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from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome, everyone, to alex witt reports. we begin this hour with new developments from the fallout from the fbi search of mar-a-lago. a federal judge in florida is now signaling that she is inclined to grant a request from donald trump's lawyers to appoint a special master in the case. the hearing is set for thursday. a new reaction today after the director of national children's told chalk lawmakers in the house oversight intelligence committees that her office would conduct a risk assessment of republican mar-a-lago materials. democratic lawmakers in both chambers of congress expressed concerns over the former president's handling of documents. >> the thought that he had put our national security, and those who serve to protect us at such risk is extraordinary.

>> i'm deeply alarmed at what we are learning. it is not about whether donald trump broke the law, but that he could be putting our national security at risk, he could be putting the lives of individuals who work for the united states at risk. >> and some new reaction today to president biden student loan forgiveness plan, senators on both sides of the aisle have differing views on the relief. >> i just thought it was monumentally unfair, unfair to people who didn't go to college because they cannot afford it. unfair to people who would pay their loans back. unfair to people who got higher education and that the government didn't make loans. and just bad economics. >> and it is shocking, george, that some republicans, that the government didn't actually, on occasion, did something to benefit working families and low income people. in my view, the president did the right thing. >> and a new giant leap for mankind as nasa is getting ready for the historic artemis

1 moon mission, a capsule take off tomorrow morning for a high escapes high stakes monthlong test like around the. mode bill nelson gave nbc news insight into the mission goal, as they work to put astronauts back on the moon by 2025. >> we need to be on the moon for much longer periods of time than just lining like we used to, staying a couple days and the left. this time we are going back, we are going to live, there are going to learn there. we are gonna develop new technologies, all of this we can go to mars. >> let's head to capitol hill now, a little closer to the moon. we're gonna get some new reactions to the decisions by the u.s. intelligence chiefs to conduct a damage assessment of those documents taken from mar-a-lago. nbc's allie raffa is joining us on this sunday. so, ali welcome. this decision is coming it request of the intelligence and oversight committees. when you're gonna be hearing about on capitol hill? >> that's, right alex.

after multiple requests from dozens of lawmakers, democrats and republicans on capitol hill, lawmakers received this letter from the director of national intelligence admiral haynes. saying that her office was going to be working and coordinating with the justice department to assess any national security risk opposed if those classified documents taken from mar-a-lago, that we now know because of an unsealed affidavit, contain details about human sources are disclosed. we started to hear, yesterday, some reactions to this letter, to the squinting of this request from house oversight committee carolyn maloney. and house intelligence committee chairman adam schiff. lawmakers really lead this effort and requested this action two weeks ago. they said in a statement yesterday that they are pleased with this response, i think that the affidavit unsealed and confirms their, quote, grave concerns among the government stored at mar-a-lago for those that could endanger human sources. they say it is critical that this is all down smoothly, to quote, assess and if necessary

mitigate the damage done. but this is really where this bipartisan effort drops off. now we are starting to see the stark difference in how democrats and republicans are approaching this topic, especially as we await these lawmakers coming back from august recess in the next month. listen to what the republican senator and democratic congressman ted had to say about this today. >> why hadn't the intelligence community that i have known for my time in the senate, my time in the house, why are we not heard anything about this? in fact, the administration was concerned that there was a national security problem. >> the documents are above top secret that were labeled as sci and special access program level. but only very few people could see, but if they were released it was caused even more damage a top secret documents. so we are talking about some very serious documents, here. and shaman in the maga republicans for defending donald trump's actions.

