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promote the american rescue plan, a day after delivering a forceful speech saying his predecessor and maga republicans are trying to undermine democracy. we will break down his message. breaking news, the august jobs report is out, it shows the economy at a 315,000 jobs. u.s. labor secretary marty walsh will join us live to discuss. today two former white house trump lawyers go before a federal grand jury investigating the january 6th attack, as a judge decides that a more detailed list of what the fbi seized from mar-a-lago will be made public at any moment now, but the judge delayed a ruling on that special master request. and tomorrow nasa will make another attempt to launch its powerful artemis rocket into space and get human kind one giant leap closer to returning to the moon and one day mars. ♪♪ we begin with president
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biden's message to the american people. next hour he's expected to talk about the american rescue plan and what it means for local economies. msnbc will bring that to you live as reactions pour in after president biden delivered a blistering speech last night about what he calls maga republicans and called out former president trump by name. the president accused trump and his closest supporters of peddling lies about the 2020 election, an ideology he says that poses a threat to the foundations of our republic. >> democracy cannot survive when one side believes there are only two outcomes to an election, either they win or they were cheated. you can't love your country only when you win. >> joining us now with more on this is nbc news senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell. yamiche alcindor, an nbc news washington correspondent and eddie glaude is the chair of the
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department of african american studies at princeton university, he is also an nbc news political analyst. kelly, we will start with you. what can we expect -- can we expect, rather, to hear more of this message in the next hour at the white house and also in the weeks ahead? >> reporter: well, i think today in the next hour when the president holds an event with the commerce secretary he will be focused on that topic, but certainly the president laid down some very stark markers for the next ten weeks with the midterm season and much more broadly than that, the white house has insisted his speech last night was not political, some people will hear it as political, certainly republicans have responded that way, but they have tried to say that he was really speaking about much more enduring themes. not about the next election or the next midterm cycle, but about what is at stake for the country, calling on all americans regardless of ideology to stand against political violence or election denial or things that -- that deteriorate
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the roots of democracy, the institutions that are involved. he did very pointedly and very early in his remarks call out donald trump by name and maga extremism. he also separated those republicans with whom he has worked and those he has known over the years and those who are more, shall we say, traditional republicans who don't embrace election denial or the lie of 2020 or those kinds of issues, but have conservative views and want to just have a different philosophical view of how government should function, but are not taking those positions that the president says are a danger to the republic. so this is a sweeping speech that will in many ways define the biden era in the white house. they wanted it to be big and bold. it was. he will draw critics from the republican party, but for many democrats and independents who wanted to hear this message, the president was fiery and direct,
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and they were looking for that. >> yamiche, none of the three big broadcasting networks carried biden's speech, so who was the president's audience last night and does it seem that his intended audience was listening? >> well, lindsey, this was a speech for the history books and for the american people and for anyone, republican or democrat or independent, who is worried about the election lies that are continuing to permeate the american election system. as someone who has been out on the campaign trail in the last few days, in talking to republicans who believe the false claims that the 2020 election was rigged they really do believe all of the different conspiracy theories that former president trump is peddling and are worried about whether or not another election could be stolen. of course, then you have republicans like judge ludik who said he as a republican is worried that if a republican doesn't win in 2024 that the election could be stolen from republicans that are anger.
