yes, they are. but they are not making so much as to perhaps jar the inflation picture right now. on a month over month basis, wages increased by about .3%. that means on a year-over-year basis it is up 5.2%. so it is still growing, but both of those were below economists expectations. as for where the hiring is happening, manufacturing added 22,000 jobs, professional and business services added 68,000 jobs and then hospitality added 31,000 jobs so there are the places where you're seeing job growth. and we look at markets and reaction here. what you're seeing here is markets generally higher, interest rates did not move all that much on this. so this is being viewed by some experts in the market as a so-called goldilocks scenario. inflation is not being stoked higher by this report, and at the same time, you're starting to see people entering the work

force which means maybe inflation pressures will ease a little bit. and i'll point this out, joe, and mika, the idea here, interest rates didn't move on this and neither did the expectations in the futures market for where interest rates will be by the end of the year. so, again, kind of like that goldilocks scenario. >> i mean, at least for this month, of course this is a month by month thing, but at least for this month, you look at everything from new jobs added, job participation rate, the wages going up, but not so high that it adds inflationary pressures on the economy. a lot of really good news in this report. and legendary tweeter duke st. journal said, i think this may be a few minutes ago, i think this may be what a soft landing looks like. if we were of course to continue to move into this direction, dom, i guess this would be what

a soft landing that the fed is desperately trying to achieve would look like, right? >> this would be. and the reason why you have this scenario is because you and i both know, we've been talking about this debate about whether the american economy is actually in a recession or not. it certainly feels in many ways like we're in a recession, because of the -- some of the economic head winds that are mostly inflation tied. if this continues on this particular track, and if markets react in this particular way, what it could indicate is that this is the soft landing scenario. and by the way, we're still painting this very positive jobs picture because the numbers are dictating that right now. but you and i both know that anecdotally we've been reporting on the number of companies from technology to industrials that are already starting to either layoff people, rescind job offers or perhaps just freeze hiring. so whether or not those numbers start factoring into the coming months, that remains to be seen.

you would suspect that with the number of kind of layoff announcements that we've seen, that eventually they'll start showing up in the data. but if it stays this way, it is never good when people are losing their jobs. but if their losing jobs and in a more measured way from a macro perspective in the economy, that could be good for that inflation story. right now the fed is obviously paying very close attention to whether or not the inflation pressures are trending lower. noft just one or two data points lower, but trending lower. this is key in the next two to three months. >> dom chu, thank you very much. now to joe biden's dire warning about the threats to american democracy in a rare trial time address last night, the president spoke in front of independence hall of the dangers of the trump backed wing of the republican party. >> i believe america is in the an inflection point. one of those moments determine

the shape of everything that is to come after. and now america must choose to move forward, or to move backwards. to build a future of obsessed about the past, to be a nate of hope and unity and optimism or a nation of fear, division, and of darkness. maga republicans have made their choice. they embrace anger, they thrive on chaos, they live not in the light of truth, but in the shadow of lies. but together, together we could choose a different path. we can choose a better path. forward to the future. a future of possibility, a future to build and dream and hope. and we're on that path moving ahead. i know this nation. i know you, the american people,

i know your courage, i know your hearts and i know our history. we can't let the integrity of our elections be undermined. for that is a path to chaos. look, i know politics could be fierce and mean and nasty in america. i get it. i believe in the give and take of politics and in disagreement and debate and dissent. we're a big complicated country. but democracy endures only if we the people respect the guardrails of the republic, only if we the people accept the results of free and fair elections, only if we the people see politics not as total war, but mediation of our differences. democracy cannot survive when one side believes there are only two outcomes to an election.

