tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC August 27, 2022 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
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make it clear how the classified documents are being held by the former president, and how long he refused to head them over. the revelations leaving legal experts in political figures on both sides of the aisle contemplating the potential follow. >> when i read this today, my big aversion and take away is and i know that this is just a prediction and speculation, but i would say it's an educated one, is that the former president is going to be prosecuted. >> not only is this a reckless act by the former president, it may in fact be a criminal act. they asked number of times, and he gave 15 boxes back why continue to hold on to almost a dozen more boxes, is beyond me. i think it is up to the best advice of the former president leaves to his lawyers and not to former further comment on. this the former president, we
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don't know if you will heed that advice. he's still lashing out at the fbi, and any legal file demanding the already seized material. more on that ahead, also this hour, after a string of bold actions and policy victories the president unleashed going on the defensive. >> trump and the extreme maga republicans have made their choice to go backwards, full of anger, violence, hate, and division. but maga republicans don't just threaten our personal rights and economic security, there are a threat to our very democracy. the question is, is that a sign of what is to come in the midterm election, just a couple of months and from now. i'll be talking to robert gibbs. also to those coming up this hour -- the parents of those killed at the uvalde shooting. they take the message to the
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texas governor. just days after the police chief finally lost his job. plus teenagers on the front line fighting for abortion rights, fed up with weather school has not been telling them. they've started their own group to educate her classmates. >> let me take a drink of water, before i start with that breaking news, of course. okay let's go. just into nbc news. the officer of federal intelligence says they're now working to facilitate interview of what they label as relevant materials recovered by the fbi from trump's mar-a-lago home. in the end the assess, quote, the potential risk to national security. evan britton charlie savage, you're going through the affidavit right when it was released. charlie, that was also doing the same in realtime as we try to digest it.
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it was tough to say the least. but, half of it was in fact redacted. we now know for good reason, because of the sensitive nature of so much that was likely at mar-a-lago. i can't fail to mention this enough, what we read about in the affidavit was literally the things that they had seized earlier. it was not what they then got in the search of mar-a-lago just a few weeks ago. >> that's right, we saw actually -- we know something about it with the got a few weeks ago. but two weeks ago -- we learned two weeks ago when they released the search warrant itself and the inventory of what the fbi had taken. and that included batches of documents marked -- mark classified, some marked very classified with spendy compartments of information. they definitely got momala of
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both publicly owned documents generally and specifically classified documents including highly classified documents in the search. but it -- you are right, the description, the more detailed description, 180 documents marked as classified comes from that january search after seven months of the national archives trying to get these documents back, the first time the trump circle let them take some, but then held back others. >> talk to me about this news we're getting from the office of director of national intelligence looking into the risk assessment, the fallout, essentially, from these classified documents being at mar-a-lago? >> so we've known they've been doing this, we reported that, it's an official acknowledgment that's being released from the director of national intelligence to congress. basically when there is a leak
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or a release of classified information, which typically happens in a case of spying or leaky, and the information is definitely known to have gotten out there, they do a damage assessment. what has happened, what do we need to change? who do we need to pull out of the field? what systems do we need to shut down? here, because it's not clear, whether anybody got to the documents -- they were just being held in securely, in random closets and so forth at the club slash house that trump operates. it's not a damage assessment, it's a risk assessment. they don't know if people took photographs of or not. if they did, wet with the damage be? that's how it's been described to us what's going on at the dni inn looking over the documents. >> there's a couple of things that i want to read folks, some of the things that you wrote a new new york times piece.
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first is julia o'sullivan, a georgetown university law professor who specializes in white collar crime. the emerging timeline in these timing attempts to retrieve the documents coupled with claims by mr. trump that he did nothing wrong because he's declassified documents in his possession raise significant legal peril for him. expand on this which you? >> most of the attention of this rate has been on national security, the spectacle of documents marked a secret and top secret, trump making this not particularly credible claim that he somehow automatically declassified everything he randomly took out of the oval office so over the years, that has distracted attention from one of the charges that was listed on the search warrant, and that we saw more discussion of in the affidavit which is obstruction of an official government investigation --
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or government agency conducting its official business. the fbi saying in the affidavit that there's already evidence of obstruction to be found and we are fearful, we have good reason to believe that he or someone would obstruct our investigation more if they knew the roadmap to it. the importance of this is that obstruction, which is a severe law, 20 years in prison, doesn't turn on whether the documents or classified. it turns on whether someone concealed any kind of document knowingly, for the purpose of obstructing an official effort. here there were two. there is the national archives sent to do its job by taking custody of these records that trump did not own. and then there is the justice department's effort, which included a subpoena which he did not comply with. that is the importance of it julia 07 was talking about.