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last night president biden was trying to speak to americans and saying the entire democracy was at stake and he wanted to reach back to january 6th and remind people that political violence is not an option, not something that is acceptable in this country. it's important that he said you can't be pro law enforcement and also pro the insurrection. you can't be pro loving your country while also be only wanting to be happy and think that the democracy is working when you win. those were key lines, i'm told, by white house officials because he wanted to make sure that people understood the stark moment we're living through. all across the country we're seeing election deniers win elections, win primaries, for critical seats like secretaries of state who run the election system. this was definitely something that i think was for a broad audience. who was listening i think is going to be a key question. it's such a partisan issue. if you are a republican, mainly someone still following the former president trump and still supporting him, you're going to see the speech as kelly said as
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political, see it as more of the same, but if you are a democrat, independent or a republican, many of them who maybe don't want to talk on camera but many republicans are also worried, you're going to see the speech as something that needed to be said, especially ahead of the midterm in 2024. >> eddie that said, when yamiche was talking about hyper partisanship, i want to point to something that peter baker said in the "new york times" and essentially where we are in this country right now is combative in order to get a point across you have to be up for a debate. what does that say about where we are right now in this country and the president's strategy as well? >> well, for any democracy to work there has to be space for deliberation, for right hand debate, for disagreement, and that disagreement is predicated upon background conditions, that is to say we agree on some background conditions that allow us to disagree. i will probably never agree with liz cheney about the particulars of policy, but we agree on the background conditions that allow us to argue. so what president biden was doing -- remember, he announced
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at the beginning equality and democracy are under assault. that this has political implications but what he was doing was kind of laying bare the existential threat to the republic. so because of this hyper partisanship, and that's really a kind of genteel description of what's going on, people are more identified with their parties than they are are democracy. what biden was doing at least for me was drawing a line in the sand. our democracy is at stake, either you're with democracy or you're against it, choose your side. and i think that was really important to do last night. >> so, yamiche, you've been on the campaign trail. was it a misstep last night -- obviously the focus was the soul of our nation and democracy but was it a misstep to not talk about the economy? what are you hearing from people on the ground about what they want to hear from the president? >> certainly pocketbook issues, inflation, the price of groceries, the price of gas, even though we've seen that come down, that is still a top issue for voters.
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in talking to democrats and independents and again those republicans who are worried about the state of our democracy, talk being the democracy, talk being what can survive in this ecosystem, that was what they were looking for for this speech. we will see the president come out, he's been talking about the economy and inflation, so white house officials will say, well, this wasn't a speech about that is correct this was a speech that he wanted to talk about sort of democracy, he wanted to talk about the election lies that are permeating the system, but of course if you are a republican you're looking at that speech and saying, okay, it's important if you want to make your points, but what about the economy, what about one of the issues that are top issues for voters. so in talking to voters i think that maybe he could have touched on inflation, touched on the idea that we're living through stressful times and living through an economic struggle, but also you could see that it was very much a decision by the white house and by president biden to focus his speech, especially as he was delivering it in historic sort of independent hall -- independence hall in philadelphia, they wanted this to be a focused speech, not a campaign rally speech, they wanted this to be a
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speech where people were focused on the idea that lies could hurt our democracy in ways that might be irreparable. >> i want to play a clip from last night. >> look at the mob that stormed the u.s. capitol on january 6th, brutally attacking law enforcement. not as insurrectionists who placed a dagger at the throat of our democracy, but they look at it as patriots. we can't be pro -- pro-insurrectionist and pro-american. they're incompatible. >> meanwhile, donald trump indicated he would consider pardoning anybody involved in the insurrection. so, eddie, yamiche says this was a speech for the history books. how will history look back at this? >> well, it all depends on what we do. you know, it's an important speech. remember, lincoln gave a speech in 1860 and what happens? we have the civil war. we have folks who reject the basic premise. there's always been this current, this thread in american
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life where there are those who are not necessarily committed to democracy, they're committed to an idea that ours must remain a white nation in the vein of old europe. i think what president biden did in that moment, it was a stark description, but he kind of created the space for people to choose the country as opposed to a party. so by creating that space, creating that distance, he's forcing -- at least he's giving people an opportunity in my view to choose the country. those people who define themselves as republican, those folks committed to certain ideology they have to choose the country in this moment and that's what i think president biden was doing last night in part. >> kelly o'donnell, yamiche alcindor, eddie glaude, thank you so much. coming up, pressuring ratcheting up on former president trump's inner circle. one of the two top former trump white house lawyers will testify before a grand jury has now arrived at court. we will talk about questions that they could face. plus, why the january 6th committee is now setting its sights on former house speaker. and then labor secretary
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it's 14 past the hour. now to a host of new developments in the investigations surrounding former president donald trump. moments ago former trump white house counsel pat cipollone arrived at the d.c. federal courthouse to testify before a federal grand jury investigating the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol and efforts to overturn the 2020 election. his former deputy, pat philbin, is also scheduled to testify today. a federal judge in georgia has denied south carolina republican senator lindsey graham's efforts to throw out a subpoena to appear before a grand jury in fulton county, georgia. the judge says he can only be asked certain questions limited to alleged efforts to get ballots thrown out because of protections he has as a senator.
