tv Chris Jansing Reports MSNBC August 31, 2022 10:00am-11:00am PDT
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♪♪ ♪♪ good afternoon, i'm lindsey reiser in for chris jansing. as we come on the air the legal pressure on former donald trump is hit ago new level with wide implications. all because of that doj bombshell that dropped just before midnight. now his defense team faces an imminent deadline to respond. and this photo right here tells a story, it's the first glimpse inside mar-a-lago where agents found these top secret documents and it shows clearly how this highly sensitive information was labeled with gold red font. the photo is part of that new 36-page doj filing about the former president's handling of highly classified material. it lays out the actions the doj says the trump team took to withhold subpoenaed information. in total more than 100 classified records were seized in the search, including
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information classified at the highest levels. for context that's more than twice the amount that had been handed over in june after a grand jury subpoena. some documents were so sensitive government officials needed a higher level of security clearance just to review them. the doj says government records were likely concealed and removed and that efforts were likely taken to obstruct the government's investigation. we will find out what that could mean and why those seized passports may actually be relevant after all. here is what we don't know at this hour, how will trump's team respond? they have until 8:00 p.m. tonight and how will the judge rule after that special master hearing tomorrow? the doj says a special master would, quote, significantly harm important governmental interests, including national security interests. we will dig into all of that and more with our team of reporters and analysts. let's bring in nbc's julie ainsley former u.s. attorney barbara mcquaid, nbc's tom winter and former brooklyn prosecutor charles coleman. barbara and charles are also
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both msnbc legal analysts. tom, let's dig into the filing first. it says some of the documents were so sensitive even the fbi counterintelligence personnel and doj attorneys conducting the review required additional clearances before they were even permitted to review certain documents. tell us more. >> the fbi counterintelligence agents typically have the highest levels of clearance that they need to conduct their job. they are investigating potential violations of laws that pertains to the u.s.'s national secrets, so that's a significant part of this filing last night. it doesn't mean that there is a level beyond, say, top secret, it just moons that certain information that's contained within the u.s. government, either defense information, some of our top secrets, some of our best intelligence is specifically kept away interest most of the intelligence community and is kept to a limited amount of people. so we see sci, with he see special access programs. basically these things are for only the people that need to
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know about them and of course the president can be briefed. so it's not surprising that they would need additional clearances when we are talking about some of the types of information that you saw in that picture that you showed us when we started the show, which is sci-type level information, this is stuff that is not able to be accessed just by anybody that has a clearance, it is really closely held. it is a significant secret and i think significant that the department of justice, rather, included it in its filing last night. >> barbara, i want to go to you because attorney general merrick garland has said the doj would speak through briefs and speak through filings. is this a good example of what he meant and i also want to ask you what was most significant to you in the filing as well? >> yeah, so as merrick garland has said doj speaks through its filings. if they had had their druthers i think no one would know that there even was a search conducted at mar-a-lago. it was trump himself who went so public with it and then filed this motion for appointment of a special master. okay, have it your way.
