new details and new reaction as we come on the air to that now unsealed affidavit. the document used to get a warrant to search former president trump's home in florida now out in the open. well, most of it, anyway. showing a summertime review of documents already returned to the national archives, putting this all in motion. this hour, what we're learning from the affidavit and what led to the search, including papers and documents that indicated that they contain highly sensitive u.s. intelligence and intercepts under the foreign intelligence surveillance act. our correspondents and legal experts are here standing by. also this hour, how this impacts the american political landscape. will it deter or bolden donald trump to run again for president? we're live outside of mar-a-lago. good afternoon, everybody. i'm lindsey reiser in new york. in for hallie jackson. and with me right now is nbc justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian, tom winter, chief foreign affairs

correspondent, andrea mitchell. former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official, chuck rosenberg, now an msnbc contributor. former assistant u.s. attorney and associate independent counsel for the white water investigation, kim whaley, and clint watts, now an msnbc national security analyst. so, ken, what are we learning here about the case that the doj laid out in this affidavit? >> lindsey, a couple of pig takeaways. one, the doj saying that there are multiple civilian witnesses whose identities they want to protect in this case. not one single informant or confidential source, but many, many people, and that's why they've asked for all of those names and identities to be redacted. secondly, we're learning new details about the extent of how classified some of the documents were that were found in the origin 15 boxes that were turned over by the trump folks to the archives in january. and it looks like they are some of the most classified documents you can have in the u.s. government. documents relating to

confidential human sources, who may be talking to the cia. documents related to intelligence communication intercepts by the national security agency and others. documents so sensitive that they can't be shared with our closest foreign allies. the kind of documents that might be handed to the president in the oval office during a briefing, and we know from previous reporting that president trump had a habit of putting stuff in his pocket. officials told us, he grabbed intelligence documents and they weren't sure whatever happened to them. now we're seeing that according to this warrant, those 15 boxes contained mixed in with newspapers, magazines, printed news articles, and notes and presidential correspondents, quote, a lot of classified records. lindsey. >> so, andrea, highlighting what ken there said, some of the highest-level secrets that the government has, including intelligence gathered by actual humans on the ground. what are you hearing from your sources about how seriously this is being taken in the intelligence community? >> very, very seriously in the

intelligence community, among members of congress, but republican members of the intelligence community have to be concerned when they look at this documents. because it is nothing like what the former president has been saying on social media and his lawyers as well in their public statements. it's human intelligence, spies, confidential sources, spies that we have taken in some cases decades to embed and plant and turn and make, you know, valuable assets inside foreign governments, adversarial governments, as well as signals intelligence, our most sensitive secrets about how we spy on other countries, on other people, potentially on foreign leaders. that has certainly happened in the past. and this means telling them, letting them know that we can listen in on a particular type of phone or even an encrypted message system, so they no longer use that. they won't transmit valuable intelligence. this certainly would convey a

terrible vulnerability to our closest allies with whom we share our closest secrets. and it follows up, frankly, on the way the former president behaved when he was in office, on several occasions, posting classified satellite photo of iran, revealing secrets without understanding who he was saying most likely, in the oval office to russian visitors at the highest level. he just in office already had alarmed the intelligence communities. he was very hostile from day one to the intelligence community. and criticized them, publicly said in helsinki, after seeing vladimir putin that, why would the russians lie about interfering in the 2016 election. why would he believe his own director of national intelligence dni coates when vladimir putin was saying that that hadn't happened. so why wouldn't he believe putin

over his own intelligence assessments? and it goes to that attitude that certainly alarmed people in the intelligence community when they found out the national archives had gotten all of this stuff back in january, and then were negotiating and asking, asking nicely, meeting with lawyers, going to mar-a-lago, then in june with a search warrant on rather with a subpoena, and it was only then after still not getting back all of the stuff, that they went to the judge and asked for a search warrant. what it does is it really debunks the argument that they were cooperating, the argument that the trump people have made that they were cooperating all along. that they should have just asked and he would have turned it over. why do they have to invade his house, as he says. why did they have to break into his safe. it makes it very clear to anyone who looks at this closely, lindsey, the intelligence community, the fbi, the justice department leaned over backwards to get this stuff back where it

