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good to be with you. i'm katy tur. if you were wondering now strongly the government feels about the records donald trump kept at mar-a-lago, you got your answer at 11:30 last night in d.o.j.'s 36-page filing. we learned the government believed donald trump's team was lying to them, that despite multiple attempts to get the presidential records back, trump's team kept on hiding them. team trump said they returned all of the records, including classified material, did a, quote, diligent search, the fbi said they did not and the fbi managed to find twice the
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documents with classified markings than the diligent search did. donald trump said they were in one storage room and the fbi said it wasn't and they shared this picture of documents into trump's office. they say the trump team delayed at nearly every stage and at one point stop d.o.j. from personally inspecting boxes in the storage room. team trump said the former president declassified the document and the government says there's no proof he did and the actions of his lawyers show they still believed the documents were still classified. team trump said he asserted privilege. he never asserted it until now and he doesn't have it anyway. team trump says the records were his. the government says no, classified or declassified, they belong to the government. team trump said the government
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inappropriately swept up personal items like his passport. the fbi said no, they were allowed to pick up anything commingling. the governor has already filtered through all of it anyway and if the court were to grant him a special master, it would only delay a pressing national security review. this there is a whole lot more here. so to help us dissect what the government is saying and read into what they're revealing, let us bring in our very smart panel, nbc news investigations correspondent tom winter, former chief of the counterintelligence and export control section of the d.o.j.'s national security division, and neal is the
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exacting solicitor general and clerked for justice steven breyer. i tried to point this into regular terms, tom. when we're reading through it, you tell me if i'm wrong, it sounded pretty angry to me. the tone of this was revealing. >> well, the trump team opened the door. this isn't just the justice department dropping a filing at midnight saying let's put a lot out there of stuff we haven't charged yet. they're responding from an initial suit from trump's team. they say you want to say a whole bunch of stuff about our case and talk to us and put something on the public record about what we're doing and what you perceive that weir doing, you opened the door, we have an absolute opportunity to walk through it guns blazing and explain to you exactly why you think that you're wrong and lay out the different contradictions, the things that the trump team asserted that they say doesn't exist or can't apply. everything you just talked about. it's not surprising to me when
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given the opportunity for federal prosecutors to stand up for their investigation that they're going to do it and the government does that often in these particular instances and the trump team effectively invited them in. >> and they even included a photo. we're going to put it up right now. it shows classified and top-secret documents in donald trump's office and they have those cover pages. most people have never seen what those cover pages look like. there they are at mar-a-lago. >> exactly, katy. kind of a first rule of a lawyer is be careful what you ask for. you do that with cross-examination, don't ask a question you don't know the answer to. here trump's lawyers spectacularly miscalculated. they gave the justice department the ability to tell its sorry, including through that photo. the justice department can't respond to tweets or sunday show accusations if they speak through their filings and hear the filing came out swinging. i don't think they were angry, i don't think that's the right characterization. i think they were stern.
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basically i think they were saying, look, if you want to accuse us of all this, let me tell you what the real facts are. i think the thing about that photo which is so interesting is it shows documents that are marked classified that were recovered during the excuse of the search warrant. after trump's attorney already certified the response to a grand jury subpoena all documents have been turned over. that grand jury subpoena is very interesting, katy. it doesn't require turning over just classified documents, it requires turning over documents that are marked classified. that picture shows these documents, even if trump has some weird bogus standing order to declassify theory, these documents fall directly within the subpoena that the grand jury issued and it's a federal crime to obstruct the interference with a grand jury investigation. so they've got trump and his counsel dead to rights on this. it's a straight forward violation.