>> as you can see, these lawmakers are not being quiet about this. while they are so back on these august recess, we expect those voices to grow even laterally return here to capital in september, alex. >> i'm sure, they will all raffa. thank you so much that. joining me right now to join this conversation, lisa regan, legal analyst for the -- show and douglas adams, former cia chief for southwest asia and also was a top counterterrorism official during the trump administration. he is also the author of the book, the recruiters. spying in the lost art of american intelligence. i welcome you. both john, i will return to your first. here we learned from the redacted search warrant affidavit, 184 documents to you for january were classified. some marked top secret. some relating to work by clandestine human intelligence sources. spies. so it will intelligence commute they look for as they try to undertake this damage assessment? what do they need to find out? >> well, they are going to be

looking at the history of these cases, alex, these different programs. a do not think that these various agencies that only programs are going to necessarily wait for a political directive. but i think that haynes has carefully articulated that she is leading the edge. because she's not the face of the community, but it is mostly a policy not only organization. the cia will be looking its case, -- overlooking's program and so forth. they are going to go, back and it is sort of like a comprehensive medical examination. if you something that is bothering you and you can't put your finger on it, you're gonna put more than just have your doctor and put a blood. where you have cat scan, a spinal tap. it is very exhaustive, it is investigative. it is not exclusively passive in the intelligence agencies, they have some active measures that they can do to also gauge are their in consistencies, have -- changed their posture's. have there been any inconsistencies in the programs

themselves? >> when we ask, you dog. i am reading a quote from you in the new york times recent articles, in which you essentially say that by the time secret information gets to a presidents desk he is able to look at this. it has been vetted in a way that has been, i guess, expanded upon and put into context. in a way that we're adversaries to get a hold of, it it is a lot easier for them to figure out everything they need to know. explain that. >> consider if the president's most important consumer, that the person is gaining the most sensitive most important intelligence. that's gonna come from our very best sources. on the human side. and in the comfort our very best, programs typically. the president has very little, time obviously. chief executive. so the president needs a bottom line. in these context. finished products that go to the, president whatever briefings, are going to have some articulation of how we got this information and what is our confidence in it.

so it is really going to identify the name of an agent. -- but enough that the president is doing for him, with this information exposed, there are sufficient clues that those looking for counter intelligence, looking for exposure, we'll have a much more narrow field. starting off with, this is the most sensitive information. which means there are limited number of people who knew about in the first place. and then the initial content for the present is going to further narrow down the search. >> which increases the concern for donald trump potentially having documents of this ill in his possession there at mar-a-lago. moving to my friend, lisa, after trump's attorney released a filing on friday. then judge canyon, aileen cannon, a trump employee. she issued a ruling saying that she intends to -- put a special master -- and others are hearing that on thursday for that. but considering that this has become such a high profile case, with a significant political implications, does having an

outside arbiter review these documents, does that make sense? i am curious the timing here. because hasn't the fbi had, white, almost two weeks now to look for these documents? hasn't the horse already kind of left the barn? >> it has actually been almost three weeks, i know it feels like it just happened yesterday. but the search warrant was executed on august 8th. the question, was, alex doesn't make sense to the special master here given how political and how charge this matter is? on the one, hand i agree with. you having an outside arbiter could remove some of the craziness around this lack of -- legal term. on the other, hand however, three weeks have passed. and more importantly, the usual factors that are present when you have a special master, they are not present here. usually we see special masters appointing where there is a tremendous volume of material. even though there were 26 boxes found at mar-a-lago.

that is, not usually, woodlawn forsman means by significant volume. that usually happens when we are seasoned gigabytes upon gigabytes of electronic information. the other factor that is missing here is attorney client privilege information. both of the cases that the trump lawyers site, evan obligation to judge cannon, our context in which the subject of the search was himself or herself a lawyer who represented other clients. and there was a real danger that the fbi was going to sweep in all sorts of attorney-client privilege information. that is not an argument for president trump's lawyers to be making here. to the extent that they're arguing privilege, they are not doing so with any specificity. which would really get the federal judge the basis for a special master. >> hang on, when you talk about a special master, you say, too, that we are familiar with this because of both michael cohen and rudy giuliani cases. both attorneys. the u.s. special master's to review the documents, trying to weed out any material that could be covered under attorney

