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no! a little. only from xfinity. unbeatable internet made to do anything so you can do anything. good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. launch scrubbed. nasa postponed its rocket launch today over engine issues. we have all the details
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explaining what went wrong and what's next. ukraine says a counteroffensive is underway in its southern region as concerns continue over europe's largest nuclear power plant in the country. we're live in ukraine. intelligence officials will look into potential risks to national security from documents found at former president trump's mar-a-lago home. we'll have the latest ahead. it's the first day of school for many communities in kentucky after deadly floods ravaged the state. what students are facing when they go back to the classroom in a live report. and in mexico, 100,000 people have disappeared in the last couple of years. a growing number of those missing are women and girls. we'll speak with a journalist investigating what is going on. happening right now, nasa
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engineers are working to gather data on the technical issue that forced the scheduled artemis mission launch to be scrubbed. nasa said the delay was caused by a leak in the rocket's third engine and the earliest it could launch again is this friday, the 2nd of september. when nasa launches the mission, it will send its most powerful rocket since the apollo era on a highly choreographed 1.3 million mile journey to and around the moon for 42 days. the capsule will fly as close to 60 miles to the moon's surface before moving into orbit and while there is no crew in this first mission, it will represent a major milestone for the agency, marking its first program which seeks to put astronauts on the moon. joining us now is jacob ward from the kennedy space center.
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also with us, former astronaut, jose hernandez. what are you hearing about the progress on these technical issues? >> well, jose, i had hoped to be standing here to tell you all about what it's like emotionally to feel the thunder of this underfoot, but unfortunately, we're all standing here dispointed. the nasa team says the movement of liquid hydrogen, one of the two ingredients in the mix that forms the fuel of this rocket simply wasn't moving through the third engine. the third of four in the way they needed it to. it's extraordinarily complex business. they have to hold this liquid hydrogen at a negative 400-degree fahrenheit or more in order to have it be part of that mission and they just couldn't get it to move through the rocket properly so that does, as you say, move the next window to friday the 2nd. this friday the 2nd. they can't go in the meantime because there's a lunar eclipse
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and the capsule requires solar power to go where it needs to go. so that's the next possible window is friday. if not that, then labor day. but forecasts are bad for weather on both those days so we're disappointed on what is otherwise a really extraordinary mission nasa has planned. >> jose, what's at stake here? >> well, it doesn't say much, jose. it's expected that we're going to have glitches. this is the first launch of a nasa vehicle since 11 years. that's 11 years. it's a totally new architecture. pretty similar to the apollo architecture. they call it apollo on steroids because it looks so similar, but it's the first mission. it's a certification flight. we have these flights for a reason. that's to get all the kinks out
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before we put humans on the moon, but it won't land on the moon. it's not until artemis three until we'll send the first woman and man to return to the surface of the moon. >> so jose, talk about these technical issues. how easy or difficult is it to fix something like this issue with the liquid hydrogen? >> well, it could be pretty complex like plugged lines or something simple like bad sensors. they did a cryogenic bleed to cool the engine, one of the three engines, and the temperatures didn't drop to the expected levels. that either means you have a plug, which means it's not circulating, or worse yet, you have a leak. and those things have to be investigated and find the root cause and solved. but recall, we also had a crack on the tps on one of the flan
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gees and that opened up the crack, the crack allowed moist air to go in. it kind of gets sucked in and because it's moist air and cryogenic temperatures, it builds up ice, which is also a concern. so really two things that need to be fixed before friday's launch. >> and jacob, when the mission does launch, the -- is set to reach the moon's surface. what kind of data will it be collecting? >> it's also going to take ten cube sats. little cubes that are only 4 inches by 4 inches by 4 inches. the pain purpose of this mission is to test the viability of this capsule for going around the moon, coming back to earth, then re-entering our atmosphere
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safely. that of course is the purpose of this mission, trying to get ready, get certified for the possibility of putting people inside. they have to make sure the capsule will survive reentry. there are mannequins that will be riding up with this rocket and they have plastic models of radiation sensitive organs to find out if somebody's uterus, for example, would be affected. it's a big focus of this particular flight. >> and mars is certainly one of the end games. jose, when you see this, how big of a deal is it? what are you thinking when you see this next frontier coming very close to becoming a reality? >> well, jose, i'm thinking about how many 10-year-olds were inspiring out there when they're seeing these images of artemis 1. i was 10 years old when i saw the very last apollo mission.