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it doesn't depend one wit on whether this is classified or not. the grand jury asked for mees documents, they weren't turned over and trump's lawyer lied about it and said they were. >> i want to get to what might happen to donald trump's lawyers in a second. david, first i want to begin with you because at the end of this filing, a man name jay bratt signs it and that's familiar to our viewers because that's how i just introduced you, by your former title. as you read through this 36-page filing, what do you take away from it? >> katy, my main takeaway is that the department of justice and the fbi are now building a case for a lawful retention of national defense information in violation of the espionage act and obstruction of justice and the gloves are off now because trump has invited them to step into the ring, as neal and tom have indicated. they used this as a vehicle to display more of what they have
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learned, not everything that they learned. there's more facts that point to willful destruction that reveal documents not only found in his office but in desks of his drawers, commingled with his personal passport that points the finger at him potentially for causing his lawyers to make false reputations to the government, assuming they were unwitting of that. it didn't look like they engaged in a gargantuan exercise of due diligence. this is case moving down the tracks they're only in the initial stages but this is where they are at the initial stages, i shudder to think where they're going to be when they complete this investigation. >> let's linger on that. you said because these documents were found in donald trump's drawer, commingling with his passports and the other documents on the floor with the
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framed magazine covers it looks like at first glance, that points directly to donald trump himself maybe being the one who was saying, yes, all the documents are gone but knowing in fact that they were not? >> the more information that points to trump's contemporaneous knowledge that classified documents are in places he occupied personally, his personal office, his desk drawer, his personal stuff, the more it makes impossible the notion that he had nothing to do with the knowing retention of classified documents notwithstanding a grand jury subpoena. it just seems to me unless these lawyers are completely complicit that they relied on assurances by their client and their certifications as they're authorized by trump to make this certification that there's no more certification and yet the certification was made. i believe that the investigation will bear out that they relied unwisely by assurances from
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their client. >> everyone is nodding along. is this still an objection case? there are three laws cited in this motion again but also the motion to get the search warrant. >> the government exlicitly cited this is a national security investigation. it's not just about recovering records. they couldn't have been more explicit. and permeating this are additional facts that based on my experience as a prosecutor seeing these investigations that are consistent with the evolution of willful detention. they're going to have to compare it with other cases and arrive at a view that's consistent with enforcement policies and potential considerations that the attorney general will have
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to take into account. it certainly appears to be moving in that direction. >> lisa, what about donald trump's lawyers? as we were talking about, they certified to the government that they did a, quote, diligent search and they handed over everything that they had. where does that leave them? >> look, i think it leaves them in a really unfortunate place today. you'll notice, katy, in attaching that certification from the june 3rd meeting, the name of the lawyer who signed the certification is redacted and that redaction is meaningful. it means either she is going to be a witness for her client or she has exposure here. mr. corcoran, who is another of mr. trump's lawyers is the person to have said to have blocked the fbi from gaining access to the storage room at that meeting. he's also the person who
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prepared this document for signature. to have been involved in the commission of a crime by your client at the very least makes these two witnesses. at the worst, if they were complicit in the lies that he wanted to tell the fbi and d.o.j., that gives them criminal exposure, too. if i were one of the two of them, i might be hunting for a lawyer of my own right now. >> if you are arguing in favor of donald trump right now and if you're judge eileen cannon a few days ago she wrote in one of her filings that she was inclined to grant a special master to donald trump. this is d.o.j.'s attempt to say, no, that's not appropriate. if she does grant one, what would be the basis, the legal argument she could rely on? >> honestly i don't see one. i think the department's filing just destroyed any notion of a special master. the documents would just be
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returned to the archivist, not to trump, even if a special master existed and that it's moot because the government already looked through this stuff anyway. there was a brief filed by a bunch of former republican top d.o.j. officials who served as acting attorney general in judge cannon's court saying this would be frivolous, unprecedented and ridiculous. so i don't see it. if she does appoint one, i guess it would be for the limited notion of finding if there were any documents covered by attorney/client privilege. but because that lies with president biden, i don't see that either. >> there's an argument being made by some of the donald