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the peril for mr. trump in those around him. >> all right, charlie savage for us, as always we appreciate you talking to us today. want to bring in mark pummeled mop-less, chief of operations -- as well as danny, who is back with us. danny, i want to pick up from one -- thing that i didn't necessarily read from charlie savage's article. it's an important point. he talks about the missing piece of information from this seizure of mar-a-lago. if the justice department is considering mr. trump for obstruction, there's a missing piece of information. the public understanding of events, whether it is proof that he personally knew documents were at mar-a-lago, and chose not to return them at all including after the subpoena. what do you make of that? >> that's the defense we were talking about just a few minutes ago. who is the doer? who is the person who took the documents out? in a perfect prosecution situation, there's one person
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-- trump -- he's going with an accordion file, he's downloading them onto a flash drive in physically walking out of the white house. i don't think that happened. maybe it did, but i don't think it's likely. trump surrounds himself with a number of minions who do things for him. he doesn't email, it's not gonna be that sort of paper trailer electronic trail. that's an important determination. to vote, who is the doer? who took the documents and what refuse to return them? two important inquiries. and who ever that person is, what was their intent? did they believe they were going to give back the documents? or did they intend and believe they were keeping documents they knew they shouldn't? >> mark let's talk first about this dni news, the risk assessment that's going to happen when it comes to the documents that were somewhat vulnerable at mar-a-lago. you think about the classification. you know how troubling it is
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some of the classified documents that were found at mar-a-lago and the exposure they native had to human intelligence, the cia officers that worked hard to maintain the identity, the secrecy of, i should say. >> right, so, yasmin, i was a cia case officer for almost 30 years. it was sacrosanct in my old line of work, the relationship with our agents. what is an agent? it's someone we recruit from another country to provide information. at great risk to them. so the promises that the cia offers to these agents, that sacrosanct. this goes to our got. that's why this is so important. in terms of the dni assessment, is really important. the respected national security figure -- don't forget the vice chairman -- senators warner, republican and
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democrat both called for this. it's important to get into the documents themselves. other things in there that are revealing that will actually reveal an agent? if there are that's really serious. then we have to take mitigation efforts. at this point it's critical to know how much at risk. i call them heroes those we recruit to spy for the u.s. government. how much are they at risk? this is why this is a critical next up, i applaud the d and -- the dni moving forward on this. >> and there's the possibility these are individuals still out there that are still working for the u.s. government that could feasibly be vulnerable. i wonder, mark, if you think about how much more difficult this type of news could make the work of a cia person to recruit folks to work alongside them, considering the trust that has been broken -- where the former president has taken classified material like this to his own home. >> yasmin, you're right, any of
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these intelligent breaches over the years a really serious. whether it's wikileaks, or the hansen affair, or aims -- when we had spies in our midst. all of these are damaging when we try to convince someone to spy for the united states. but i think it's important to get to the bottom of it too. there's some wild speculation in the media. some people are saying it's the worst it's ever been. some people are -- >> what do you mean the worst it's ever been? what do you mean? >> it's on par with some really huge espionage cases. we have to take a step back, it's important because it does matter what was compromised or not. on the one hand, of course, the doj in the fbi need to be left to do their work. on the other hand, the dni needs to do the risk assessment. our agents, our allies are watching. let's see how bad it is. we need to take a deep breath. we don't know at this moment,
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and trump's holding on to these documents is bad enough -- but let's not call it an end of times, end of world event in the intelligent business until we find out. then we'll see how much our agents have been at risk, and our collection systems as well. >> dick, danny, wet is more at risk for the former president, is it that he took the documents to mar-a-lago, or is it that he took them and he kept them and failed to return them after being asked repeatedly to return them, hence leading to the? search >> unquestionably the latter. for two reasons, number one, it's a lot more approvable. we have timelines. we have efforts that are documented to get these documents back. but secondly, if the documents were initially removed you complete ignorance to some degree. oops-y, i took these out, i didn't know i was supposed to. but when you're told by numerous authorities that, hey, you shouldn't have those.