was safe and this is the kind of information that presidents look at, you know, in secure rooms or in the oval office with a military aid and turn it back to the military aid. it's not what you take home. >> andrea mitchell, thanks so much for joining us on that. tom, andrea had spelled out what this means in terms of informants, but what did the documents that they had already gotten back tell us about there possibly being more at mar-a-lago? >> i think that's the important thing to remember. we're talking about a group of boxes that contained information, ken laid out the types of information that was in it. andrea talked about the ramifications of that type of information, as it pertains to the intelligence community. but when you look at the totality of what they have already received, then they say in the search warrant, we have reason to believe that there's more of this at mar-a-lago, and by the way, there's not an adequate place for restoring it there with the popper security for something like this. and we could -- we do believe that there might be evidence of

obstruction that we might uncover in the course of this search warrant. so a couple of key things to keep in mind. it's not -- the information we're talking about is not what we found when they went in a couple of weeks ago in early august, on august 8th, it's about what they already had, and they believed that there was more. and i think that's an important thing for us to remember, as it pertains to not only the former president's statements, but where this investigation goes from here. and of course, we heard last week in a hearing that led up to these documents being unsealed in part today, a redacted copy is what we received. the justice department said, look, we're in the earlier stages of this investigation. i think that's an important thing to keep in mind. one, they already have a lot of evidence that there were classified documents there. as ken pointed out, haphazardly included with newspaper clippings, memos, magazine clippings, as andrea pointed out, sensitive intelligence information, now from an investigative standpoint, they

look at this and say, they believe that there was more. we know the types of boxes they pulled out, and on top of that, they thought there was evidence of obstruction. clearly they're building up to something, but what specifically that is and who specifically could be ultimately responsible or liable from a criminal standpoint is just something that we don't know from these documents and it's not something that we've been able to report out yet. >> chuck, we've covered a lot of ground already, but what stands out most to you and what we've learned since that affidavit was released. >> interestingly, in some ways, the affidavit is what we expected. that we would see the procedural history of the case, but we wouldn't really see anything that pertained to the probable cause statement. the rationale, the reason, the basis for the agents being granted a warrant to search the home. what i found interesting was actually the memo that the department of justice filed with the affidavit. i mean, it tells you that they have a serious ongoing

investigation and they're trying to do a bunch of things. they're trying to abide the law that requires them to keep secret grand jury information. that's a requirement. they're trying to protect witnesses from retaliation or harm. they're trying to protect their law enforcement officers. we saw what happened at an fbi field division in ohio. and they're also trying to protect the privacy interests of folks who haven't been charged, or who may never be charged, to tom's point. we don't know who those people are and what will happen to them, but right now, they're uncharged and we ought to protect their privacy. and of course, they're also trying, lindsey, to protect their investigation. the sources that they've used, the techniques they've used, the investigative methods that they've used. remember, we may at the end of the day have nobody charged. all we know from a search warrant really is that there's probable cause to believe that a crime has been committedp and you're going to find evidence of it in the place that you've asked to search. it doesn't tell you who the

subjects are. it doesn't tell you whether or not anyone will be charged with a federal crime. it tells you that you have a serious ongoing investigation and the government was absolutely appropriate to redact the most sensitive information in the affidavit. >> clint, many of our guests in this panel have already underscored how important it is to keep these documents secure, because they contain some of the highest-level secrets of our government. but how serious to you is it that this information was just sitting at mar-a-lago? >> i think it's pretty serious. and there's two dimensions to this. one, it's nearly every type of intelligence that gets gathered by the u.s. government, was contained in these tranches, essentially, of documents that were down in mar-a-lago. this is human intelligence, it signals intelligence, foreign intelligence from the fisa act, and essentially, this is technical or likely technical recordings that are coming in from overseas. could have to do with warrant