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meantime, the house january 6th committee is requesting testimony from former house speaker newt gingrich. the panel wants to ask him about emails that said it obtained between gingrich and senior trump advisers in which he gave his input on tv ads that repeated false election fraud claims. and a federal judge in florida says the public can see a more detailed list of what the fbi seized from mar-a-lago, but she did not immediately rule on trump's request to appoint a special master to review the evidence seized during the search to see if it includes any privileged information. with us now to talk about all of this, nbc news reporter gary grumbach outside that federal courthouse in washington, d.c. and ken dilanian. gary, what more do we know about cipollone and philbin testifying before this grand jury? >> reporter: we know pat cipollone is inside, he arrived about 45 minutes ago, we caught him on camera coming inside. no sign yet of pat philbin.
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this is a unique situation. the multiple investigations that are going on into the same topic of january 6th, we know what pat cipollone thinks because he has been deposed before, he was deposed before the house investigation into january 6 by those investigators, i was outside when he was inside for about seven hours and did he it on camera because we saw some of that video in those january 6th hearings. we saw and we know that he believes that he agrees with attorney general barr that the election was not stolen and that there was no widespread voter fraud, and he also said he knew that if donald trump went down to the capitol on january 6th he would be charged with, quote, every crime imaginable. this is a unique situation because the grand jury here is likely going to learn a lot more about what happened in and around the white house, in and around january 6th, because of the fact that the executive privilege claims cannot be made as seriously here as they can be even before those house investigators. so there's a lot that can happen
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here because of usa versus nixon a supreme court case saying the executive privilege in a criminal investigation cannot be claimed. >> ken, yesterday's hearing in florida was the first time the justice department and trump's attorneys really squared off in court since that search. what happened and where do things go from here? >> good morning, lindsey. so judge canon has not ruined, as you said, yet, on the issue of whether she will impose a special master in this case to review privileged documents, although she hinted she may still do that in a limited way. she said it wouldn't interfere -- suggested it wouldn't interfere with the ongoing damage assessment by the intelligence committee reviewing these classified documents. when you think about it there would be nothing privileged about any of the classified documents seized at mar-a-lago. she also said she would unseal this more detailed inventory she asked the justice department to file of everything they've seized. notably she did not order the fbi to stop looking at these documents and they've said they've already done a preliminary review of everything they've seized.
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when you take a step back it was really interesting what the trump side did argue yesterday and what they didn't argue. they did not -- trump's lawyers did not repeat trump's assertion he's been making since this thing blew up and the i sergs by his allies that he as president had somehow declassified these documents that we've seen in the photo marked top secret and have heard about other very sensitive documents. the lawyers did not argue that in their brief, did not argue that in court. to the contrary, what they said was this was a dispute about presidential records and of course presidential records would include highly sensitive material. they compared it to an overdue library book and said that the doj was trying to criminalize something that should be a negotiation with the archives. that flies in the face of a lot of facts we already know in this case including the fact that there were grand jury subpoenas demanding these documents and then the justice department says they were lied to about the existence, the continued existence of more classified documents at mar-a-lago. this is -- right at this moment we don't know -- it's hard for
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me to discern from yesterday what donald trump's defense is either to the charge of mishandling classified documents or the potential charge of obstruction of justice, lindsey. >> okay. gary and ken, thank you very much. we will take a deeper dive with betsy woodruff swan national correspondent for "politico" and chuck rosenberg a former usa attorney and senior fbi official. betsy and chuck are msnbc contributors. chuck, i'm going to let you respond to what ken just said, it's confusing what the defense is. we know in the hearing that trump's lawyers compared this basically keeping an overdue library book, simplifying the dispute to that level. what do you make of that? >> yeah, i think that's a remarkably silly argument, lindsey. if i gave an overdue library book to a russian intelligence officer i don't think i would do very much harm to the national security of the united states, however, if i gave somebody like that, a russian intelligence officer, top secret sci