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we want them back. and time, and time again you fail to do so, to the point that the government needs to execute a search warrant at your home and office, that second part, it's part two that poses the biggest threat to trump and his circle. >> mark, thank you, you're the first person i thought of that i wanted to speak to today about this very thing. i'm happy that you are available to speak with us. mark, you're always great to have on. i thank you. >> danny, you're all right! >> thank you to you both. still ahead, the president launching his most direct attacks -- with biden's new mojo could mean for democrats at the mid term. but first fighting for the loved ones they lost. families of the uvalde school victims demanding action on gun violence, including a rally outside the texas government's -- governor's mansion. >> we're not done. we're not done.
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been three months since the horrific tragedy at robb elementary, when 19 children and two children were gunned down. parents and community members are marching today and calling on government -- governor abbott to raise the age from 18 to 20. when it comes as the lucky police chief was fired by the school board. parents saying it was the first of many victories that they intend to win for their fight for accountability. joining me now is priscilla outside the state capital. tell us more what you're hearing from folks? >> yasmin, things wrapped up just a short while ago. one thing is clear, the families are not backing down. it is not over.
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we saw many of them making the trip from uvalde that the governor call a special center and that the age will be raise from 18 to 20. one crowds gathered. you heard family member after family members of victims going to the microphone, talking about the birthdays and milestones that have already been missed just these past three months and the fact that they are never going to get those memories with their children and it is because an 18 year old gunman who is able to get access to something like an ar-15 went into the classroom and killed them. i spoke to the mother of my take right to you guess about how she's doing today, her name isn't a, about how she's doing today. i want to play some of what she shared with me. >> how are you doing today? >> struggling. i'm struggling just like the
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very day it happened. it's extremely difficult for me to be here. it's extremely difficult for me to live day by day. >> he spoke very passionately out there in front of the crowd of hundreds. but it is your message to governor abbott? >> my message to governor abbott's call for a special session. i'm not asking, i'm demanding you. i need the age to change from 18 to 21. i need parents to realize that this can happen to them. >> and she said that they're in a very calm way but i've got to tell you, when those family members were on the microwave -- microphone they were shouting, they were making clear that this be done, it cannot wait, they are saying if the government does not do this it's clear that they -- that he does not care about their children. we heard -- we met with the governor, and still nothing has been done.
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you can just hear the frustration and the anger continuing to build. but these families tell me it's not over. it's not over and they will continue to fight until they see the changes that they would like to see. he has been? >> but what's the reaction from the family members, priscilla, since the firing of arredondo, despite the fact that it was delayed, the vote, as to whether or not he would be fired because of his own attorneys? >> yeah, yasmin, it's interesting. i was in uvalde when that first meeting was supposed to take place last month and was canceled. i spoke to family members them. they were hoping that it would actually happen, but it was not apparent to them that this was a sure thing. this was actually going to happen. even at the meeting on thursday, which i was also at, you heard this passionate, angry, public testimony. and then the committee met behind closed doors for more than an hour. the tension in the room was building. one person in the room said
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just come out and give us an answer. stop wasting our time. finally the board did come out and announce that pete evident would be fired, and the room erupted in applause. we saw people coming out of the auditorium with her hands raised over their heads feeling like they got their first bit of a victory. the first bit of any accountability in this shooting which occurred three months ago. the one thing that everyone is saying, it shouldn't have taken this long, but this is not the end. they want the sheriff's office being held accountable, the local police department, and even the federal agents, the border patrol that showed up that day. there is accountability to go around for everyone. yes ma'am? >> all right, priscilla, thank you so much. good to talk to. up next, fighting fire with fire. the president signaling an aggressive strategy to take on republicans, including using the other f-word. fascism. and what the fight for abortion rights is doing to galvanize
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it's got to be tide. the extreme maga republicans have made their choice, to go backwards. full of anger, and division. but we've chosen a different path. forward to the future, unity, hope, and optimism. >> so that was the president as you all know speaking at a rally in maryland thursday. he didn't pull any punches going on to say the gop had turned to, quote, semi fascism. he warned that the dangers posed by republicans to abortion rights, health, care and democracy itself. this is just the latest reaction from a president who's fully on offense backed up by the highest approval in a year, following a string of legislative victories.