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trump's allies on the right. they're looking at hillary clinton and the way that she dealt on classified material on her private e-mail server and there should be no charges. hillary clinton want charged so donald trump shouldn't be charged. are those two parallel investigations? are they the same thing? >> no, i don't think that they were. when the retention was discovered in mrs. clinton's case, you saw a lot of cooperation from her camp. that verse top secret national security information for our country, you've got a record here that is so full of delay and willfulness and delay on the former president's part, i don't see the two even remotely comparable. >> jay, what do you think? >> i'm not going to relitigate the facts of the clinton case,
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which will probably evoke ptsd on my part. we produced a comprehensive memorandum that became public as congress asked. based on what i'm seeing so far, there are far greater aggravating factors here than in the clinton case. the department will undertake the same exhaustive legal analysis, the same reference to histories of other cases like this to compare them and arrive at a meticulous judge at the end of the day about how to deal with this case. each one of these cases has its own factual ecosystem. they stand on their own. they can be compared to other cases but we're going to have to wait for the conclusion of the investigation to compare how this fits in with other cases. >> not to provoke your ptsd, can you just expand on aggravating factors? >> it would include the volume
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of classified information found. the government is telling us they recovered twice as much classified during the search or execution than they did during the voluntary production. the level of marked documents, i think there might have been one or two or three in the clinton case. here there's a multitude of them, including sci stuff that was found in trump's personal space. and then the obstruction is a defining factor and characteristic here that was not present in the clinton case. we had extensive cooperation. we did use compulsory process in that case, it is documented, the use of search warrants and other compulsory process but what is emerging is a pattern of deceit and obstruction that transforms this into a very different case. there's nothing that more offends an fbi agent and a department of justice prosecutor than the belief that they're being lied to by the subject of an investigation and that belief permeates this filing last time. >> i've heard that many times over the years from people who used to work in that department.
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chuck rosenberg being one name that comes to mind that has said it multiple times. thank you for that. tom, next steps. what happens now? >> the trump team will have an opportunity to respond. as we've seen in the past, they've sometimes used those filings as part press release, part legal filing. we'll see what they decide to do tonight. that will be the first step. then we'll have a hearing in front of the judge. the judge can make a determination right from the bench and say there's no need for a special master, we're done with this matter, this goes through the normal channels and magistrate court. if you all have other issues with respect to the search warrant, that's it's own separate compartment. if the judge issues a written order, that may take time and could ultimately decide the special master is increasingly unlikely after this filing but then they would have to appoint a special master and a special master that would have the appropriate security clearances to look at these types of
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materials. that could potentially really delay this investigation from moving forward. so those are your next steps. other next steps from a criminal aspect, say we move on from the special master issue, what other search warrants might be affected in this investigation? are there phones that need to be looked at? on top of that, they clearly have cooperation from one or two individuals. their filings have made that very clear. >> they said witnesses so we can say it's two or more. >> two or more. so what additional pieces of information did they get from them? did anyone else start talking? you can see why they're still in the early stages of this. it appears that they've gathered a lot based on their own statements, but it also may mean there's a lot more to go. >> tom winter, thank you very much. and in the wise words of our friend chuck rosenberg, you'll like this, make your bed, eat
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your vegetables, don't lie to the fbi. >> he's a great american. >> that's how i know not to lie to the fbi, all those things. >> and still ahead, a brutal triple-digit heat wave strikes southern california. what are angelinos doing? and a d.c. police officer comes face to face with the capitol rioter that attacked him on january 6th. what he told the court about how he's doing now. what he told the court about how he's doing now
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in jackson, mississippi, a city recently hit with massive flooding, there is also water everywhere still but not a drop to drink. president biden declared a state of emergency on the governor' request. jackson has been without water. residents have been under a boil water notice for more than a month amid years of water system failures. joining me from mississippi is guad.
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guad, what is happening here? >> the mayor was the first to tell us the plant had issues. hours later the government was in they were in an imagine. so what's happened now? the federal government is involved in helping the state government. president biden tweeting a photo today from the president's social media account showing a photo of him on the phone with the mayor of jackson. this means now they'll get even more resources from fema and the e.p.a. they've determined changes made to be made they plant because it's failing. the e.p.a. say they will work to expedite the delivery of essential equipment. meanwhile, you have people in the city that are waiting for the water, right? people that need the water right now. they want to know how long it's going to take to finally fix this.