client privilege. so, if those are the two you are referencing, lisa, is that a fair comparison? >> i think that most people would agree that we are out of the place of comparisons. meaning. there is no comparison for the situation which we are in. nobody can cite a case that is directly on all fours, or even all threes or twos here, because we are so far away from historical analogues here. that, having been, said yes, i was referencing both rudy giuliani and mike marco. and there is a third case that has been, cited that is the case of least you. it when stuart was an attorney, who was charged at the southern district of new york, for offering material assistance to her terrorism clients. she represented certain accused terrorists and defense proceedings. but she herself was then a charge from offering that material assistance, and achieving the aims of their goals. we are not anywhere near that. donald trump has not much asserted that he has attorney

client privilege information, much less proven that there would be that kind of information. when he has said is that he has executive privilege information. and that argument falls apart on a number of thoughts, including the fact that he is not a privilege holder. joe biden is. and if he had wanted to contest, that the time for doing that would be in the spring. when the national archives, said, hey we are in a turnover these materials to the fbi for their review. donald trump knows a little bit executive privilege. he did exactly that with the january six committee. ashley, mentioned alex, that he lost in district. court he lost again in the -- and a supreme court declined to take the case. so, i reckon that one of the reasons they did not happen at the time is because they knew where they were going. it was to a loss. >> okay, very interesting on that point. timing wise, the, to you, because this special master the potential point, at this point in the investigation, does it likely slow things down given the grave concern of protecting

human intelligence sources around the world, with that concern you? >> i do not think, alex, this is a complication for the intel side. they're gonna be doing their business anyway. on the, outset they would probably be starting to undertake a damage assessment with the counterculture review, based on the cables documents, and we, jury photographs, would have. you which the fbi located there. challenging for the intel community would be understanding intent. doing the damage assessment, generally you are either looking for something is off, you are looking for consistencies, or you have someone like this snowden, who you know took all these documents out and invited them to the, russians the chinese, wikileaks. you have the idea that anything he touches will potentially be compromised. it is harder to do in this case with the president. his touch and grass was far wider than just the documents that are there. so if you do a damage assessment, it goes through actually. everything everything the present ever heard of a classified nature. obviously, that would be untenable. so we have to restricted to

some parameters. but not understanding, intent clearly these documents were there for some a value. not necessarily trophies. what was the value that he had? >> lisa, i don't have time for this question but i'm asking. anyway i am sorry to johanna at the booth. i just have to ask about the hand reading squiggles on -- by donald trump on some of these recovered documents. you have said that this could be just criminal. can you give me a quick reason for why? >> if donald trump created those scribbles, on the documents, after he was president. then it would violate the statute that prohibits the alteration or making a false entries. on government documents. let alone whether they are classified or not. you just can't mess with documents that belong to the government, after you know and i have a right to have them -- >> thank you for that answer, and thank you china for the extra time. lisa reuben and -- appreciate you. both from a polling about the search of mar-a-lago, it comes as no surprise that republican voters are still standing by their man. but there is one result from a

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sense in how trump is benefiting from the mar-a-lago. search the consulate shows that trump underwater generally with registered voters, and those who voted for joe biden. but among those who voted for him in 2020 his favor billet-y is at 80%. and the news finds 54% of republicans saying they prefer trump to the 2024 nomination. and that's only seven points higher than bolivia fast. search joining me, now tim miller, -- jeb bush 2060. right here with the msnbc political analyst, by the way this is his. book and it is. great why we, did it -- from hell. tim, welcome, a very long list.

