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hey everybody, good afternoon, i'm yasmin decillion. we've got breaking news. the nation's top intelligence fischel -- review to the impact to national security of the documents recovered from mcgovern. this comes a day after the bombshell that led to the search. there's major redactions and it paints a picture of a former president with a treasure trove of some of america's most secret information.
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repeatedly inform it -- for putin to give it up. we'll have all the details. plus new controversy over a picture that has just surfaced of pennsylvania republican candidate for governor. we'll get into that as well. we're also following a rally in texas. parents of victims of the uvalde shooting taking their message straight to the texas governor greg abbott. and we are following an increasing war of words over the president student debt relief plan, over the -- after the president blasts republicans over their own loans. just a short time ago, the director of national intelligence is working to review the material seized from trump's former home, and assessing the potential risk to national security if the documents were disclosed. it comes after a committee -- and it also [inaudible]
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>> the parliament of justice offering new insight as to why the fbi seized highly classified documents, on august 8th. -- the former president took from the white house contain information that could cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security. 15 boxes were returned by mr. trump to the national archives in january. 14 of them containing classified information. 184 documents had classified markings including 67 marked confidential. 92 labeled secret. and 25 identified as top secret. some prompted concern they could compromise clandestine
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human sources according to the document. in outlining the reasons for executing the unprecedented search, the government revealed there is probable cause to find additional documents containing sensitive defense information. -- no charges have been filed. the affidavit with entire sections blacked out detailing for the first time that a significant number of civilian witnesses are involved in the ongoing investigation. the former president firing back friday, taking aim at the redactions and the florida judge who signed off on the affidavit, saying, he should never have allowed the breaking of my home. >> all right, let's bring in nbc's nbc's gary graham back, who standing by with us where the president is spending the weekend. -- potential review of the damage
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that has been done, along with of course what we're hearing now from current president biden. >> yeah, i will hands the interaction of national intelligence sending this level to the house intel and house overset chairman saying, quote, we are working to facilitate a classification review of the relevant material. as we've been reporting, they're also working to see about the potential risk to national security was to having all these boxes, including 180 plus classified documents that were found at mar-a-lago. president biden, for his part, has been pretty quiet on this topic. in part due to his covid diagnosis and due to his vacations. but the white house has made it a priority to keep the department of justice's work separate from the white house's work and the political work of the white house. we're seeing it with the hunter, biden, investigation and proceed with the doj investigation. and we're seeing it here as well. but here president biden did
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feel chatty. he talked to reporters a couple of times. he had some sarcasm with this as well. here's what he had to say. >> i just want to know, i can declassified everything in the world, and president, i can do everything! i'm not gonna comment on it. i don't know the details. all at the justice department take care of it. >> we're starting to see with president biden's upcoming travel to pennsylvania, that is getting to midterm mode. he's trying to get out on the trail, talking to voters, promoting democratic candidates, and promoting the administrations winds, including the chips act, the inflation reduction act, and the student loan cancellation from this week. no matter where he goes, donald trump still looms large. yasmin? >> gary grumbach for us, thank you gary, appreciate it. i want to bring in now -- good to see you. we have a lot to get to.
