to do that, because he be writes lgbtq students in schools. that is inappropriate. that's not doing on to others. i wear these hillary spends every day. all it says is practice the golden rule every day. i do want to others as you would have done on to you. that is how i feel. desantis wants to put upon others instead of letting them make their own decisions about their life, their health care, and the right to choose as women. >> congressman, congressman, around the time. i hope you come back read a time. we hope you come back between now and november. i appreciate the conversation. thank you, sir. that wraps up for me, everybody. i'm yasmin, will you back next saturday sunday at 10 am eastern. simone starts now. >> greetings, you are watching simone. a judge in florida is going to make an important decision about a request from former president trump about a classified document in the mar-a-lago estate. appointing a special master could mean to the high stakes investigation.

a woman's right to make decisions about our own body is under attack, y'all. more than every now. more trigger laws restricting abortion taking effect, i'm talking to activists on the ground about the real danger to women and the battles ahead. plus, a man that really understands that women's rights are on the line and ballot this moment. i'm talking to congressman pat ryan about his upset when that could be a blueprint for democrats. i'm simone sanders, and i have something to say. donald j trump versus the united states of america. no, y'all, i'm not discussing last six years. that is the case the former president brought on the judge aileen cannon on the southern

district. just yesterday, cannon gave notice of her preliminary intent to grant trump's request for what's called a special master. a special master is a coin appointed third-party who had review the documents retreat from mar-a-lago this month. and weeding out any privileged information. it is important to note the judges last line in that notice. this order should not be construed as a final determination on plaintiffs motion. basically, is not over, folks. scheduled a hero on thursday. the announcement comes just after the release of the redacted affidavit justifying the fbi search of mar-a-lago. that affidavit detailed nearly 200 classified documents and probably removed in the white house. trump handed over to the national archives earlier this year. the department said there's a reason to believe he was holding on to even more. the affidavit also details potential violations of the espionage act and the presidential records act. now, the director of national

intelligence, she's going to do a damage assessment to examine the consequences of this mishandling. as we've learned with other attempts to hold trump accountable for his up actions, it's complicated. what happens next? here to lay it all out for us is our legal panel. charlie savage as an msnbc contributor and washington correspondent for the new york times. monika pressley is a legal analyst and host of make it to make sense. welcome to you both. monique, walk through this. why is this request going to a different judge? what effect could a special master have on the department justices investigation? >> well, i don't think answering your second question first that is necessarily a bad thing to have a special master. >> why? >> judge cannon has been a judge for 30 seconds now, actually 2020. that's when she became a judge. she was 38. she's 40. now she has been a lawyer ten years before that. spent some time in private

practice and spent some time as a prosecutor. she doesn't have any experience whatsoever. nail, none. figuring out what executive privilege isn't isn't. pointing to a special master and giving someone who has that level of experience to comb through the documents and figure out whether trump is doing what he usually does, which is claim executive privilege for things they just really don't want people to know, how does a bad idea. >> charlie, first, what does the special master have access to? we know it was found. there is classified information in mar-a-lago. with the special master have access to that? speak to the idea that the special master can do something essentially, money, that needs to be done. isn't the justice department doing that? is there a team going through that in separating? make it make sense. >> to your first question, absolutely. if the judge decides to appoint a special master, you would have to be someone who has security clearance to see some of the most classified documents in the united states

have. we know from that fbi affidavit they were top secret documents and documents marked for sensitive compartmented information. it's hard to have clearance to see that if you don't have -- i guess the special master have a need. to the second issue, you are right. one of the things that was revealed in the affidavit was the fbi foresaw this could be an issue. maybe less for executive privilege and more for attorney-client privilege. there had already been a fight over executive privilege regarding the documents that were taken out of mar-a-lago in january. the biden white house declined to support president, former president trump's attempt to assert the privilege and delegated to national archives. the fbi is taking care of that. executive privilege about shielding information from people outside the executive branch. the fbi is the executive branch. that issues aside. there is the question of attorney client privilege. it's going to get very interesting. the fbi, as far as shadowing this, got a special team to

look at any documents that seems to cover attorney client privilege to segregate them. not show them to the people who are actually working on the investigation. until they decide what to do with them. which could include at some point going to a judge and asking for permission to share with investigators. i think that's going to be the next big issue in this case. what happens to the attorney client privilege? a lot of what president trump's interactions with the government were over these documents went through his attorneys. >> yes, apparently there are emails. i do not know. monique, the judge announced and gave notice of her preliminary intent. this is a preliminary intent. it is not an actual ruling. there is still time. is that unusual? >> no not, necessarily. here is a judge who, to, me is giving the respondent, it's going to the government in this case, every opportunity saying, this is the way i'm winning on this. go full monte. explain all your reasoning and explain it thoroughly. this is where i'm headed.