and how you interpret trump's numbers? >> it seems like we are still on the, road have, alex? i interpret it as, the republican party's problem since 2015 has really been this bottom-up problem. voters are demanding politicians that channel their grievances, they resentments their anger. and donald trump does that better than anybody else. so if they are angry at political elites, they are angry the democrats. and they, see obviously this is. bogus but if they are made to believe by conservative media that this is part of some plot by the elites to get donald trump, it should not be surprising that some of them were maybe looking at rhonda santas, maybe ready to move. on they might say no i want to stand by my man, to give him the little finger to the people that were to get. him and i think that is what we are seeing at least in the short term. >> so this is so interesting. these numbers, when yahoo got into all of this and it looked at exactly the republican

voters, here's how they responded. 67% say the search was not justified. here is the shocking one. 69% believe trump is careful of handling classified documents. , really didn't rip them up, didn't flush them down the toilet, worn boxes and boxes found in mar-a-lago? please, but anyway. 28% or more careful than other presidents. what? 32% say it is wrong for trump to take classified documents. but then 62% say that he should not be prosecuted for it. i mean, tim, you have some trump defenders. they are calling for the release of the classified documents, the recovered at mar-a-lago. what do you make of this mine said that trump can do no wrong, though. i don't know with a little sunny optimism. 30% saying that they think that

he acted improperly. pretty significant against. the original poll that you showed in the, intro 18% of trump voters now having unfavorable view of hand. that is really significant. if the 18% to move to joe biden would take him relatively close, no close election, and turned into a landslide election in 2020. i think the problem the republicans have as they still have a stranglehold on the majority plurality 50 60% of the party. and now it is up to the democrats to say, how can you peel off whatever it is, 18% of the starting to show some weakness. and i think that is why the january six committee and these investigations do matter. it might not create this 100, percent we, say let's cure this by that everyone praises. but it certainly might be enough to be politically meaningful. >> at least that sunlight that you are talking about, that poll shows that. but let's talk about the 56% of americans who say that if trump is found guilty of mishandling

classified documents, then he should not be allowed to serve again as president. then, there political analysts that are warning him that trump's dominance, that could hurt the gop in the midterms. give me the big picture perspective on the impact, which all this could have in november. >> well, i think there is significant midterms in november. a few things have happened that have changed levi's for the democrats to benefit. one is these investigations with trump, the january six in the doj obviously the overturning of roe. by then getting his act together, starting to get a few more things through congress. and. signed all those things together at a macro are turning the midterm election into more of a choice. and if they pay tariffs were just the american people weighing in on what they are happy with inflation or not, that is not going to be great for biden. no matter how much things get better between now and ember. if, all the sudden, americans are choosing between okay, i don't love everything about the economic environment right now, but the folks on the other side want to --

abortion of one week, and are being run by a corrupting criminal mombasa. okay. that, i think, could help biden potentially in some of the key districts in key states. you are saying, that particularly, in the senate race. e >> here is something that the hills are. warning trump loyalist now increasing rates in the house because centrist republicans are increasingly falling victim to the primary. so what concerns you about this? >> this is true. and i don't think this is -- for people yet. but whether it is a good midterm or bad midterm for republicans, next january in this new congress comes, in there will be more maga insurrectionist republicans in the congress who supported donald trump's effort to overturn the election than there were before january six. so the party will have gotten more, trumpy more anti democracy, and it is happening in primaries across the board. and it is really going to have a long term impact. >> yes, that is sobering. tim miller thank you for bringing it to us. come see me again.

soon appreciate it. in the, meantime of donald trump rages in the face of several investigations, we are not hearing any difference of him from -- jerry kushner. is he trying to stiff distance of self misspelled or in law? maybe he is laying low because of his newly released memoir that somebody to be more fiction than fact. up next, we are going to see why what cushioned leaves out of his narrative is a lot more troubling about his time in the white house. e house.