intelligence there. separately, why keep portions of the documents, but return some? it tells me that there's some sort of a triaging process about what the former president was going to allow to go back into the government. there's no reason not to return all of it at once. why keep some of it? separately, it's very clear, i think, from the affidavit that they were worried that it was not under proper security. that it was not under watch. they didn't know who could access it or when they could access it. and i like to remind everybody, this is the era of cell phones. most, if not all of this documentation and particularly anything that's secret, top-secret, or sci, you would never have someone with a cell phone in and around those documents. i would imagine in a place like mar-a-lago, where you have guests, where you have visitors, where you have everybody in an unclassified environment with cell phones, there's got to be great concern that all of these documents that have been taken down there now, which were unguarded and unsupervised, that

there have been duplicates made, that have been tribed, this would be a grave concern to the government. the agent that wrote the affidavit says, this is one of the reasons, we know we have to get these things back as soon as possible. >> the affidavit also includes details of a letter that trump's lawyer sent to a member of the justice department, basically asking the doj to consider the former president's authority to declassify documents as absolute. what does that tell you about the former president's legal team's strategy here? >> well, the timing of it certainly tells me that the lawyers understood that there was a serious problem with donald trump continuing to hang on to documents that were classified. that letter came prior to the search. and these documents did not belong to donald trump. he did not have a security clearance. it was not in a secure facility, there's not a lot of othersidism

when it comes to the defense for having this information in mar-a-lago. as far as declassifying, i know that's floating around, but just as a matter of logic, and i don't have the insider expertise as some of our other panelists, but once something's declassified, it's marked that way, so the danger isn't out there. so someone doesn't inadvertently share it. his argument that, you know, he was president, but he's not president, he kind of talks out of both sides of his mouth and says that he can't be prosecuted, but he can be prosecuted. you know, we are going to hear a lot of this kind of distortion and gaslighting in the kind of public square when it comes to defenses to this. but rest assured, i agree with others that the doj is doing its job properly and we have a federal judge on the watch and the rule of law will prevail. the big question in my mind, as others have said is how damaged is the united states in this moment? has the doj been able to stop

the bleeding or is there a serious outstanding national security concerns? and then we can get to the question of whether the justice system is going to hold people accountable, including potentially these lawyers in some regard, because there should be accountability. otherwise, we are going to see, in the future, nonstop unlimited wrongdoing in the white house, because there's so much power in that office. >> chuck, i want to ask you about another detail that the affidavit also notes. the documents contain handwritten notes, presumed to be from trump. if he's interacting with these documents before they were brought back to mar-a-lago, what does that do to a possible defense? >> that's interesting. at least it tells you that he handled them, if in fact it's his handwriting. sometimes you can get fingerprints off of documents. i don't know if the fbi is going to do that or not. it's also possible that they just wanted their stuff back to clint's point and that nobody in the end gets prosecuted for

mishandling. i don't know how that's going to turn out. but i did note that and i thought it was interesting, because it shows that at least at some point, they were in his possession. in other words, you can't simply say that somebody else packed them, took them out of his office, moved them to his home, put them in the basement and he never saw them or touched them. he obviously did, if that turns out to be true. >> ken dilanian, tom winter, chuck rosenberg, kim whaley, clint watts, my thanks to all you've. we continue to follow breaking news. on wall street, the dow way down right now in the final hour of trading, dropping nearly 900 points. investors reacting to jerome powell saying today that the fed will continue to raise interest rates to fight inflation and warning that will cause some pain to the u.s. economy. we're going to keep an eye on this and bring you a live report just before the closing bell. right after the break, more of msnbc's coverage of the redacted affidavit and how trump world is responding. and the investigation into january 6th continues. we're going to ask committee