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you want to fight? we will file in court what we have found. so in this 40-page filing they have laid out a lot of facts that are particularly damning. some of the things that stood out to me are the items found in what's known as the 45 office. this is former president trump's personal office. so they talked about documents that were stored in a storage room, but what they found were in a drawer all the documents, those are the ones the subject of the photo, which the fbi laid out, they weren't stored that way, they found them in a desk drawer and in the same desk drawer is where they found former president donald trump's passports. that evidence is very significant because it tends to show that he personally was handling these things. i think there could be some defense where he will blame his underlings or his lawyers, i'm a busy man, i didn't know what was going on, i left it to others to deal with but finding it in a desk drawer in his personal office next to his passport i think will make it difficult for him to blame others for the
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improper and unauthorized possession of these documents. >> charles, pick up on that. the filing says three classified documents were not located in boxes but were rather located in the desks of trump's 45 office. so what's the significance of mentioning that these were found in his desk? >> i think barbara's point is exactly right. one of the things that we've seen from donald trump is the consistency around the defense of i didn't know or it wasn't me. i think that when you talk about having such a personal item like a passport directly connected to these documents in your personal office it really casts complete doubt over any sort of defense that he might try to wage, even via his lawyers along those lines. i also think that in building a case if you are talking about the eventual indictment and prosecution these are the types of things that go beyond probable cause and begin to eliminate reasonable doubt. so it's what you would do if you were trying to establish a case at trial in front of a jury or even in front of a judge to actually show not only that there was intentional action but that there was the necessary
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mental state in order to effect the crimes that you are accused of. >> you touched on this so quickly i want to go to it. there was a tweet from andrew wiseman and he tweeted doj big picture, you don't make a filing this strong, bold and factually accusatory if you don't have intention to indict. do you agree? >> i do tend to agree. i think what we've been seeing from the doj is a very methodical, very deliberate and intentional procession of building this case in the public -- in the public view, but there's been a lot more going on behind closed doors. and i would say, lindsey, i'm not sure that this is it. i think that there is possibly more that's being built that we are not necessarily seeing because that's how investigations go. very quickly i just want to point out it's unusual that we would have learned as much as we already know but for investigative reporting and court filings this early and at this stage in the investigation. affidavits, search warrants, things of that nature only come out in most cases after an indictment has been filed. so i say that to say please be
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mindful and remember there's still an investigation that's going on. so this very well may just be the tip of the iceberg. >> you are nodding. >> yeah, i mean, i'm nodding particularly on the point that we may not snow what is entirely going on here because you've got approximately 21 pages that are redacted in full or in part from that search warrant affidavit that we saw last week so we really are missing huge chunks of this investigation. i appreciate the shout out to investigative reporting but what is so unusual to this case is that so much of it is public. to your point we typically don't see these search warrants, sometimes we don't -- in these high profile cases -- don't see them until after the case is adjudicated, someone is found guilty, they're sentenced or the case is over. to get this amount of information this soon, before people take it that this is an effort to tarnish the former president, no, there are legal ways that we can, members of the press including this news organization can request more information, can file for t we've done that. but because of this fight that you laid out and the fact -- you
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know, charles, i'm surprised here they didn't go for rule 41 motion to try to be able to really stop this search warrant and the review of those materials in its tracks. the trump team took a while to file this, they filed the lawsuit and they included a lot of other things that don't necessarily attack the premise of this search warrant and i think that might be one of the reasons -- curious whether you agree or disagree -- that we saw such a strong filing last night that contained a lot of facts that seemed to attack the assertions from the trump attorneys. >> would you like to address that? >> i would. i think when you are looking at where the trump organization or the trump defense team is headed here, one of the things that they're focused on is first and foremost figuring out what's going to be the biggest delay tactic and i don't think that a rule 41 motion in this instance would have worked because ultimately they understand that the doj has done homework and before they even got to the point of seeking this affidavit -- remember, there's a
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timeline that led up to them seeking affidavit -- >> without a doubt. >> -- of actually trying to get this information in a very peaceful and regular manner and they ignored that timeline. so the notion of having that stand in the way of being a road block to any procession probably would not bode well even with the trump-appointed judge. they are looking at the notion of let me see if i can throw this special master into the mix, potentially attack from the special master says or attack who selected the special master. there are a lot of different delay tactics that i see them having lined up and i don't think that that was the strongest one. >> any way to step on the brakes. >> absolutely. >> before we go to the special master with julia, barbara, i want to point to you. this morning trump posted to his truth social network criticizing the fbi for taking a photo of the classified documents that we showed at the top of the hour and he wrote, thought they wanted to keep them -- thought they wanted them kept secret. luckily i declassified. barbara in the filing the doj hit on that declassification
