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democracy, maybe get dragged away by or swatting. >> mark joseph term, who's been running for us for slate, thank you so much. that's all in on this tuesday night. if you still watch him go to bed. alex wagner starts right now. good evening alex. good evening alex. i cannot imagine being so desperate to hold power that you would choose to show the vote. that literally decreasing turnout, and yet that is the bread and butter of modern conservative movement. >> a bit loosely in the work that we work in, we encounter outrageous stories. the story of these people going in being like, yeah i have a felony, and getting the card. it's really just beyond. >> it's unconscionable, but it's desantis's florida, and thank you for reporting on it, chris, good to see you. and thank you for joining us this hour, we are expecting tonight, any minute now, a filing from the doj responding
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to donald trump's lawsuit requesting that a special master review documents retrieved from his palm beach home. donald trump sued the justice department last week to stop the review of those documents, in a move many are seeing as a delay tactic. in that lawsuit, trump's lawyers claim that he always gave the government complete cooperation. the justice department has until midnight tonight to respond to those claims, and by all accounts they sure have a lot to say. yesterday, the department asked the judge permission to go beyond 20 page filing limit, and submit a 40-page response. 14 pages to trump's lawsuit. the government said it needed the extra pages to, quote, adequately address the legal and factual issues raised by trump's motion. again, that filing can come literally any moment now. that doj filing could potentially shed more light on the government's criminal investigation, and will no doubt serve as a 40-page rebuttal to donald trump's
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claims of complete cooperation. remember that one of the three crimes the justice department is investigating is obstruction, not just of an investigation, but just plain old government functions, like preserving the presidential records. there has been a lot of concern that donald trump has not been on the open up when it comes to important classified information. for example, throughout his presidency, there was a ton of reporting that trump like to rip up documents, and notes. even the national archives, confirmed that some white house records that it he he had been trying to shield from the january six committee, that those have been ripped up and taped back together again. there is even a report that trump allegedly flushed some papers down the toilet. this is not a man who is known for diligent records preservation, by a long shot. this time around, there are many lingering questions. why was he squirreling away documents at mar-a-lago in the first place? and why didn't he just handed
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documents over when the government first asked? all this shady paper shuffling and document destruction. all of that calls into mind another high profile case that is become virtually synonymous with disrupting an ongoing investigation. it involves a company called and ron, a houston-based energy company whose fraud scandal became one of the most famous high-profile cases ever, of obstruction of justice. it happened 21 years ago, and it had everything. corporate executives serving prison time, employees shredding and destroying documents. and one now defunct company caught up on a scandal. arthur anderson, enron accounting firm. >> the indictment claimed that on october 19th, enron was under investigation. soon the traders at anderson's office in barr's running nonstop for months, called an empirical effort to destroy
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evidence. chicago, portland oregon, and london. anderson's response today? defiant. in a statement, it calls the obstruction of justice star charge baseless and a gross abuse of government power. >> it took a federal jury ten days to find the accountant guilty of obstruction of justice. while the conviction was later overturned by the supreme court on a technicality. the enron and arthur andersen scandals, as well as other corporate scandals at world comment heiko. they all led congress to pass, and george w. bush to sign the star beans moxley act, that instituted a number of reforms clamping down on corporate fraud. one of those reforms was this statute. 18 u.s. code section 50 19, a title in tighten the -- any record with the intent to obstruct just about any government function, including investigations. section 15 19 is one of the three criminal statutes that the department of justice cited
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in its application for a search warrant for mark mar-a-lago, obstruction of a federal investigation so, there is an active question about well whether or not the stuff andersen and enron did 20 years ago, is akin to what donald trump has been doing with his new criminal investigation. is it the same kind of obstruction? you know, the illegal kind? >> what is clear is that donald trump certainly have some explaining to do. for starters, we learned from the unsealed search warrant documents that the justice department believed that evidence might be destroyed if the warrants existence were made public. for the fbi affidavit, there is probable cause to believe that at a evidence of obstruction would be found at mar-a-lago. the fbi affidavit explain that for months, the national archives sought to recover the documents from the former president, without success. remember, the archives didn't get those initial 15 boxes of documents until january of this year. why did it take trump so long to hand over those documents? why did one of trump's attorneys sign a statement
