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9:00 a.m. on the east coast, 6:00 a.m. out west. we have a lot to cover this hour including the latest on the investigation into the scores of documents recovered at former president trump's mar-a-lago resort and how the justice departments findings may undercut calls from team trump for an outside evaluation. also why didn't they ask for this a long time ago. this is been going on a long time. >> i know. >> also president biden will deliver a prime time address on the continued battle for the soul of the nation. this thursday we'll get a live report from the white house on what is in store. and, has the next race for the white house begins to heat up, author david priess has a reminder, that not everyone needs to run for president. that conversation is ahead. >> as we talk about joe biden having a speech about the soul of the nation. and we talk about donald trump
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and overshadowing this and talking about this, this hour, overshadowing are republican senators who are threatening violence, who are saying that republicans will riot in the streets. that republicans will commit acts of violence if donald trump is not above the law. and donald trump of course, as mark leibovich said a couple of hours ago, donald trump loved that type of talk. he's been talking about it for a decade now. the night that mitt romney lost he was talking about romney being -- having his election stolen and rigged. even tweeted a tweet about revolution in the streets, that people should go in the streets. they can't sit back and take it. and we're there now except ten years later. it is now lindsey graham saying, if you hold donald trump to the same standard that every other american is held to, in fact the
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same standard that lindsey graham would be held to, republicans are going to riot in the street. trump supporters are going to riot in the streets. it is a good -- that is a really good place to start when you look at other republicans, very concerned about how extreme, at least half of their party has become and how it is really hurting their efforts to take over the house and the senate in 2022. >> and we'll talk more in a few minutes about where the republican party is headed at this point. especially with many key republicans talking like lindsey graham, speaking still completely somehow seemingly compelled to always shell for donald trump, what that does for the party in the long run. but we'll start in ukraine. where ukrainian forces have launched a major counter offensive aimed at retaking russian occupied kherson in the south of the country. nbc news foreign correspondent
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megan fitzgerald has the latest. >> reporter: this morning, ukrainian troops are on the attack. launching a new counter offensive now underway in the south. a mission to take back the russian occupied region of kherson. which was seized at the start of the war. and new signs the operation may be working. the biden administration said russia is already being forced to redirect troops from the east to try and respond to the attacks. but russia said that the counter attack failed miserably. in his overnight address to the nation, president zelenskyy said we will drive them out to the border. if they want to survive, this is time for the russian military to flee. go home. meanwhile, that urgent mission to prevent a nuclear disaster at the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant is underway. scientists from the international atomic energy agency arrived in kyiv overnight and are expected at the power plant tomorrow. the agency said that the team will undertake urgent safeguard activities and determine if the plant is able to operate safely.
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a trip that can't happen soon enough as the white house said putin's control of the facility is strategic. >> the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant controls all of the electrical power for much of southern ukraine and even beyond. so he could hold that power hostage. >> reporter: this as fighting around the plant continues. russia once again blaming ukraine for shelling a building that stores nuclear waste as new satellite images appear to confirm holes in the roof, claims ukraine has continuously denied. >> that is meagan fitzgerald with that report. jonathan lemire, how much longer will joe biden continue to supporting ukraine and zelenskyy? obviously the u.s. has been extraordinarily important in their ability to push back against the russians. does the president still stand shoulder to shoulder with those efforts. >> i was in the room in madrid
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this summer when president biden said when asked that exact question, said as long as it takes. and we have seen no evidence that his answer has changed since then. and white house officials have suggested they will keep doing so. the defense department has had the largest investment yet to head to ukraine for weapons and for supplies. they do feel like this is an existential moment here to defend not just ukraine, but democracy itself. and they feel hopeful about ukraine's chances here of holding off russian advances. they've -- officials have told me in the last day, they think ukraine will be slow going but the counter offensive will be successful to push russia back and they want to make sure ukraine is well armed before the winter comes so they could try to hold position and launch another counter offensive with russia as the weather then turned again early next year. so they're settling in for a long fight but there is no sign of waiving from this white house. >> now to a new trist following fbi search of president trump's
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mar-a-lago home, also a, with the justice department revealing it has now completed the initial review of the documents it recovered. nbc news senior washington correspondent hallie jackson has the latest. >> reporter: a new phase this morning in the justice department's investigation into classified documents former president trump had at his mar-a-lago home. with doj lawyers confirming they've done an initial review of what was there and have identified some material that could be considered protected under attorney/client privilege. that could undermine the trump team's request to have a so-called special master do a kind of third-party review of the hundreds of pages of sensitive documents. >> there is still a need for a judge to get involved on every aspect of this. checking their assertions of privilege but also giving us fair timely access, letting us build a case for why this search warrant was not only essentially morally wrong but legally wrong. >> >> reporter: some legal experts say they may have waited
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too long to ask an if independent party to get involved. >> now that a document has been reviewed, you can't put that toothpaste back in the tube. so the reason for a special master becomes diminished. >> a special master could come to different conclusions that the doj initial review team did. with a judge set to review on that soon after suggesting last week she was inclined to point aone as trump is lashing out at fbi, demanding to be declared the rightful winner despite his defeat and calling for a new election immediately. although federal law not former officials determines federal election dates. and now new fallout for a key trump ally. senator lindsey graham facing backlash after these comments on sunday. >> if there is a prosecution of donald trump for mishandling classified information, there will be riots in the streets. >> that type of rhetoric is irresponsible. >> reporter: graham now trying to clarify. >> i reject violence.