when i was practicing in doing litigation and i appreciated that. if a special magistrate, which i was in front, of the special master, which i unfortunate had to be front, if they were looking at thinking about looking at her documents, i wanted to give all the reasons why it did a not make sense upfront. and then know at the judge was thinking. i don't think that heads up as a bad thing. i also am agreement surely, of course. i think that any special master is not a danger. we have got the clearance to do it. they probably have more experience than the judge to do it. i don't think it's going to be and the former presidents favor. this is more just a delay tactic than something that is ultimately going to give them a win. and what is not a winning set of circumstances no matter what way you slice. it >> thank you for breaking it down. twitter said something else. we are going to ask experts. i want to remind the folks at home about some of the designations that we are talking about. designatspecifically the nationl archives. i know these acronyms might be

unfamiliar. look at these people and read them at home hcs stands for he meant control system fisas stands for foreign intelligence serration act. orcon designates or originator control. noforn not released a foreign nationals. as i'm in special intelligence. you saw the screen. you're looking at it. could you elaborate on some of these acronyms? is there anything here that would be a particular concern? >> i think there's two categories there that would be the sort of thing that make people who work in the intelligence community here be on fire over documents like this floating around and not under control. one is the human controls system, these are documents that could reveal confidential people who are talking tonight states around the world. maybe they are spies and maybe their government officials that are helping us. if you identify those people you can put them in danger.

it may not be their names. it might be person extremely this if. you know it was, you can infer who it is cooperating covertly. clandestinely with united states. the other things about electronic surveillance. . fisa as for electronic surveillance united states. in some cases, surveillance of takes place here for people abroad. that other category, si, special intelligence, that refers to the real thing that the nsa does. special system for signals intelligence technology and capabilities for monitoring foreign -- the type of stuff that edward snowden dumped out in 2013. except it would be the 2022 version of that. that is the other category of thing that the government tries very hard to protect. once it is revealed, of course, it is useless. people take steps to evade it. >> absolutely. i appreciate you all for breaking it. down this is just so striking to me. when i work at the white house, we couldn't even have conversations about someone's favorite color essentially

without being in a scif in the situation room. very secure place. there's no phones. i could not bring my computer. not my ipad. i do write down a piece of paper. i was struggling. it was a concern for me. thank you for explaining to folks at home about why this is absolutely so critical. charlie, money, you will all be back. all right coming up, what's democrats can learn from congressman like pat ryan special action went in york. he joins me next on his campaign that went big on abortion rights. first, our favorite brand, my colleague richard louise is here for today's other top news stories. hey, richard. >> hey, simone. great to see you. over watching on sunday for. ukraine officials are taking new protective measures amid escalating fears of a nuclear emergency. that includes handing out iodine tablets. which you see here. and making updates to evacuation plans. this for those near europe's largest nuclear power plant after another round of shelling by the plans on sunday.

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and center in this year's midterm elections after the supreme court overturns roe versus wade. democrat pat ryan, he won a bellwether special election for congress on tuesday. upstate new york. he focused his campaign on reproductive freedom. here's the first political ad he released post-roe. >> >> when our country called. he served. matt ryan graduated from his point. and wrist his life -- he fought for our families and our freedom. >> freedom includes a woman's right to choose. how could we be a free country if the government tries to control women's bodies? that's not the country i fought to defend.

