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republicans semi fascists. where is this version of joe biden been hiding all along? i'm ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. how severely did donald trump endanger the national security interests of the united states? how much risk have we've been exposed because he kept classified materials at the beach resort tucked between -- unbelievably, those are the questions been asked by top intel officials in washington. as we reported last night, the director of national intelligence will spearhead a assessment of the national risk to security as a result of the disclosure of documents that have been received by the fbi. that's the first public acknowledgment by the intelligence community, and by the biden admin that trump's
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actions might have caused harm to our national security. curiously, republicans on the hill aren't asking those same questions. in fact, most don't seem very fazed at all by this. >> the hypocrisy of folks in my party, that spent years spending -- wiping a server, are now out there defending a man who very clearly did not take the national security of the united states to heart, and will be up to the doj whether or not that reaches a level of indictment. but, this is disgusting, in my mind, and no president should act this way, obviously. >> it is disgusting. republicans are silent, because what trump did was wrong, and they know it. he potentially put the united states in danger, there is no doubt about it. and worse, he is still putting americans in danger, as the washington post reports, trump
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and his cronies have put rank and file civil servants in harm's way after the mar-a-lago search. attorney general garland faced online assassination threats, he decried the rising unfounded attacks on the fbi and the justice department in both of their agents. and now, the national archives, believe it or not, an agency most people have never heard of, have become a target of a rash of threats and vitriol. all of this, because of the records fight that is taking place with donald trump. honestly, what can we say anymore? republicans don't care about national security, that's the only way to say it. they don't care about the security of government officials. otherwise, they'd be speaking out like congressman kinzinger. instead, they care about their own political prospects, and kissing the behind of a twice impeached disgraced former president. that is the grand old party, indeed. joining our jennifer reuben, an msnbc political analyst and opinion writer for the
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washington post. kurt medulla, -- and a former spokesperson for the house oversight committee. and christina greer, an associate professor of political science at fordham university, she's also author of black ethnics, and editor -- of jennifer, i'll start with you, the gop hypocrisy. it's no longer surprising, i would say, but it is getting dangerous, no? >> it absolutely is. you alluded to the national archives. of course, the fbi had an attempted assault on their facility in cincinnati. and now you hear republicans talking like mobsters. you indict this guy, there will be violence. and that is just thug top. that's how they're behaving. i have to say, that old though the republican party, the elected officials are really the genesis for this, really hateful and dangerous conversation, it's the voters
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who put them there. and when these same republicans win their primaries, overwhelmingly and win their districts overwhelmingly. ultimately this goes down to the voters and their responsibility. just to be clear about this, it's not only in general that our national security is involved, once they take a look at this information. if it does include human intelligence, which is what we're led to believe, the peoples lives could be in danger. that's the sort of secret information that aldridge aims, or some of the other notorious spies disclosed. we may need to extract people to save their lives. other people may already be in danger. so this is a mess, this is caused intentionally by someone who refused to give back the documents. knowing what they were, knowing that the government wanted them back, knowing they were not secured. -- they found them in the bedroom,
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they found them all over the place. so, i think first of all from a legal standpoint, donald trump is in a heap of trouble. secondly, this just goes to the order wrought at the core of the republican party. >> so, picking up on that point, kurt, as a former republican yourself, why aren't republicans condemning more loudly the threats against the justice department in the national archives? i think, by my account, the only person who's really done it is the former vice president mike pence. and he's done it kind of halfheartedly. >> it's because they are cowards, and they are hypocrites. same party that is spent the better part of the last few years talking about blue lives matter, public safety matters, and law enforcement personnel matter, have turned their backs on them, and not only have the aid and in them, they have put a target on their back. with what we've seen most recently with the tax on the fbi, the efforts to quote unquote, death on the fbi. the rise in violence and