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for me now is robert gibbs, thanks for joining us. appreciate it. this is a president that for a long time did not even use the name of trump. he didn't necessarily address him directly and or address what he thought of the folks that voted for him. and yet this seems to be an about face in going after him directly as we march towards the midterms. what do you make of this strategy, if in fact that's what it is? >> yeah, it's a couple of different things. when i think you see the prevalence of trump more and more in the news. whether it's the rate at mar-a-lago or more likely, the impact that he's had on taking a number of the candidates -- picking them -- that you see running in senate races right now. you see trump more forward-leaning. when you see the president
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largely trying to do is not dissimilar to what he told president obama. when you have an election, you don't want to be compared to the almighty, you want to be compared to the alternative. you don't want this to be a referendum on you, you want this could be a choice election, where you are getting to pick between two competing sides and competing visions. i think what you see is this president now beginning to assert through his use of the bully pulpit that idea of a choice. that idea of a referendum, not just that comparison to the almighty. >> do you bring up the raid on mar-a-lago, this is happening with the release of this redacted affidavit, the multiple investigations that are happening against the former president, and then with that in mind you also have president biden not necessarily want to comment on any of these
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investigations and what was found or not found at the raid at mar-a-lago. going after the president politically, but not wanting to comment on any ongoing investigations. what do you make of the difference, the line, the red line the president is drawing on this? >> a smart line. when is the overall trump being part of the political discussion and the political world. again, that's my -- that's much more directed at if you look at blake masters, or doctor azar, j.d. vance, their candidates that won their nominations largely off of the endorsement of the former president. it's definitely inappropriate for this president or any president to get involved on an ongoing investigation, one that's being led by the department of justice. it's a smart cleaving of wet is out there and wet people are broadly discussing. things that are frankly,
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inappropriate for a president to be getting involved. and >> do you think he's an asset now on the campaign trail? >> i do think so. i think, you mentioned the highest gallup -- gallup having the highest approval rating in a year. we saw a five percentage points increase in his average approval rating in the past five weeks. i do think that this election, putting a vision that the choice vision that he's putting in front of people it's important. somebody big has to do that. he can do that really well. if you look at the legislative accomplishments of the past month, democrats have gotten more and more excited. changes in health care policy that have been sought for two decades. changes in the seriousness with which we take climate change for the first time in our country's history. i think it's really gotten
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democrats enthused and excited in a way that they certainly -- certainly weren't a few months ago. >> it's been an incredible legislative winds over the last month or so. that being said, the overarching question whether or not they can harness the momentum between now and november because voters have such short memories. especially considering the economy, that might continue -- the interest rates that might be race, that would not make people happy. people thinking about their pocketbooks right about now to. let's talk about abortion rights. we know democrats want to harness that. it definitely seems to be an issue that democrats are voting on. we saw that in upstate new york as well. republicans are trying to sweep it under the rug, there wasn't an example of that with blake masters. he was outspoken about him being antiabortion. we now know he's really hauled, retooled his website, and wiped
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it away. he has wiped away the strong views on this and is now advocating for a federal personhood law. do you think this is going to work? do you think more republicans are going to follow suit? >> no, it's definitely not going to work. the idea that somehow somebody isn't going to find out what your views are in an election with tens of millions of dollars of ad spending simply because you described the policy section of your website is borderline silly. this election changed completely on may the 2nd of this year. that's when politico first reported the leaked draft of the alito decision to overturn roe v. wade. that's the moment when everything in this election change. it's the moment in which democrats began to get enthused. the supreme court was taking away a guaranteed right. they believed it was guaranteed. we've seen an increase in the