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the governor has scheduled press conferences daily, answering questions. one of the questions that keeps getting asked is when will everything go back to normal? this is the governor answering that question. >> this is not a situation that's going to be solved immediately and it not going to be solved overnight, but we're going to make decisions and make incremental progress as we navigate through this. >> so the response is always we expect some progress, we're moving forward but we don't know when. what we do know is that the state continues to work to bring in water for all of people in the city. can you imagine how much water in a requires? this is tankers lined up, they said. they called in the national guard to do this. what they know is the water distribution places where people are going to get water have turned people away because they didn't have enough water. so we expect the state to use the resources they say they're bringing in to distribute even more water because the people
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need it on a daily basis, especially when the temperature here is in the 90s but the heat index is about 100 degrees. so you can imagine how it must feel in this weather to live without water, katy. >> i'm curious, those cars behind you that look official in some manner, i just wonder who is going in there right now and what they might be doing. let's bring in gracia, the regional administrator for fema region four, which includes mississippi. thank you very much for joining us. the people of mississippi are understandably frustrated and people of jackson who are doubly frustrated because they've been through this before because they've had water problems and flooding that seem to target some of the demographics in the area, the black demographic more
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predominantly than the white demographic. they feel like what's going on? why can't we get our infrastructure in place to make sure we have safe water to drink? so what is happening? >> so, katy, thank you again for having me. last night, as you heard, president biden approved the governor's request for an emergency declaration. what that declaration does is it authorizes reimbursement for emergency protective measures, which includes direct federal assistance for the county and that at 70% funding for 90 days. that means residents are eligible to apply for public assistance and female is able to assign missions to other federal agencies based on when a state
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and federal government can't provide. and help with distribution commodities and help with water resources. >> you say may include. isn't it obvious there are issues in the infrastructure? can the government get involved in doing that and fix it quickly? it's all well and good to get the assistance now as a stopgap measure but it's happened before. what steps are being taken to make sure it doesn't happen again? >> we're going to work closely with other agencies to help provide long-term solutions. this declaration is just for
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immediate needs, temporary repairs. we'll continue then to bring in maybe other federal agencies who have grants or other authorities under their own authorities to bring in support for a long-term solution. >> do you think mississippi can do this on their own? again, it's happened before. do they have the ability to fix these problems or does the government need to step in and try to do something more than they're doing already right now, holding their hands? >> we're going to continue to support them so it is really a team effort. when i say a team, it's just not state. it's local, it's federal and it's other organizations, philanthropic organizations that may be out there that can help with this issue. >> gracia, thank you very much for joining us. we're going to go back to
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gaud venegas. the city manages the plant. the mayor told us they've had issues for years and had been asking for assistance and said they didn't have the resources for equipment and personnel to fix the issues. i asked him if he had magic stick, what would be the solution? he said i wouldn't be opposed to a whole new plant. i asked what that would cost and he said about a billion dollars. so that is in a dream world. they have brought in inspectors and they've found issues that require more assistance and now with the federal government coming in, i'm sure that that's going to offer more help to bring those repairs that we know are necessary here. now, this plant provides most of the water for jackson. the state also informed that there is another plant that provides some extra water and
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they also said yesterday that that plant could use some improvements so these are all the things that we're learning. the state government is offering another press conference today so the governor will speak and the mayor will speak. we will have updates later today on how the repairs are going. >> a billion dollars for a new plant, a new plant would be more than a billion dollars. 429 million was set aside for water lines and pipes specifically. so some money. i guess not quite enough to fix the problems that they're talking about right now but we'll see what happens next. guad venegas, thanks for joining us. >> and what they're calling zombie ice. plus an officer blames his
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participation in the capitol riots on his history as a police officers in the nypd. will that save him from a 17-year sentence? him from a 17-year sentence
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we spent billions to sweep it under the rug. man 3: so we're going to be fine. but you might want to start a compost pile, turn down the ac. you got a lot of work to do because your kids are going to need it. a former ny police officers
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is taking what would be the longest second in a january 6th riot to date. he's seen in red on body cam footage and was the first january 6th defendant to be tried on an assault charge. he claimed self-defense and was convicted on six counts in may, four of which include use of a deadly or dangerous weapon. when webster is sentenced tomorrow, prosecutors will seek 17 1/2 years in federal prison. and there are developments in another january 6th criminal trial related to the officer of a horrifying video that became synonymous with the riot. metro police officer daniel hodges screaming in pain as he's constructed by a door frame and a shield held by a capitol rioter as a wave of people
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attempted to push through and breach the building. yesterday hodges appeared in court at the trial of the three rioters. he alleges that he threw his body weight against hodges and pressed against him the stolen police shield. joining me is daniel hodges. i want to get your reaction from you about what happened in court but can i ask you about this ex-nypd officer who is trying to get a shorter sentence because he's blaming ptsd because of working on the job in the bronx. what do you think of that? >> he also said self-defense. he traveled to the capitol, ignoring lawful orders to disperse and then breaking through the lines and attacking police officers in self-defense.