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i'm not calling for violence. violence is not the answer. >> just threatening it could happen. thanks. nbc's hallie jackson with that report. joe, curious, this special master potentially trump's team claiming attorney/client privilege on some of these documents, they had a long time to do this, why now? why now make those claims and it almost seems like possibly they're just trying to slow things down. >> well there is certainly nothing wrong with a special master to come in, certainly nothing wrong -- >> but why now. this is been going on a long time. >> because donald trump has not surrounded himself with good lawyers. i think early on, in the process, immediately after the search, chances are good somebody from a top flight criminal law firm would immediately call for a special master. they've given the doj time to
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sort through these documents. they've taken special care. they claim in their pleadings with the court to separate those documents, any documents that may be privileged. so, it's what we've seen time and again. we've seen foot dragging. and i just want to say, hallie jackson talks about the lindsey graham comments again that we referenced earlier at the top of the hour, again, what a nightmare for mitch mcconnell. you have a united states senator telling americans that republicans are going to riot in the streets. you then have him saying, oh, he doesn't like violence, but if donald trump is not above the law, if he is held to the same standard that lindsey graham or any other senator or member of congress would be held to, or as we've seen in the past, cia directors or national security advisers who got in trouble for
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mishandling classified evidence, then lindsey said there will be violence and republican and donald trump supporters will commit acts of violence. it is just a mess. at the same time hallie is showing donald trump with his social media posting, saying he won the election. demanding a new election at once. it is absolutely chaos. he looks back two years to an election that everyone knows he lost. and he's still talking about that election. while republican candidates are out on the campaign trail, you know, what, two months away from the 2022 elections that they should be winning. instead, you've got donald trump and donald trump supporters attacking law enforcement officers, calling the fbi the gestapo, calling them communists, saying they want to defund the fbi, defund law enforcement officers. calling patriots that are in the
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law enforcement community wolves that want to devour americans. it is absolute chaos for the republican party right now and for people like mitch mcconnell, it is all bad news. because he's trying to win elections in the senate. and that is not going to happen as long as this chaos continues. let's bring in right now nyu law prefer and former special council for the department of defense, ryan is a coeditior of the national security online forum just security. would you love to ask you first of all, what do you think about the timing, the belated request for a special master by the trump legal team? >> so i do this it is part of what you said, that it is a level of incompetence. it is two weeks after the search that they finally got around to filing a motion and it was so bad that federal district judge had to ask them to redo it. so that demonstrated
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incompetence. at the same time, i think it is just an attempt to show that he's fighting back and part of a political and fundraising strategy in part. as of this date, he's not being rl served by these folks giving him this legal advice. >> so there has been underway a risk assess of the documents here. we know, not precisely what is in them but some classified and others top secret and other degrees secret. walk us through what in a means and if what they find could yield for potentially significant consequences for the former president? >> so i think it could. they are doing two types of reviews apparently. the intelligence community under the office of the director of national intelligence. one is just to reassess what the classification level should be of the information. because some of it over time, you would actually maybe down grade the classification. that is one. and then the second is what you say, damage assessment, which is triggered by their policy, they have an internal policy when
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there is a compromise, they to look at what is the actual or potential damage to u.s. national security from the compromising of the highest most well-kept secrets of the united states government. and it is interesting, in that some sense because what avril haines said said, she will conduct a potential damage. she's not saying that they're going to provide one of the actual damage, like was this and what is the actual damage to u.s. source and methods and things like that, but rather potential. which is more theoretical assessment. but i think it could be very damaging to the president because the espionage act turns on how much should the person have known that the information that they were retaining could damage u.s. national security. i think it will cross that line ten fold. but it will be important because it comes from these neutral arbitrators. >> so there was a sense when this search was first conducted
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that perhaps it would satisfy the federal government simply to retrieve these documents and that might be enough and they would say that is bad, you shouldn't have done this, but let's let this fly. and donald trump is in serious legal peril. and i won't ask you whether or not you think he's going to be indicted. but what sort of timeline do you think we're working on for when a decision like that will be made. >> i think it will be influenced by the midterm elections. the doj has a policy that they don't take any overt actions within 60 to 90 days outside of an election. donald trump is not up for elections but it will apply to him because he's such a large political figure so i don't think we'll see anything before the midterms and then it looks like they have enough information that they'll use discretionary factors to determine whether or not to indict him and then i would predict something like late november, december. >> former special council at the department of defense, ryan