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telling the doj in june that, to the best of their knowledge, all classified documents have been handed over, when i was obviously not the case. why did trump allegedly not keep the remaining documents preserved in the storage room, under lock and key as instructed. certainly after that june visit from investigators. why did subpoenaed surveillance videos later show, according to the new york times, people moving boxes in and out, and appearing to change the containers some documents were held in. and why? again, after that june visit from investigators, and after months of back and forth with the doj in the national archives. why were troves of classified documents still at mar-a-lago on august 8th? and why were they in trump's office and in his bedroom, in addition to the storage room? why not just cooperate with the investigation? i want to bring in, now, the great andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel, and former senior member of special
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counsel robert mueller's investigation. he was, also, you could see him -- there he is. head of the doj's enron task force, which prosecuted arthur andersen tax form for, you guessed, it department of justice. andrew, thanks for joining me. >> nice to be here, it's obscene a photo from that many years ago. >> it's all that we're talking about department of justice and paper trading all over again. >> absolutely. one of the things that is really interesting is that the work that service actually did is really coming home now, because the law that was changed and fixed, which is 15 19, which is the law that everybody was surprised to see in the search warrant, actually fixed some of the problems that we had in prosecuting our commander. the main one, that i think is relevant here is arthur andersen, he was this anomaly and ambiguity about whether there had to be an official proceeding, at the time of the obstruction. and there is an issue there about whether the sec actually
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commence an official proceeding. here, that's not in 15 19 at all. as you correctly said, it just has to be something that the administration, that agency or department of the united states. so that fix is something the department of taking advantage of. >> it could be a fix for donald trump. let's just start with the documents that we are waiting for at this hour, right? and it pertains to all these claims about cooperation, and obstruction. the doj is going to file 40 pages of paper, warsaw responding to president trump's request for a special master. and i can ask you to tell the future, but the mere fact that they're asking the judge to double the page limit, suggests that they have a lot to say. what are you looking for? >> right, and to be clear, the judge actually ordered the department to respond to everything in a submission, and not just of the special master request.
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and then the department, and asking for the 40 pages, said that they will respond to the law and the facts. the law, i think everyone has been talking about how there is not a lot of law to support what it is the trump asking for. everyone is focusing on the facts. so as you said, the issue of donald trump saying that it was continuously cooperating, it is one that i would hope to see some reputation of that. and then the other is, what exactly happened in june of this year, at that meeting in mar-a-lago, where if you remember donald trump in his papers made it sound, and this is hyperbole on my part, but this is the best safe, and i kept it under the best lock and key. and here's an fbi agent saying, oh now i understand why is totally safe. it just didn't have the ring of truth, and it would nice to see the department taking that up, and saying this is what we say happened. >> it goes right to the heart of the matter, when we are talking about obstruction, right? did the president, was his word
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bond? and apparently it is not, because it wasn't under lock and key. it must not have been a master lock that he used, because those papers ended up all over the house. >> and i just don't think with, this department of justice and merrick garland, but these kinds of misrepresentations are going to put him in a good stead, when the department has to make the discretionary call. assuming they have enough proof to charge, the next question they have to decide is should we charge. because you don't always bring every case. having this pattern of misrepresentation to the court is really not going to be something that is a plus factor on his side of the ledger. >> i mean, you get the sense that the doj makes its voice heard through these filings, right? there is, in his filing, president trump's legal team accused the doj of political bias. in a lawsuit last week. >> politics cannot be allowed to impact the administration of
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justice, president donald trump is the clear front runner in the republican presidential primary, and in the 2024 presidential election, just a little burnishing of trump's ego in the process of all that. so, would you expected the department of justice is going to push back on that? >> no. they will take the high road on that. i think they will deal with the actual facts relevant to the issues, and not deal with his claims about how he's doing in a potential -- >> not his polling numbers in, you know, red states. [laughs] in terms of his notion that this is somehow politically motivated, would you expect them to respond to that, where in some way address it? >> i think that is something that they won't need to say. i think they will be judged by their actions, and frankly, i think one of the things that i think was really good about merrick garland speaking, and giving a press conference, is he is sort of exhibit a to, he's not political.