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that's not how self-defense works. with regard to ptsd, i don't know his mental state and his diagnoses, if he has any from the job, but i know officers who do have ptsd and they don't attack other officers. >> what struck me most about his case and why i wanted to bring it up is he's an officer. he was a former officer himself and this is a police officer hurting over police officers. let me ask you about what happened as you testified. tell me what you told the court. >> i told the court what happened. i told the court what i experienced, the play by play of the assault, how i was assaulted in the tunnel, how they used the shield to pin me against the door, the body weight of all the people behind them coming forward, crushing me and allowing another member of the
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mob to assault me. i talked about how i was lucky to get out of there, that sustaining more injuries in that place would have -- could have ended very badly. i could have been seriously injured or killed. and that's all i could really tell the court. i hope they use that information to reach a fair judgment. >> what do you think a fair judgment is? >> prison time. it's -- i don't know how you can do those things with all the evidence that we have and not see a significant amount of prison time. >> how are you feeling right now? and i know i've asked you this before but i think it's worth checking in on you, especially as you had to testify and as we're about to gear up to more january 6th hearings. >> well, i mean, this is the
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first criminal trial that i've testified in the better part of two years on from the event of january 6th. it's been a long time coming. so it's good to finally see, you know, the gears of justice turning in a more visible way for me. i'm always paying attention to the news, paying attention to what the committee is doing and i'm really looking forward to seeing what's in store and what else comes of their investigation. >> how do you feel now that some of these trials for these january 6th rioters are coming to an end and people are facing jail time? >> well, it frustrating to see some very light sentences out there. you know, some people have the option to go to jail on the weekends, probation, that kind of thing and i don't think that's really an adequate response from the justice system to insurrection. but i also know that, you know,
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it's about what you can prove in court and all they can really prove with some of these people is trespassing so it's understanding but also frustrating. >> i expect we're going to see more of you at the january 6th hearings as they begin again. they are supposed to start up again in september and we are just a few days away from september. daniel hodges, thank you for coming on and sharing what you told the court yesterday. >> thank you for having me. >> and coming up, remembering the people's princess 25 years after her death. and up next, a potentially deadly heat wave for tens of millions of those on the west coast. what those helping to celebrate the holiday weekend should do if they're going to go outdoors. gs my husband and i have never been more active. shingles doesn't care. i go to spin classes with my coworkers. good for you, shingles doesn't care. because no matter how healthy you feel, your risk of shingles sharply increases after age 50.
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it's about to get hot, really hot on the west coast. more than 52 million people, including my mother, are now
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under some form of excessive heat advisory stretching from the pacific northwest all the way down to the southwest. it includes the entire state of california where temperatures are expected to hit triple digits on thursday. los angeles county could shatter a record of 110 degrees. death valley, already one of the hottest places in the world could reach 125 degrees. it would be the hottest temperature ever recorded during the month of september, which means it does actually get hotter there, just not in september. raf sanchez is there. tell my mother what she should not be doing as the temperatures get very hot. i know she's watching. >> katy, your mother should not be out walking around in the heat. she should be keeping bottled water with her and on a more serious note, the energy companies here are saying be prepared for the possibility of
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blackouts as everybody is at home as they have the air conditioning cranked up, socal is urging people to go easy on the a.c. they say they want the thermostat at 78 degrees, which is hot given how warm it is. they say that's what they need to keep the grid from overwhelming, from potentially heading into blackout. they're saying make sure if there is a loss of power that you have batteries at home, that you have flashlights, that you potentially have even a battery-operated radio. so if you lose power, your tv, your cell phone, if you can't get our updates on msnbc, you have a source of news. l.a. county is telling people look out for the most vulnerable right now. it is kids, the elderly and people with chronic conditions, but, katy, it's also the big unhoused population.