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goodman, thank you very much for being on this morning. a member of the proud boys group who stormed the capitol on january 6 has been sentenced to more than four and a half years in federal prison. joshua prueit pleaded guilty in june to obstructing an official proceeding. prosecutors say he took part in a proud boys group message where members discussed plans to march to the capitol and use violence to disrupt the certification of the electoral college vote. they also say prueit was one of the first to enter several areas of the capitol during the attack and as you could here, almost came face-to-face with then senate minority leader chuck schumer. prueit apologized for his actions but said he still believed that the election was stolen. a judge has ruled that governor brian kemp must testify before a special grand jury investigating potential 2020 election
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interference in georgia. but not until after november. governor kemp has tried to avoid testifying in the probe. his lawyers argued that under georgia law, the sitting governor should not be subject to subpoenas. kemp team cited the political implications of testifying near election day. in his six-page ruling, the judge said delaying kemp testimony was the sound and prudent course, but he added once the election is over, the court expects the governor's team to promptly made arrangements for his appearance. he resisted president trump's demands to help over turn joe biden's win in georgia. he faces stacey abrams in the state's november election. >> jonathan lemire, that does seem, if you look at the doj guidelines on the federal level, about keeping investigations away from elections, on this
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state level, this does seem like a prudent course to take with the governor's own re-election, as close as it is. just wait until after the election. it takes politics a bit more out of it. and who knows, he may even testify more openly after he's either been re-elected or defeated. >> it does seem like a reasonable compromise. and the judge was clear, to the governor's attorneys, hey, don't think you're getting out of this. we'll wait until after the election, but you're still going to have to testify. you're going to need your degrees of cooperation. and we have every reason to believe that will be enforced. if that is the case, yes, that if it takes a little bit of the politics out of it and take the temperature down a little bit. right now the governor is up in the polls. we know that could change in seven weeks. but at the moment he might be afraid to say something that could perceived as alienated the trump republicans whose support he need this is november. so perhaps the thought here is
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also more willing to talk it away that would be more free to talk post election. it feels like the right decision. >> all right. still ahead, president biden turns his attention to battleground pennsylvania and the issue of public safety. nbc's peter joins us live from the white house with a preview of his remarks. plus another high level resignation from the secret service. this time from an official who made headlines after explosive testimony from the january 6 hearings. "morning joe" is back in a moment. ["only wanna be with you" by hootie & the blowfish] discover is accepted at 99% of places in the u.s. ["only wanna be with you" by hootie & the blowfish]
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24 past the hour. an assistant director at the secret service who served as a top aide in former donald trump investigation and became a central figure in the january 6 investigation has retired from the agency. tony ornato who was the deputy chief of staff at the time of the riots, left the agency after 25 years of service after two months after cassidy hutchinson testified that ornato trump was irate upon learning that his security would not take him to the capitol that day. hutchinson already testified that ornato described trump lunging at the driver of the presidential vehicle, demanding to head to the capitol. hutchinson's account has been disputed by some people familiar with the matter. in a statement to nbc news, ornato said i long planned to retire and have been planning this transition for more than a
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year. president biden will be in the critical swing state of pennsylvania today. where he is expected to argue that democrats, not republicans, are the real law and order party. highlighting that the recent violent rhetoric surrounding federal law enforcement from some members of the republican party. le also tout his administration's quote, safer america plan, which calls for increased funding and training for 100,000 new police officers. and he's expected to talk about money from the american rescue plan that local governments have used for law enforcement as well as the bipartisan gun safety law. the rift -- the visit come as head of the prime time address this thursday in pennsylvania where he's expected to lay out his argument that america's freedoms and democracy are at stake. let's bring in nbc news chief white house correspondent peter alexander. peter, give us a sense of how the president plans to frame his