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breaking news coming into us within the last half hour. the state department confirming an american citizen has been killed in ukraine. we're told they were killed after an back from a russian military unit. nbc's josh letterman joining us live from kyiv. josh, what more do you know? >> reporter: well, lindsey, the state department confirming the death of that american, but not identifying who the american is, which is a typical in these kinds of situations. the state department does say that they are in touch with the family and are providing all consular assistance as they can, as that family tries to figure out what happened to that loved one. in the meantime, we have also heard from a russian local official in one of russia's provinces who has said on his

telegram account today that this american was a volunteer. who was fighting alongside ukrainians and had recently arrived at the front line and died in some type of a clash between those ukrainian troops and russian troops there. we have not been able to independently confirm that, but this is not the american citizen to die in ukraine during this war. it was just back in july that americans luke luciscion and brian young who were fighting with the ukrainians lost their lives. we heard from the standpoint once again urging americans not to be in ukraine. they are thousands of americans who typically come to ukraine during the upcoming rosh hashanah holiday. the state department using that occasion to remind americans that it is not safe to be here, that russia is singling out american citizens who are in ukraine for harassment and other consequences. and that any u.s. citizens in ukraine should consider leaving immediately.

lindsey? >> josh letterman, thank you. back now to our top story and new reaction from members of donald trump's orbit. the release of the redacted mar-a-lago affidavit, including from the former president himself. i want to bring in nbc's shaq brewster near mar-a-lago and west palm beach, as well as josh dawsey, political investigative reporter for "the washington post." shaq, first to you. what are we hearing from the former president? >> reporter: we're getting a lot of reaction from the former president on his social media page. i think we have one of his posts up. one of the most recent posts calling the entire investigation a witch hunt and something that we've heard before from him. and then you have this one, this longer post. it's a little bit rambly, but he starts out by mentioning that the affidavit is heavily redacted. he says that there's no nuclear, no mention of nuclear. we heard analysts earlier today say that just because there was no mention of nuclear doesn't mean that there were not materials connected to nuclear

weapons picked up on the august 8th search at mar-a-lago. and he goes on to disparage the judge in this case. the judge who saw the affidavit, who approved it, say there was enough probable cause for that search to take place. and he also, we heard, posted two different clips from a radio interview that he did where in one of those clips, he said, he did nothing wrong, and that essentially, all they had to do was to ask him for what they wanted. and one thing we learned from the documents that were released today, is that we essentially did that. the fbi and the doj have been communicating with trump and his attorneys for months now. there are letters that were involved in that. so you're getting a sense that the former president is pushing back, he's being defiant here, but he's also undercutting his own argument, based on what we've learned and seen based on the information released today. >> josh, you know trump world and the people closest to him. how serious are they viewing this, and how it could potentially impact his political future?

>> well, they certainly are viewing it quite seriously. in the beginning, there was a sense among his advisers and those who were in his orbit that it had been a draconian overreaction by doj and it would boomerang and help him, the raid on his house, but as more facts have come out, one of those people closest to the former president did not know what he had. did not know there were so many top-secret documents in the basement and storage room and a lot of his lawyers did not realize that when he gave those boxes back, what was in them. and there's been a summary here now where you have hundreds of documents, some at top levels, that he knew that there were certain things that he did not give back. and i guess it's quite really a challenging time for them. i mean, you also compound that with the investigation in georgia, that's ensnared a number of his allies, with grand jury testimony.

some of them have already been told the targets there by the d.a., who's probing the efforts to overturn the election in georgia. a doj looking at january 6th, asking questions about the former president's actions, and you have new york investigators continuing to probe his business. to there's likely less criminal ty there. still, his top finance officer recently pleaded guilty to fraud and is going to testify. it's a lot of swirling around right now in the former president's orbit. and i think he's trying to maintain at least an upbeat face politically. he met with a lot of his lawyers yesterday. they're trying to bring new lawyers on. he's still saying that he may announce for president later this year. but what initially was a more sunny disposition about this investigation has turned more sour, i guess, as the weeks have gone on. >> shaq brewster, josh dawsey, thank you. and the two big names in the