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classified information i could do grave damage to the national security of the united states. so i don't think lawyers do their clients any service at all by making foolish arguments in court. i understand that some of these arguments are not really intended for court, they're intended for public consumption, but if you are litigating something, lindsey, and you're litigating it in court in front of a federal judge, i think more sophisticated arguments might help your case a little bit more than silly ones. >> all right. chuck rosenberg there with the mic drop. betsy, i want to ask you what stuck out most to you in the hearing yesterday and also what the public can possibly learn from that detailed property list once it becomes public. >> it very much depends on just how much detail there is in this property list. one of the biggest questions is how much damage was incurred by the fact that trump took these really sensitive materials and
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stored them for more than a year in profoundly unsecure locations. some of the things that the intelligence community is going to be most deeply concerned about are the possibility that those documents if they were viewed by the wrong person could put human sources of u.s. intelligence at risk. people in adversarial foreign countries risk their lives to provide sensitive intelligence to the united states. if there's anything in those documents that could help america's adversaries identify who those human sources are, then those people's lives and their families' lives could be in grave jeopardy. obviously that's a really big, really important if, that's why the intelligence community has been moving to assess the damage done by the mishandling of these documents. it's possible that when we get more detail about what documents
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were mishandled by trump and by the folks working for him we will have a clearer sense of just how much danger was or perhaps was not incurred by the fact that these documents were stored so inn securely. and of course that line about an overdue library book really kind of sticks in your head. i think you could say it's the perfect analogy if the overdue library book was full of highly sensitive classified material perhaps related to key state secrets, but i personally have not checked out a lot of library books that would meet that description. >> so noting your point there, i want to catch everybody up to speed of that more detailed property list has been released and ken dilanian is going through it now. before we bring him in -- are you ready, ken? >> sure, i can tell you -- i mean, i can tell you what i'm seeing right now which is there's two documents that have been released, the justice department is giving the judge sort of a status report of what they've done in terms of reviewing the documents and
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they've confirmed that they have been through every single document that they've seized from mar-a-lago except for the 60 or so that were taken away by the filter team because there's a question of whether they're subject to attorney/client privilege. what they're saying s judge, we are reviewing all these documents and we're using them even now as part of our investigation to conduct grand jury interviews and to do -- to take further investigative steps. and then they've filed -- i'm now just looking at this more detailed inventory. it's not terribly revelatory beyond what we already know. i mean, you know, there's items like articles of clothing, book, u.s. government documents, photographs without classification markings, government documents with confidential classification markings, u.s. government document with secret classification marking. so it's just a more detailed rendition of every item that they've seized without actually telling us what these items are beyond a very generic label. so it doesn't look like this is
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going to really add to our understanding of, you know, of what more they've seized and certainly you wouldn't expect -- they could not actually sort of read out the specifics of what kinds of classified documents they seized from mar-a-lago beyond what they've already said which is some of them were incredibly highly classified with top secret sci markings and markings suggesting they were compartmented, but they are not going to say, you know, which program it was related to, that's obviously very much a state secret of the united states. so what they've done here is just a more detailed inventory of generic categories of items, lindsey. >> chuck, i want to throw this to you because you're familiar with seeing these kinds of evidence lists and property lists. does it surprise you that this isn't entirely revelatory or is that what you were expecting? >> it's exactly what i was expecting, lindsey. it would have surprised me if it was revelatory. the purpose of a return or an itemized list or inventory of what was seized is to tell the court and to tell the subject of
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the search what's now in the government's possession. if you want to know what actually happened and the basis for the search and the facts that constitute probable cause, you need to see the parts of the affidavit that are redacted, but there is no way the government is going to detail its case in an inventory list. so i think ken's description of it is exactly right and exactly what we expected. it would be a little more detailed, but for those of us curious about the underlying basis for the warrant and the probable cause statements, no, it's not going to help at all. >> does that leave you to believe this detailed list, chuck, if ken is saying clothes, book, classified documents, is that further evidence that these documents were stored with just other regular everyday items in an office that, by the way, trump's own attorney said this week on "hannity" had access to guests, that the president hosted multiple guests in the 45 office at mar-a-lago? >> yeah, that's an interesting question, lindsey.