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i mean, he's such an earnest man, so i don't think there's anything they could say that would change anybody's mind one way or another on that. i think they will just stick to the facts on the law. >> just the facts, man. i do wonder, when we think about the lawyering of all of this. we know that evan corcoran draft, kevin corcoran one of the president's lawyers drafted a letter that christina bob signed, affirming to the justice department in june that they had all the documents that were at mar-a-lago, which later proved to be untrue. do you risk exposure there. we know that donald trump has brought on a new legal eagle to his case, chris skies, who is a former adviser to former governor ron desantis. do you think that's indicative of them being concerned about their lawyers christina bob and evan corcoran having exposure? >> well, they even have exposure or maybe be witnesses in the special counsel investigation there is an
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analogous situation where paul manafort and rick gates, the campaign manager deputy campaign manager had make recommendations to the justice department through an attorney. that attorney was totally unwitting, and clearly did not know that she was making a false representation. but chief judge hallow letters put iran on as a witness, and to ask her questions about where she got the information from. and i could definitely see the department following that. they have clear precedent from the chief judge of the city district court, and i think for those two lawyers one of the things that, if they are witnesses, they can also be council. that's one reason to bring on additional people. >> i was impressed that anybody wanted to sign on to this, case given how complicated it has been for president trump >> i think there are other reasons as well, that you might not sign on to it. i think as a friend of mine, professor mary has said, maga could be making attorneys get
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attorneys. and so that's the trend -- >> right, that's an inside lawyer joke. >> but i like it. could this not actually be -- this is a terrible way of phrasing the cut question. i will rephrase. is that possible that there is no more documents. we have additional reporting from the washington post in the new york times. mainly that the department of justice investigation isn't continuing, suggesting officials that are not done, they're not certain if they recovered everything from mar-a-lago, or elsewhere. and the archives, also, may not be finished, some archive officials believe there still might be records missing, so you, again i'm not asking you to predict the weather? >> i think there are two things to be thought about. one is if there are additional documents at mar-a-lago or in trump tower. the other is even if the physical documents have been recouped by the government, has the information been
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disseminated in some way? there are reports about certain information for instance, that is been communicated, but has any other information being communicated? that's where i think the dni the head of the intelligence community we looking very hard at that issue, to see if anyone has been told but the information containing in the documents, even if the physical documents have been brought back into the government. >> there are questions that be get more questions. andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel, and a former senior counsel robert mueller's investigation team. thank you for the lawyer. jokes appear next tonight, president biden summons -- and calling at the republican party not mincing words. >> he can't be pro law enforcement and pro insurrection. you can't be party of law and order and call the people who attack the police on january
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six patriots. you can't do it! >> we will talk live with senior biden adviser and former atlanta and mayor keisha leigh bottoms about the presidents new aggressive push to hold republicans accountable. and the doj is trying to have it both ways and to gain the internet on key issues. my money is on the internet. stay with us. net. stay with us
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republican friends in congress. don't tell me support law enforcement if you won't condemn what happened on the sixth. don't tell me! [applause] you can't do it! for god's sake, who's side are you on? who's side are you on? look, you're either on the side of a mob or the side of the police. you can't be pro law enforcement and pro insurrection. you can't be a party of law and order and call the people who attack the police on january
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6th patriots. he can't do it! >> that was president biden today on a trail and wilkes-barre, pennsylvania calling out in no uncertain terms the hypocrisy of republicans who refused to condemn the january 6th attacks. was the latest appearance of what you might call biden two point oh are dark brandon. his with his approval rating rising, and a number of significant victories in congress, and his predecessor facing serious ongoing legal drama, the president is unleashing pretty wildly pointed with tax attacks on republicans and of the midterms. last week biden likened the maga movement to some fashion-ism, and called it a threat to our very democracy. later, biden attends to have a primetime address saying american's rights are under attack by anti-american forces under the you guessed it the gop. and today the president