i'm pat ryan. i approve this message, because in congress i will fight to protect all of our freedoms. >> joining me now is democratic congressman-elect pat ryan of new york. welcome to you, sir. thank you for being here. i want to start with this tweet. you tweeted this out. -- as a message of hope. hope that when fundamental freedoms are under attack in americans -- hope is restored now and again in november. i find it fascinating that you chose to make this raise about freedoms, but specifically the freedoms of a woman's right to make decisions about her own body. what are you hearing from women in your own district? >> thanks for having me. right after the decision came out, around the time our special election campaign started, attending rallies and protests across the district -- i can't tell you the number of

people that were openly -- tears coming on their face, angry, upset, sad, depressed. it was clear, immediately that that had struck a nerve here and i think across the country, and our campaign really became about amplifying that voice, and saying one fundamental rights and freedoms are taken away from americans, we stand up. we fight. we've been feeling that momentum just build. >> your opponent, mike mullen arrow, he tried to avoid the issue of abortion rights altogether, and instead he focused his campaign on inflation and crime so what lessons do you think that democrats and republicans should learn from your victory? >> i think increasingly -- fear, division, negativity and our campaign was about freedom

and taking a proactive, unified american position that rates are taken away, and not meeting up directly from us but as americans we care about our neighbors, others, and we're going to stand and send that message. as long as we can continue to be about that freedom, which is an umbrella that is wildly shared, we can be on the offensive. you could be righteous in this fight and that is what we are doing right now. >> congressman, to hear you talk about freedom is something i have not heard from national democrats in a while. i've worked for a lot of racism folks. freedom is often something i hear from my republican friends. why freedom? what do you know that we don't, sir, because obviously this worked? >> i'm not certainly trying to say i know anything that others

know but i think, for me, it was very personal. i put my life online in combat for 27 months, two employments for all of these rights and freedoms. i lost good friends. i lost one of my soldiers. to come home and see them get taken away, it's outrageous. i would say consistently for the last decade plus to see the republican party -- patriotism is infuriating to me. because patriotism is about pushing to make your country better, not leaving anybody behind. about pride and living in a collective, and really, those are all core democratic values. we have to reassert our patriotism, as not just democrats, but americans at this point. because the extremism on the other side is a real and existential threat to our democracy. >> i hope some of the democrats

were on the ballot this fall, sir, or listening to you right now. i think what you just said was both powerful and extremely effective. it's not over for you. you are still also on the ballot again this november. he will be in a different district and you will have a different opponent. can we expect that you're going to continue with the same message to the voters? if so, how will you build on that? >> yeah, i think we've said something that is just clear and strong and distilled, and truth, and we will continue to talk about freedoms and choice. both existential -- also things that people can rally behind and really create a broad coalition. going into november, i do have another race here. we have a two for one -- thanks to you just acting. my opponent in the next race is even more extreme. has taken on insurrectionists, -- literally has said he believes

that doctors and health care providers treating victims of rape and incest should go to jail. we have to be very clear to not pull our punches about what is at stake in this country right now. certainly in my race, but this is sadly -- come on a lot of races across the country. the more we can lay out those states and just be clear eyed about threats and near jimcy. i think we would continue to rally people and see americans reasserting american values. >> american values. congressman-elect, pat ryan, thank you very much. >> thank you, simone. thank you for having me. >> when we come back, folks, let's talk about people trying to scare people about texas going up. that's disinformation and the main strategy for republicans in the midterms. is it? well, we'll get into it. i'll begin to all of this with some new reporting with my panel.

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which means the january six committee is expected to take its next steps for the investigation in the capital insurrection. here's what adam kinzinger told my colleague on meet the press this morning about the missing pieces of that investigation. take a listen. >> i think one of the more intriguing thing is going to be some of the financing. some of the fundraising. the fact that a vast majority of this money was raised and under, quote unquote, stop the steal, with no intention of doing anything to stop the so-called stop the steal. it was all about raising money. and people were abused that way. there's been a lot more of that. i think we have a lot more to find out still about the secret service incident. there is a whole -- we're still sitting around early, when we have any of these text messages? why was some of the stuff hidden? i think we will get answers to

that by the time we can present that to the american people. >> joining me now to discuss is our political panel. elaina train is a congressional reporter for axios, klay cain is here democratic strategist and sirius xm radio host, and jim, a political and government affairs consultant. jim dorner strategies. jim goring. welcome to you all. jim, i want to start with you, because what we just heard from congressman king zinger could really get some insight into the committees next steps. what do you think we need to do in november? september, actually? november rides on the law? >> i have the same questions he does. i would like to know where the money went. look, if trump is raising money hand over fist right now, and if it's going to even his endorsed candidates. where is the money going that he raced for that? we know $650,000 is going to the court --