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argument, especially when he speaks directly to the american public this thursday. >> reporter: yeah, that is right. so that prime time speech will take place on thursday in philadelphia. it is focused on how america's rights and freedoms are still under attack. that is a return to president biden's central message from his 2020 presidential campaign. he's delivering the speech outside of independence hall, another echo of his campaign that began with a rally in philadelphia. the president is going to focus on this continued battle for the soul of the nation. what has become his calling card, his language, arguing that the message is just as compelling and critical now with the midterm as approaching as it did acouple of years ago and it appears that strategy may be resonating. a later nbc news poll shows that threats to democracy right now is the number one issue for voters overtaking both cost of
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living and the economy. the president really is leaning floor this contrast. his speech comes after he slammed the maga philosophy and semi fascism and out of touch, and republicans bashed him for using the f-word, fascism. he promised to be a unifier they say. they say semi fascism is being too generous, as for pennsylvania, president biden is laser focuses on that state right now. key races for governor and senate, fetterman versus oz and the house and he heads to wilkes-barre and thursday and then on pittsburgh on monday for the labor day parade. that is three pennsylvania visits in seven days. >> nbc's peter alexander, thank you very much for that report. and one of this morning's must-read opinion pages comes from the pittsburgh post-gazette in a piece entitled what donald trump wants for republicans and
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why it's bad for party. page editor dave mills writes in part, quote, does donald trump care that his party takes the senate? was electability a big part of his thinking when he chose to endorse doug mastriano and mehmet oz. i have my doubts. which helps him more in 2024, a republican party taking the senate and keeping the democrats from passing their bills, or a republican party not taking the senate and letting the democrats do what they want. the worst the country does, the more people will vote to make america great again. donald trump, the political magician, performs his magic for a reason. and it is not the health and success of the republican party. it is mr. trump's own success at some point republicans might see that, but they'll be too late smart. and joe, the bottom line here is donald trump has never cared
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about the republican party. >> right. >> and many would argue he never cared about america. and many of his actions along the way, back up that premise. the only question is whether are republican going to see this doesn't end well for them. there have been many, many legitimate ways to back that up along the way. but they don't want to see it. >> no. to their detriment. >> including election losses. >> he won one election in 2016. as we've said, ten days after comey's letter, trump admitted it is the ome day he could have won the election on that sole day. and then republicans under his leadership lost elections in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, and jonathan lemire, the best really example of donald trump purposefully tanking republicans chances, i think you go back to 2020 in december and you see what he did to make sure that
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mitch mcconnell, who he hated, make sure that mitch mcconnell would not be the senate majority leader again by actually suggesting that the republicans if the state of georgia, that their vote didn't count. and now he knows that dave mccormick would have been a better candidate than mehmet oz. he knows that j.d. vance, silicon valley, san francisco guy who wouldn't do as well as say dollan or anybody else from the state of ohio. he knows that blake masters is not going to win that election. and yet, he keeps endorsing candidates he knows can't win. i think that is -- i think that op-ed is pretty brilliant. donald trump knows what he's doing and he wants republicans to keep losing so he's the only game in town for conservatives. >> he also knows that herschel walker has a turbulent
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background and lives in texas. so these are all problematic candidates that trump has blessed for this time around. and it does seem that he is, shall we say, not unhappy if he was able to keep mitch mcconnell out of power. and i think it is worth reflecting, joe, you brought it up, that pair of runoffs for the senate seats in georgia, that election happened on january 5th, mind you. of 2021, with the results coming in the morning of january 6, the hours before the riot began, that trump during that entire time, mitch mcconnell, the reason he didn't call to trump to concede that he hoped trump would stay in the gain and help him win the seats in georgia and remain majority leader. trump did not do that, he only made, one trump to georgia for a rally that he spent completely on his own grievances and false claims of election fraud and indeed suggested to those in attendance and those watching on television republicans in georgia, that, hey, this election is going to be rigged
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too, so don't bother. and those two defeats gave democrats that senate majority, which is enabled just about everything that president biden has accomplished and particularly that massive reconciliation bill passed a few weeks ago. changed the course of history, donald trump's temper tantrum then and his continuing one now may also change the balance of power in the senate. >> all right. our next guest said just because someone has done something impressive, that doesn't mean they should run for president. we'll hear his argument about that. plus a pair of milestone home runs last night in major league baseball. we'll show them to you. "morning joe" is coming right back. republicans in congress call them "entitlements." a "ponzi scheme." the women and men i served with in combat, we earned our benefits. just like people earned their social security and medicare benefits. but republicans in congress have a plan to end so-called "entitlements" in just five years.