either they win, or they were cheated. and that is where the maga republicans are today. >> yeah, and i do want to say, mika, you look at some of the headlines and that said that biden called out trump and republicans. and of course, you have a lot of commentators out there that are trying to mischaracterize this as an attack on all republicans. he talked very specific about how he worked with republicans on bipartisan legislation. he's worked with the republicans on ukraine. he's worked with republicans on infrastructure bills. he's worked with republicans on gun safety measures. he's worked with republicans on v.a. health care expansion. he's worked with republicans on many things and he said last night he's working with republicans. he's talking about people that identify themselves as maga republicans, trump supporters

who believe that the election was stolen, who believe that the fbi or members of the gestapo, believe that violence is coming, believe that there is going to be a civil war because their guy didn't win the white house and because they're guy may be held accountable for possibly breaking the law. and putting -- possibly putting people's lives in danger. i guess the safest way to say it is, the guy they support, the guy that we consider to be a political cult, is a guy who may actually be held to account the same way every other american would be held to account. the same way every republican member of congress would be held to account and every democratic member of congress would be held to account if they did the same thing. this wasn't an attack on all republicans. joe biden was very careful to say that there are republicans that he's worked with and he likes and respects. but it is those groups of maga

trumpers who believe the election was stolen because they believe his conspiracy theories, believe that january 6 was a good thing, believe as we've heard all morning along with donald trump that riders who brutalized police officers, stormed the capitol, tried to overthrow a legitimate election, they believe that they're heroes who need to be pardoned. that is -- that is a danger to this constitutional republic. and you know what, they know it is. mika. >> well, i think some of them know it is. and some are very swept up by donald trump. and probably not thinking necessarily about the future of this country. or the country at all. let's bring in white house reporter for politico and "morning joe" senior contributor eugene daniels. by most accounts this is not the

kind of speech joe biden wanted to give 18 months into his presidency. what are you hearing as to what was behind the decision to make this address, to draw this line in history? >> this isn't a speech he wanted to give. and as a matter of fact, for most of his presidency, we saw, especially at beginning, we saw himself sand a lot of his senior aides doing everything they could to not utter donald trump's name. it was frustrating for us in the briefing room talking to jen psaki at the time wondering what is going on with the president calling him the former guy. but a lot has changed. over the last 18 months democrats have wanted to see the president more on the offensive. they want to see him go right at donald trump and what they see as the extremists parts of the republican party, the maga republicans as president biden put it yesterday. and also we've seen this rise from january 6 on, this rise in

dangerous rhetoric, and people during the midterm primaries on the republican side who don't believe that this election was free and fair, getting -- possibly getting into positions of power for the next election, for 2024 which is very concerning for this white house. and so you have president biden yesterday going through all of the that, talking about how first and foremost that donald trump and maga republicans for him are a danger to democrats and he brought receipts talking about january 6 to the threats to fbi agents after the seizure and search of mar-a-lago. and that is something that this white house has filled like they have been forced to do. they said at one point, this wasn't a political speech. but for those of us that the white house covering the campaign, it felt like a 2024 convention speech. something that at the beginning of his presidency, president biden wanted to say and said this is not who we are at

americans. but now he's kind of saying, this is who some of y'all are. but we could fix that and change that and hopefully come together. ly -- i will say september 15th, they will have a unity convention here to temper down a lot of the rhetoric. so they feel like they're doing all of the things that they need to to make that switch here. and as joe was saying, he did bend over backwards to not talk about just republicans at large and make it clear he was talking about maga republicans. you're not hearing that from republicans today. me feel like it was a broad swath but that is not what he was doing. and as was a time to contrast himself between donald trump, something they didn't think they were going to do but this is now the opportunity to do that. and we see over the last few weeks, his approval ratings for president biden has gone up. so this is something that they think will help as well.

>> politico's unique daniels, thank you very much. >> let me ask jonathan lemire. it is obviously, it is known to the republicans and the democrats in washington, d.c. whether all of the republicans want to admit this or not, but if donald trump is on the ballot this fall that is a big win for the democratic party. if trump is thinking about running, he was going to jump in after labor day, now reports are that he's delayed that. that politically, if he did jump in before the election, that is great news. you have so many conservative voices that are saying, the more donald trump is in the news, the better it is for the democratic party. the more it hurts republican candidates. how much of those political considerations were taken into account last night before the president went out and issued a blistering attack on donald