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hammered republicans on the recent attacks on the fbi following the search on donald trump's home. >> and now it's sickening to see the new attacks on the fbi. threatening the life of law enforcement agents and their family for simply carrying out the law and doing their job. look, i want to say this as clear as i can. there is no place in this country, no place for endangering the lives of law enforcement. no place! none, never period! i am opposed to defunding the police, i'm also opposed to defending the fbi. >> there are ten weeks until the midterm elections friends, and president biden would seem to have his eyes on the clock. joining us now is keisha lance bottoms, white house senior adviser for public engagement
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and the former mayor of atlanta. mayor bottoms, thank you for joining us and congratulations on the new position. let us just start with president biden who to borrow a phrase from the obama era seems very fired up and ready to go. i wonder if you believe amid the swirl of trump's legal problems and recently notched legislative victories if this is a real moment for him to go on the offensive in a way that we really haven't seen the president in recent months? >> well, what we know is that president biden has been fired up his entire term, but when we have the string of victories to support the work that he's been so passionate about. what we are seeing is his work in action, his leadership in action. what we talked about during the campaign was needing his leadership at this time. someone who had experience, someone who knew how to get things done with congress. and this is just the continuation. we saw him today very
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passionate about something that we should all be concerned about, and that safety in america. when you hear the president give statistics and talk about the thousands of children who have been killed by gun violence, the number one killer of children in america. he knows that history will judge us all by how we respond to this moment and i'm so proud to have seen the president respond in the way that he did today. >> certainly he's been talking about his record, but he's been launching some pretty pointed attacks against the gop, and i wonder if the white house believes this is the moment to try to turn the conversation back on republicans. look at their top of defining the fbi, and re-frame the conversation about who's better in terms of law and order. is that one of the goals of all of this? >> well what the president is doing is calling it like he sees it. he is giving facts. you can't support law enforcement and support an insurrection at the u.s.
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capital. we all witnessed that. this is not something that is an opinion, this is a fact. and what the president has said in his actions have shown that he supports law enforcement but he also supports our communities. what the president has been very clear about that we want law enforcement officers in our communities who are guardians not warriors who have care and concern for the people they are sworn to protect and serve. and the president knows at the end of the day law enforcement wants to return home safely, as well as communities wanted to return home safely to their families when they've had interaction with law enforcement. and supporting law enforcement and supporting our communities are not mutually exclusive and the president has made that very clear where he stands. when you look at the support of the american rescue funds, every single republican in congress voted against that.
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these funds went into our cities not just to support law enforcement but in cities like atlanta and communities across america, they helped us pay sanitation workers. they helped us bridge the gap in our budgets when we were facing economic uncertainty at the height of covid. so the president is continuing to remind the people of why he was elected president. it's because he puts people first and we are seeing that inaction in his policies. >> i know you are stressing the work in terms of communities support, when we are talking about law enforcement, but he did say explicitly today, i'm opposed to defunding the police, i'm also opposed to defunding the fbi. we know that there are some democrats in the party who would not agree with the, and who have said publicly they don't agree with that. is there a place for them in joe party biden's democratic party? >> that is the beauty of joe
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biden being the leader of the democratic party. there is room to respectfully disagree and what the president has been very clear about is that he supports law enforcement but also supporting communities is not mutually exclusive. i always said that when i served as mayor of atlanta, we can stop having police officers on our streets when we no longer have crime. what people have to remember that it's not just about law enforcement showing up when something bad happens, think about when you have that fender bender and you're waiting on the side of the road for three hours for police officer to show up and write a report. or if you are attending a large event and or concert, you want law enforcement in place. but also in the safe safer america plan, what the president is doing is asking for funding to help support mental health professionals who can respond instead of law enforcement when someone is experiencing a mental health crisis. drug courts, expanding drug