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let's talk first about this development from the office of director of national intelligence. leading this assessment, to assess potential risk to national security. what does this mean for the former president? >> not much, legally, because we pretty much already knew that there were documents taken that had a wide array of different sensitive classifications. the fact that someone is now confirming it doesn't change the fact that probable cause was found, that it lasts three for admiral crimes were committed, and that the evidence of the crimes we are at mar-a-lago. and those crimes related to taking documents that belong to the government. from a legal perspective, it doesn't change that much except make the potential gravity of the harm it was so much more if they conclude that it -- was >> so would it make a
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stronger case against the former president if they were to find that there was a heck of a lot of damage done to her national security because of the fact that he took these classified documents, these highly classified documents out of the white house and kept him at his home for two years or so after being asked repeatedly by the national archives, and the department of justice to return? >> it would certainly activate -- aggravate the factual circumstances, but when you look back at the fundamental circumstances of the crimes that are peer in the search warrant affidavit, they won't change in that much. the elements are arguably already there. does that mean that former president trump or f potus as he's called in the affidavit, does that mean he'll be charged with a crime? not necessarily. there's a big difference between probable cause -- >> i'm glad you made that jump there. it's an open and shut case it
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seems to me. obviously i didn't go to law school. it seems like an open and shut case. he took classified documents out of the white house and took them to mar-a-lago after being asked to repeatedly return them, and he did not. >> exactly, if you open up the statute book, and go through the elements, you would have, like you're describing, a -- case, you met all the elements, arguably. but that is not the end of the analysis. not for malik garland, and for the justice department. they have to consider potential affirmative defenses. we're finding out is that a former president is not your ordinary defendant. he has an array of potential defenses that regular people would not normally have. if a regular person did this, they'd already be charged and locked up. in the situation the president has a number of potential defenses including the potential declassification -- >> but we all know that that's
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not anything. that doesn't work. >> you could prove -- it's something that you have to consider. you have to consider what did the president bring? he has a lot of buffers, he has a lot of minions working under the thumb. did he grab an accordion folder and work -- and walk out of the white house? i doubt it. >> he could say, that guy over there did it, i didn't know anything about it. by the way, that's a common defence in white collar crime. and then you have the challenge of merrick garland recognizing that this is an institution. he's an institutionalist. he'll consider the gravity of when it's best for the united states to charge an ex potus. >> is it best for the united states to charge a former president, is that something to consider -- but is that also best to not charge a former president because he is a former president? especially when you have simultaneously a grand jury investigation happening in
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georgia, you have this investigation happening, you have the january 6th happening at the house, there is digging going on with the department of justice with regarding to that. all of these happening at the same time. if you remember garland, when it's the shoe gonna drop? when is something going to happen? when is this former president going to be held accountable? >> merrick garland has said the doj will pursue justice without fear or favor. that's a nice saying, but i don't know if it's entirely true. the president by necessity, we'll get some degree of special treatment. there is no way that the doj would've gone to a regular person and said, pretty please give us these documents, here's a subpoena, now we're doing a search warrant, and not charge that person. that's not how the doj works. we have to recognize, any president, any former president or current president is going to be treated differently. right or wrong, good or bad. >> i just want to read some questions --
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a former prosecutor for the investigation into russian interference. what is the full scope of what trump took -- what were the documents, and -- >> those are the important questions. we learned none of the answers that came out. in a sense, given the number of pages and the number of blackouts, you can assume there's a lot of information in there. here's the crazy thing, we may never learn what is in those redactions because in the ordinary case, doj never reveals the contents of a search warrant affidavit unless and until there is an indictment. then it comes out in discovery. but most folks don't see it because a regular defendant, you never look at that kind of thing. but in a case like this, here's a great example. even the president is different in this case. you judge considered ended release part of the search warrant affidavit. this does not happen with a
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regular person. this is special treatment across the board. it >> -- possible interference in the 2020 election. coming up in the next 20 minutes, the washington post jennifer reuben on the evidence is showing on those surrounding the former president. we'll talk to her as well. also it's been three months, everybody, since the tragedy in uvalde on may 24th were 19 kids and two teachers were killed. the parents and community members have taken their fight to the capital calling on governor abbott to do more to prevent gun violence and raise the minimum age to purchase an air 15 from 18 to 20. when pierre arradondo was fired this week, when parents said it's just the beginning in their fight for accountability. joining me now is nbc's priscilla thompson, who's in austin for us. it's good to talk to. take us there, what's been
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happening. >> yasmin, we have heard family member of victims speaking very passionately about what they would like to see the governor of texas too. i'm actually here with a mother of -- anna, first of all how are you doing today? >> struggling. i'm struggling, just like the very day it happened. it's extremely different difficult for me to be here. it's extremely difficult to live day by day. >> you spoke very passionately out there in front of this crowd of hundreds. but it is your message to governor abbott? >> my s message to governor abbott's call for a special session. i'm not asking you, i'm demanding you. i need the age change from 18 to 21. i need parents to realize this could happen to them. this could happen to their town and this can happen to their child. >> the governor has called for
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a special committee to look to school safety and mental health but he has not said that he would act on gun legislation. do you believe that it will happen? >> i'm hoping. i'm hoping for the best. i'm hoping that it will happen. if it doesn't, like i say, we're gonna keep fighting. we gonna keep pushing until we get what we need, and what we want. i >> want to ask you one last question because i see you at a lot of the folks in the groups with the green converse on, with the heart, the shoes that your daughter was wearing on the day that this happened. why is that important to wear these shoes? >> because the shoes stand for other 21 lives that were last, not only my daughter. this shoe has stood out all around the world. it's been recognized all around the world. unfortunately it's been recognized for the loss all the children that were killed that day, and the two teachers. >> thank you, very much.