trump and some of his more extreme followers. >> the internal thinking at the white house has definitely changed and evolved over his time in office. this is a speech, a lot of the rhetoric sounds like the warnings he issued in 2020 saying this is why trump had to be defeat and there has been a hope that the temperature of the nation would lower. there would be less divisiveness. that some of the wounds would heal, the nation could start to turn the page and that fueled the thinking, why biden and his team didn't want to talk about trump. they thought the nation would turn the page on him. well that hasn't happened. they've been surprised an dismayed. the president often talks about how he doesn't recognize a lot of the republican party any more. he makes clear, as he did last night, there are some good republicans. but so many of them are still under the sway of donald trump. and he thought to borrow the phrase from his predecessor, barack obama, he thought the fever would break and it hasn't. maga republicans still make up the majority of republicans and

trump, in the headlines again, still the dominant figure in the party, considering another presidential run, he had to be addressed square on and that is what this president wanted to do last night. and with the added back drop of the chaos we're seeing in the wake of the fbi search of mar-a-lago. but he just felt the stakes were too high, joe, that this couldn't wait and now is the time to put trump back on the ballot, to make this election about him and democrats think that will be successful for their side. >> let's bring in staff writer at the atlantic, tom nichols and you tweeted last night there is a part of me debating whether biden's speech wasn't tough enough. but it was necessary and right to give it. i think there has been a lot of times, along the way in the trump presidency, where it might have felt like things were being overstated when people talked about democracy being at stake. after january 6th, and after a

number of other benchmarks in the legacy of donald trump, i think that you might be right, and if president biden was trying last night, i think, to reach more americans on the issue of democracy being at stake and why it's important, do you think he accomplished that? is that what you were worried about? >> yeah. i think he did. although, maybe i -- because we've all lived with this for so long, i want to see more urgency about it. i think he said -- first i think if the president hasn't given this speech, he would have been derelict in his duty as the chief executive in his constitutional duty to defend the constitution of the united states. the constitution is under attack. it is under attack from an organized -- from the majority of an organized political party. and for him not to acknowledge that reality in public, would have been a dereliction of his

duty. but i almost, i thought the attempt to dive i'd -- to divide out the maga republicans. i understand why he had to do that, saying i understand there are out there centrist republicans, but the maga republicans have taken over the institutional republican party and the elected members. there are, when he talks about republicans, it is a tough sell to say who are these rational and reasonable republicans left that you're working with? and i think to hit that point, to say, look, this is not -- and did he say this, these are not normal times. this is not a normal political movement. and then he kind of -- there was kind of a die gression on

prescription drugs that probably didn't need to in the speech but to pound the lectern as he did when he said vote, vote, vote. because this is not just another petty policy disagreement, this is for all of the marbles. >> yeah. >> hey, tom, i'm wondering what your reaction has been over the past week to some republicans, some conservative so-called conservatives on the right who have really been pushing back against trump. and warning about donald trump's actions at mar-a-lago and also warning about what is been happening. some of his strongest defenders, you have andy mccarthy in the new york post who wrote a couple of days ago that donald trump, it looks like committed obstruction of justice, that there is a pretty open and shut case for obstruction against trump there. the washington times publishing

op-eds saying the same thing. ben shapiro this week with a thread that very clearly pointed out to republicans that if they wanted to win elections, they needed to stop obsessing over donald trump. and move beyond trump. brit hume, i guy who has defends trumpism through the years, saying the same thing. the only thing this guy does is in spire democrats and rev up independents to vote against us. so, i'm curious, we don't think any page is being turned on trumpism. but that is about as much of a shift as i've seen in quite sometime. what was your take on it? >> yeah, i'm less impressed by that, joe. first of all, a handful of pundits, you know, saying the obvious thing that is right in front of all of our faces, you know, doesn't give me a lot of hope because there are two things about that. one of them is you still have potentially the next speaker of the house talking about the --

would it be the sparking electric cord jolting his heart and his usual kind of flat-footed rhetoric and you're not hearing this among the republican elected who are still plenty afraid of their own primary voters. they're not afraid trump so much as they are afraid of their own voters. and all of them, i think, when push comes to shove further down the line, are going to invoke what i think of now as the bill barr room. yes, trump is terrible and a threat to the constitution and yes, he's a horrible person, but left is so dangerous that even trump, if even trump is the nominee, well what are you going to do? the left is simply beyond -- it is such a hazard that is left and then they point back and say, i did say all of this stuff, i did warn about it, i called out my own guy, but,