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you walk to downtown l.a. there's a lot of people on the streets and those streets will be absolutely broiling. authorities here have activated cooling sensors so these are libraries, recreation centers with air conditioning where people can go inside and get out of the heat for a little while, try to cool down, try to stay safe. it is 92 degrees right now here in l.a., it is heading to 100 later on today and, as you said, in some neighboring county, it is going to be 115 degrees by tomorrow. so one other real risk here is forest fires. these are exactly the kind of hot conditions that create the dry kindling that leads to the next big california fire. >> and in greenland, sea levels
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will rise by a foot. they say it is inevitable, even if the world stops using fossil fuels right this minute. they expect a rise of 10.6 inches from the melting of that ice sheet. they say 3.3% will melt, equal to 110 trillion sheets of ice. coming up, a look at how princess left a mark on her children, england and the world. . dad's work, meet daughter's playtime. thankfully, meta portal auto pans and zooms to keep you in frame. and the meeting on track. meta portal. the smart video calling device that makes work from home work for you.
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experienced people. i bring here the best and the brightest in safeguards, safety and security and we will have a pretty good idea of what's going on. >> the mission will take a few days. beyond that, he hopes his agency can establish a more permanent presence at the plant. today marks the 25th anniversary of princess diana's death. in paris, the site of her death is decorated with memorials, photos of her, flowers, et cetera. here's a look at the legacy princess diana left behind. >> reporter: hugs to say hello, to congratulate, and at times to comfort. prince william, prince harry and their wives aren't afraid to open their arms and to bear their souls. it's what princess diana would have done. the people's princess, a royal
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with a common touch. >> there isn't a day where i haven't thought about the mark she left. not only on me and my brother, but on all of our lives. >> reporter: diana was 19 when she promised to marry prince charles. their fairytale wedding, a global spectacle. 750 million people tuned in to see the dress, the carriage ride, the kiss on the balcony. away from all the pomp and pageantry, diana yearned for a normal life. back then, the bodyguard for princess diana, prince william and prince harry. >> from day one, she will take them to school. she didn't want them in a room in a palace. she wanted them to be out with their own peer group and shopping in the street and going to theme parks because what
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their own friends did. >> reporter: and exposing them to another side of britain, taking them to homeless shelters. prince william wrote about it in june saying i was 11 when i first visited a homeless shelter with my mother who was determined to shine a light on an overlooked misunderstood problem. diana opened the country's first aids unit shaking hands with one of the patients determined to break the stigma of hiv/aids and campaigned against land mines. >> trying to highlight a problem that's going all around the world. >> causes her children still champion today. and teaming up with a former rugby star earlier this year encouraging people to get tested for hiv. >> what my mum started all those years ago was creating empathy and understanding. >> reporter: diana was just 36 when she died, tragically killed in a paris car crash.
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the queen paid tribute in a rare live message from buckingham palace. >> i respected her energy and commitment to others. and especially for her devotion to her two boys. i for one believe there are lessons to be drawn from her life and from the extraordinary and moving reaction to her death. >> reporter: her legacy alive today, especially in her two sons, promoting mental health, opening up about their own struggles. >> when you are bereaved at a young age, particularly at a young age, that can resonate closely to that, you feel pain like no other pain. >> reporter: now a quarter of a industry after her death, diana's vision of a modern royal family endures. >> her legacy lives on in the way that the royals now conduct themselves. it's a generational thing. i think the royals are more touchable than they were in the last century, of course, because of the times that we live in. but that's also the diana
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effect. >> reporter: the diana effect living on in her sons and their children and in generations to come. >> 25 years. thank you for that report. that's going to do it for me today. hallie jackson picks up our coverage next. ackson picks up o coverage next. ♪ we believe there's an innovator in all of us. ♪ that's why we build technology that makes it possible for every business... and every person... to come to the table and do more incredible things.
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