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claim, it says when producing the documents neither counsel nor the custodian asserted that the former president had declassified the documents. this strikes to the mart heart of trump's claims. talk to me what you make of those and the doj's response. >> the fact that these claims of declassification were not asserted in all of the communications that the trump lawyers were having with the archives for that whole time in 2021 and even the early part of 2022 and it doesn't come up until it looks like maybe he is in some trouble tends to suggest that it is fabricated, after the fact, inconsistent with their prior statements. i will also note it is a ridiculous claim. he's caught red handed with documents in his desk drawer so the only way to put out the fire is to say i already put it out. it's ridiculous to think that he could just sum airily declassify
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documents related to overseas. it makes him open to foia, it's ridiculous and giving him a talking point to people who are out there. it will never fly in court but perhaps it gives his supporters something to talk about. >> charles? >> the most telling issue on this declassification conversation came from the letter that was attached to the affidavit from the fbi. in that letter that was from trump's attorneys to the doj. in that letter trump's attorneys lay out whatever the perceived powers of declassification are for the president but they never said that he actually declassified anything. any lawyer worth their salt is going to lay out if that is the case he's declassified x, y, z, a, b, c, and they didn't say anything of that. they did not identify a single document in that letter. not to mention that the statutes governing where the search warrant came from in terms of the crimes that he is accused of committing, they did not have anything to do with declassification. declassification does not cover
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what the search warrant is at its core, at its found igs. it's completely irrelevant. that conversation is a red herring and meant to distract people from the actual narrative of what donald trump has done in this situation. >> we have been talking about the special master. i want to get julia into this conversation. this filing was made this response to trump's request to appoint that special master. julia, where does that request stand right now? >> we're going to hear tonight from the trump legal team as they try to rebut what is now this definitive rebuttal from the justice department in their request for the special master. we expect the trump legal team probably to do a much shorter response, that's usually what you would see in a response like this, but for them to try to make the case that they still think a special master is necessary. and then tomorrow we will hear from judge canon, we will see as she hears from the two sides in a hearing at 1:00 p.m. eastern in the southern district of florida about their case for the
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special master, but certainly, you know, the justice department has made no -- it's not confusing at all where they think that this should land. they went as far as they possibly could asking for nearly double the page limit in order to make their argument. there's nothing fuzzy for them here at all, in fact, i think the trump legal team will probably have a hard time responding to this because they went after so many of their arguments, the fact that they've already gone through this with a filter team, that it would be a step backwards. not only that but it could be damaging to an ongoing investigation and to national security. so even though this judge, a trump-appointed judge already hinted that she is, in fact, inclined to appoint a special master in this case, she now has a much higher hill to climb if she does indeed go through what that and we may get an indication tomorrow of where she stands. but it's going to be hard for her now to realize that she would actually be turning back the clock.
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they are already done with the filtering, turning things over to investigators who are going to investigate what's in these documents, they are also talking to the director of national intelligence to figure out what damage there may have been to u.s. intelligence around the world. for a judge to come in now and this request came in so far after the initial search and after the documents were taken for her to come in now she really would be leaving a big mark on this case. so it's a much bigger gamble if she's really going to follow through on that. >> tom, last question to you, barbara has touched on t but talk to me about the relevance of trump's passports as indicate bd think new filing. >> initially trump said, look, they took my passports, that's not part of some sort of classified search but the justice department says in a footnote, we always know to read footnotes, prots kurts put them in for a reason. they say, not so fast. they say that the government seized the contents of a desk drawer that contained classified documents and government records commingled with other documents, some of those documents were his passports. they say the location of the
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passports is relevant evidence in an investigation of unauthorized retention and mishandling of national defense information, nonetheless the government decided to return those passports in its discretion. they're saying, no, we didn't accidentally pick these things up. we found it was relevant and important that his passports were in the same drawer that classified documents were. >> all right. we covered a lot of ground. tom, charles, my thanks to you. barbara and julia, thank you as well for joining us. appreciate it. coming up, on the trail, on message and rallying voters. my next guest's latest headline puts it this way, quote, biden dodges the august curse. so what's next for the president? with a big primetime speech a little more than 24 hours away. plus, a dangerous water crisis, water covers yards in mississippi, but tens of thousands of people have no safe water to drink right now. it's not the first time it's happened. so what's the plan to get people the water they need. >> we have had to boil water to cook torques wash dishes, you
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president biden is about to kick off the first day of september with a primetime address in front of an independence hall in philadelphia. the topic, the battle for the soul of our nation. it's a message biden has leaned on before and is hoping will work again. ahead of the midterm elections the president is trying to draw a contrast between democrats and the extreme wing of the republican party, even trying to flip the gop script on crime with this direct message to maga republicans. >> let me say this to my maga republican friends in congress, don't tell me you support law enforcement if you won't condemn what happened on the 6th. >> you can't be a party of law and order and call the people who attacked the police on january 6th patriots. you can't do it.