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threats directed a law enforcement personnel who are just doing their jobs. it's a very dangerous situation, and the complete silence and the totality of the republican party. people like kevin mccarthy, people a steve scalise and marco rubio and ted cruz. they are just been silenced, they are practically egging it on. in continuing this process of inciting an exciting they're based to try to score a cheap political points from so-called controversy, which are just law enforcement actions, they're trying to do use it to propel them to victory. ultimately, there will be blood on their hands. they are knowingly putting people in harm's way, and the resulting violence is their fault. >> christina, to that point, i want to get your reaction to what senator lindsey graham said earlier on fox. take a listen to this. >> if there is a prosecution of donald trump for mishandling classified information, after the clinton debacle, which you presided over into the hell of a good job, there will be riots
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in the streets. >> you have thoughts on that, christina? you have, now, a sitting republican senator, he may think it's descriptive, it sounds like he is warning the nation that, if in fact trump is indicted or prosecuted, there will be violence. >> right, and you know, that is what lives he graham has done ever since donald trump got elected. he's sort of been the water carrier for the former president. so yes, they're trying to litigate this in the court of public opinion by saying, you can't prosecute a former president, because we will essentially unleash our people. and i agree with everything the court said, but kurt, i'd actually add that there actually already's blood on donald trump's hands. we know there is a young woman who was killed in charlottesville, we know that there were people who were killed on january 6th. there is time and time again that his supporters have shown that they are willing to kill other americans to uphold the racist ideologies of the former president, that have no bearing
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in american democracy whatsoever. so when you have someone like lindsey graham, who knows better. we have lindsey graham on tape in 2015 in 2016, saying that if donald trump became president he ruined not just the party by the nation, he's got a full one, 80 and not only supported donald trump that he is literally bent over backwards time and time again to support things that he knows are not true. he knows it can actually erode american democracy, in any sort of ways that we can work together in a bipartisan fashion. so, the degradation of the republican party over the past few years is really not just embarrassing for american democracy, but it's incredibly frightening for, not just those of us that report on the news, but four republican servants who are trying to uphold the principles of this country supposed to be about. we know that donald trump, for those of us in new york, he's always been a thug, he's always been a liar, he's always been a cheat, he's always been a thief. sadly, he is now trying to galvanize the rest of the country, or half of the country,
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to go along with his greatest, latest scheme. >> jennifer, let's look back this week's biggest revelation, the affidavit. what's your reaction to the release of the redacted affidavit? >> i guess i had three things that really struck me. when was the sheer volume of the documents. 184 documents, including the nation's most jealously guarded secrets. second, that even after all that, even after they carted out 16 boxes. they had to go back in with a search warrant because donald trump and his lawyers -- over months now the republicans have the nerve to say, what took so long if it is really that urgent? why didn't you go in the sooner? the answer is because donald trump is obstructing the investigation, which by the way is one of the statues that is cited in the search warrant. i think the last thing that is there, is that we shouldn't lose back track of the obstruction charge.
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that can range from lying to the fbi, refusing to give it back, the untold to keep the documents in a certain place moving them around. it could be destruction of documents but there is a whole series of crimes regarding that, goodness knows what excuses he will come up with. but looking at this, even at heavily redacted document, anyone looking at this will say. he has a lot of ex legal exposure. >> he certainly does, jennifer reuben, thank so much for joining us tonight, courting christina, stick around we'll talk to you later on in the hour. still ahead, 59 years after his famous i have a dream speech, martin luther king's family is still fighting for major societal changes in america. boy do we need them, i'm gonna speak with martin luther king the third, and andrea king next, but first richard louis is here at the headlines. >> hey, good evening to, you shelling continues around a nuclear plant in southeastern ukraine on sunday. experts fear that the strike could trigger a full blown
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nuclear catastrophe. right now, the un is negotiating plans to allow a group of scientists to inspect that site. two u.s. naval warships navigated through international waters on the taiwan straight on sunday. the planned transit was the navy's first sense how speaker nancy pelosi visited taiwan earlier this month. china claims that pelosi's visit was a u.s. attempt to interfere in its affairs. serena williams will face -- in the first round of the u.s. open on monday night. the grand slam is expected to be the last tournament of serena's legendary career, she has won 23 grand slam titles, including six under the lights of the u.s. open in new york city. more ayman with a minimal hygiene, after this break. giene, after this break. available without a prescription. astepro is the first and only 24-hour steroid free spray. while other allergy sprays take hours astepro starts working in 30 minutes. so you can... astepro and go.