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i saw it blast off into space. i saw the very last man walk on the moon. that inspired me and i told myself i want to be an astronaut. so i'm hoping this launch of this new space vehicle is going to inspire the next generation of explorers. >> i'm just wondering, jose, when you were that 10-year-old boy and helping your folks, you know, be scouted, and you were going from town to town working on the fields, how does something so distant become so real to you? how do you translate those dreams into becoming like you did? this extraordinary hero to many of us? >> the great thing i did that night, that 1972 night, is share that dream with my father and he sat me down at the kitchen table and only has a third grade
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education, but he was wise enough too empower me into believing i could become an astronaut and said find your purpose in life, get yourself a roadmap and get yourself an education and the same effort you do in fruits and vegetables, put it in your books and your job. i had a sixth ingredient. perseverance. nasa rejected me 11 times. it wasn't until the 12th try that i got selected as part of the class of u.s. astronauts. >> what an amazing life story. with the help of jose right behind you at all times. as she is all of us. >> absolutely. thank you. >> thank you, jose. and thank you, jacob ward for being with us this morning. now the latest developments
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on the investigation into donald trump's mishandling of classified information. the director of national intelligence has told key leaders in congress that she has launched an assessment to see if the documents seized from mar-a-lago compromised national security. it comes after 11 sets of classified documents were removed during the search on the 8th of august. and a redacted copy of the affidavit used to justify the search says another 184 classified documents were found in 15 boxes turned over to the national archives this year. meantime, a federal judge in florida says she is -- to review everything seized by the fbi. the judge is scheduled to hear arguments on the issue on thursday. joining us now to take a closer look at this, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent,
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ken, now an assistant dean an yale university's jackson school of global affairs and david rhode. so ken, what will the director of national intelligence be looking at as she conducts this damage assessment? >> well, the baseline question will be what is in these documents and which agencies are implicated. as of a week ago, the dni did not have access. this means the intelligence community is going to see them and whether they involve as we believe they do, human sources, technical collection. then they'll go back to the agencies and try to figure out the potential damage. there are questions they don't know the answer to. one, did this stuff fall into the wrong hands? has an adversary gotten access to these secrets at mar-a-lago?
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they're not going to know the answer so they may have to do a damage assessment that looks at the potential damage if it was disclosed. they may have to look at the security situation at mar-a-lago and the fact it had been targeted in the past by potentially by foreign intelligence agencies. so they may have to make some suppositions here. damage assessments in the past have resulted in the evacuation of cia sources or technical means of collection may have to be changed. so serious consequences here. one of the other issue that is the intelligence community is going to worry about is creating a paper record that could then be forced to be turned over to the defense in any potential trial of donald trump or any other person who may be charged in this case. so that's also looming behind this whole process. >> it sounds like multiagency, multilevel, multi you know, different groups looking into this. how long does this assessment
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likely take? >> typically these assessments take a long time. they could do an expedited initial one, but for example in the case of edward snowden who leaked the documents from the national security agency, there were many damage assessments in that case over a period of years and there may still be some going on. but in that case is interesting because they knew that snowden has been in moscow so they could assume that everything snowden had was exposed to russian intelligence. in this case, they don't know where these documents have been and who has seen them. >> and the justice department has a so-called filtered team looking at these documents. so the special master will be someone independent of the fbi that would look into these same documents? >> yes, jose. the trump team is asking for a court appointed person to basically do the same thing that the filter team is doing.