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courts. we know a number of people who enter the criminal justice system have substance abuse problems. making sure that there's funding in place for after school programs, making sure there is funding in place for crime intervention programs that we know have been successful in cities across america. so this is really a holistic approach. it's not just about putting officers on our streets, but really about asking congress to support programs that really get to the root causes of crime in our communities. >> let me ask you just one more question. it's not going unnoticed that this is the president's third trip to pennsylvania. we'll be making three trips to pennsylvania in the next week. it bears mentioning that john fetterman, the democratic senate candidate is leading doctor mehmet oz by 13 points. josh shapiro running for governor on the democratic side, leading doug mastery auto by 11 points. one if we can expect president
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biden to allocate is very big resources as president of the united states to ones that a little closer, like ones in your state, the one between raphael warnock and her show walker, which i believe has a two point spread, well within the margin of error. is he gonna go down to atlanta? well, i think what you will see is that it will go wherever he is needed and wanted, and we know pennsylvania is home for the president. so it's very familiar territory to him, and he's always happy to go there. but the president is watching closely what's happening across the country, and what we know, with the support of congress, president biden has been able to get things done. and he will continue to remind people that, elections matter. with the support of congress, we've been able to get funding into our cities, with a support of congress, and with bipartisan support. we were able to sign some of the toughest gun legislation in the last 30 years, and the
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president is calling for more. an ban on assault weapons. so the president wants people who want to work with him to get things done on the behalf of the american people. if that means going to georgia or pennsylvania to the that, i'm sure we'll see more of him in many, many places. >> we will be on the lookout for the travel itinerary, keisha lance bottom -- thanks so much for joining us tonight. >> still ahead, the politics of abortion get very real for republican politicians and activists, as they realize their views are wildly popular, we will be right back. l be right back.
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politics when a one, is that when you try to win a primary race, you campaign to your base, the people whom tend to be more ideologically focused and near or average american voter. if you make it through to the general election, you soften edges and campaigned towards a more elusive middle. that is the conventional wisdom at least, and we are watching exactly like that play out in any number of races this cycle. four republican candidates in particular, especially those
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that pledged allegiance to donald trump in order to get their party's nomination. for example, the republican candidate who is running to unseat mark kelly of arizona, it's this guy, blake masters. he's a 36-year-old venture capitalist, and protegee of billionaire trump supporter and right-wing kingmaker peter thiel. since masters won his party's endorsement earlier this month, he's been systematically trying to rewrite history in terms of what he stands for. but unfortunately for blake masters, the internet is sometimes forever, the most recent example of, this published late last night by cnn's kfile compares a current version of lake masters campaign website with the one that existed just a day before he won his primary election. his website used to have the following language, quote, the 2020 election was a rotten mess, if we had had a free and fair election, president trump would be sitting in the oval office today, and america would be so much better off.
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all that has now been deleted by mr. master's website. the stuff about the election being iran must not somehow free and fair, gone. and then there is his position on abortion. nbc news was the first to point out the masters, quote, south and his rhetoric, rewriting or raising five of his six positions. including this one. i am 100% pro-life. or at least, that's what it said last thursday morning, because that language is to now, , gone. as is his support for a federal person had law, ideally a constitutional amendment that recognizes that on board and babies are human beings that may not be killed. the sort of politically convenient amnesia, or a strategic deletion frenzy is sweeping the gop. over michigan, detroit news reported this weekend that republican state senator who is running for congress, a man in tom air, removed a section from his website under the heading values. we will refrain from commenting
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there. you can see what it used to be there, courtesy of the internet archives way back machine. quote, i am a christian and i believe our elected leaders have a responsibility to represent the values that our faith teaches, protecting individual rights includes protecting the unborn. i will always work to protect life from conception. barrett told the detroit news that he hasn't actually changed how it feels about abortion, which based on previous statements means that he's against abortion even for rape or incest. he said, i'm sure we are probably updating things based on the issues that we're most salient right now. i'm. i can think of another reason why his abortion values were erased. in 2022, the politics of abortion are terrible for republicans. since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade in june, democratic voters have been awoken, and they are enraged and galvanized, which maybe helps to explain why certain