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direction of and the intensity of particularly female voters registering for the first time. and this is a point in which the election, to our previous discussion, became not just about joe biden but -- about a lot of issues. we have a lot of republicans that have extraordinarily draconian views on this. what i mean by that is really narrow exceptions or no exceptions at all for things like rape or incest or the health of the mother. those are not just out of step with the democratic views, there are those are out of step with a huge majority of views. you're looking at 70, sometimes 90% of people that favor those exceptions. >> absolutely. former white house press secretary, robert gibbs, thank you for joining us on the saturday. appreciate it, sir. coming up ukrainian president zelenskyy warning of the dangerous situation in the southeast as the shelling
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city. how close were we to a nuclear disaster? >> it's hard to tell exactly, yasmin. the issue was not that shelling hit the reactors themselves which are very well protected. it wasn't that they hit the spent nuclear fuel, which has been a big concern. the issue is that the plant lost its external power for a period of time which is needed to power the cooling systems that keep the nuclear reactors from overheating. it went to backup power. they had diesel generators. there's also a connection to a nearby thermal power plant. if they were unable to use those backup sources of power, then you could get into a real situation where you could potentially have a nuclear knockdown and radiation spread. we were a couple of steps away from catastrophe. but this is far too close for anyone's comfort. i spoke with mariana boot here who is a nuclear expert with harvard university's belford center. this is what she said about the risks of using that backup power. >> it is really, really
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concerning. because, you know, these emergency systems are exactly that. they kick in when the of -- site power is lost. they're meant to work for a very limited period of time to cover the gap. to allow the workers and the emergency crews to reestablish the power supply. there are not meant to run a nuclear power plant for any extended period of time. >> and president zelenskyy is saying that another incident like this would put ukraine on the verge of nuclear disaster, yasmin, and we're continuing to see shelling, today. both russia and ukraine once again a cruising -- accusing each other of shelling at or near the nuclear plant. this is not an issue that's been resolved and in the meantime we don't have word exactly when you and expect yours are going to be on the ground to try to stabilize the
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situation. >> josh, thank you. still ahead, in the state of tennessee, where abortion is banned and sex education is not required learning. a group of highschoolers is making it their mission to educate other teens and their joining me next. here they are. >> tonight on ayman, democrats are flipping 2022 on its head. -- the post-roe decision has had a voter registration search that could significantly shape the midterms. we're gonna have that and a whole lot more tonight, at 8 pm eastern right here on msnbc. ern right here on msnbc.
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progressive helps protect what you've built with affordable coverage. welcome back. this week, it allows banning abortion took effect four separate states. idaho, oklahoma, texas and tennessee. some young people in those states are not sitting bowling this happened without doing something. and washington post story
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details the efforts by teens across the country to take control of the message about abortion rights and sex education as well including a tennessee group, teens for reproductive rights. this is how a recent meeting they held in a park was described. behind them on a folding table, bouquets a pamphlets offered information teachers at school would never share about the different -- beside the pamphlets, pregnancy sets and six packs of my way emergency contraceptive. for young men from -- teens from this group join me now. all 17 years old. >> i know you volunteered as the spokes person, so thank you for that. of course, if any of you ladies
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want to join in as well, and answer, we'd love to hear from you as well. alison, you recently reached out to arrows with this idea, for the upper over turning of the supreme court decision. >> i knew arrows had some experience, and i knew that i wanted to experience -- connection with those that had the same drive that i did. >> i want to read a bit about how this washington post article describes the type of education you girls have had until now. 12 days after the teens picnic, the students wouldn't hear anything about it. state law does not require sex education and homes that schools with high pregnancy rates must offer family life education focused on abstinence. is that, alison, pretty accurate, the situation that
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you're dealing with? >> yes it's very accurate. >> what about your parents? how do you feel about the work that you're doing informing this organization to help other teams educate them about sex? >> our parents have been very supportive. they've been very helpful. they really helped us out with this and given us the support they could. >> what do you want to hear in school alison? how do you want things to change in school especially when it comes to sex education? >> i want them to focus on things other than abstinence because obviously it's not going to stop people from having sex. also i think we want the shame to be taken out of it. sex education should not be something that's shameful. the focus seems to be on shame, it should not be that way at all. >> it's interesting because you guys are not getting the sex education that you want at your school. i'm sure so much of it has fallen on the shoulders of your parents to talk to you about