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so it struck me, for instance, that some of the documents that were highly classified were recovered from his office and apparently from his desk drawer. so it's one thing for mr. trump to say, i had no idea we had this stuff in the basement, i didn't pack these boxes, i didn't move these boxes, i didn't put them in my basement and i sure didn't look through them, but when you start to see these types of documents intermingled with his personal items, clothing, passports, found inside his desk drawer, that makes it much more difficult for him to walk away from this whole thing saying my hands are clean and i had nothing to do with it. now, that doesn't mean that he's going to be charged with mishandling, but the reason that the fbi would seize some of those personal effects -- and the reason they would look in his personal office -- is because if you find that stuff there it makes it much more likely that he knew it was there and that's an important fact for agents and prosecutors. >> ken, to you now.
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>> lindsey, i'm just struck by the extent to which -- according to this venn tore -- there were classified documents in various different boxes in the storage room at mar-a-lago because it's really striking in light of the fact that we know that the custodian of records who we believe was one of trump's lawyers signed a document back in may or june, i'm forgetting now, asserting to the justice department that they had done a search and there were no more classified documents. at the same time a justice department official was down at mar-a-lago and is saying -- the justice department is saying that they were not allowed to look in the boxes. and what this shows is a simple review of these boxes that were sitting in that storage room would have revealed documents with classified markings. so it's unimaginable that they told the justice department they weren't there. i mean, that's -- that's essentially the heart of what we're dealing with right now is not just a case about classified documents but a case about lying and deceit when these things were in plain sight.
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>> chuck torques ken's point we know through the doj filing that they did, i believe it was tuesday or wednesday night at midnight in which they said -- trump's attorney swore on an affidavit, signed on an affidavit saying, yes, all records have been returned, but then also the doj in a blistering response said in a short amount of time we found twice as many confidential documents than were initially handed over. >> interesting. first, it makes the witnesses -- i'm sorry, it makes the attorneys very likely witnesses in the case and ethical rules preclude an individual from being both a lawyer in a case and a witness in a case. so they may end up as witnesses and not lawyers. second, the question we have to answer is why the statement to the government was false. right? so there's a couple of possibilities. one is that the lawyers did a really, really bad job, they didn't look at the hard, they didn't look in the right places,
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they just didn't try or they got it wrong, but being a bad lawyer is not a crime, if being a bad lawyer was a crime there would be a lot more people in jail. second, they could have been misled by their client. the client could have said, i've taken care of this, i've looked, i've had other people look and there's nothing else there, just write the letter, and they did, and that would be foolish to rely on your client for that representation, but, again, if you didn't know that your representation was false, even if it was false, that's not a crime. there's another possibility, that they knew that there were more documents but they falsely stated to the government that there were not, and if you do that intentionally, knowing that the statement you make, lindsey, is false, that could be a crime. so you have these different scenarios along a spectrum from really sort of sloppy, lack of due diligence, trusting your client, being misled all the way
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and up to intentionally telling the government something that wasn't true. from no crime all the way up to a serious crime, and we don't know which one it is yet. >> betsy, i'm taking a look at the detailed inventory list right now and talk to me about what you know about your reporting and you know how the former president operates. for example, item number 10, box or container from the storage room, 38 magazines, newspaper, press articles, 11 government documents with could have dimension, 21 with secret, three articles of clothing/gift items, one book and 255 government documents/photos without classification markings. how do we know how the former president stored information for all of this to be lumped together. >> people close of him describe him as sentimental and sometimes as a bit of a packrat, as a person who liked souvenirs,
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liked little tokens from the different events and travel that he went on and also perhaps more than just about anything as someone who is keenly, keenly, keenly interested in the way that the national media covered his presidency. so the fact that you have a box that contains things like clothing, as well as media coverage of trump during his time in the white house, that certainly makes sense. now, obviously the huge problem here is that those items which would presumably be perfectly appropriate for the president to take unless they were governed by the rules about gifts, that those items would be mixed up with incredibly sensitive classified materials, and regardless of classification status, with materials that contain sensitive national security information. for the justice department that itself is a key concern. we know the statutes that they listed on that initial search warrant don't actually relate to whether or not material is