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>> thank you. >> and, yasmin, there you have a, these parents were very clear about what they want to see happen. they want the government to raise the age from 1821, and i want to tell you we heard several times the crowd say vote him out, if that doesn't happen, people say he has to go. >> unbelievable to think about the tragedy that she faced and she still able to stand up to defend the legacy of her daughter and fight for wet she knows it's right in spite of what she has to deal with every single morning, knowing the tragedy that took place and you've already. thank you for that interview, priscilla, and please give her best. still ahead everybody, the florida governor's race. the beetle said all you need is love. and now florida's democratic guttural nominee saying the same. will that be enough for charlie bruce to be round of santas in
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latest critics. here's marjorie taylor greene. >> for our government just to say, okay, well year that is completely forgiven. obviously the have a agenda for that. they need votes for november, so the timing is a pure coincidence as well. but it's completely unfair. >> so the white house, pretty quick to clap back tweeting out, marjorie taylor greene had $184,000 in ppp loans forgiven -- calling out loans forgiven. honoring in timing aziz -- and co-director of the debt collective welcome to both guys. thank you for joining us on this. astronaut, when i talk to you on this when i get your reaction to what we heard, considering the fact that you started with this organization the debt collective which helps students pay back loans. >> actually, the debt
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collective is the students who's not, we be pushing for the cancellation for the student loans for years. frustrating with students who were defrauded by the have to have. and really standing the alarms about the crisis of student debt and demanding that all student that be canceled and make it clear that the president did have the legal authority to do this that we now we know he absolutely does. but there's always been bad faith pushback on this. this idea that cancellation is a hand out. there's a deep double standard here because we know that in fact, wealthy people, wealthy corporations walk away from their debts all the time. we saw the banks build out in 2008. we saw these ppp loans go out the door at the beginning of the pandemic. it turns out that as the white house rightly pointed out something like 13 house republicans got $15 million in forgivable ppp loans. so where is the -- where was the outrage over that?
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students were done whether or total, pursued higher education, found themselves stuck in a death trap. this is very welcome room for the debt collective, student that is still a crisis after this announcement. >> charlotte you wrote about some of the hypocrisy amidst all of this, especially amongst some republicans in washington i want to read a little bit about what you wrote. you talk about mcconnell and mccarthy. when mcconnell graduated from the university of louisville in 1960, for annual tuition cost $330 or roughly 20 $500 when adjusted for inflation. today it cost more than $12, 000, 380% increase. when it comes to mccarthy who called the policy a debt transfer scam, he graduated from california state university in 89, tuition was less than $800, today -- seven 70 $500, --
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>> so basically anyone who went to college before the 80s or 90s benefited from an enormous amount of government subsidy of higher education, far more than $10,000 a person. so the idea that those earlier generations were entitled to a lot of federal government help in order to get educated that younger generations are somehow taking a hand out is really core to the generational divide over this issue. >> extra i want to read a little bit from something that you wrote in the wake of this new saying $10, 000, or even $20,000 does not begin to chip away the interest that has capitalized on balance sheets and it won't reduce their monthly basements. you're wondering what you make about this cap on monthly
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payments for undergraduate loans. >> i think that's an improvement, unfortunately, i've been in this long enough to know that many of the tweaks to the student loan collection program and up having problems, don't end up working its plans. it's also problematic that it's limited to undergraduate loans and not graduate school as well. you need to go to graduate school if you want to be a nurse, if you want to be a therapist, right? there's so many essential fields. it's a step in the right direction, but we actually need to return what's charlotte was pointing at. a very different model of financing higher education. we are now in a model where individuals have to debt finance that used to be a public good. we used to be directly funded by state and federal money. we need to return to that model that earlier generations got to benefit from. that is actually will stop the crisis of student debt at its source. >> charlotte, pick up on that,