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what are we teaching our children? it's just that simple. >> i want to bring in nbc white house correspondent mike memoli who is in philadelphia and "politico" white house bureau chief and host of "way too early" jonathan lemire. mike, first to you. what should we look out for in the president's speech tomorrow? >> well, lindsey, this is a speech that the president has been building towards for some time and he's been testing out some of the themes and lines that we might hear tomorrow in some of his recent events. we saw it last week in maryland where he talked about the republicans, these extreme maga republicans amz he calls them as embracing political violence and not supporting democracy itself. yesterday you played some of that message yesterday talking about the idea of republicans not living up to their law and order bona fides. he also had a moment where he sort of ad-libbed to say, my goodness, whose side are you on? i think, lindsey, you know sometimes the venue is part of the message tanned that's
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certainly the case tomorrow night when the president will be speaking outside of independence hall here where the declaration of independence is signed. i say the president has been working toward this speech for some time, really it's a continuation of the message that launched his candidacy and i think the president is trying to ask whose side are you on to the american people at this moment. the president trying to put himself on the right side of this history in a moment where the white house says he believes our very democracy, the fundamental rights we have all held dear for so long are at risk here. this is not necessarily just a message about the former president, donald trump. this is one about the party that he now continues to hold a long shadow over and what obviously with the midterms approaching is one that voters will have to decide between in the months ahead. >> so, jonathan, how does the president make his message resonate at a time of hyper partisanship when this address could be seen as pure politics? >> undoubtedly a number of republicans will accuse the president of doing just that,
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playing politics, but i think for the white house they indeed will be making a stark contrast between a party that they say getting things done, democrats, they will point to rather impressive legislative record from this summer, culminating with that reconciliation bill of a couple weeks ago and then these republicans who they will paint as out of touch with mainstream americans, too extreme on issues like abortion, on guns, on, as we heard from the president yesterday, support for law enforcement. i think tomorrow night even the idea of the american democracy itself. that they are siding with january 6th rioters rather than the idea of protecting the vote and the institutions that protect it. so i think we ever' going to hear that from the president. i think we will also -- they are keenly aware that recent polling looks good for democrats. the president's poll numbers themselves have gone up a few points but democrats in certain key senate races and generic congressional races all up, it
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does seem like independents right now breaking their way. that far more than republicans, that's the audience tomorrow as the midterm season enters a stretch run with labor day on the horizon. talking to the small margins who often decide elections that's who president biden is tailoring his message towards. >> jonathan, tomorrow is the start of a new month and you write president biden dodged the august curse. so how did he get here and what does the white house plan to do to keep the streak going? >> august we tend to -- we used to tend to associate as sort of the summer doldrums, the slow month, a lot of vacations, that's not been the case for presidents over the last decader or so. president obama was bedeviled with a tough august because of situations in afghanistan, the budget deal that almost shut down the government and created a debt ceiling and then trump had a number of chaotic august's including charlottesville and his terrible response there. and even last year of course president biden had the botched early days of the afghanistan
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withdrawal. that also was in august. that's what sent his poll numbers beginning their slide which has only recently reverse it hadself. this august he was able to enjoy a vacation, he also was off the grid for a little bit because he had covid, he had it and a rebound case, was able to bounce back. what he was able to do was play the role of the closer. even if a sort of secondary role, get that legislation done, see democrats get their bill done. so many priorities they had in the works for such a long time and take advantage of momentum and also lastly simply get out of the way as the republicans seem like they're self-i'm lating right now and once again, the gop has had to contend with negative headlines coming out of mar-a-lago because the search, donald trump dominating the conversation. this white house thinks any day that people are talking about donald trump is probably a good day for democrats. >> that said, though, democrats routinely get hammered for not being strong enough on message. is this prime time address a direct response to that
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criticism and can we expect to see a whole lot more from the president over the campaign trail in the next ten weeks? >> yeah, lindsey, there's always a discussion about the role a president is going to play in the midterm elections and what we often see is that the members of the president's party are running away from them. i talked to the white house about this quite a bit and they note, one, as we saw yesterday that democrats aren't necessarily all running from him. matt cartwright who represents a swing district in northeast pennsylvania was with the president yesterday on stage as was josh shapiro, the candidate for governor. really what the president is doing i think tomorrow night shows there are things he can do with individual candidates on individual messages and issues that work for them but he can also play a big role in trying to set the discussion, have a larger conversation about big core issues that are at stake. he's going to be mixing the two of those. the other point that the white house makes is you look at 2010 shellacking as president obama put it at the time when democrats lost control of the house. all the democratic candidates by and large, especially those who
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lost really weren't talking about the very big piece of legislation they had passed, the affordable care act. they were running away from obamacare. you are not seeing that now. democrats across the country are talking about the infrastructure law, talking about the american rescue plan, talking about the inflation reduction act. they may not be running with biden but they are certainly running with his accomplishments which are their own accomplishments of course as well. >> mike memoli and jonathan lemire, thank you so much. major news on the fight against covid-19, the fda just authorized the first covid booster shots of the pfizer and moderna vaccine that target the subvariants of omicron. to get that shot you must be 12 and up to be eligible for pfizer's booster, 18 and up to get the moderna shot and at least be two months out from your most recent dose. before you get ready to roll up your sleeves the cdc will still need to sign off before these new boosters can be administered. boiling water, if there's any in the tap, waiting in lines for a single bottle or spending hundreds of dollars on water.