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in a separate investigation involving former president trump, the fulton county grand jury is turning their attention to some of his closest allies. former white house chief of staff, mark meadows, mow being ordered to testify, along with attorney sidney powell. both of them are set to appear before the grand jury next month. nbc's blayne alexander is in atlanta. blayne, why is the d.a. turning her focus to meadows and powell, and do we know if they'll try to not show up? >> lindsey, good to be with you. she's kind of laid out why she wants to hear from these individuals and what she's hoping to get from their testimony. the d.a. has made it clear all along that she's going to do a robust investigation. that she wants to hear from anybody who had even proximity to former president trump and can give any sort of insight into his mind-set, into his actions, regarding the 2020

elections, specifically here in georgia. i want to read to you a little bit of what she said regarding mark meadows. she said, essentially, that the witness possesses unique knowledge concerning the relevant communications between the witness, former president donald trump, the trump campaign and other known and unknown individuals involved in the murlt-state coordinated every to influence the results of the november 2020 elections in georgia and elsewhere. that really kind of underscores all of it. that's from d.a. fawny willis and her filing. the phone call that launched this entire thing was the phone call that former president trump made to brad raffensperger, back in january of 2021, asking him to find enough votes to overturn joe biden's victory. she wants to talk to mark meadows about that, along with several other things around that

time period. as for whether or not they will try not to appear, we've not heard from them yet. we've reached out to them and their representatives, was certainly if we look at other members of the trump orbit, rudy giuliani, others who have been compelled to testify before the grand jury, certainly, senator lindsey graham, who's still in this legal back and forth as to whether or not he needs to appear, we certainly have seen a lot of people trying to push back on being called to testify before the special grand jury. again, haven't heard from him yet, but the d.a. has made it clear that she is going to keep pushing and do what she needs to do to compel them to testify. >> blayne alexander, thanks so much. we want to turn now to another ongoing investigation, the january 6th committee, working behind closed doors during congress' recess. they're gathering evidence and talking to witnesses as their highly anticipated public hearings are expected to pick back up next month. i want to bring in one of the members of that committee, california congresswoman zoe loftgren, also a senior member of the house judiciary

committee. congresswoman, thank you for joining us. there's a lot we want to get to, but first, want to talk to you about your reaction to the affidavit, the redacted copy released in the fbi's search of mar-a-lago. >> well, at first, i was relieved that a thorough scrubbing was made, so that witnesses and the theory of the case were not revealed, so that the investigation won't be thwarted. i think there's some interesting information. it really lays out how diligent the government from the federal records people to the doj were in trying to get this material voluntarily and how they were thwarted. i think we will learn a lot more as time goes on. one interesting thing to me was the indication that the former president had his handwriting on some of these documents. so clearly, he knew that they

were there. >> congresswoman, moving to your work with the committee, can you tell us what you all have been busy doing in the time that we have not had a public hearing from you and your colleagues? >> we've been working all summer. the staff, of course, is in washington, working away and the members are, as well. we meet frequently. we meet virtually, usually. as a matter of fact, this week, and we will be meeting again next week, sorting through various issues that we're still pursuing. new information, new interviews are ongoing. and we're learning some new things even this summer. obviously, we're in the back end of our investigation, not the beginning, but we're still learning new things. >> what can you tell us then -- >> you know, part of our charge is also to make recommendations on various laws that might be changed to make us less vulnerable, to attack by people who want to overturn democracy.

congresswoman cheney and i have been working on an electoral count act reform. i think we're close to the end of that process. and there are a number of other things that we're looking at. and it's not just the facts to lay out, that's important. but also, what are some remedies we want to look at. >> what can you tell us about what future hearings will be about and how many we can expect to see? >> well, i'm very careful not to get ahead of the announcements of the chair and vice chair, but i think they've said, we'll have at least one and maybe two in september. and i'm not going to announce the title, but i do think that they will be informative, as our other hearings have always given some new information and shed some light on the events leading up to the unfortunate events of january 6th. >> and the committee met with former national security adviser robert o'brien earlier this week. can you confirm that you talked with him about discussions about

rump cabinet officials, regarding the 25th amendment possibly removing trump from office? >> well, the rules don't allow us to discuss the content of these interviews, but i think some of our witnesses have indicated that we did have discussions and questions about the 25th amendment. obviously, we know the 25th amendment was not invoked. so one of the issues that we're looking at, in the constitution, it says that it should be the vice president and the cabinet or such other body as the congress may through law establish. should we look at that? are there actually procedures in place? so that's a line of inquiry that's important, constitutionally. and we don't know for sure where it leads us. but learning about the procedures or lack thereof is also instructive. >> congresswoman, former vice president mike pence said earlier this month he would consider an invitation to come