again, they'll kind of spread their hands and say, but what your going to do. the left is simply too dangerous to tolerate in power. so i'm -- i don't hold out a lot of hope that suddenly andy mccarthy or shapiro will step forward and say that means i'm not going to vote for donald trump if he's the nominee and i would work with democrats to stop him. that is not going to happen. >> yeah. >> by the way, just for the record, when your quoting one of the greatest moments in american speech making over the past century, the exact phrase is, the electric cord of liberty. >> pull the plug. okay. the atlantic's tom nichols, thank you. yikes. >> looking forward to your takes on kasie's coast to coast this weekend. >> the electric cord of liberty. >> up next, one conservative former judge said that what the department of justice has revealed so far in its investigation into the

classified documents donald trump took with him to mar-a-lago is more than enough to indict him and probably enough to convict. we'll play for you his argument and bring you the developments from yesterday's day in court. plus why the fbi is now talking to hall of fame quarterback brett favre. >> this is -- this doesn't sound good for brett. >> it surrounds a welfare scandal sweeping through mississippi. we'll bring you the details next on "morning joe." >> electric cord of liberty, still sparks in our hearts. >> bart, lisa, stop that. >> wait a minute. nute

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i think that the doj has already decided to ask a grand jury and either miami or washington, d.c. to indict former president trump. and what they've tipped their hands on, the little that they've revealed to the public and what they've shared with judge cannon is more than enough to indict him and probably enough to convict him. >> conservative legal analyst and former judge andrew napolitano with that analyst on news max. as for yesterday's hearing about the search of former donald trump's mar-a-lago home and club, federal judge eileen cannon would make public a more detailed list of what the fbi seized. trump's lawyers requested a more specific inventory of what investigators took, claiming that the version they got from the government was too vague.

it is unclear when the documents will be released. judge cannon did not immediately rule on the trump lawyer's request to appoint a special mast tore review all of the materials seized in the august 8th search, to determine whether any of it includes potential attorney/client or executive privilege issues. joining us now, former u.s. attorney joyce vance, she's an msnbc legal analyst. joyce, what do you make of the court proceedings yesterday, the potential for a more detailed list to be -- i sometimes feel like the trump team should stop asking for things because they'll get it. and, you know, it won't be good. but then again, maybe not. what is the potential here that these documents are just like overdue library books? >> right. so, i think we can dismiss that notion. there is nothing here that is like an overdue library book.

this is an extraordinarily serious situation. and this photo that doj attached to its response in the case that trump ill-advisedly filed is litly worth a thousand words. because what you have in that picture is photographs of highly classified documents. this is the sort of photograph that the fbi takes to document its evidence and yet it copt just take a photo and release it. it had to put cover sheets from front of all of those documents to block out classified portions of information that were simply lying in drawers and cardboard boxes at mar-a-lago. so no one should think this isn't a serious matter. mika, i want to disagree with something that judge napolitano said and it is a finally tuned point but i think it is important. i disagree that the doj has made a decision to indict in this case. but the use of a search warrant that specified three separate federal crimes signified that

doj is willing to indict if the evidence is there. doj doesn't have a crystal ball. they don't know what the evident will look like at the end of their investigation. whether the former president might have legitimate defenses, but by taking this serious investigative step, i think that they signal that they mean business. and saz you point out for trump, everything that he asks for makes this look worse. and so when the judge unseals doj enhanced list of items that it seizes during the search, and by the way, it was doj that made the offer to do that, in their response brief, they dropped a foot note and they said, we'll be happy to unseal this if the judge would like. i think we'll see more evidence that they collected that links trump to those documents. we already know his passport was in a drawer with classified material. there will be more. >> so, i just was zoning in on what you said about the doj making it clear here in the

moves they've made so far, making it clear that they mean business. so do they watch then what else is going on with donald trump, if he is one of a number of people they are looking at pertaining though these documents where there may be some real problems, some real conflicts and some real boundies crossed in terms of obstruction or having classified documents having stolen them, are they looking at his behavior and going on the radio and offering pardons if he wins the presidency again for january 6 rioters. does any of that matter or do they just do tunnel vision on the case and move forward? >> everything with former president is doing right now is simply adding to doj's cache of evidence. it is all admissible. it all comes in. he's making statements against his interests.