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the governor's signature. the march was designed to press gavin newsom to pass a v 21 83, that's legislation that would give farmworkers the right to vote privately and freely on their own unionization. king likened the plight of farm workers, who toiled for long hours and harsh unrelenting conditions, as almost equivalent to whet slavery was. it's the advocacy of marginalized communities like these farmworkers, that still fueled both martin luther king the third and his wife andrea. today, on the 59th anniversary of his father's i have the dream speech, the kings are announcing the drum major coalition, aimed at lifting up black and brown communities, by investing millions of dollars in groups that promote freedom, justice, and equality. martin luther king the third, and andrea water is king, join me now, it's great to have both of you thanks for making time for us. martin, i'd like to start with you if i can. talk to me about your marching with the united farmworkers,
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and why you supported their cause. >> well, number one, we have supported the farmworkers from early in his inception. my father actually wrote it telegram to cesar chavez and 66, when this march that we did the other day, that i was a part of. this was, i think, the third or fourth march of this kind. and as i said, dad supported, it and then mother also supported the farmworkers, and was somewhat close to cesar chavez, and visited him when he broke his hunger fast. in 2022, it's a sad commentary that our nation does not realize the value of these women and men and families, that picked fruits and vegetables. if they did not exist, none of us would eat. so, we need to find ways to make sure they are treated in the most dignified fashion.
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they are paid responsible wages so they can take care of their families. i will always stand with farmworkers, because as other marginalized communities, whether it's native americans who are certainly marginalized as well, or other latino people, or certainly obviously the african-american community. we are always going to be with them. >> andrea, talk to me about the drum major coalition, and what's spurred its creation. what does it aim to do in this current climate in our country? >> the drum major coalition is what we feel would be a way to realize the dream of martin leith luther king junior, and coretta scott king, and to really reaffirm our democracy which is on its news at this point. we lead a campaign for federal voting rights, and once that was not passed, this january, it became quite clear that this
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needed to be a state by state battle. we could think of no other constituency that is consistently on the ground every day. from protecting voting rights, fighting for peace, justice, and equity than community based organizations. we really feel that with this investment, of 100 million dollars, over the next four years, we really can build political power in the black and brown community. >> let me pick up on that points, martin, what is your hope for the impact the coalition will have on these communities specifically? >> what we know is that when these community organizers are engaged, and fully funded, that they can achieve insurmountable odds. for example, between november of january of last year, in georgia, in a row enough, the
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forest african american united states senator, raphael warnock, and the first jewish senator from georgia, john ossoff, that was directly because of the grassroots organizations that are working on the ground, around voter education, some doing voter registration. some working out in georgia so much, but on those who happen to be rehabilitated, who paid their debt to society and can vote. as you noticed, in florida, people voted because they had voting cards, because they had been told they paid their dues. then the government came and said, they voted illegally and they put people who had already paid their debt back into jail. that is unconscionable, but some of these groups working on the ground we are helping to fund. we see only upside when these groups are fully funded in able to do the work that they are doing to make a difference in our nation to all people. >> martin, can i ask you about
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this week's big news? president biden announcing he was canceling some student debt. it's death a disproportionately effects communities of color. i was just curious to get your reactions to it. didn't go far enough? >> i think it is certainly a good first step, there are always things they need to be tweets, and maybe there needs to be some tweaking. i'm happy and hopeful to see this happening. our daughter is 14, a ninth grader, and will be going to college in four years. i don't know how long this will last, but i think it is tragic that people graduate from college race two or $300,000 of debt. you may not be ever able to get out of that debt. this will help, i think, it will help generations yet
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unborn. and i am grateful to see that the administration is doing it. of course, they made that as a campaign commitment. so, i think it's a great step. >> andrea, the supreme court overturned roe v. wade. it seemed like a disproportionately affected people of color, but it seemed like it also galvanized democrats, and certainly win into the polls and some of the elections that we have seen, some of the primaries. are you heartened to see this mobilization? >> i would say i am heartened, and disheartened at the same time. when i mean by that is that our daughter, that martin just spoke of. at 14 years of age, she has lost more rights then the day she was born. she has lost more voting rights than we are in place in 2008 when she was born. with the overturning of roe v. wade a couple of months ago, she has also lost reproductive
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rights as a woman. that is certainly disheartening and alarming. although, yes, i am certainly heartened and inspired by all of the galvanization. one of the things that we know, with this coalition, once groups are fully funded we know that policies will change, both on a state by state basis, as well as nationally. we also know that our culture will change, because again these groups are every day on the ground fighting for the dream of martin lewis luther king junior and thirdly we know that america will once again, or perhaps for the first time, actually, be a place where all voices are heard and accounted for and protected, and where laws are passed that lift us all up, and don't limit us. >> let's hope for that, certainly, as we go forward for future generations.