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classified, but importantly look at whether or not material is pertinent and important to the united states national defense. trump himself though not his lawyers in court has argued that he had -- that he declassified a lot of this stuff, but whether or not trump said magic words over pieces of paper has no bearing on whether or not the contents of those documents contains information and material that in the wrong hands could create major national security problems for this country. >> all right. betsy woodruff swan, chuck rosenberg, ken dilanian, grateful to have all of you. we will be following this all da i on msnbc. we do want to turn to the economy because we have new job numbers. the government says employers added 315,000 jobs in august, in line with expectations, but much lower than july. the unemployment rate rose to 3.7%. when you break it down by race the hispanic unemployment rate
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jumps by 0.6%, the black unemployment rate rose by 0.4%. a half hour from now president biden is scheduled to speak about the american rescue plan and could also react to this august jobs report during his remarks. with us to talk about this is u.s. labor secretary marty walsh secretary walsh, good morning. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me this morning. >> so what are your thoughts on this august jobs report? where do you see signs for improvement still? >> well, it's a good strong report. where i think we didn't talk about this, but the job participation number went up and more americans went looking for jobs and got back into the workforce than the previous month. i think that that's -- that's a space that if we continue to see that number grow i will take a 3.7% unemployment rate every day if we're getting more and more people back into the job market, particularly with the job openings that we still have in the united states. >> we're going to dive into that a little bit further.
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first i want to ask you the administration so far has been able to stave off a recession, the national bureau of economic research looks at data like this when considering whether we are in one. what's working and what more are you doing? >> i think what's working is president biden's economic plan. i mean, i am not -- you know, i'm not one of those folks that believed we were headed towards a recession or even right now headed towards a recession. i think that companies are still hiring, people are still moving around, getting good jobs, people are coming back into the workforce. you know, the american rescue plan that the president passed aed in the beginning of his administration that money has gone into job training, workforce development, apprenticeships, we're spending that money right and working with businesses and companies on making sure we're getting people prepared for the jobs that are open. we need to continue to make those investments, continue to work with states and mayors across the country. we're seeing companies grow. i was at a meeting not too long ago at the white house talking with cybersecurity experts and they were saying they need 700,000 people over the next five years. i was at a meeting yesterday with the first lady talking
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about teachers, we need more teachers in our schools. so there's plenty of opportunity for employment in this country. what we need to do is make sure that the american people are prepared to get into those jobs. >> secretary, a lot of americans right now obviously are feeling the pinch of inflation and wages are increasing, but not at the level -- the same rate as inflation. so what is your administration need to do so that families aren't struggling just to put food on the table or gas in the tank? >> well, i think it's not just an administration issue, it's a worldwide issue. inflation is hitting everyone across the globe and certainly in other parts of the world the inflation numbers are a lot higher than the united states of america. in saying that the president several months ago responded to the gas prices going up, reduce some reserves, oil reserves, put them out there, release oil reserves. we're seeing gas prices come down for the last eight and a half straight weeks, seeing some easing on inflationary pressures with costs, part is due to the pandemic and supply chain
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issues. the president also is working to make sure with the inflation reduction act that we continue to counterattack inflation. you know, we will have to wait and see what happens next in the next few weeks with inflation numbers but we're starting to see numbers coming down, the federal reserve have their own process they are working on to bring down inflationary pressure. i think that the beauty about this when i think about the economy i look and see what's available for opportunities for employment and even though we have some layoffs sporadically around the country in different companies people are still finding good jobs to go to and people are leaving one job and going to another job looking for better wages. so 5.2% year over year is probably as far as increases in wages is the highest we've seen in quite some time. the inflation kind of wipes that gain out. we need to continue bringing those prices down. >> ekt is, you've mentioned it here but also earlier this week you talked to fortune magazine about what you believe is the biggest threat facing our economy saying it's about finding workers, our employers, our economy in this country over
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the next several years is going to focus on the lack of workers because we don't have them, they are not physically here. talk to me about what you mean by that. where the workers are, are they looking for higher wage jobs, remote work, and what needs to happen here to stave this off? >> yeah, for the last six months, you know, i've been getting questions and we've been hearing reports about inflation and about heading towards a recession. when you look at the other side of the coin we have 11 million job openings in the united states of america, we have 5 to 6 million people eligible for those job openings. we have a shortfall of workers. it's not even people, we don't have enough people, i should say, to fill those jobs. as i go around the country when i talk to large and small employers, particularly large ones, i ask them about the question of im frags and they agree that we need to create an immigration reform package not get caught up in the conversation around what's happening at the border but actually a real immigration conversation with a bill that we