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this morning president biden called the mayor of jackson, mississippi, where right now nearly 200,000 people in the state's capital don't have safe drinking water. the president has declared a state of emergency there and this water crisis is touching all aspects of life. one hospital in the area has lost air conditioning. schools in the district are going virtual, and people are waiting in extremely long lines to get bottled water with some sites leaving people empty handed. >> out of free water that they are giving. hell, you can't get two because the line be so damn long. i have to work. >> the good news, the mayor is optimistic that we could see water restored this week but says there is a huge mountain to climb to achieve that goal. we will dig into all of this with state senator sally norwood in a moment. first, want to get an update on the latest from guad venegas on the round in ridge land, mississippi. how are people there dealing with this crisis? >> reporter: lindsey, as you saw, some people are going to
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the distribution centers to try to get some of that free water, the lines are long, we saw a man that was turned away, others who can afford it are buying water but they're spending a lot of money on the water. we met a woman buying water for her elderly mother who needed some, she spent about $100. this is just drinking water, brushing teeth water. for people who don't have water for the shower or to flush a toilet some say they have been going to friend's houses and they figured it out. i will say that most of the people that we spoke to yesterday told us they do have some water, it's the pressure that comes and goes. others saying that they have brown water. so it's all over the place as authorities here, the state, now the federal government and the city are working at this plant to try to solve the issue. we met a mother of three who was at home yesterday when we were driving around and she showed us what it's like living under these conditions. >> water pressure has been low, so they don't have water at the schools and so they put them on
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virtual. we have had to boil water to cook, to wash dishes, you know, pretty much to brush our teeth, we have to have boiled water and put it in a dispenser. it's been hectic, but we're making it. >> reporter: we walked inside her house, her kitchen i would say half of the space is being used by bottled water or other items that she uses like a big pot that she will use to boil the water. now, the school district said that the schools will remain closed until today and will make a decision moving forward. it's also really hot here, in the 90s, so the school district informed that because of the lack of water they can't even operate their air conditioning, one of the reasons why they decided that kids would be at home doing school virtually. these are some of the things that people have been dealing with while the government says the -- the state government says they expect the national guard to help bring in more water to the city so that distribution centers have more of it to give to the citizens here in jackson. >> guad, catch us up to speed on
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why this is happening. >> reporter: well, that explanation is very detailed and long. we know that the plant here has had issues for a very long time. that's what residents have told us. the mayor says they've been asking for help because the city hasn't been able to properly repair the problems at this plant. this is the main plant that supplies most of the water for jackson. so we had these issues, right, there's been a boil water notice for about a month here. so the quality of the water was already bad because of something in the water and that's the reason why people had to boil the water or use bottled water. that was even before the flooding. the flooding created more complications and eventually then we had the plant fail. this is when they declared the emergency. what has changed now is that you've got the state and the federal government involved so we would think that now there's going to be more resources. the white house said that the epa will work with their partners to get some critical equipment here. we're hoping that all of that help will repair the plant to
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get that running water into the city and eventually get it to the quality where people can brush their teeth and drink that water. >> guad venegas, thanks to you and your crew. i want to bring in sally norwood who represents part of jackson, mississippi. senator, thanks for being with us. >> thank you for inviting us. >> we're hearing from people there about how bad this is. the mayor says we could see some restoration by the end of the week but from your point of view how likely is that? >> well, thank you, again, for inviting us, but what we are hearing from the team that's on the ground is it's probably likely we will see some results but no major results as we move through this because we've been advised on all circles that it's going to be a long seed tedious process. unfortunately the incident command team they are not aware of what they potentially may face until they get in there.