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then candidate joe biden made a prediction. in fact, the former senator who had prided himself on his ability to make deals across the aisle throughout his career, told reporters that once trump was defeated, republicans somehow would finally come to their senses. >> i just think that there is a way, and it will fundamentally change things, with donald trump out of the white house. you will see an epiphany occur among many of my republican friends. >> all right, so this week,
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three years after that message, and after more than 18 months in office, and dealing with republicans day in and day out, biden appears to have had an epiphany of his own. the president took his most aggressive swing at the gop. saying, i a closed-door fund-raiser, quote, what we are seeing now is the beginning or the death knell of an extreme maga philosophy. it's not just trump it's the entire philosophy it is like semi fascism. and, on that same day, biden also had this to say. >> trump and the extreme maga republicans have made their choice. to go backwards, full of anger, violence, hate, and division. we have chosen a different path. forward, the future, unity, hope, and optimism. >> the maga republicans don't just threaten our personal rights and security there are a threat to our very democracy. they refused to accept the will
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of the people, they embrace, embrace political violence. they don't believe in democracy. >> now, for almost two years, president biden has tried time and time again to work with and lure republicans back to their senses. trying to attract more flies with honey, if you will. now, with the midterms quickly approaching, and our democracy quite literally on the ballot. it looks like he finally tried to try some vinegar. kurt bardella and christine are back with me. kurt, i just have to ask, where has his version of joe biden in. i'm a tough critic of this president a lot of things, but this is a week where is actually happy to see him strike this tone, uses language, going offense and really crystalize for americans the stark contrast between what republicans and maga trump supporters offer, and what the democratic party has to offer.
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>> presidential biden's been doing his job, honestly. remember, he inherited the presidency during a massive streak of uncertainty because of the covid pandemic. it created a lot of economic uncertainty. presidential biden has been getting stuff done. we are coming off a historical sequence of events where we've gotten bipartisan government for. and we've gotten infrastructure done. the chips ill done. we've gotten the inflation reduction act done. joe biden has been doing his job, and all that the legislative successes have piled up a, he cannot turn his focus to broader conversations about the health of democracy. let's be clear. the republican party, the maga republicans are a domestic terrorist cell operating in america. this is a group of people who have decided that it is acceptable to use violence and threats of violence to try to achieve the political means. that it's okay to threaten law
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enforcement to stop them from doing their job and anytime you have people dedicated to using violent red rick -- to incite violence against other people? that's terrorism. that's what we're seeing from the republican party. >> christina, the president has faced criticism for its comments i should know from republicans, like new hampshire governor chris sununu, who called on joe biden to apologize, and for me who looks at the evolution of joe biden, he came into the offices unifier, even though his own party was being a lot more aggressively this characterization of republicans. and i doubt he used those words lightly. with semi fascism label unfounded? >> absolutely not. this is the joe biden that so many of us have needed. they've been screaming from the rooftops, i want more of an lbj
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biden to show up, and so far he's finally, i think, realizing that this is, -- would domestic terrorism is and what we were seeing in the republican party. this is the republican party. this is who they are. it could no longer hide behind tax breaks. if you are in for a penny you are in for a pound. you are supporting, aiding and abetting people or threatening journalists and other citizens, threatening other politicians. threatening law enforcement. it is all part and parcel. if you're in the republican party this is what you stand for. i think joe biden has finally reached a point where he -- the larger issue on the ballot is american democracy. i always said that joe biden is a bridge president. he will take us over the bridge to help us fortify some of our american democratic principles that have been weakened under the former president, or we will see the destruction of these norms that we've realized,
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haven't been calcified. they're fragile. the american democracies is a series of daily decisions we have to make collectively. we've seen that far too many republicans are going in the opposite direction of white unity and collective action should be and could be in this country. >> i was going to say, it's interesting you have both used this phrase, and it is a phrase that the president himself used a few times earlier this week. take a listen. >> the alternatives to the democrats are the maga republicans, america republicans. maga republicans. the maga republicans. >> there is no more a republican party that does not have maga ideology as its sensual driving force and its major tenet. i don't see republican party without maga. what is biden trying to accomplish by using that label might get republicans because i noticed you both used it as well?