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♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ "shake your thang" by salt n pepa well the battle for the american league mvp is on full display. last night, yankees slugger aaron judge launching his major league leading 50th home run of the season. judge now on pace to hit 63 this year. it is just the tenth player in mlb history to record multiple 50 home run seasons and the
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numbers most yankees fans are looking at won't be bonds or maguire, it is maris's 60 and ruth's 61, aided without roids. and it was the two-run homer hit in the 5th but the angels two a star ohtani that made a difference in the l.a. 4-3 win over new york. what a guy. what a superstar this guy is. and another historic swing for retiring st. louis slugger albert pujols who hit the 694th homer of his career and last night's 13-4 win over the cincinnati reds marks a 450th different pitcher pujols has hit a hole run against breaking a tie with barry bonds and setting a new mlb record. jonathan lemire, and of course on top of this, i know you're very quited, the boston red sox
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announcing that bloom will be back next year. >> yes. the sox saying that bloom, the embattled general manager and alex cora, the manager, 2018 world series champion, will both be back next year. we're five games under .500. but back to those home runs, joe, first of all, ohtani is such a magnificent player and angels have been so bad for so long and one does help that he ends up somewhere elsewhere more of the country could enjoy him. i know some met fans that would like to see that this off-season. they have the money to spend. speaking of money to spend, it will take that much more money to keep aaron judge on the bronx and has only made himself tens of millions of more dollars. but on pujols, so he's now six home runs away from the magic 700 mark and the clock is ticking. he said he's going to retire at end of the season but it is hard to imagine if he stopped at 698 he wouldn't come back in april. 700 is the magical mark.
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only a few players have done it. but there is another number he's close to. 696 where alex rodriguez stopped and this baseball fan would love to see pew holes get ahead of a-rod. >> i wonder how you quit if you get -- if you get to 700. i mean, that number for any kid growing up playing baseball, that magic number, talking about route 60 and maris is 61, you look at ruth's 714, hank aaron, breaking it. would you think you would want to stick around to chase those legends. >> aaron was 755 and barry bonds got 762 i believe. so that is a couple of years for pujols who had showed signs of slowing down but you figure he has got to get to the 700 and
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he's beloved by the cardinals. and you have to hand it to him. >> why not. at least go for ruth's 714. >> coming up, severe weather across the south has pushed mississippi into a state of emergency. with no reliable watt they are morning for people in the capital city of jackson. we'll have the very latest on that when "morning joe" comes right back. meta portal go. look professional. ♪♪ even if you don't feel it. meta portal. the smart video calling device... - right on time! - of course. that makes work from home work for you. so, shall we get started?
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used to regard as required for public service, but now seems extraordinarily courageous, which is speaking the truth regardless of what your party thinks, we immediately start talking about a presidential run. and it is not just politics who speak up with courage. i remember because i'm old enough, michael avenatti when he was a lawyer pursuing cases against donald trump. people were promoting him to run for president against trump. i think that is really unfair to liz cheney. i think first of all your projecting on to her that, that is a motive for doing this. which i have not seen reporting to fully suggest. and number two, you're suggesting that anybody who does anything like at any level should be president. and david priess joins us now. he's a former cia intelligence officer, publisher of law fair and author of the book "the president' book of secrets", about the relationships between presidents and top secret
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intelligence. thank you for being on. i do think it is interesting, the question about liz cheney, because i think it is a compliment that many are saying maybe she should run for president. because what she did was hard. i mean, she had to make a choice that no one else in the republican party appears willing to make. so i'm just -- are you diminishing her accomplishments because the parallel with michael avenatti confused me just a little bit. >> i'm not diminishing her stance at all. in fact i'm championing it. and what adam kinzinger and liz cheney has done, they are standing for the constitution and the country before some idea of what partisanship should do. listen, liz cheney has been courageous. liz cheney has integrity. those are things we want in a president. that is absolutely true. but the point i was making is everybody who shows integrity
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over political courage need not be encouraged to run for president. we need people who uphold the core values of honesty, responsibility, respect, fairness, compassion, we need those people right now to be running for local school boards. we need those people to be election administrators. we need those people to be running library programs or running for congress. not everyone with political courage and integrity should automatically be pushed to run for the presidency. >> also, we need -- our leaders have those characteristics, a little bit of experience as joe biden is showing us now. if you look at what he's accomplished over the last two years, it doesn't hurt. we had a failed reality tv show host being president for four year and he certainly knew how to enrage people. but that was about it. barack obama obviously elected twice with over 50%. but he showed up in washington, d.c. and after a couple of weeks