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groups in michigan are working extra hard to get a citizen-led ballot initiative off of the michigan ballots this november. because, if it passes, that ballot measure would in shrine the right to abortion in michigan's constitution, and that's the sort of stuff you can erase or delete very easily. but, it's not on the ballot yet. the coalition behind the initiative, spent months gathering signatures to put the measure on the november ballot. and so far they've passed one major hurdle, by collecting nearly twice as many valid signatures as required to get that petition certified. the next hurdle comes tomorrow, in the state board of canvassers the needs to vote on whether or not to actually put this thing on the ballot, and let michigan voters have their say on reproductive choice. but, a group is now challenging the way that ballot initiative is formatted. it's saying there aren't enough spaces, or the spaces aren't big enough for some of the
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words, and it's resulting from what they call it incomprehensible argy-bargy. here's an example of what they mean. when line of the proposed tax does kind of look like it's all one word, decisions about all matters related to pregnancy, including and not limited to prenatal care, childbirth, and postpartum care. it's kind of taped, this space in their. what happens now? hundreds of thousands of michiganders have signed a petition saying we'd like a chance to weigh in on abortion that september. now the 11th hour they may be denied that chance because of formatting areas? according to an election lawyer, and former chair of the michigan democratic party, quote, non material changes can be made. which is good, right? you think that republicans, who have spent the last few weeks making very material changes to -- a lot of things, you think they of all people would understand. stay tuned. stay tuned
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water in jackson mississippi, cars lined up for miles outside distribution centers full of locals hoping for water, who left empty-handed after the supply quickly ran out. >> the water that they're giving, you can get to it because the line is so long. >> for weeks, jackson residents have been under a boil water notice put in place last month because of contaminated water
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concerns. now they are on the brink of having no water at all. state officials say floodwater complications impacted storage tanks, pumps, and water flow, resulting in a failure at jackson's main plant. >> the lack of water was due to a lack of pressure in the system. >> the water is not to safe to drink, and i'd say it's not safe to brush your teeth with. >> that is all happening right now. but as far back as hundred years ago, the leaders of jackson, mississippi, we're worried about water infrastructure in that city. this is a headline from the local paper in 1922. jackson's great growth develops a new problem. a population boom had pushed the city's water treatment plant to the limit. as the city of jackson grew and expanded, the problems with that city's water supply only got worse. but to truly understand how mississippi's capital city found itself at the water supply that has been pushed way past the brink, it is worth looking at what happened in the october of 1969.
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by that point, it was already the law of the land that racial segregation of children in public schools was unconstitutional. that have been decided 15 years earlier by the supreme court in brown versus the board of education. but mississippi had defied the court, keeping its schools completely segregated until 1969, when the supreme court essentially had to come back and say, mississippi, do it now. at that point, the high court came out and said that continued operation of racially segregated schools under the standard of all deliberate speed is no longer constant constitutionally permissible. in other words, integrated mediately. white parents and jackson were so upset by this ruling, and about the potential for their children to attend school with black children, but they packed a city auditorium to attend a raucous rally and air their grievances. the governor at the time, who was himself a staunch segregationist, he was so worried about parents becoming violent, that he called for restraint. saying quote, let's remember
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that the public schools, after, all are still public property, and willful damage or destruction of these properties is senseless. it's like cutting off nose to spite the face. that anger among my parents did not ultimately stop school integration. but it did drastically change the city of jackson mississippi. it is estimated that in the three years after jackson schools were integrated, more than 11,000 white students left jackson school district. and with them also left many of the white, wealthy taxpayers who moved just outside the city, hold while jackson's water infrastructure continue to deteriorate and the fight for who's gonna take four for it, well that fight continues to this day. jackson was left with outdated subpar pipes and no money for a long term structural overhaul. over the decades it's only gotten worse, which brings us today, august 30th, 2022 and a complete system breakdown triggered by heavy flooding,