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and instead or presents the justice department's belief that it has probable cause that a crime has been committed. joining me now vicky ward, author of the book, kushner inc.. . also in nbc think peace. the most revealing part of jerry kushner's new memoir, when it leaves out. dickey, we're gonna get to jerry kushner in your assessment of all of that in just a moment. but overall, what has been the response that you have been hearing from the trump camp about the affidavits, and the president's decision to hold on to those documents? >> a few different things. at the beginning, when the rate was announced, people in the trump world were saying, oh my god, this is exactly what he needed to become the nominee for the 2024. this makes him a political martyr. it is a witch hunt. but, alex, as more and more details have come out, as the

details about the affidavit from friday have come out, i am hearing that there are concerns that are not being expressed so publicly. concerns about the volume of material, the nature of the material, that there is an extraordinarily careless way it was stored. and people are saying to me, you, know is there an element of the keystone cops about all of this? could it have been avoided? i know from personal experience that trump keeps everything, he kept many years ago, he kept thank you notes for meals or me thanks. from me. and then when i wrote a book that he did not, like he published them. so you know, was this chaotic slightly egocentric maneuver that got incredibly out of hand, or was it something much worse? i think we are all waiting to

see. >> you know, your personal story, he kept something about you that he could use, in his eyes, as retribution. that is scary, if you apply that mentality to these documents. but we are not going to go, there because it is purely speculative. let me ask you a jury, commissioner because he does have this new book out. and you, brought vicky, that there are significant emissions that call his handling of classified information into question. so explain that. >> right. you know, the way the jury kushner presents himself in his new book is that he is an extraordinary statement he was able to bring about world pace, because he is a disruptor and has this innovative mindset that no traditional politician has. beforehand. but when it completely leaves out is a huge question mark over all of jared kushner's foreign policy making. which is, money. and that is a question that

congress is, asking jerry kushner right now. as they have asked for him to hand over all of his correspondence. with the saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman. because the saudis governments invested two billion dollars with him. just a month after jared kushner left the administration. an administration, which under his sort of leadership, was very pro saudi. all times. at the risk of national security. it was also profoundly at the time when his father had a big fight -- financial problem. which jerry kushner completely leaves out of his book. and they kushner families financial problems, they've swore what made him vulnerable. and what's considered our

intelligence agencies, and what's caused the issue over his security clearance. >> absolutely. what kind of security clearance did he ultimately hold onto in those four years? >> he had a top security secret. a top secret security clearance. but that according to his own book, john -- wavered on oh visually he got hit by. but it was touching down. hr mcmaster, the former national security advisor, told him that he was considered a target. by foreign countries. that he was considered somebody who was a target of influence campaigns that his family's financial situation made him malleable. you have to ask -- >> because of money? >> because of money.

and one of the big topics throughout the trump administration was, right, money. that they came, and they had a hotel. in washington. that dignitaries state. that they made money out of. jared kushner had all these conflicts of interest, the white house logs. it got close to that we can see it was going in and out of the white house. it turns out we did not know those contemporaneously. that one of his investors enough funds he hadn't disclosed on his investment forms. was meeting with him in the white house. this was not supposed to happen. this is crony capitalism. in the very worst thing that happened was that after his father got rebuffed by qatar, he has the qatari's for money to save his financial problems.

jared kushner was involved in green-lighting the kid of qatar. by the saudis. qatar is where the americans have an airbase. that is our national security in the region. so no wonder the conservatory state in james madison, the secretary, defense went berserk. the cause they were, like, what is going on? >> what is happening here? >> this, as you might imagine, is not what is in jared kushner 's -- but it is my column, and my letter investigates. >> i'm curious, why would you want to book? your view of his book alone, certainly not complimentary. first of all, if you are anything from the kushner campaign response to that, i'm curious how he handles criticism. because between your review and the embarrassingly scathing one from the new york times, do you think you might wish she had not set himself up for the

scrutiny? >> i think that all my reporting on jerry kushner, which at this point is pretty extensive, shows that he's self awareness is nonexistent. and i have read reports that he worked very hard about the new york times review, that he is going to frame it. that's kind of scoffing is really typical, actually. he even admit to it in the way he talks about most of the people he works with. in his own book. it is pretty condescending. so, i am not surprised. that he is so divisive. >> has a fair amount of hubris, there. vicky ward, author of the book kushner, in thank you for the conversation we appreciate it. good to see you. in the meantime to the west, a storm threat threatening the supply of electricity to several states. hydro power production from the hoover dam, with california, arizona, and the valley all depend on, is down by a third.