before the committee if asked. why haven't you asked him yet? >> let me just say this. there have been discussions underway, the vice chairwoman has acknowledged this publicly, between the vice president's team and ours. and we would very much like to hear from him. and if he needs a formal letter requesting that, i'm confident just as one person, i'm not speaking for the committee, that that can be accomplished. we do know a lot more about what the vice president was thinking and doing, because his close inner circle have come in to testify and have done so in answering a very large number of questions. but i still think it would be useful to hear from the vice president. >> do you have a time frame on when you would like to hear from him? >> obviously, the sooner the better, but we won't be back in session until september. we could accommodate his

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new reaction to that redacted mar-a-lago affidavit released by the doj, just a couple of hours ago, including from far-right corners of the internet. of course, that means we'll be talking to ben collins. those on the far-right wanted to see the search warrant. that was released. they wanted to see the details of the affidavit. that was released. a redacted copy was released. now what are they saying? >> now they're saying, we have to see the mar-a-lago tapes, because the goalposts have to keep moving. there's a guy named jan berger who wrote a book about

extremism, and he put it very eloquently. they're looking for weaponizizable data points. they're looking more people they can target, they're not looking for an end game here. they could have found a body in these boxes. and that wouldn't have been enough for them. that would have been like, that's somebody else's boxes, donald trump had nothing to do with that body. there is no end game here for them. the end game is to keep stalling, keep delaying, keep moving this forward. and then, you know, there is no possible way this ends for them, other than political persecution. >> so, the interest that you're seeing in some of these far-right corners of the internet is not to defend trump and it's not necessarily to get more information or seek the truth, it's actually almost retribution. >> yeah, it's just retribution. that's what trumpism is now. it's retribution and what they view to be some sort of culture war norms. they want the world to return to the pre-'90s world in general, but get revenge on the people

who changed the world to make it so they have less power in their view, in their eyes. that's what they thought they were getting with trumpism 1.0. they didn't think he was serious enough about this culture war. now they think that he's going to actually exact that revenge if he gets back into office. >> i remember when the details of the search warrant were first released in that property repeat. and you had actually pointed out a conversation online, in which someone said, it doesn't matter if state secrets were delivered to saudi arabia on a silver platter along with a cheeseburger. why doesn't that matter? >> that's not what it's about. he's always been done wrong. it's persecution to them. it's not about facts or information, it's about buffeting the narrative that this guy stands in for all of them that have been persecuted by the left. so if they will find more ways for them to do it, they will. that's why the affidavit didn't land. there was no new person in there who they can be like, that's the bad guys. that's why tapes could help a lot. they get to identify people and search for these specific fbi

agents who did the search, they get to search for the snitch or narc that they thought was somewhere in the trump cavalry. that's why it didn't land today. >> ben collins, thank you so much for bringing using your reporting. coming up, we want to show you wall street. it's in a free fall. the dow close to 1,000 points. still falling, by the way. we'll tell you what's happening, next. falling, by the way. we'll tell you what's happening, next its non-habit forming and powered by the makers of nyquil.

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mckenzie segalo. what did you make of jerome powell's comments today and how is wall street taking them? >> not well at all. the fed has been aggressive on rate hikes for a month, but today's comments went even further. jay powell's much-anticipatedpot frur previous remarks and there was urgency about curbing inflation and he referred to it as the bedrock of our economy saying their responsibility to deliver price stability was unconditional. he emphasized that the fed would be resolute in its fight forcefully using tools to attack inflation which remember, is still at its highest levels in more than 40 years. the fed chief warning that the moves can cause pain and suffering from businesses and house holes and he also said it could lead to a softer job market and that's something we haven't heard from the fed chair before. even with these four consecutive interest rates totaling 2.25