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i know you read about that as well. the boomer generation, the benefits they had when they were attending colleges and university. saying younger generations might say what's really unfair is that many baby boomers and the sound generation had access to highly subsidized higher education, while some millennials and gen z get just $10,000 of student loan forgiveness. >> so one of the reasons that we have the student debt crisis that we have is that state funding for higher education was slashed over the course of the 19 80s, 90s, and early 2000s at the exact moment that more and more students were flooding into higher education. so we had colleges and universities getting less government money but educating more students. ultimately the kids picked up the tab. so one of the reasons that you see people saying, why can't people just work their way through college anymore --
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one of the statistics i found was that in 1987, a student could go to the university of kansas and pay her with three school with a part-time minimum wage job and still have money left over for food and books. today, that's dame student working that same job would be $40,000 short. they're not simply -- that does not add up for this generation that it did for previous generations. >> yeah, you think about the the cost compared to 20 years ago it's just astounding. many universities costing upwards -- if we look at private universities, it's out of this world, 60, 70, 80, $90,000 a just to go to college. charlotte alter, astra esther taylor, thank you as well. appreciate it guys. when our actual students saying about this loan forgiveness? we're gonna go live to kent state university. that's ahead. but first, the biggest
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not only in assessment of these classified records, seized from trump's mar-a-lago residents, but also an assessment of the national security risks posed if these classified records were to be released and disclosed. haynes is also saying in this letter that her office will coordinate with the justice department to make sure that her assessment is not overlapping in any way shape or form with attorney janitor general merrick garland's independent investigation. since this letter was released, we are hearing some reaction from house oversight committee chairwoman carolyn maloney, intelligence committee chairman adam smith, the two lawmakers who took the lead on this effort and requested this information. two weeks ago today. they say that they were pleased with the response adding that the affidavit unsealed yesterday just affirms their quote, grave concerns that among the documents toward a mar-a-lago where those that could endanger human sources. they say it is critical that this is all done swiftly to
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quote, assess and if necessary mitigate the damage done. so they have been asked over the last two weeks, have they heard back, what would be the next steps if they don't hear back. and, obviously from the statement we can assume that they are going to keep a very close eye on this as it continues to develop, yasmin. >> all right, ali raf me for us, we appreciate it as. always and as we mentioned and have been talking about, these stunning new details from this partially redacted affidavit it is giving us key insight into how thorough the fbi's search of mar-a-lago was. the affidavit revealed 15 boxes with 184 unique classified documents including 65 marked confidential, 92 secret, 25 top secret, and that is just what was taken back in january. we still don't know what they seized during this most recent search. trump's lawyers responded by renewing his request for a special master to review the
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immaterial's seized from his mar-a-lago estate. but some legal experts are saying that it may be too little too late at the evidence against the president seems to be mounting. joining me as washington post opinion columnist and msnbc contributor jennifer reuben. you are essentially one of those individuals, and you wrote in your opinion today in the washington post talking essentially about how this is revealing really the title of your piece, the depth of legal peril that the former president is actually in. talk more about that. >> there couldn't be a more clear cut case of a violation of the espionage act then someone taking with them, who had no authorization, human intelligence. that means essentially spies, people on the ground perhaps in other countries, who are assisting us. should this information get out, of course as peoples lives would be in danger. and if you recall, some of the great spy scandals in our history, aldrich's aims for
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example. people die because the information that he took, and that he then sold to the russians. so, this is very serious stuff. and the notion that two weeks after the government has taken the material that the -- want a special master. to do wet? these are essentially government documents. and you make a really important point which is, as shocking as all of that material was, 184 documents. some of that the most sensitive type of information that our government can possibly keep. did you get another batch of boxes when they finally had the to execute the search warrant. so they have reason to believe that there were that many boxes still containing materials that were of such a secret nature that no one should have access out of a secured area. so this is really i think on three fronts, extreme peril for