win is in d.c., -- i think that these are serious questions. donors have the right to know where their money is being spent. i'll be there with congressman kinzinger, asking the same questions. >> all right, we will be watching. september's coming. i want to play some comments for my interview yesterday with white house deputy's chief of staff. she talks about president biden and the white house is recent -- for the republicans who have been criticizing -- take a look. >> i think the president and the white house are never going to be afraid to call out hypocrisy, whether it's republican elected officials that are voting against these critical bills in congress that are going to have real impact and lowering the prices and helping american families, but then you go out there on the road and take credit for. the president called that out this week as well. i think what you saw is the president being very clear. this white house being clear about how important this

executive action was, and the real impact it has on american families and students. >> clay, what is your take on this new tone, and the effect that it could have a november? >> i'm living it. i'm on the radio five days a week, two hours a day, and this is what's so many democratic voters have been voting for. they've been asking for a more aggressive tone, better messaging. we always criticize the democrats on that messaging. this is the tone i feel like people want. would i also like is biden is not going to the degree of someone as filed as governor ron desantis, making insults about doctor anthony fauci. it's still not a low blow, but it's fair. it's aggressive. it's clear. it incentivizes people. i was in a barbershop on friday. you know, the beauty salon and the barbershop, when i heard in the barbershop is a barometer of -- they are digging where

presidential biden is going. >> that's good, the barbershops and the beauty shops. they are the real bellwether for america, folks. you know, i want to bring some attention to this recent new york times article. this article detailed months of hesitation from president biden on the issue of student loans, and mostly out of fear that -- has proportionately benefit rich white students. it also highlights the work by president kamala harris did. you find the scenes to get a plan in place. this report gives us a much better idea as to what role the vice president played. a lot of people are asking where is the vice president? it seems to me she was there fighting for student debt. what was your reporting telling you? >> there is a reason, and i think the new york times article did a good job of walking readers through this why president biden took so long to make an announcement on student debt. it was a campaign promise of his and he ran up against the

deadline and by the end of summer in august he wanted to make this announcement and he made it last week. it's really difficult and risky for the president to navigate. one big reason for this and you heard this article laid out as well, progressives within the white house. people like ron klain saying he thinks this is good policy. and thinking that it could turn up progressive voters -- voters ahead of the election. at the same time you have some of the more moderate, more reserve people like my don lynn, a close adviser to the president, as you know. urging caution. i think that as we saw the days after the announcement, we are seeing the two sides play out as well. the more progressive democrats, saying they think this was a long time needed. i think it was necessary, but at the same time they think they could have been more. they were hoping for more. i know that chuck schumer spoke with him many times throughout the year about this. this is pushing for $50,000 and student debt cancellation. of course it ended up being

10,000 for those making 125,000 or less. 20,000 for pell grants. but at the same time, you have people on the right who are worried about with this will do for inflation. i think, and you are totally write in this article, people like kamala harris, the vice president, people like chuck schumer, pushing him to do this. the result was he tried to find somewhere in the middle. he said that in his remarks on the announcement. he said there's people who think it's not enough. those people who think it's too much. he thinks that being in the middle is the right way to be and that's the messaging ahead of the midterms. >> yeah, it is. we will have to see how this is actually going to play. i had students, young people on yesterday. they had a lot of ideas and thoughts, but at the end of the day it's important. i want to switch gears and talk about this recent report from politico which obtained a recording of a 36-minute conference call between republican national committee, rana mcdaniel and major

republican donors. abc news, we have yet to independently verify this recording, but according to politico, this details some pressure from megadonor's, steve win, somebody say las vegas, or the republican messaging ahead of november, he reportedly told mcdaniel that the rnc needed to, quote, they need hard-hitting kind of spots with a man's voice, no soft pedal, they're coming after you if your waiter or bartender or if you're anybody in the cash business. they're coming after you. clay, this is a lie, okay? anyone making under $400,000 a year -- that's just a fact. how is this information combated? we heard the snow, we heard about the arias. what do they need to do? >> i have to quote a read to franklin, lies, lives, and more lives. that is the entire platform of the republican party right now. spinning out information and

hoping it sticks. this goes back to the days of operation dixie. the way that the democratic party has to fight back, they're having to fight back with aggressive truth. make sure you have the bullet points. make sure you show the facts. even when i heard the negative -- narrative of through student loan relief. what about folks making, 30, $40,000 a year? that's why we have the rescue, plan infrastructure, build the inflation, reproduction a. the facts are out, there but we see who they are. they're showing us who they are. they're going to try to win by any means necessary, spinning out as many lives as possible and hoping that it sticks. >> jim disagrees. i'm going to speak and register gyms disagreement. we are out of time here. jim, i saw your disagreement. i just need you all to come back. okay? jim jordan, klay cain, alayna treene, thank you very much. a quick programming note, tomorrow on the peacock show, we will have the u.s. department of education chief