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it. i wonder if, alison, i'll stop with you, start with you, maybe other girls can chime in as well. is that where you've been learning it up till now, and of course the -- wet took place at the supreme court hearing, learning from them. >> for me at least i learned it through my parents as well through my church which gave us the actual facts and different methods on contraception. >> i learned most of my sex education through hearing it through peers and friends like on the bus after school because our school doesn't really teach us about our own bodily autonomy. we had to learn from other people. >> girls, anybody else? >> i learned on the bus after school as well, we learned together. it was group time. >> i learned a lot from my family and my parents. >> i'm wondering, alison, if
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you feel as if this is going to help create change at your school, going forward. >> i definitely it's going to help create change. we've gotten so much support and love from people all over the country, honestly. people who want to help support us. as well as teens both at our school and across tennessee who agree with us. i think that what we really want to do is get teams to give them a voice -- i think it's definitely going to promote change. >> what kind of turnout have you been seeing, alison, from your friends, from other girls in the community? are you getting help and support from guys in the community as well? >> yeah, at our picnic we had women and men come. teens, to help support us from all over williamson county. we also had people reach out through her instagram saying they wanted to help either plan stuff or get involved in our meetings. we've seen our social media
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grow a whole ton. even at school i've had positive messages come from people who say i love what you're doing, i want to help, i completely agree with you. >> are you reaching out to girls, to women at other schools as well, at other parts of your state, or the country, hearing from them? >> we've had a lot of people from all over tennessee reach out to us and even say they want to start chapters, teens reproductive rights -- i definitely think that's things we want to do. i love the idea of expanding chapters all over tennessee to get the word out and gain support. >> go ahead, please. >> i think it's really awesome the amount of people from other states that have dmed us and asked if they could create their own chapters to. it's recognizing that this is a national problem, to, not just tennessee's problem, as well. it helps us grow a community outside our backyard. >> i think you guys are super awesome. i'm always so impressed by activists and especially
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activists at your age and wanting to stand up for something. thank you for the work that you're doing and for sharing it with us. today, keep fighting girls. thank you. >> thank you. >> paige, alison, don't scroll the prompter, i want to -- read all of their names. thank you, girls, all of you. we'll be watching your work develop. we'll be right back everybody.
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it serves 47 million people, and supports more than a trillion dollars in economic activity every single year, but now it's dropped to critically row levels. lake mead provides drinking water to las vegas, and now it's less than a quarter full. officials say it's going to get even worse as this historic drought is continuing. we want to go to scott cohen, who's live at lake mead in nevada. scott, good to talk to. you it's really -- we've talked about this a mother of time, putting farming communities in peril. >> yeah, and as a result also putting the nation's food supply and more peril than it's already in. just to orient you a little bit
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further, yasmin, lake mead is the reservoir that was formed by hoover dam that's on the other side of that cliff. you can see with the call the bathtub ring. that would be if the lake was totally full. it would be at the top of that. we are 200 feet below that. where i'm standing, it used to be underwater, a couple of months ago. we got out of the water, yesterday, be assured there still is plenty of water. a lot of the problems come in downstream. 400 miles downstream in arizona where we spoke with nancy haywood, a third generation farmer. their water allocation is way down. all they can grow is a little bit of alfalfa right now. she worries about the future. >> the farms in arizona could go away. right now if we go out of this drought it's starting to look very bleak for the future of
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agriculture in arizona. optimistically, i believe that there will be some agriculture -- but if we don't get out of the drought soon i'm not sure. the predictions are there will always be some agriculture here but it will be greatly reduced. >> yeah, and experts say that it's beyond just this current situation. it's more than just an isolated drought. >> all right, nbc's scott cohen for us. in nevada, we thank you, really important story to say the least with what's happening environmentally especially out west. thank you scott. that wraps it up for me. i'm yasmin vossoughian. i'll be back in the chair tomorrow starting at 2 pm eastern. i also want to remind you of what you're seeing at the 3:00 hour i'm gonna be joined by democratic congressman charlie crist to talk about his tough race again to unseat the current governor, ron desantis.
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