it is quickly dwindling in this water levels. officials are worried that the water levels recede much, further the turbines will no longer be able to create any electricity. for nbc's scott cohen standing by the hoover dam in arizona with the very latest. so, scott. whatever expert saying about this drought? the impact on the region's power supply? >> about yes. it is one of many impacts from the drought, alex. hoover dam is erupting anytime, but it is also breathtaking these days because of how starkly it shows what is going on with the drought and with climate change. you can see the big and take ours behind me, that is where they get the water from the hydroelectric plant. to see how much of them are exposed. that is not normal, and it is not good. you can see it even more when you get out of the water, bruce nelson, who runs the marina, the closest marina to the, damn took us out on the tour. and you can see those so-called bat rings, where you can see how, just how far, the lake and

the reservoir for the hoover dam has fallen from its peak. >> this is a flushing reservoir, so we are used to seeing it fold. 1000, two, hundred 26 feet above sea level. we have seen low levels, this is a lot we have. seen but we've seen it all. so we are used to this going up, we are used to this thing going down. for that need to fluctuate. it fluctuates a little bit more than it has in the past. obviously, we are record lows. but we've seen about everything. >> so, the lake right now is, as you, said about 1040 feet or. so i wonder level is 1200 feet, remember that, figure 1040 feet. if we go down to about 950 feet, that is where experts say we would have a serious problem. >> the continuation of the drought has led to a situation, now, where the lake levels have dropped very close to it would

be considered the minimum operating level. where you can still produce hydro power, which is a significant output from both -- powell and provide wanted to versions to the basin. >> now, we are not to that point yet. and in fact the lake has come up a few feet in the last couple of, weeks which is unusual for this time of year. nonetheless, as you said at the outset alex, the power levels that they can generate from the hydroelectric plant have gone down significantly. in order to, keep this power plant going and not cause any damage. it is a big deal. >> it is a big. deal okay, scott cohn, thank you so much for that. right now we are just hours away from the start of the historic lunar journey. what we could learn from this next chapter in exploration, next. next >> we have a lift, off 32 minutes past the hour. lift off on apollo 11.

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vehicle to the moon for 42 days. we have two solid rocket boosters. we have four space engines that are powering in the first stage. 8.8 million pounds of thrust. back on the saturn five, it was 7.5 pounds of thrust. 42 days, using this iran vehicle around the planet. we will have a can inside, measuring radiation we will have experiments we were using cube science. we are doing experiments around the moon. there will be a lot of things going on. the biggest thing of this mission, there are four primary objectives. protecting the heat streak, the reentry. 5000 degrees fahrenheit. verifying all the operations for prelaunch to landing. the ship that is gonna take the ride back. we are actually really using some of the parts from ryan, the computers the embryonic software. there are reasonable parts.

then we are gonna have to look at all the flight test objectives. the integration of everything in space. it's gonna be an exciting time. >> i can't! way i want nothing to go wrong. however, if something does thank you. how does nasa come back from this? >> missions that i went on, we were always analyzing and looking at the data. we will look at the data asserted with this mission, and all the different faces. if something happens we figure it out. we have that can do nasa spirit that gets it done! in 2003 we had a tragedy, we came back from that finish out the space channel -- we've had 100 flights. how long does it take to get to the moon? holiday take to circumnavigate the moon? from a colleague it's gonna go 16 miles above the surface. they're gonna get a lot of good intel on what is happening but 60 miles feels like a long way but scientifically will get