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abortion bans since the supreme court's decision to overturn roe v. wade in june. now, one in three women have lost access to abortion in their state. texas was one of the first states to be an abortion -- now with this new law, doctors can be sentenced to life in prison, or charged at 100,000 dollar fines for performing the procedure. doctors face similar fines in oklahoma, or up to ten years in prison. things are also very denim tennessee where a new near total abortion ban has only one exemption, and that is to save the mother's life. idaho has a similar exemption as well, as for rape and incest. joining me now to break this all down is rebecca gabbard on. she's the ceo of planned parenthood, of hawaii, alaska, indiana and kentucky. amy allen rumba day, is the executive director of --

texas. i'm concerned. amy, this is a five alarm fire. texas has enacted a series of abortion laws over the past year and now any doctor, any doctor who performs procedure -- this is the thing that we were all told and now it's happening. what's the impact? >> the impact has been devastating in texas. there are about 55,000 abortions that take place every year in texas and all those people have to be able to be resourced to travel out of state or they're forced to carry their pregnancy to term against their will. and just devastating. >> absolutely devastating. rebecca, a federal judge blocked part of idaho's original abortion ban as a result of the lawsuit as a result of the justice department, so thank you merrick garland. this resulted as abortions being allowed in order to save the life of a mother. what precedent does this

justice department set? >> thanks for having me, first and foremost. i think that we have to be really clear that an abortion ban is an abortion ban. what's the department of justice lawsuit did is at least ensure that in the state of idaho, hospital professionals can provide lifesaving care to patients when they're experiencing a medical emergency and need abortion care, but it's still -- it doesn't change that abortion for any other reason or need, it's still now illegal in the state of idaho. >> i think it's such an important point, because doctors can perform abortions in case of rape or incest and idaho. you're right, it's still illegal for them to perform abortions outside of these exceptions. can you explain the penalties

the doctors are up against? it strikes me that this could deter doctors from performing the abortions that are legal for fear what can happen to them. >> yes, it absolutely does. it has a chilling effect on providers, and these extreme lawmakers intended that outcome. the criminal penalties in idaho were severe. physicians facing up to five years in prison, felony conviction, and facing thousands of dollars in some penalties as well. >> amy, you know, all of these bands going into effect at once are creating what folks are calling -- there are places in this country where it is just not an option for anyone in their state and surrounding states. when options are reassuring with women who are living in these abortion -- how can it help? >> we share a resource called -- abortion dot org, which will have the majority of clinics of

accepting texas patients. it has a list of abortion funds that can help with travel in addition to resources to help parent pay for the abortion care. the problem is with these resources available, it's still so difficult for people to access the care they need. in addition to that, kind of what rebecca was talking about in texas, because the penalties for providers are so egregious. it has a chilling effect anyways. some people are not sure exactly what they're allowed to do and what they're not allowed to do. it makes seeking health care in general so difficult. it makes seeking treatment form urgencies very scary. and doctors are put in this position where they don't necessarily want to provide any sort of care, because they don't with the result could be. >> we have been talking about it on this show. i think the entire political apparatus saying abortion is on the ballot this november. the majority of americans

believe in a woman's right to choose. 56% of all voters and 71% of democrats say abortion will be a very important factor in determining how they cast their vote this november. not to mention women's voter registration by about 35% across the united states after roe is overturned. is it your sense that people are more willing to vote for democrats now based on this issue alone? amy, the first. >> absolutely, one of the things we know in texas is that the majority of texans have supported abortion access since roe v. wade, and other motivated to do something about it to let the people that will ensure the right to abortion care. the problem is we are a state that has been gerrymandered for the past couple of decades. voter suppression and all of these kinds of obstacles that prevent people from getting to the ballot box are kind of in play, and so even if we've got so many people supporting the issues, we've got so many things stacked up against us.