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with raw untreated water flowing through jackson's taps, unfit for drinking. people in a city are now stocking up on bottled water, so they can do the most basic everyday things, like koch and bay themselves. meanwhile, jackson's public schools are being forced to hold virtual classes, once more impacting the education of young children in a critical moment following the pandemic. it is all very very bad, but it is a crisis, a total system failure, that has been decades in the making. joining us now is blush on the lamb, write a jackson native, she's also the executive director of one voice mississippi, and state policy advocacy organization. miss lambert, thanks so much for being here tonight, i can only imagine what life is like for the residents of jackson, mississippi. can you tell us how people have been surviving without running water in the united states of america, in the year 2022. >> it's been really, really
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tough for us here in jackson. it's unimaginable to think about waking up every morning, and not being able to take a shower, or having to use bottled water to brush your teeth, and having to use bottled water to wash dishes and to cook with. and to even provide world bottled water to your pets because they can't drink the water that is being used, coming out at the facets. but it's been really tough on us here. and to imagine that we just went through this last year, and we haven't resolve this issue yet, is very discouraging for us here. >> yeah, i think it bears mentioning this is happened one spot for. the problems that hand they are
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even worse than they were a year ago, but it doesn't give a long long term solution hope here. what resources are available to people, and are advocates working to try to solve this problem with local leaders? i mean, is there any sense that this problem is going to debate anytime soon? >> we are very hopeful, that with federal funding, we can fix this problem. as an advocate in jackson, because i have to start with, i listen to your history of jackson and i was born there in jackson in 1943. i've seen jackson go through a lot of changes, and i've been very hopeful jackson here, and going to college here. and seen a city grow and also
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seeing people leave the city, and seeing people not invest in the city. and seeing people leave the city and say, i'm not going to leave my business here, and i'm not going to support the school system here. and so i've seen people this invest in the city. so i know that with federal funding, and state funding, we could've had this problem solved years ago. and i've seen our city leadership attempt to fix this problem, over the years. that this problem has taken so long to get to this point. this problem, like you said, has taken 100 years to get to this point. this is not an overnight problem. >> yeah, i mean, we have to leave it there. we will continue our coverage of this it bears mentioning
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that the republican governor of the state is the person who controls some of these purse strings. there is an enormous amount of money for a huge problem. what's happening in jackson is untenable, it's un-american that people have to live like this. nsombi lambright, executive director of one vice mississippi, good luck, keep us posted on everything down there. >> thank you so much. >> we have one more story tonight, compare someone suburban school district are challenging a new state law, and fighting the encroachment of christian nationalism in public schools in the process. stay with us. stay with us mom: hey! cheap flight alert! daughter: hawaii! can we go? dad: maybe. i'll put a request in monday. sfx: shattering glass. theme song: unnecessary action hero! dad: was that necessary? unnecessary action hero: no. neither is missing this deal. with paycom, vacation is yours to manage. unnecessary action hero: not to mention benefits, scheduling, payroll. it's hr in the palm of your hand.
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get these excited to get them donated, courtesy of a company called pitcher mobile we talked about them recently on the show, very crystal nationalists mobile phone company, responsible for pumping money into school races, in order to retake schools from woke liberals. adrian mobile successfully won majorities and for school districts and suburban fort worth. after the far-right company donated those in god we trust signs this week. some parents and activists were a little bit concerned and got creative. they press decided to present their own science to the school board, within god we trust translated into arabic, and against a backdrop of gay pride colors. they look a little different than the patron signs. the man you see here, chauvin krishnan is a parent whose kids
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go to school in that district. at a board meeting yesterday, he asked the school board to accept this donation of these new posters. the school war didn't even less him finish before interrupting him with a flat out denial. their reasoning was that they had already met their so-called quota for in ghana we trust signs. who knew there was a quota? apparently no one, because there isn't actually a quota, mr. krishna went on to argue that nowhere in the law does it say that schools are limited to one sign per school the school board can, it seems, except these signs even written in arabic and with rainbow colors, but it refuses to which raises a new and very legitimate question, is that against the law? mr. critic told us that he and his fellow parents and activists are exploring their legal options, and may in time find out, and we intern are definitely etiquette there on this. that you can trust, that does it for us tonight, now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell, good evening lawrence. good evening alex and of course we are awai

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