long of info? >> i think it's about 62 miles above the surface. they will go 40,000 miles passed the moon a total trajectory going around 283,000 miles. the moon is about 283,000 miles from the planet earth. i'll go back around the backside. 48 days and re-mentor the atmosphere at a really high speed. >> pretty extraordinary. a year after planned orbiting of the moon, in 2025, they are aiming to send another four for the orbiting and then two of the next four get to a touchdown at the lunar set of poll. how significant would that be? >> i've got my flight suit, alex. i'm ready to go. the lunar south pole, one of the benefits of going there is it's always in the shadow. there is ice and potentially wanted their. if we were going to build habitat we would want to build it where the water is, right? there are also potentially

minerals there we could use for doing research or building applications down the road. i think that is a good location for building something -- >> applications down the road? are you looking ahead to mars? with this piece step towards going to mars? >> the sls system is a deep space system. or ryan in the sls is going to get a pass the moon. looking to deep space exploration as well as maybe going to mars one day. we are still around the drawing board, taking a look at exactly how we are going to do that but i think that is what the whole purpose of this as a less system is. to do deep space exploration. to di am personally obsessed wih jupiter and saturn. just since week that world was treated to stunning images of jupiter. by the james webb telescope. the giants storms, the aurora, faint rings in greater detail. what did you think when you saw

this? >> it is stunningly beautiful. you always saw that red spot but you didn't realize that there was auroras coming off of the top of the red spot. the level of detail, it makes you wonder whatever is out there that we don't know about in our solicit to? i think james webb is going to unleash so many secrets on how things were in our solar system. also from the big bang. it is like a time machine looking back 13 billion years in the past. the more we know about our past, the more we can know about our now and our future. >> leland melvin, when you get up there on the moon i want you to do a live shot with me. let's work on that one. how about the heavy. before that, please come back and see me again as well. >> i'm ready, i can't wait to see again. thank you. >> thank you, my friend. as we'll reflect on america's last trip to the moon half a century ago, we also know the average price of gasoline backed down with 36 cents a

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very close race. what we have so far our first choice votes. alaska adopted a new rank choice voting system. it means that what will happen is the last chance candidate will be eliminated. the second place votes, the people who supported that candidate will be redistributed. right now democrat mary peltola was the only democrat in the race it is in the league. sarah palin's second but really even though there is currently a nine-point difference between the support that they have, this is our actually a really close race. we will not know the results until wednesday when alaska like officials are expected to tally the second place votes. >> in fact, the two republicans could have split the vote. i see exactly what you're saying with that point there. what about the endorsement that sarah palin got from donald trump? how much influence does donald trump have overall in alaska?

do you think that this helped or hurt her campaign? >> that is a good question. i think that sarah palin's campaign was really buoyed by how famous she is. a lot of alaskans already know that name. no one needs to explain who sarah palin is. trump's endorsement probably didn't hurt. i think the fact of the matter is palin is already a known quantity in the state. a lot of people support her because everyone knows that name. >> let's move on to the senate race. lisa murkowski in the incumbent facing off on three incumbents including the trump backing, but as kelly. how close is this race? do you think that murkowski could be unseated? >> this is an interesting race. senator lisa murkowski currently has 45% of the vote. kelly tshibaka who has the backing from former president

trump has a little less than 39% of the vote. really murkowski is in a really good position going into the november election. >> that's good. again, when do we find out the results? wednesday, are there a drop the time that we have to know by? >> most of the votes in the primary election have already been counted, actually. the results are not going to change so much. those results will be finalized on friday. >> we will keep a close eye on that. irish samuels keep you so much for keeping us up to date on everything happening in alaska. that will do it for my edition of alex kelly reports. i will see you tomorrow to panama course next saturday at noon eastern. my friend, yes of force union continues our coverage. even ice cream is like whooping cough, it's not just for kids. whooping cough is highly contagious for people of any age. and it can cause violent uncontrollable coughing fits. sometimes followed by vomiting and exhaustion.

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