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address the issue of the 13 million people in this country that are undocumented right now living in the shadows and also look at people, how do we get legal immigration into this country. we have students that come to school here and get educated in our colleges and universities and we send them back home. we're the only country in the world that does that. we should be thinking about a pathway, a sponsor program or what have you. this is not a connecticut or republican issue, historically it has been a bipartisan issue we've dealt with, but if both sides don't sit at the table and have a conversation about this, that in my opinion was the most important thing that's going to hurt our economy moving forward. >> secretary marty walsh, we will leave it there for today. thank you. treasury secretary janet yellen will join my colleague andrea mitchell today at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. spa civic. coming up as the west coast suffers through its own weather crisis the troubling connection found between how much money a person makes and heat related visits to the emergency room. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports." reports. ♪
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42 past the hour. now to the latest on the war in ukraine. this morning a team of u.n. inspectors on day two of the assessing the safety of the europe's largest nuclear power plant. right now five inspectors are inside the plant, which remains under russian control. ukraine's president is accusing russia of staging the visit and not giving the inspectors a full access they need to prevent nuclear disaster. joining us right now from dnipro, ukraine, is nbc news correspondent jay gray. what do we know about what the u.n. team is being able to inspect? >> reporter: lindsey, a lot of that depends on who you ask right now. what the team inside the plant has said is that they've had pretty good access, they've seen a majority of what is a large -- the largest nuclear power plant in europe and that they're continuing to see more, but if you ask ukrainian officials they will tell you that that team has been hindered in doing their job
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and they at this point don't believe the group will be able to make an impartial assessment of the situation because of russian soldiers that occupy the plant. they say they've been withheld from the crisis room, which is a place they need to see, but because it's been held according to ukrainian officials as a spot for russian soldiers they are not allowed inside. they also say that many of the interviews with those ukrainian employees who have continued under the rule of russian soldiers to run that plant have been done with the russian soldiers' presence so it hasn't been a free and open dialogue and there is a lot of concern from those here in ukraine that they are not getting a full picture of what's going on inside that plant. what we do know from the director is that even with what they've seen there is significant damage there. >> it is obvious that the plant
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and the physical integrity of the plant has been violated several times, by chance, by denigration, we don't have the elements to assess that. >> reporter: yeah, and, look, there's been intense shelling over the last month in the area, both sides blaming one another for that shell. now, there were indication that is this group would stay through perhaps sunday or even monday. now what they are saying is that while some of those investigators will leave, there will be a full-time presence on the ground there. that hasn't been confirmed by either russian officials or ukrainian officials. so that's just adding to the confusion, to the frustration and the real concern about what's going on at that nuclear plant. >> the whole world is watching. jay gray, thank you. we want to get back now to our breaking news this hour, a federal judge has unsealed a detailed property list of the evidence seized by former president donald trump's mar-a-lago estate during that search earlier in august.
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nbc news justice reporter ryan riley joins us right now. ryan, i want to talk to you about what you're learning from this list. we have 47 folders that were marked as classified? in addition to those hundreds of classified documents they found at mar-a-lago after a representative for the former president represented that there were no more classified documents left at mar-a-lago, what really jumps out at me is by my count there are more than 10,000 government documents that donald trump was not supposed to possess, those are the documents, just the documents along that do not have any classification markings on them, but regardless of classification status here that's 10,000 documents that got -- donald trump possessed that he wasn't supposed to stored in these bins. all of these created during donald trump's presidency belong to the american people under the presidential records act. there is a reason we have that in place because post watergate and the richard nixon era. we need to have a record for history of what exactly went down. scholars will be studying the trump era for generations and
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the idea that he pilfered 10,000 government documents is sort of really significant here because those are documents that properly belong under the control of the national archives for future generation toss look at. on top of all of these secret and top classified documents that he wasn't supposed to have along with tens of thousands -- or 10,000 documents that he wasn't supposed to have all together. >> all right. ryan riley, i know you and your team are continuing to go through this list and analyze it. we can expect to see more of you today. thanks so much. and as the west coast suffers through its own weather crisis, the troubling new connection found between income and heat-related visits to the er. that story is next. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports." t reports.