and we've watched this progression and it is honest hard not to laugh but for this is serious. he said the fbi planted documents but suddenly we learn that he declassified magically the documents that the fbi planted, of course that is not true. he didn't de classify them. they weren't planted and he goes on and on with this sort of shifting array of potential defenses. it is like watching something throw spaghetti on the wall hoping something will stick. and this too is important. because for trump, these are not legal defenses. this is his appeal to the court of public opinion and it is all about delegitimizing law enforcement in the eyes of the public. everything that he does is designed to say doj is so corrupt they can't even conduct a search. and to have a former president doing this full on assault on our democratic institutions is something that we shouldn't ignore in the middle of all of this. is there criminality. that is doj's call. is his behavior absolutely inappropriate and something that should be called out in every

corner of public life, it absolutely is. >> joyce, it is jonathan, first just a piece of supporting evidence to what you said, merrick garland is very wanting to keep politics out of this business and knows what fallout were trump to be indicted and he didn't issue the search warrant if he didn't think that it was worth it and that opens the door to a charge but people close to the just department that a has been made. but i want to ask you about something yesterday, the special master, trump people want it and the justice department said this will slow things down. so far the judge is sympathetic to the trump side. so just walk us through what that process would look like and how much of a delay could we be looking at if a special mast ser put in place? >> yeah, it is an important question, jonathan. and first, i want to say that i have been talking with my colleagues both republican and democrat across the country, ever since this came up and

asking this question, has anybody ever used in a special master in the case that didn't involve a search of an attorney's office and so far i haven't found anyone who has. and the reason that that is done is a special master comes in to provide an additional fire wall when there could be privileged attorney/client material that isn't involving people that are subject of the investigation. no other words, you search an attorney's office, they have a bunch of clients. you want to make sure that in one is prejudiced who isn't part of a criminal investigation. and so it is extraordinarily out of range to even request a special master here. the former doj lawyers who are representing trump know that. and the problem here is that judge cannon seems to be more intent on trying to be solomonic and splitting the baby and trying to give everyone something as opposed to doing the right thing. sometimes judge surprise us and they could ask and question things in a hearing and do

something different. because a special master would slow down this investigation. she could do it in a limited way and all the special master is here to do is to look for attorney/client material and doj has segregated a amount of that but even if that is a ruling, the special mast core go through everything, slowing down doj, possibly impacting the classification review and risk assessment being done in the intelligence community, and something republicans love to say and democrats too is that justice delayed is justice denied. here doj needs to be permitted to go about its work without any unusual constraints. >> former u.s. attorney and legal analyst joyce vance, thank you very much for being on this morning. hall of fame quarterback brett favre has been questioned by the fbi over millions of dollars in state welfare funds he received. it stems from an investigation into a mississippi welfare fraud

scheme. the state alleges the head of one of its welfare agencies redirected more than $70 million in funds intended for children in poverty. using the money instead to benefit his family and friends. that includes tens of millions of dollars toward hiring retired pro-wrestlers, first-class air travel, a horse grant and $5 million to build the women's volleyball facility at the university of southern mississippi, favres alma mater and where his daughter played the sport. text messages obtained by mississippi today show favre saying he helped secure government grant money for a new arena. and he personally was paid more than $1 million for appearances he never made. >> from welfare funds intended for the poorest and most

disadvantaged in mississippi. >> so brett favre hasn't been accused of a crime but he said he never knew it was welfare money and paid it back after demanded by state officials. he still owes $228,000 in interest imposed by state auditor. we will keep following this story. up next, senator kirsten gillibrand joins us as democrats look to use a string of legislative successes and a more emboldened president biden as a recipe for victory in november. plus why, if the gop does retake the house, democrats should expect the coming republican inquisition. we'll explain that just ahead.

