loan relief, last thing i'll put up for our
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audience. this is a chart i want to show you. if you would be in that top little small chart where there is almost no people. why do you think it's important for young people to do what you're doing and get involved in politics? >> well, it's important that we have government and congress that looks like a country with different experience ands different ages. you know, my generation is just going through some different challenges than older folks did when they were younger. and that's okay. right? we need a congress that has older people, younger people, everybody. so when we come to the table to talk about student debt relief, guess what? there is a younger voice there who understands the challenges now, the crushing debt that happens to our students traditionally. black and brown folks. people who look like me. and bringing that perspective to the table. imagine how government would work if they had more survivors
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of gun violence. >> amen. >> people that have debt and have people who uber to pay their bills and do things like that. right? we need more working class people in government and can bring that perspective and outside of d.c., i'm going to be committed to building power and building a government that looks like the country. >> the young, afro-latino smashgts, hard-working, representing in terms of trying to solve gun violence. you are an impressive young man. i hope i can hang out with you when i come to florida. we want to do shows out in florida. i'm going to check you out. >> please come down. >> thank you so much. >> cool. >> thank you. maxwell frost. he is a star. coming up, still to come on "the reidout," dark money on steroids. piles of cash. the biggest donation of its kind in american history going to the man whose influence on the far right shaped the conservative supreme court. that can be taking away our rights. stay right there. finding the per isn't easy. but, at upwork, we found her. she's in austin between a fresh bowl of matcha
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have not heard republicans screaming about this week, with far darker implications for our democracy. the new york times reported a 1.6 billion dollar donation, funneled to a right-wing political group, last year, through a little known donor. and electronics mogul named
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barr side. the beneficiary is a new group controlled by letter day leo. it may not be immediately filled here to you, but his imprint is all over the politics and a good reason why they are broken. leo is known for his work as vice present for the conservative legal organization, the federalist society, is a pipeline to the supreme court. in fact, the christian theocratic and right-wing majority on the court was handpicked by leonard leo. it was a list of political justices that presidents, donald trump, do drew from. as the outlet, the lever notes, even in this money drenched world, sides of 1.6 billion-dollar gift exceeds all publicly known one-time donations to a politically oriented group. the insidious part isn't just a whopping some, it's that the donor, and leonard leo's new trust got away with it, without paying a dime in taxes. joining us now, senator sheldon whitehouse from rhode island.
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my favorite person to talk to about this. how on earth, senator, are the rules are written in such a way that there is a, clearly, political organization that can be tax free? >> two things. it was given as insurance to the company, before the sale, and it was to capital gain in the appreciation. they went to a 501 c organization. that has been able to avoid federal taxes. our calculation is that this is about a 400 million dollar tax benefit to support right-wing money operations. they were talking about $10, 000, and they got away with 400 million.
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>> i think for the average american, when they think of government, this is the thing that makes them hate government. the idea that people in congress get ppp loans, like marjorie taylor greene, get a six figure sum, and not have to pay it back? then, complained that he's someone is going to get ten, or 20,000 forgiven, which is a pittance to them. then, a guy like this, purchases a supreme court. you have made this point many times. they don't just go after women's rights. they don't just go after things like roe. they are fixing the system, permanently, like mr. side permanently, and untouchable-y rich. >> correct. this fellow, leonard leo is the recipient of huge, political flush fund, and is the operator of a whole network of front groups, many of which are, also, tax-exempt.
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under fictitious names, under corporate law, and the central pair of the groups. six like sticking off of it, a total of eight groups in that central operation, which has three separate operations that he's associated with, but draws money through. it is a traditional crisis network, which funds ads against garland, for gorsuch, for kavanaugh, for merit. this 1.6 billion, we will see it disappear into this complicated network of front groups, they front out, coming out under other names. i'm making it up but, road islanders for peace and prosperity. it will disappear into this dark money red network of the right-wing, and be on our tv screens by november. >> this guy side is a piece of this.
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this guy side has given money, and the heartland institute, was a climate denying think tank, and it was big oil, big coal, and from any regulation, protecting rich people from taxation. is there anything that they want to see? >> they want voter suppression. they captured the supreme court, they want climate denial, they want deregulation. there are polluters, with the reinforcement with them. they want, basically, a very, old school business, really bad business array of changes for super wealthy businesses, and billionaires. leonard leo is long the awkward of billionaires, and
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billionaire special interests, and they spent a long time capturing the courts to deliver these. >> what they want is an oligarch, which is what you just described. >> the supreme court will give them things that congress will give them, and it was even with republicans, that even if elected republicans won't do. like take away abortion rights, like make dark money the law of the land. these are the things that are counted on, and for the supreme court to do, and spent millions of dollars capturing the supreme court. it's a real operation, and they just got 1.6 billion more dollars. >> what can we do? >> expose it. some light is the best disinfectant, voting on the disclosed bill, and they're digging into it, and making sure that people know, this is not just conservative versus
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progressive. this is a group of self interested millionaire, how to control the country, and so they can pollute at will, so they don't have to pay any taxes, so that can operate without regulation. >> this is a nightmare future, ladies and gentlemen. these people have been trying to build for generations. you've seen these stories about the 1930s, and this goes all the way back. sheldon, thank you so much, i always appreciate you. that is tonight's read out, all in with chris say, starting right now. rtin right now. tonight, on all in. a redacted version of the mar-a-lago affidavit will be released as the twice impeached ex president twists. >> sources say, donald trump, himself, is even posing questions about whether or not he will be indicted. >> tonight, former mcquade on what will be unsealed, and congressman, adam schiff, on the irony of how we

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