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gaby schwartz. what are we seeing. the disparities here? >> we will show you a fascinating heat map that is highlighting a lot of people in underserved communities are trying to bring attention to for decade. you have a massive heat wave like this, not everyone will feel the effects equally. in los angeles so much starts with who has trees in their neighborhood and who doesn't. on the eve of its biggest heat wave of the year, heading out across los angeles, a city where the climate is causing a health crisis. the first stop was to meet this person the first-ever heat officer. los angeles has a chief heat officer. why? >> because heat is our primary climate hazard. >> reporter: it is causing severe health areas in the l.a. area from the following. not everyone is facing the same risk. martha says it depends on where
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you live. >> we have difference in geography and wind and everybody knows. what everybody doesn't know is that there have been historic disinvestments in certain neighborhoods that never got the trees, that never got the shade, that never got vegetation. >> reporter: we will do a quick experiment. 120 on the pavement and 120 on the sidewalk. but over here in the shade, that grass -- whoa! 66! >> yep. >> if we look at the building, the building is about 66, 70 degrees too. >> the building not only keeps people cooler over there, but the utility bills are much less than somebody who doesn't have shade. >> reporter: when you're driving around on a hot day like this and you realize that there is a correlation between the amount of trees you see in a neighborhood and the amount of people that are going to the hospital for heat-related stress, it makes you see the
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city very differently. and that difference has now been documented by a new ucla school of public health map that tallies heat-related emergency room visits by zip codes showing why disparities in the city. >> some of these difference between neighboring zip codes are three times higher. they technical should have very similar meteorological paernts patterns but we see excess emergency visits during heat incidents. >> we will see valleys and neighborhood where there is almost no tree coverage and they are expected to see temperatures in the triple digits week long. >> we are a community where there is three freeways cutting through. >> reporter: when a heat wave like this comes through, people say stay inside and use your air-conditioning. but the truth is not everybody can afford it, right?
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>> yes. we know that heat affects population by age and the two ages that are affected most by heat wave are senior citizens and college students. >> reporter: the reality is people have been dying, people will die and, for them, it's too late? >> based on the income, based on the age, definitely this is the kind of place where something like that might happen. >> reporter: it's important to remember that heat is the number one weather-related killer in the united states. cdc says between 2018 and 2020, overall 3,000 people died because of heat-related stresses. if you live in southern california and you have vulnerable neighbors, this is a very good week to check in with them. >> i have a quick question. what does this mean for communities that are experiencing drought and are actually being insensitived to go to zero scape where they love grass or trees? >> the big push right now is to have areas where people can go and escape the heat, especially
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in these types of neighborhoods and that means setting up areas like libraries or gyms or places where they have air-conditioning. in terms of the drought, that is a longer conversation. the city is having that right now with a lot of the emphasis going on protecting trees, but, again, scaling back on water. >> thanks so much. that wraps up this hour for me. e the unknown is not empty. it's a storm that crashes, and consumes, replacing thought with worry. but one thing can calm uncertainty. an answer. uncovered through exploration, teamwork, and innovation. an answer that leads to even more answers. mayo clinic. you know where to go. age is just a number. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health.
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yasmin.. it is quite a friday morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian. a very busy hour ahead for you. breaking news. as you know by now, the former president's ongoing legal saga. a judge has unsealed a vel detailed inventory of what was seized during the fbi search of mar-a-lago. we can see more about the highly classified records and how they were mixed in with personal items as well. news articles, clothing. at the same time, we are still waiting for a decision from the judge on the trump legal team's request for a special master to review what was seized. more on all of that in moments. plus, any second now, the president is set to speak about his administration's economic investments. we will be watching that as well as you see there. just in the last couple of hours, we have been pouring over the new economy and adding 15,000 jobs a few thousand shy of
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