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>> i think we need to understand to get outside of the media bubble. there are a lot of voters out there who have a certain vision of with the republican party used to be. they called it up as the party of ronald reagan, so using the term maga republicans is giving those people permission to change their vote. to vote with us this time. read a point in our democracy where we need to take it when election cycle at a time. every election coming up is the most important election in our nation's history. it is important to the fulfillment of democracy. we need to give these voters a reason to change their mind. people who may have voted for donald trump in 2016, who voted for joe biden in 2020, but maybe they also tried to go back and voted for youngkin in 20 -- we need those people back. using the term might get republican is about giving people permission to lead the
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extremism on the republican party and change their mind. >> christina, your thoughts on this real quick. >> i view it as a way to remind republicans if you are still in that party and this is what you stand for. we stand for people who have stormed the capitol on january 6th. you stand with people who wave swastikas. you stand for people who wave their confederate flag. this is your party. you are choosing to be in a party with the former president who has stolen documents, who is not supporting law enforcement. who is anti -- this is a reminder for the republicans. you cannot hide behind oh, i don't really like the rhetoric all the time. how he says things are little harsh. there are no but seymour. if you are a republican, you are with the maga group. that's just what it is. you have to recognize it and stand by it. here we are. >> yeah, let's not forget, it's a party that breeze doesn't
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that it was going to restrict abortion rights at the end of the term. they signal that, and lo and behold in fact was overturned roe v. wade was gone in june. during all those months and between, let's be honest, democrats did nothing. this week, politico spoke to democratic strategists and asked this question. why weren't democrats preparing to put to abortion related conditions on the ballot to produce turnout. that's what republicans did back in 2004, conservatives orchestrate the placement of
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anti-gay ballots on -- to lift turnout. carl rove, knew what he was dealing. the democrats, on the other hand? well, in an effort to qualify an abortion related measure in arizona, fell short last month, and it's unclear whether one will make the ballot in michigan. the only other states with abortion related ballot measures are for monticello fournié. as one pro abortion rights political strategist said to democrats, they are playing checkers instead of chess. my sunday night panel is back with me, kurt, we've known for years that the conservative majority on the supreme court would likely restrict abortion access, they telegraphed, it saying that trump would only appoint pro life judges while he was running for office. why do you think democrats never came up with a unified political legislative strategy around this. >> well, again i think i referenced this in the last segment. you have to remember this mindset that all of us were in
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at the start of joe biden's presidency. we were coming off of january six, and we are we're also in a pandemic the likes of which we never seen. it literally froze everything in american place, as well as around the world. we were just trying to get through a period of time where thousands have been americans were dying every single day. our economy was frozen and there is a lot of fear and uncertainty. that is priority number one, two, and three. developing a vaccine, getting shots in arms, advancing that campaign. trying to stop the buddy come from piling up, and overwhelming our infrastructure in health care system. it was the entire focus of the first 18 months of the presidency, as well as the political universe. it's easy to say now, looking back, we could've done a, b, and see all of this for the family. you have to remember where everybody's mindset was during that period of time, it was very different than where we are at right now. >> christina, back in 2000 and, for anti gay marriage proposals were a galvanizing issue for republican voters. people like carl rove, they
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took advantage of that, and develop the strategy for it. should democrats take a page from his playbook? and begin to galvanize democrats, and democratic voters around this issue going forward? >> absolutely, but you can start with the framing, which -- there is no such thing as pro-life. these republicans are anti-choice, they are against a constitutional woman's right to choose. the republican party has made it seem like only democratic women get abortions. abortion is our health care. the amount of republican women who want slash need abortions. these are the same people who would think pro-life, but also support the death penalty, they support not giving children lunches in school. they support not helping us have housing and education and they don't care about the environment and climate change. so, there is no such thing as pro-life. this is a republican decision to make sure that women, across the board, do not have autonomy over their bodies.