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trump. first of all, the government made every effort, back and forth, first with narrow which is the national archives, then with the justice department in the fbi, to recoveries documents. to, his attorneys at some point misrepresented that there was still more confidential information. in fact, when they walked out of the box, with those boxes, i think that they found lots of documents that confidential information. and the third is that he is kind of slip his own neck by making this silly argument that he has declassified things. he essentially makes the mission that he knew he had with him very sensitive information. but of course under the espionage act, it doesn't have to be classified at all. so long as it relates to national security, and could pose a threat to the country, which human intelligence usually would, that can be a violation of the espionage act. so, through a combination of
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arrogance, lying, and bad lawyering, donald trump is in a lot of trouble. >> so, with all of this happening, of course our eyes are also on november. one specific race that i do want to talk to you about, and that is the florida governor race. charlie chris specifically first and foremost at who he chose to pick as his running mate. miami day county teachers union president carla hernandez, certainly sending a signal it seems, jennifer, that he wants to focus his campaign on education. what did you make of that pick? >> yeah, i think it is very strategic. he is also making it a statement that he is no longer conceding any of the hispanic vote to republicans. they made some headway, as you recall, in 2020. and he is basically saying, i am playing for keeps. he gave a really stem winder of a speech when he accepted, viewers are seeing that now, when he accepted that are really a very impressive win,
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by a much larger margin than people expected in the primary on tuesday. and he basically is going to take it to desantis. he is talking about desantis systematically taking away the freedoms of the people of florida and that he really is going to broaden it. not just on the issue of abortion, but free speech, access to education, teachers rights to speak to their students frankly about all sorts of subjects. so he has not gotten the memo that this is supposed to be a losing cause. he is clearly going to try to bring the fight. and the initial polling showed that he is frankly pretty close. he is only five points away from desantis. if desantis thought this was going to be a cakewalk, i think he is wrong. >> well, i tell you, a lot of folks that i've been speaking to are not necessarily optimistic for charlie crist is considering charlie desantis's popularity in that state in the fight that doesn't seem like florida is reliably a swing state anymore as it once was.
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all of that being said, you in fact in right, this is a real opportunity to knock a would-be presidential candidate off track, and that chris called this the most consequential race in the history of the state. and we have played the soundbite over and over again in which charlie crist says, he is going to campaign on love, running on love as he said. what do you make of that messaging? >> he is really cement in the image that desantis is a bully, and he called the bully on tuesday evening. and i think, crist obviously wants to win. democrats obviously want to win. but the problem from desantis's point of u.s., it is not good enough to win by five points. he has to demolish chris in order to make the argument that he is super elected, super popular, and if the race is closed he in essence gets a big question mark over any kind of presidential run. so, i think he may have over anticipated a coronation for a
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second term. and he does remain the favorite, there is no doubt about that. but i think it is going to be a competitive race and that i believe he was not expecting. >> so, one more thing, jennifer, i want you to weigh in. on and that is the pennsylvania governor toil race. it is not necessarily what you would be thinking i'd be asking. it is that picture that has been circulating about candidate doug mastery anna where he is seen wearing a confederate uniform for a faculty picture. three years before he retired from the u.s. army, and this was at the army war college. it has now since been removed. >> this is just bizarre. that someone can be at the american u.s. army war college and be donning the uniform of the greatest traders in our nation who took up arms against fellow americans. and this just i think it goes to his really off the wall and off the spectrum kind of
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radicalism. and if anything, it speaks to pennsylvanians asked their history and to gettysburg on behalf of the union. so, this is just one more reminder that he is really not a pennsylvania kind of guy. he is some other kind of creature. i don't think i don't imagine that he is all that thrill that this picture is out and about. >> jennifer reuben, as always, we thank you. and by the way, tomorrow guys, charlie crist himself is going to join me in the 3:00 hour to talk about what is going to take to bring down governor desantis this november. we will be right back. desantis this november we will be right back. we will be right back. the unknown is not empty. it's a storm that crashes, and consumes, replacing thought with worry. but one thing can calm uncertainty. an answer. uncovered through exploration, teamwork, and innovation. an answer that leads to even more answers.