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harry reid said, hey i know you're bored here, you ought to run for president. okay. you look at the people that have accomplished a great deal. biden was obviously in the senate most of his adult life. you look at bill clinton, he was governor for i think 12 years, a democratic governor in a conservative state. so he had to compromise. you look at ronald reagan, governor for eight years in a liberal state in california. you look at lbj, again extraordinarily successful legislatively. and these people all have been tested legislatively and political. it seems like that matters less and less to american voters every day. >> yeah, we've had celebrity presidents before. back in the 19th century we had a couple of presidents who were elected with less experience and they didn't necessarily do that well. so there is a lesson there. i think the core lesson here is
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that perhaps liz cheney should be president, i'm not arguing against that. in fact, i think someone with her experience and her integrity and her political courage would be much better in the presidency than somebody who has an abject lack of character. put aside policies or had you she feels about marginal tax rates or social issues. you want someone with that kind of constitution and i mean that in both sense the word, you want someone like that in the presidency. that is true. but that doesn't mean that everybody that has those characteristics needs to be president and that is coming from a guy who wrote two books about the presidency. so i fetish the presidency enough and here i'm trying to dial it back saying we want people like liz cheney in public service, in the intelligence service that i used to work in in the military in political roles from state and local to the federal, that is what we want to champion. we don't need to champion it by pushing her to the presidency
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right now. >> so, david, we want to ask you about the fbi search of mar-a-lago after the release of the redacted copy of the affidavit. you tweeted, quote, hi, it the guy who wrote the president's book of secrets, all about presidents and intelligence. this affidavit affidavit makes blatant, reckless mishandling of so much highly classified information by the former president and/or those around him is unpresidentially awful. it is awful. and he doesn't deny that he had 15 boxes of documents, possibly more. but where do you see this going? >> it's not going to a good place for the former president, that's for sure. based on you had ryan goodman on earlier, and he laid out the fundamentals quite well. you have some real issues with classified information, yes. but just with the fact that there are government documents, the documents of the american people held in trust by the u.s.
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government. those are not donald trump's papers. i don't care if they're about the former french president or they're about something else, he should not have had those after january 20th, 2021. that is something that is inescapable that. is a separate decision whether there is a prosecution. there are plenty of cases where there is evidence to prosecute somebody and a credentialed choice was not to prosecute based on mitigating circumstances. but in this case, there seems to be clear evidence based on the fact that a judge approved this rare search and seizure that there's something very serious here, and i have to note, on the classified side, as a former intelligence officer, i know people who died in service trying to get information like this. you cannot treat that material as cavalierly as this appears to have been without some potential risk. i'm glad there is a potential risk assessment going on through the office of director of national intelligence now, because literally lives could
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56 past the hour. a look now at some of the morning papers. the clarion ledger leads with the latest on the intense flooding that's devastated parts of mississippi. governor tatereeves yesterday declared an emergency in the city of jackson after the water levee failed. the anchorage daily news highlights a study that details how human driven climate change has set in motion massive ice losses in greenland. it is now inevitable that 3.5%
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of the greenland ice sheet will melt. that amounts to over 100 trillion tons of ice. researchers say the ice melt will trigger nearly a foot of global sea level rise. >> there's nothing we can do about that now. the question is, how bad does it get in the coming years? the arkansas democrat gazette say that gun companies have moved to republican held states. companies were also enticed by tax breaks and the promise of cheaper labor in red states. that does it for us this morning. jose picks up the coverage in two minutes. >> thank you so much for watching. minutes. >> thank youo smuch for watching t wasn't me by shaggy ♪
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good morning. 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. today, joe biden is in campaign mode, and headed to battleground pennsylvania, as candidates become laser focused on the midterm elections. this morning, mississippi's capital city is in crisis. thousands are without reliable running water, after a treatment plant failed. what happens next? right now, in ukraine, an
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