percentage points the federal reserve says there's no place to stop or pause. he signaled that a third consecutive .75 percentage point increase is possible during the fed's next meeting in september. so markets still very much digesting that news and the stocks sold off sharply following the comments. the dow and the s&p both down 2.5%. >> makenzie, we are also getting new inflation data today. help us break it down. >> right. the fed's preferred inflation measure is something known as the personal consumption expenditures price index, and we got updated data that price increases had slowed down in july, so the pce index came in with a year over year rise of 6.3% in july so this key measure of inflation is trending in the right direction as far as policymakers are concerned and chair powell said this morning that while the lower inflation readings for july are welcome, a single month's improvement falls

far short of what the committee needs to see before they're confident that inflation is coming back down. >> makenzie sigalos, thanks for joining us. a somber anniversary since the suicide attack at kabul national airport that claimed the life of 170 afghans. nbc spoke with two marines and took part in the operation. courtney kube joins us from the pentagon. what do they say? >> in both cases they are very proud of all of the people that they were able to help during this evacuation mission. they spoke with an overwhelming sense of pride and what they were able to accomplish, but there's also a level of sadness, not only about the terrible attack that occurred one year ago today that took the lives of 13 u.s. service members and more than 100 afghan civilians in

that suicide attack, but also the fact that there's a recognition that there were many, many afghans who simply could not get out of that country, and there was a desperation to do so. these two marines were -- were responsible for working at the gates or near the walls checking afghans as they were coming through. so one of them, a woman named sasha savage, she led a female team of marines. they were responsible for checking women and girls and in many cases she spoke about how she played with the kids as their mothers were getting checked and their older sisters, how she held babies just to take the burden off of these parents at this difficult and emotional time. again, one year later there's a tremendous amount of sorrow at what happened, but still some pride at what they were able to accomplish with the thousands of people who were able to get out during the mission. >> courtney, how is the pentagon marking this anniversary? >> so we've seen a couple of statements from both secretary of defense lloyd austin, from

the marine corps who lost the preponderance of the abby gate attack. he asked americans to take a moment today and think about the lives that were lost and to think about those individuals and the families who are still suffering today. it was -- it was one of the deadliest attacks in the two decade-long conflict in afghanistan. it saw these 13 service members were 11 marines, one sailor and one soldier, and we spoke with some of the families, as well, leading up to this anniversary and they are really still suffering. the mourning is still very real today one year later. >> courtney, what is the status of the government's review of the withdrawal from afghanistan? >> so there are a number of different after-action reports. the pentagon one seems to be -- it's complete according to a number of officials and i don't know that we're ever going to get it, candidly. i don't know that they'll declassify anything that we will

see. the state department has one and it is not clear for them to get the entire report or not, but there have been a number of other reports. for instance, the pentagon in conjunction with centcom put out a report on that attack at abby gate where we learned more of the details about the suicide attacker and how he was packed with 20 pounds of explosives and he was able to get around taliban checkpoints and how he was able to get so close to these u.s. military and the huge crowd of afghans that were gathered there leading to such a deadly attack, but as far as the after-action reports this gave more of a sense of how the u.s. got to this chaotic withdrawal -- how in april of 2021, president biden announced that the u.s. would withdraw by september 11th and then here we were, there were two chaotic weeks in august where more than 120,000 people left that country, what was going on in that lead-up to that time? there are a lot of questions that aren't answered a year later. >> nbc's courtney kube, thanks

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♪♪ ♪♪ hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. the affidavit used in the search warrant of donald trump's resident is out and it is nothing short of a bombshell. nearly half of the document is redacted to protect sources and

methods and ongoing criminal investigation, but what we do see reveals a wealth of new information that shows that the justice department did not take the extraordinary step of seeking a search warrant to search the home of the disgraced ex-president lightly, and that it was a last resort after months of back and forth between donald trump's lawyers and the fbi and the national archives. doj also making clear that donald trump keeping records that contain what is known as national defense information at mar-a-lago poses a national security risk to the united states. here is what the affidavit says about the records retrieved by the archives in january of this year which contain 184 classified documents. quote, fbi agents conducted a preliminary review of the 15 boxes provided to nara and identified documents with classification markings in 14 of those 15 boxes. according to the fb