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so the democratic party wants to start, they need he used a crack training and language about the debate we're actually having. >> we have about 30 seconds left, christina, should they start acting on gay rights and affirmative action with this court in place? >> the supreme court in places frightening, but i think we're gonna go on the offense, i was gonna insert a joke about how terrible the knicks are. if we're gonna be on the offense, i think the republicans need to take a page out of the republicans, when they have, power they use, it and they never let their foot off the gas, and democrats need recognized they need to do the same. >> they definitely use their power when they have, it christina greer, kurt -- thanks for being here this evening. appreciate your insight. still ahead, my conversation with comedian -- his new semiotic biographical netflix dramedy. you don't want to miss that. nt to miss that. aleve x. its revolutionary rollerball design delivers fast, powerful, long-lasting pain relief.
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-- but unless you're living under rock, memo has been featured on the critically acclaimed series and he will appear in dc comics upcoming black adam. but for my two cents, we all know his name because of his stellar new netflix series's -- healthy doses of committee, tragedy and a lot of olive oil, aims to bring to life the palestinian immigration experience. >> hello, sir. would you like to try some chocolate hummus? >> you say chocolate hummus? he just insulted my grandmother. to hell with your culture. >> i did not know that hamas was mexican. >> it's not mexican. it's palestinian. you know what's? there's a lot of misinformation out there. it's not your fault. >> do you always carry that with you? >> so people carry hotspots. i carry all of oil. not just any olive oil. it's palestinian olive oil. it's next level. so good. can't wait.
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you put chocolate ships on guacamole? i don't think so. go ahead. trust me. >> not bad. it's really good. >> i spoke with moe earlier about his life and work on the series. take a look. >> mohammed, thank you so much for joining us. let me just say right off the bat, i mean this was an incredible series. i've binge-watched it with my family. it meant a lot. it was just such an incredible and powerful series. i wanted to start by asking you how you feel, given the reaction that you are receiving, the reception the show has received. and what you're thinking about all of it now? >> it's been overwhelming. just hearing the stories uniquely mine. its immigrant refugee story. there is many out there. there's many people that feel the way i feel or could relate
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to the story. even if you're not a refugee you could just relate to the struggle of working, trying to take care of your family. the spiritual struggle that comes with it. it's a beautiful thing to see people's reaction. it's beautiful. >> you say the story is uniquely yours but obviously it's resonating with a lot of people and it will resonate with a lot of people who may not even be familiar with the palestinian experience or the immigrant refugee experience. what do you want viewers to take away from this story? your story? this show? >> i mean, it's really important to understand this is a story about belonging. about feeling equal to the next person x to you. and anybody could relate to that that's having problems fitting it. that doesn't have to be an immigrant refugee story, but to understand how organized the immigration system is. how long it actually takes -- people think when you get to
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the asylum it's a done deal. no, we have to wait for the five years to get your green card. another five years for citizenship. it's a really long process. we are unable to travel as fully as we could. to be able to see family, to communicate with them. it's just very difficult to go through that. and all the while paying taxes, right? it's just really important for people to know and sympathize and relate to it. to have empathy towards this kind of experience. like i said before, this is a story for everyone, for the every man, anybody -- paycheck to paycheck. multiple jobs, trying to make ends meet. at the same time, losing themselves, losing who they are. maybe some spiritual -- just like, losing yourself in the world and trying to provide for your family. not dealing with the grief that can potentially be there as well.