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appearing to widen. the da now seeking testimony from mark meadows, and trump attorney sydney powell. she's saying both were in communication with the former president, members of his campaign, and others who tried to influence the results of the election. the filing came the same day georgia governor brian kemp argued he should not be compelled to testify in the investigation saying it's too close to the election, keeping in mind camper if used to overturn the election when asked to do so by the former president. for more i want to bring back danny, talk to me first about your reaction. now hearing sydney powell, possibly mark meadows to testify in front of the grand jury. a lot of people are saying this thing is pretty serious. this may be the thing that brings down the former president. the way that you see this going when you make of it? >> the georgia investigation faces the greatest threat to
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trump and people in a circle. one major reason is the georgia district attorney has no such concerns, and, say merry garlic were about institutionalist. about the separation of powers. about how the executive branch could prosecute the other branch. this is a state prosecutor investigating state crimes. she will have no qualms, no institutional compact sure about giving -- bringing a charge against this former president and investigating him for criminal content. you don't need to be in the grand jury room to know where it's going because now it's seeking of people who, by the, way outside of the da's jurisdiction but because she is investigating conspiracy like charges, that allows her to expand her investigation reach outside of her jurisdiction, as she's already done outside of the state of georgia. this investigation is just picking up steam. >> what do you make of the governor not wanting to
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testify. do you think that's a political ask, not wanting to alienate trump supporters who are looking to vote for him in november? is that what do you see. but do you think ultimately that applies? >> it may be even simpler than that in that none of these folks would want to appear and testify, because it only has a downside to them. been under oath, giving testimony is something that catch them and come back to haunt them later on. any recent thing -- >> we know the role that the governor played two weeks ago when the former president called and asked what he did. he refused when the former president asked him, to do what he asked him to do. he was one of the safe seats that stood in the way of the former president tried to overturn the election. >> that's right, but coming in to testify locks that information in. and it could always come back to harm anyone, even if he was one of the backstops, the protections. coming in and testifying is
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never something anyone wants to do if they can happen. even if they believe that everything they're going to give his good testimony. the argument that there is not -- there is now going to be an election, and it could affect him politically is a good argument. i'm not sure it's going to work, but i don't believe anyone -- i wouldn't blame him for wanting to come in and testify. even if they were perceived as someone who did the right thing. >> danny is going to stick with us for the next seven hours, so i'll be with him in about 12 minutes. if you could make your way over there, i'll see you soon. up next everybody, we're live at can't state university in ohio getting reactions from students about biden's decision to eliminate thousands of dollars in student debt. s in student debt. this is the moment. for a treatment for moderate-to-severe eczema. cibinqo — fda approved. 100% steroid free.
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a education secretary says the application will lunch by early october. you have until november 15th to fill it out. once completed will take about 4 to 6 weeks to process. nbc's just incursions getting reactions from students at kent state university in ohio. it's good to talk to you, what are you hearing? >> good to be with you he has been, we've talked to a group of students who have been coming through late morning, early afternoon here. i think one of the things that sticks out as people we talked to don't necessarily fully get yet how this could impact them. there's a mix of people. one was a junior who we spoke with who believed he could qualify to up to $20,000 because he's a pell graham -- grant recipient. but he's in a situation that many are, and he's waiting for a guidance about it, and how things will move forward. we talked with some students who are brand-new to campus, just days ago starting the
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freshman here. they're not sure what they're fresh -- with their loan situation is, is their family even taking out loans to fully fund their education? there's a mix of opinion from people in terms of understanding what this means to them, however most of the students were talking to, if we took a straw poll, i'd say it was positive reaction to the news. it could open doors to people, given the more flexibility to how they move forward with their lives. there are some that are not supportive, there was one woman who said that her kids were already graduating, and she sees it as footing the bill for more student stand-alone. one student we talked to said if you're taking away the costs from some people, who is the money coming from. here's where -- here's what one student said, the junior who said he could qualify for it. >> it's a big relief, you know, getting in the junior year,
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it's it's starting to stack up. nice to see the number going down. maybe i could spend a little more time looking for something i really like. >> and here's the other way this could all factor into things coming up, yasmin. you might have heard there is an election weeks away. we've got the midterms coming up. this is an issue that could really catching another voting bloc excited. let's didn't we talk to was on his way to help people register to vote. this is something that could factor into some help people would look at the midterm races in their state all over the country. >> i'm trying to forget the fact that there's a election in a couple of months, actually. jessica, thanks so much. thank you for the reminder, appreciated. coming up in the next hour, could any of the documents former president headway put undercover agents spread across the world in harm's way?
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affidavit. reviewing enough information to make it clear how the classified documents are being held by the former president, and how long he refused to head them over. the revelations leaving legal experts in political figures on both sides of the aisle contemplating the potential follow. >> when i read this today, my big aversion and take away is and i know that this is just a prediction and speculation, but i would say it's an educated one, is that the former president is going to be prosecuted. >> not only is this a reckless act by the former president, it may in fact be a criminal act. they asked number of times, and he gave 15 boxes back why continue to hold on to almost a dozen more boxes, is beyond me. i think it is up to the best advice of the former president leaves to his lawyers and not to former further comment on. this

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