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them personally. so for example, in queens, in our town hall, there was a lot of questions about mental health and public safety. and the answer to that is the gun bill that we just passed, a portion of it which i spent a lot of time working on which is getting rid of gun trafficking in new york state more than -- about 90% of the guns come from out of state and almost all of them are illegal. and having money and making that a federal offense gives law enforcement more tools to get the guns out of the street. second, the money from mental health in that bill is for violence disruption. and there is a lot of not for profits, a lot of schools, there is a lot of entities that are actually doing the work to make sure that they could do violence disruption to make sure we don't have shooters going into schools and places of worship, to make sure we don't have suicide rates, to make sure we catch these shooters before they commit these crimes. that works and so they want to know about this. so my job as their federal representative is to bring

information about how to apply for that money, to letters of support to get the resources and so these town halls are fundamentally important for me to serve the community so they know what we're doing and how it is going to effect them. >> you talk about the level of concern you've heard regarding the supreme court taking away constitutional right to privacy, that women have had for the past 50 years. >> well, you know, joe, you said it right. it is a right to privacy. it was written that said that women of reproductive years does not deserve a right to privacy and it doesn't apply for the fundamental life and death decisions about whether to have children, under what circumstances, with whom. and because the expanse of the right to privacy is something that we've counted on for over 50 years in this country, justice thomas went so far as to say i want to work on upending all of the decisions under the right to privacy, the right to marry the person you love, the

right to privacy in your bedroom, the right to reproductive care and contraception. all of the laws are under the right to privacy and you have cases now in the red, red states where a mother and her daughter can't have a private conversation on facebook where people are denied to freedom of the mail and denied the right to travel out of state to get health care. it is outrageous. and if the full country fully understood the weight of the lack of a right to privacy, i think they would be even more concerned. but i do think it is effecting how people see president trump, the ultra conservative justs he put on the court and the agenda of the very conservative states and member of congress. >> it is fascinating, the cases that flow out of the same right to privacy that led to roe. yes, contraception, marriage equality, interestingly enough

justice thomas didn't talk about loving that case, interracial marriage. but what is so disturbing to -- i know a lot of my friends who are pro-life, who have always called themselves pro-life, are these extreme cases that they're hearing, a 10-year-old girl raped in ohio, that is is forced to flee the state because she is led to believe that the centralized state is going to push her into a forced birth of the rapist's baby. without any input from her mom or dad, without any input from her pastor. >> or her doctor. a 10-year-old might not be able to did -- a 10-year-old could die in clald birth because their bodies are not developed enough to birth a child. >> and also from her medical care provider. this 10-year-old should have a team around her that could figure out the best way to help her survive this traumatic event. you have a 14 -- the example of

an 14-year-old girl being raped by an uncle in michigan, that the republican nominee for governor running against governor whitmer said that is the perfect example of why i would force this state to compel a forced birth. like, talk about just the magnitude of this, for again even people who consider themselves to be pro-life, how excessive, how extreme this is become in the heartland. >> yes. and it is also the denial of basic life-saving medical care. if someone has an ept optic pregnancy, if you don't have a dnc, will you die. it is similar to many other problems that women will have that they need access to medical care to save her lives. and the decision was written with such a broad brush, it is just mcin its impact to most of america for 40 years of their

life. 51% of americans will be of child bearing age for about 40 years. >> senator kirsten gillibrand, thank you very much for being on this morning. we look forward to talk to you again soon. so, if control of the house of representatives does change hands in november, republican leaders have already promised a slew of investigations and hearings into the biden administration. potential future speaker of house minority leader ken mccarthy has threatened to launch an investigation into the attorney general and doj in response to the mar-a-lago search. the soon to be retired dr. fauci and the secretary of homeland security are also likely targets for a republican majority. author robert kuttner writes about this impending inquisition in a new piece for the american prospect. quote, republicans are salivating over the prospects of

taking control of the house, not because of their power to lentil slate, president biden still holds the veto pen but because of their power to harass. committed chairs in waiting are already laying plans for multiple inquisitions. top of the list, attorney general merrick garland and his investigation and likely prosecution of former president trump. kevin mccarthy wrote after the search of mar-a-lago, the attorney general should preserve your documents and clear your calendar, fbi chief christopher wray also aprime target. >> a republican appointed by donald trump. >> another of the republican ultras, representative jim jordan of ohio, close mccarthy ally, would become chair of the judiciary committee, a prime focus of harassment of the justice department. and robert kuttner joins us now. also with us for this conversation, former senior