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it's a powerful one. i put everything i had into it. it's just so wonderful to see everybody's reactions. >> we can definitely see how much you put into it and i wanted to ask you, and you've talked in the past about laughing your pain away. it's clearly a theme. i watched all year series and i watched this show and you could see moments in the show when you almost want to laugh, the to cry at which you are going through and various moments in your life and experiences. i don't give away too much of the show, but talk to me about why that is. why is it important for you to have this big theme of laughing the pain away. not in this project, generally in your approach to humor? >> tell me why you heard -- >> by the way, we've only got two minutes. don't get too deep on me. >> the bottom line is, a lot of grief, a lot of pain can naturally take you to this place. you see somebody laughing.
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they laugh so much they start crying. somebody the crisis so much they start laughing. it's just a natural human reaction to any kind of pain or stress that's going. it was important to highlight those moments, those moments that are deeply painful and show struggle and to sit in and be there, although it's a comedy, the show is a comedy, but we want to shy away from the really painful moments, it's important to just sit in it and let the characters go through that. yeah, i mean that's it. i don't know how else to explain it. being a refugee, anywhere, dealing with this generational type pain, it's something that lingers. i don't think enough people deal with it constructively. so, it was a great way to layer it in the show. i don't have a codeine addiction. very important. if anybody is watching. i don't have any desire. it's another great complexity
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to the character. you can easily lose your way and start using outside things to try to make yourself feel better. >> let me ask you about your generational trauma, if you will for a moment, and it's certainly something a lot of palestinians are familiar with. many viewers at home, maybe watching the show may not be familiar with just how many families fled kuwait and other parts of the middle east during the gulf war. they may not be that well versed into how important that moment was. i would you go about teaching aspects of history? not just in kuwait, but also as your mother in the serious talks about what happened in 1947 that were so essential to your life, but may seem so far away to the average netflix fewer? >> yeah, it was just really important to show with displacement, state listeners can do. you think you're comfortable in kuwait, and everything is going great. and then the next thing you know the gulf war erupts. you immediately reminded, we don't have a home.
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where do we go? and that does something. it is something to you. it's hard to explain or put my finger on it. it's like this pain, let's longing, almost like you're floating around wondering where you belong. and that's another reason -- it embraced me. left me. they took me. and took my family and. one of the most diverse cities in america. we're lucky to have houston. some people don't have that. they're still looking for a home right now. still looking to feel accepted and loved and cared for. a shout out to houston and just like -- give them the show, never had they had this kind of series. scripted series, so it's just very important to highlight houston as well. >> i was going to say, have you been able to connect with beyoncé after the success of the show? >> i'm waiting. i'm waiting, but i'm expecting some calls soon.
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>> hopefully, after this segment they'll definitely be reaching out. mo amer, always a pleasure. congratulations to your success that you rightfully deserve. best of luck going forward, my friend. >> much love. thank you. peace. peace. >> thank you for making time for us. don't go anywhere. up next, msnbc films presents an encore presentation of paper and glue from oscar winning producers brian grazer and ron howard. he emmy nominated documentary follows visionary french artist, jr as his work transcends rules and borders from a prison in california to a -- in brazil. right here on msnbc. also streaming on peacock. catch ayman back here on msnbc at night and saturday's at eight, excuse, me sundays at nine and follow us on twitter at a minute msnbc. until we meet again i'm a mom will headline and live in new york. good night. dline and live in ne york good night good night with hand-crafted steakburgers and chicken sandwiches.
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