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this is a person who has been agreed upon by both parties to sift through these documents and separate this out. it's unusual at this stage because by this point, the department of justice has likely already gone through these documents and in addition, it's a little odd because the trump lawyers have also asked for an itemized, more specific list of items that were taken from the property and in order to do that, the department of justice obviously has to go through everything. one thing that's important to note is it appears that the trump lawyers have asked for the court in this case to exercise what's called equitable jurisdiction. a way in which the court comes and looks at the fairness to both parties and honestly, because they've been so late in making this request, the unfairness would really be to the department of justice because it would delay many of
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these next steps they're taking including potentially this damage assessment that ken just described. so it will be really interesting to see what arguments the department of justice makes in response to the trump team's request. >> and as far as a special master with the information involved being so sensitive, what kind of person, if one is appointed, would that person have to be? >> well, that person would have to have a security clearance. so say they ask a retired judge to do this. then that person would have to get a clearance in order to review this information. i would say it's unlikely that the classified information, what the trump team is asking for is for the privileged documents to be sifted out. this would be i guess attorney client privilege, which is not clear why that would be in this mix. or documents that may implicate
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executive privilege, which trump doesn't have, but this is his go-to argument. i don't think the classified material would necessarily fall into those categories. these are intelligence reports by agencies disseminated. so they wouldn't fall into this category, but obviously to go through it, the special master, if one were appointed, would still need to have the clearance because they would encounter those documents in the process. >> david, there are so many classified documents. i mean, 184 in one batch and more than 100 on the 8th of august. i'm just wondering for like perspective, what's happened to people who have been accused in the past of mishandling or taking sensitive secrets? >> first of all, you're right. there's nothing on this scale. the most recent case like this
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was david petraeus. he shared documents with a journalist and admitted to that and had a misdemeanor charge. another was sandy berger. he put a, he literally put documents in his socks. not sure if i'm remembering this correctly, but from a presidential archive for some, i think a book he was working on. again, he pled to misdemeanors. there was a state department official who received some jail time. that person had large numbers of files they kept in their basements. but what's so unusual is that no president has done anything even approaching this since richard nixon and it was the reason this act was enforced was that nixon you know refused to turn over the tapes from the oval office and other records and he lost decisively in the supreme court. 7-2 decisions. so that's what's so
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extraordinary about this whole unprecedented situation. >> yeah, i mean, there's nothing to look back on and say well, look, this is what former president did or didn't do related somewhat to this, but there is no case where a former president has done something in any way similar to this as far as you know, mishandling sensitive secrets. >> that's absolutely correct. and it's charged because there's also never been a first term president who it seems is potentially running again for the presidency who's in this situation and i think the request for the special master is just again you know, again say what you want about donald trump. he's extremely good at messaging. very good at trying to paint himself as a victim of a deep state conspiracy. i agree with what ken and asha said. there's really not a need for a special master, but he's trying
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to create doubt that things were taken that shouldn't have been taken, the fbi's rifling through his personal belongings so this outside person is needed. i think there should be a special master. i think there should be as much transparency as possible. that's the best way to counter these false claims and conspiracy theory that is trump very effectively spreads. i'm worried many people will now see the fbi and the justice department and even judges as politically biased. >> david, asha, ron, and ken, thank you so much very much. up team of u.n. inspectors will go to ukraine this week to visit the eastern plant that's been shelved. the warnings about a radiation leak and what the inspectors are planning to do. plus, a state of emergency in mississippi as residents brace for more flooding. we'll be going to jackson ahead.
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ukrainian forces have started a counteroffensive in kherson. this comes as inspector rs headed to ukraine to assess the damage done to europe's biggest nuclear facility amid fears of a potential leak. the plant was captured by russians in early days after the war and now ukraine is accusing russia of new attacks of towns near the plant. ukrainians are still haunted by the worst nuclear disaster ever. chernobyl in 1986. they've been receiving iodine tablets in case there's radiation leak. joining us is megan fitzgerald
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in odesa, ukraine. what do we know about this counteroffensive by the ukrainians? >> reporter: you know, jose, this is something that we have been anticipating and we've been seeing hints of that over the last several weeks. you know there was a lot of attacks that the ukrainians took responsibility for in crimea. that was critical because that was one of the many hubs where russia has and where they put a will the of their military equipment. so we are now starting to learn more about this counteroffensive that's taking place here. but another big headline here as you referenced is the fact we are now going to see a team of scientists making their way to this zaporizhzhia power plant and this is a critical mission because we know that there's been increased shelling in the area. we saw it today, over the weekend. just a couple of days ago, we saw shelling create a fire which knocked this plant off the grid for the first time in its
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history according to ukrainian officials. that was a big deal because it used this back up generator that runs on diesel fuel and the big question was how much of a supply of fuel do the russians have inside that plant were this to happen again. we know when they make their way inside the plant, they'll be looking at everything from the structural integrity, they'll be looking at the damage that's been happening because of the shelling. but they're also going to be speaking with employees inside. we also know that it's possible the russians would be covering up things. will the people they speak to have the liberty to speak freely? these are the questions we don't know. also, the questions are when the inspectors leave, as you know, anything is possible. these inspectors don't have the authority to tell the russians to demilitaryize this area and they don't have the ability to stop the shelling in and around