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once they get inside and start analyzing equipment, then they can make some determination as to how long it may take to get through this process. >> and this isn't a new problem in jackson. the epa has cited problems there for decades, there have been recurring boiled water advisories in the area. what needs to be done to not only fix this now but also in the future? >> well, i think -- i think we've begun that process with the federal government stepping in, the state government has stepped in to work with the city. so i think now that all parties are working together i think that we are headed toward a solution, but, you know, up to now we just have not worked together as a team and i think that that's, you know, unfortunately in this situation brought us to a point i think now we are going to make some progress because we are working together. >> i want to turn back to the hospital i talked about at the beginning of this segment that lost air conditioning.
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they also had to get outside help to make sure their dialysis patients could get treatments. it is running off of a tanker brought in overnight from missouri. what more can the state and the federal governments do? >> well, i think that signing the declaration, that's going to make more resources available and easier to access, i think would be a great -- a great help there. one of the problems, you know, with the hospital, but then you have individuals that are doing home dialysis and they need access to water. all of the water sites set up all across the city, but the challenge here is also to make sure that those individuals that are homebound, that can't get out and access water that we've made plans and prepare to get water to those individuals at home and that's something that i
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along with others have been working to to make sure that we deliver water to these individuals and then, you know, if it's one case that's not going to be sufficient. we are looking at getting each household that fit that criteria three or four cases of water so that at least it will carry them out to at least one week because you've got, like i say, everything that you do you're going to need the clean safe water. >> yeah. >> you can't brush your teeth. this water is not safe to be consumed at any level. >> all right. mississippi state senator norwood, thank you. we hope things improve for you and your constituents. appreciate your time. >> thank you. fly me to the moon. the artemis launch set to get a redo after monday's malfunction. we will dig into nasa's latest plans ahead. plus how space is providing solutions to massive problems millions face right here on earth. you're watching msnbc. t here on earth. you'reat wching msnbc.
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nasa will try to launch the artemis i rocket this saturday from the kennedy space center. days after that initial launch was scrubbed for an engine issue. the launch window is scheduled to begin at 2:00 in the afternoon eastern time after being pushed back from friday because of weather concerns. nasa says that the launch does not happen by monday it will be postponed until later in the month. in the background of this launch ushering in a new space era there have been constant rocket launches work to go solve massive infrastructure problems on earth. the steady launches are coming from spacex's star link, a satly-based internet service work to go provide access to the internet for millions of people. nbc's cal perry happened to their california headquarters to find out how it's being used across the world. >> about 15 miles. >> yes, to a spot where you can
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actually get service on your phone. >> reporter: jackie toledo and pat gibson are raising three generations of children here on the edge of navajo nation in rural new mexico. in a place where households are separated by miles of desert and ancient cliffs, star link is the only option for communication here. >> and the jet pack doesn't really help to -- >> so this is then the thing that's worked? >> yes, definitely. >> it is. >> reporter: that thing is one of 650,000 terminals in 40 countries around the world communicating with star link's growing army of satellites above us all in lower earth orbit. for the last three years star link has been hitching a right from the falcon 9 rocket launching from florida and california. >> and liftoff. >> reporter: lauren drier and bianca reinhart are two of the few hundred employees working inside star link. >> education, telehealth, communication. >> reporter: something all too easy to understand in a place like ukraine when traditional
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ground-based communication systems were some of the first targets by russian air strike. >> we had a team on the ground in europe both tesla employees, spacex employees that set up almost instantaneous supply chain to get some terminals we already had in europe into ukraine in about 48 hours. so one of the most impactful moments for me, there is a video on reddit shot by a ukrainian witness, there were hundreds of people gathered around a single star link terminal calling and face timing. >> reporter: business questions arise about the speed in some places and the steep price tag it's $600 up front for the unit, $110 per month is the subscription price. >> how do you solve some of these problems? >> speed and cost. we're constantly launching more satellites. we as a company have a track record of constantly trying to drive costs down. >> reporter: the cuba independent school district used covid relief money to provide