>> rebecca, get the last word on this. what do you think? >> i totally agree with amy. voters have to vote as if their lies depend on it and the lives of their daughters and family members, because it absolutely does. we are seeing this play out all across the country as extreme lawmakers raced to the bottom to pass the most extreme abortion bans they possibly can and it puts peoples lives at risk. women will die. we are made for this fight, as amy knows, organizations like hers and planned parenthood, we are not giving up this fight. we are here for our patients. it is most important that our patients know they could reach out to us when they need it. >> abortion is on the ballot. i would argue it's a kitchen table issues. rebecca and aimee, thank you very much. we're going to begin why democrats appear to be losing ground with latino voters and with a need to do to turn it

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and how can democrats win them back? here to help us answer those questions, fernand are monte, and mike madrid, also cofounder of the lincoln project and the former political director of the california republican party. thank you both for being here in this deep dive. can you explain to folks at home where more latinos, particularly latino men leaning republican nowadays? >> symone, since the presidential elections of 2016, certainly 2020, the republicans have been able to increase their margins slightly with hispanic voters, especially when you look at what happened in 2012 when barack obama got an all-time high percentage of senate renewing percent. that has not necessarily been the trend in midterm elections. certainly not in 2018 where it was supercharged hispanic votes for the democrats that helped them win back at least a house

of representatives. but also most importantly, simone, and the polling that we are seeing right now, outside of my home state of florida where it is true that the republicans continue to do better with hispanic voters, outside of florida, we are seeing the exact opposite. we are seeing overwhelming support by hispanics for the democrats and that is no with the wind at the backs of the democratic party, with joe biden's approval rating, and the accomplishments around the inflation reduction act, -- which will also have a tremendous impact on hispanics, and the infrastructure bill, which is giving hispanics more opportunities in construction and in other industries where they tend to work and find opportunities. you're seeing these numbers rise. i'm not quite sure to say -- >> so then, let me bring you in, mike. why are folks -- i've heard a lot of chatter about the latino hispanic vote being a little more conservative. fernand just right through the

data for us basically saying that's not necessarily true, we're talking about florida, but everywhere else in america. >> look for an end is exactly right. especially on issues like this. the challenge is as a latina love grows by one or two percentage points free per year for the rest of our lifetimes, will we also see a two or three 4% shift towards the republicans, because that's going to option that growth up based and aquatic votes that the democrats will need to maintain as a majority party, even by that -- he's exactly right. we are really entering a new era of higher turn up. 2018 was a record high turnout of latinos -- 2020, a record high turnout in the presidential election. i'm predicting that there's going to be a very high turnout in the 2022 elections, but just as you are -- this rightward shift is very

real. do abortion politics change that with young hispanics specifically shifting back away from this propensity to go towards the republican party and say no, there's no way i'm going to pull the lever for republicans when my rights are being threatened? i think that's probably the likely scenario heading into the midterms. >> let's talk about that. do you think the conversation we are having now in america and the reality we just walked through, oklahoma, texas, idaho, tennessee, just this week have new abortion bans, or partial bands and some of those places. is abortion going to make a difference in with the latino and hispanic community does going to the ballot box this november? >> there's no question, i go back to the data. we just did polling in arizona, pennsylvania and nevada, three states where you have competitive gubernatorial and u.s. senate elections which can decide control of the senate,

and we asked the question around abortion and despite the fact that many hispanics have antichoice positions, when you asked them whether or not they think the government should interfere overwhelmingly, they say no. to the extent that they are motivated in those three states, at least 40% of hispanic voters across the board said they're more motivated to vote for democrats just because of the abortion issue. -- i think this might galvanize certainly younger hispanic voters and especially as hispanic women, so that the democrats should be able to take advantage of this in the november elections. >> mike, very quickly, inflation, crime, jobs, these are also top issues for latino voters. do you think either party is doing enough to address these issues as it relates to the vote for this november? >> first thing i really want to point out is immigration is

[inaudible] [inaudible] the truth of the matter is, not enough is being done. either party, to focus on those economic concerns. the overturning of roe v. wade provided a unique opportunity for democrats to rekindle that relationship with democrats that has been waving over the past two election cycles, and ultimately, latinos vote with their pocketbook. its job, it's inflation, it's the economy. polling -- i think after the november elections it's going to happen to be a very healthy debate for both democratic and republican parties about with that agent is going to be if they're going to win the hearts and minds of the fastest-growing electorate in the country. >> immigration was not on the list. somebody needs to write that down and take a picture. fernand and mike madrid, thank you very much. usually this would be the point at the show where i will say let's head on over to the culture corner to talk about all of the culture news circulating in group chats, but today i have an announcement. the culture corner is getting a

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