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this plant. so all eyes are going to be on this visit, but certainly when these inspectors leave, what happens in the days after that. jose? >> it's got to be so concerning that the shelling is still going on. it seems like there are a lot of places you could be shelling, but around a nuclear power plant, is that probably the smartest on any count? even war is the most illogical thing in the world, but then add to this, by a nuclear power plant. the ukrainians remember very well what happened in 1986 in chernobyl when the russians were in charge of the nuclear power plants in ukraine and throughout much of eastern europe. how are they coping with the fear of something happening there now? >> jose, it's a great question. you're talking about a country where people are on edge already for their lives because of this ongoing war that's going on. the shelling that continues to
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happen and now they're concerned about possible radiation leak. so the ukrainians said they're not taking any chances. they have already distributed these iodine tablets in the surrounding area, don't take them yet, but in the event that there is a leak, they will be ready to take them at any moment and the ukrainians say they're monitoring the levels closely. right now, everything is fine but we know that can change at any moment because as we said, this shelling continues. earlier today, over the weekend. and you know, the russians are blaming the ukrainians here. the ukrainians are blaming the russians, but it's the people that are living around that area who are constantly on edge for their own safety, jose. >> yeah. i'll tell you. you know, having the people that were dealing with chernobyl in '86 still around, you've got to be worried either way. i thank you so much for being with us from odesa this morning. up next, kids across the country head back to school
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the mayor of jackson, mississippi, is warning residents to quote, get out now, ahead of possibility of more flooding. the resident told nbc news the last time the river crested in 2020, her home flooded with two feet of water. >> lost pretty much everything i had. just don't want to keep going through this same cycle. >> and now the governor of mississippi has declared a state of emergency in preparation. in kentucky, schools in the eastern part of the state that were devastated by deadly flooding this month are reopening. today is the first day of school for students who were supposed to return to class earlier this month. flooding damage has been so severe in some places and officials have not been able to say when school will begin.
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good morning. what are you seeing where you are? >> reporter: hey, jose. good morning. yeah, i'm here in kentucky where school has resumed and right now, we're seeing classes in session and students here now. we also see damage. while school has begun here, if you look behind me, you'll see those pristine floors with the lights shines off of them. that's what they looked like before but now since the water damage, if you see right below the floors have been absolutely gutted. and a lot of this damage has stopped schools from opening. this school was supposed to start around august 11th. that start date is now today and while every school in the county has opened today, in neighboring perry county, that's not the case. two schools did not open. the reason is because the extent of damage in classrooms meant teachers could not teach. i want to show you some of the damage here. you see the floor is absolutely gutted. you can see how high the water got and you can see damage from
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humidity here. so there are obviously safety concerns for the students. you can hear the drilling. there's a lot of renovations going on and while the school has been able to open here today, that's not the case in many areas around the state. jose? >> you talked about, and we're seeing the impact on the building, and it looks like that drilling going to have to go on for some time because of the amount of damage. that's been the effect on the kids? on the students? >> yeah, jose, that's been most palpable. i think the tone has been resiliency. they're showing up for each other and their community, but there's also concern. i spoke with teachers and a guidance counselor who expressed concern about the mental health of her students, many of whom are now homeless. >> myself as a guidance counselor, my biggest concern is the anxiety and the ptsd and stress they're going to feel when they come back to school. when we started to contact students, i think that our last
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number of students who didn't have a home at all were 90 in this building. >> reporter: so the impact on students is huge. many including the principal, department of education, have expressed concerns about transportation. actually getting the students to school. but today thankfully here, they've had at least 88% of students in attendance, which is pretty impressive. >> that is really amazing and so just, you know, it's tough to even fathom how massive the amount of damage was. just seeing in the school you're at, it's such a big challenge. how are officials dealing with these challenges? >> reporter: yeah. the challenges continue to show up. we spoke with the superintendent
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of this school and they told us some of their biggest concerns. >> a lot of people came in, volunteered, made lists for them to identify the high risk kids, moving their way down. we started there and just tried to go out in the community. whether it's phone calls, doing home visits, taking food out, taking crates of clothes and cleaning supplies. anything they might need. >> reporter: so, jose, at the local level, there's been a lot of descriptions of boots on the ground. teachers called every single student. at least 800 students. and when they couldn't reach someone, they knocked on doors. on a larger level, governor bashir of kentucky has announced 212.7 million for this flooding. but it's going to be a long road to recovery. jose? >> and you know, one only can hope that officials are going to
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>> 19 children and two teachers were killed in the may 24th massacre at robb elementary school. in fresno, california, divers continue their search for a 22-year-old woman. she went missing three weeks ago. she was last seen on surveillance footage at a gas station, but the sheriff's department says her phone's last signal came from two lakes now being searched by divers. and in las vegas, a boxing champion who was on his way back after suffering a defeat, canelo alvarez, is considered one of the best boxers in the world. of his 61 matches, he's lost only two. in less than three weeks, he's facing the biggest threat of his career. the boxer known as triple g. >> how does it feel? a couple of weeks before your next fight? >> i feel great.