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star link to their households. the funding lasts until 2024 but after that the district and the students are on their own. something that will leave hundreds of children back where they started before the pandemic. isolated and behind. >> we would give kids books, why would we give them internet connection? why wouldn't we see that as an equalizer for students who live in places where they can't afford or can't get it. >> reporter: a technology that provides great opportunity, the only question now is for whom. cal perry, nbc news. >> thanks to cal for that report. california's legislature pass add unanimous bipartisan bill yesterday that would force social media companies to consider children's health when designing their products. tech companies staunchly opposed the new regulations, argued differing state laws regulating their platforms would make compliance hard. california governor gavin newsom hasn't indicated whether he will sign or veto the bill. fetterman versus oz, the
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the results of alaska's first rank choice election will finally be tabulated today. we'll know who won the special election now that alaska's mandated 15-day waiting period is over. this is the special election for a house seat left vacant after the death of congressman don young. republicans could send republican sarah palin to fill the seat. the democrat received the most votes followed by palin. in pennsylvania a new poll shows the race appears to be tightening with fetterman leading mehmet oz. there's been a pretty nasty back and forth about fetterman's stroke in may. joining me is tara palmieri, who
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has been keeping a close check on the race. do you get a sense that the race is tightening? >> i don't get the sense that it's tightening. fetterman has been significantly ahead of oz. some polls show him double digits ahead of oz. it's interesting because fetterman has largely run a campaign through digital ads and paid placements. he really hasn't been on the campaign trail. he really can't. he's still recovering from the stroke, which is going to be a major issue for him ultimately. i think the fact that he says he's not ready to debate in september, early september, september 6th, is another serious issue for his campaign. but through these digital ads, through these placements, and through not being on the campaign trail where people make a lot of gaffes, he's been able
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to play up oz's gaffes and some of the mistakes he's made, a lot of which are self-inflicted. so far fetterman is far ahead. i wonder if the fact he's not feeling well enough to debate will translate into some slippage in support. i think ultimately at the end of the day people see health issues are every day kind of things that affect all of us and that's relatable but if you're going on five, six months and not able to campaign and we're coming close to election day about ten weeks away, i think that's going to start to hurt his numbers. >> let's start about that. fetterman says he's not ready to debate. also says by oz releasing a list of concessions, their campaign would be willing to make, fetterman is accusing oz of mocking his health concerns. how do you think this will sit with pennsylvania voters? >> i don't think anyone appreciates mocking of health
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concerns, especially from a celebrity tv doctor. it is absolutely a weakness for the fetterman campaign that he is not able to campaign, that he's not feeling well enough to debate, that he's dealing with slurring of speech and having these serious health issues. to mock that it almost seems to make this weakness that the campaign is suffering into a strength. again, another self-inflilkd wound by the oz campaign. they've been extremely tactless when dealing with this. but at the same time, it's now something that you and i are talking about on tv and something for a while i think the pennsylvania press corps was a little nervous about going after, right? health, age. it's always kind of these are viability questions. they always come up but they tend to come up toward the end of campaigns and seen as a little bit inappropriate. it's a serious problem, though, if he can't debate september 6th, he's going to need to go out there. at the same time it's been working for him to not be on the campaign trail.
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it has. there's no way to take that away without actually challenging oz face to face, he's still managing to beat him in the polls. and this is a state that joe biden barely one. joe biden won by one point. >> tara felterman, we'll have to leave it there, your dog on cue as well. to get key information, get over to plan your vote now. that does it for us. join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday at 1 p.m. "katy tur reports" is next. 1 p.. "katy tur reports" is next
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good to be with you. i'm katy tur. if you were wondering now strongly the government feels about the records donald trump kept at mar-a-lago, you got your answer at 11:30 last night in d.o.j.'s 36-page filing. we learned the government believed donald trump's team was lying to them, that despite multiple attempts to get the presidential records back, trump's team kept on hiding them. team trump said they returned all of the records, including classified material, did a, quote, diligent search, the fbi said they did not and the fbi managed to find
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