adviser for the house over sight committee kurt bardella. good to have you both with us. >> thank you for being with us. we have all of these threats, that are out, i guess it is toin -- to intimidate. you have threatening violence if donald trump is held to account and if laws apply to donald trump like they would to say lindsey graham, but you also have newt gingrich saying that members of the january 6 committee should face jail time, should expect to be prosecuted in the future. the extremism, the politicalization of this, criminalization of politics, reaching all new levels now with these republicans who may be running congress. >> well some of this is pure harassment. i mean, the case of hunter biden. or the case of fauci, he's going to be 82 years old, the man is

leaving office and they're still going after him for this fable about the virus originating in labs in wuhan and their faulting him for not finding out about it. so some of this could be dismissed as pure harassment. some of guess you could almost excuse as ordinary oversight when the opposition party takes power, but the really alarming thing, the most alarming thing is to go after the attorney general and the fbi when an active investigation is in progress to try to interfere with the ability of the nation's chief law enforcement officer to do a criminal investigation. that's really messing with the separation of powers in a very fundamental way. the other thing that is really very troubling here is that they are going to go after the january 6th committee. they're going to do their own january 6th report. the only good thing i can say about this is that this kind of stuff if they actually do it, you know, tends to backfire

politically. i mean, as we heard from senator gillibrand, voters are sick of this stuff and republican extremism seems to be backfiring. the only thing we can hope is that it back fires in time for november, especially with reproductive rights being so powerful in so many races. so that the republicans don't get a chance to do this. and that prospect is actually in the last two or three weeks, as you know, looking so much brighter than it did early on, of course, most recently with sarah palin losing and a democrat taking that seat in alaska. maybe, maybe we will be spared this fate. >> kurt, let's play the game, though, that if the republicans do win and they do take the house, this is a scenario that you, of course, know well having worked for the house oversight government reform committee. maybe scare us a little bit. what would this look like? gop has control, they've got the power of the subpoena, what do they do? >> well, jonathan, on day one of

the new congress they are going to send a slue of subpoenas to the white house, to the biden administration. they're going to start going after hunter biden. they're going to start going after department of homeland security. they're going to scrutinize and investigate every single decision that has been made by this white house and they're going to look to politicize everything. it's the same playbook they used against barack obama. when president obama was elected republicans had no idea in congress what to do about that. he was incredibly popular, he came in on a wave of overwhelming support, republicans were paralyzed with fear. the only thing they could think of to do was use the power of the oversight committee to try to do death by 1,000 cuts. we saw operation fast and furious which culminated with the attorney general being held in contempt of congress. we saw things like benghazi, we saw things like investigating the irs and over time a narrative built that was very powerful for republicans. they didn't do a whole lot when they had the reins of power, they didn't pass a lot of legislation, they didn't get a lot of things done, but the one

thing that unified this group was the oversight investigations at a time when the leadership was under fire, they were under attack from their own caucus, the tea party was fighting with john boehner. the only thing that unified them was the oversight committee's work, that's what they will look to replicate this time if they take over power. >> co-founder and co-editor of the american press robert kuttner, the author of "going big: fdr's legacy, biden's new deal and the struggle to save democracy." and the morning papers are next. democracy. and the morning papers are next i go to spin classes with my coworkers. good for you, shingles doesn't care. because no matter how healthy you feel, your risk of shingles sharply increases after age 50. but shingrix protects. proven over 90% effective, shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shingles in adults 50 years and older.

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"morning joe" family, vicky blooston is the heart of the nbc newsroom in washington, d.c. helping get much of what you see on the care every day on the air. after an incredible 30-plus years with the network, vicky is retiring. vicky, we thank you for your decades of dedication and we wish you a happy retirement. just personally for joe and willie and me and jonathan, but when we would come to washington over the past 15 years on the show it was vicky who was always there with open arms and she was so kind. >> she was great. >> and good to our show before our show was even a show. >> she was. and she was nice. >> she's the best. >> and she talked to me. >> she talked to even joe. >> even before everybody else in the nbc bureau down in washington talked to me 15 years ago. >> some still don't. >> well, most do now. >> we love you, vicky. >> vicky, jonathan lemire, she really is an institution there

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