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[ speaking non-english ] >> she said a few months ago, the group rescued a 15-year-old girl who was still alive and being trafficked. thank you for being with us. i have to tell you, i saw this report that you did, it just gives you -- it just -- i don't know how to react to what you uncovered. women and girls disappearing every day in mexico, and you know what? they're invisible. it's like the world doesn't know and she's like no one in mexico cares. >> that's right. but, this is happening in the united states' backyard. the truth is the majority of missing people in mexico are men, but as you just said, in the last four years, there's been a spike in women. so what is at the center of this? on the one hand, what we found is that a lot of women and young
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girls are now being targeted by criminal organizations, which is a new trend because historically the cartels and criminal groups wouldn't touch women and young girls. that's now changing. at the heart of this story is human trafficking. in the last four years, human trafficking in mexico increased by 40%. we have to remember, jose, that mexico has one of the highest rates of human trafficking in the world. so, in mexico we talk to human traffickers that sort of gave us a little context as to what's happening. they call women, they lure them into jobs, they lie to them and say they'll have opportunities, they'll be able to, you know, succeed in mexico, and then for at least ten years they're then forced into prostitution. if they try to leave, many of them end up dead. that's what the human trafficker told us. in those ten years, they can't talk to their family members. that's part of the story of what's behind this crisis.
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>> we have a clip when you -- you on the cell phone talked to this person who is like a monster. let's play it. [ speaking non-english ] so if you didn't hear it, let me translate real quick. he tells you women are being lied to about the work they'll do and that he -- this is just one, he has about 200 women killed in his time. he also says the organization works hand in hand with higher
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ranks of the mexican police. paolo, first of all, i was watching that. what do you think and what are you feeling when you're on the phone with this monster who is personally responsible for the death of 200 people? >> you know, one thinks of yourself. i was thinking of my mom. i was thinking of my sister. i was thinking of my family members in mexico, i was thinking of him and i tried to get in his mind. i asked him why do you wake up every day and do this? his answer was because of the economy. i have to. i have to get by. the other question i have for him is how do you do this? the answer there was crystal clear -- it's because we can. because nothing happens. it's because there is such government impunity in mexico that there are no consequences. at the end of the day, for me, my takeaway of this story are the mothers. when the government is not doing everything they can, when this
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is a reality, these mothers who have been searching for their daughters not for three, four, five, six years, but for ten years every single day, and they wake up knowing perhaps they're dead, but they go. it's incredible. >> yeah. and immunity. the fact that 95% plus of the crimes in mexico remain unsolved. there's a reason for that. paolo, i want to applaud you. the work you're doing is -- i'm thinking of what you uncovered through the jungles, what people have to go through when they leave their country and go through the jungles to get into central america and then into mexico, to the united states, what you did uncovering just the level of cuban government repression, a 62-year plus dictatorship. you went in there when it's really just so dangerous and difficult to do. and now this.
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paolo, is there any hope for any of this to get any better? >> yeah. i'll say there's a whole team behind me that makes this happen. there is hope. the hope i see is this idea that people trust us, you included, jose, to tell these stories. they trust you because they believe there's a glimmer of hope out there. i go back to the moms i met. i met the most incredible moms who wake up every day and do this because the government is not giving them answers. and so, jose, that's -- you have to have hope if you're in journalism. you have to. >> paolo ramos, thank you very much. you give us hope that you continue to do the work that is so important and put a light on things that are often kept in the dark. thank you for being with us. that's it for this hour. i'll be back in a moment with why the government will soon no longer be providing free covid
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