yasmin.. it is quite a friday morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian. a very busy hour ahead for you. breaking news. as you know by now, the former president's ongoing legal saga. a judge has unsealed a vel detailed inventory of what was seized during the fbi search of mar-a-lago. we can see more about the highly classified records and how they were mixed in with personal items as well. news articles, clothing. at the same time, we are still waiting for a decision from the judge on the trump legal team's request for a special master to review what was seized. more on all of that in moments. plus, any second now, the president is set to speak about his administration's economic investments. we will be watching that as well as you see there. just in the last couple of hours, we have been pouring over the new economy and adding 15,000 jobs a few thousand shy of shipments, while the

unemployment rate ticked up. the question is how about the federal reserve react as it tries to tame inflation. more on that is ahead as well. while the president is addressing the academic concerns from voters ahead of the midterms, the other issue at the top of their list is threats to democracy. last night, in philadelphia, he took aim at the former president by name and his supporters who he has been branding maga republicans. listen to this. >> what is happening in our country today is not normal. donald trump and the maga republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic. maga republicans do not respect the constitution. >> contrast that message with donald trump just hours before that, helping january 6 writers financially, people who pushed our democracy to that edge.

adding this pledge. quote. >> all right. let's get into some of this with my panel. shannon is covering the white house. von is in west palm beach near mar-a-lago. ashley parker is with me. glenn kirschner and welcome, everybody. we got a lot to get through in this hour. i've been poring over the detailed list released the last 30 minutes or so, what stood out to me essentially, i ticked through the numbers of top secret documents. you got 18 in total top secret documents that were found during the most recent search in early august. 53 of those secret as well. a number of confidential. much of which was mixed in with

newspaper articles, clippings, clothing shoved into some of these boxes that were retained by the department of judge. what more are we learning from this detailed list? of course, when we could hear about a decision from judge cannon about the appointment or not of the special master? >> right yes. before we set up the numbers what the court just revealed as part of this unreaddicted, more detailed list of documents that were seized on august 8th, we got to continually repeat that, again, the custodian of records signing on behalf of donald trump on june 3rd contended that all of these relevant documents had been turned over to the department of justice as requested through sta that subpoena. that is where when we are looking at these numbers that were just released the last 25, 30 minutes, they are quite telling here. you're looking at numbers. 54 documents labeled secret. again, these documents were recovered from two different places. the storage room, as well as his personal office here. but they were located across 15

different places, 15 different boxes, cartons. again, we are talking about 54 documents labeled secret. 18 documents labeled top secret. 31 documents labeled confidential. 11,179 other u.s. documents and photographs. we don't know what this means or whether the documents were also recovered as part of this search warrant execution, but of justin this document 37 empty folders with, quote, classified banners and 42 empty labeled with, quote, return to staff secretary and military aid and that was recovered on the search warrant. as for the master we don't have that ruling at this time. it could come this afternoon. it could come over the weekend. we know the doj but the trump team requested if the judge were to order the appointment of a special master they had requested that they provide a

joint list of potential options for who that special master would be. date that they listed they wished to have that list presented by was september 7th, which is this upcoming wednesday. of course, we are still waiting for the judge, before the judge would even look at that special master list to see whether that special master with be approved or appointed or not. >> as we wait whether a special master is being appointed, glenn, we are looking at the things seized from that mar-a-lago search. what stands out to you? the follow-up is this detailed list wasn't asked by the trump team. from your estimation, do you think this serves the doj case or the trump case or the appointment of a special master? >> yes. it's hard to predict, you know, whose position is bolstered by the release of this. i don't want to speculate

because i could read it either way. first of all, i think we should remember the detailed inventory that was just released was documenting the evidence of crime that was seized from mar-a-lago. it's evidence of crime because that is what the judge authorized the fbi to seize, evidence of crime. when i was reading through the eight-page inventory quickly, i saw something that made my heart sink when i saw that there were many, many folders, empty folders labeled classified with classified banners or labeled staff secretary, military aid and they were supposed to be returned to these people. do we really think donald trump personally or had his aides pack up empty folders that should have -- that should have contained classified materials? now maybe they were taken out and tossed somewhere else. but, boy, i think it's an ominous sign there are so many empty folders that should have

contained classified materials. >> what are you thinking there, glenn? can you pull on that thread a little bit? are you saying you feel there are possibly more documents that are somewhere else that have been stored by the trump team and/or the foreign president, himself, that the government did not, in fact, find during this latest search? >> that is my fear, yes. when you have dozens of folders should sane classified documents. i'm sure the department will try to piece together what should have been in those folders and account each and everyone or donald trump done something with them that could further damage our national security? that is what made my heart sink. >> ashley, we are getting a eleven in from kevin mccarthy. i want to read a little bit of it for everybody to hear as to what mccarthy is actually asking for here from the department of justice specifically. before we get into that, vaughn,

quickly, have we heard anything yet from the former president and/or his team since the release of this material? >> reporter: as far as i've seen, i'll check here as we speak here, i have not seen anything. he has taken to a habit posting on social. i'll check through this. i can tell you there is no word from trump's team at this time. they have contended here throughout this process that these documents were declassified, though their attorneys did not argue that in court yesterday. they have contended not only attorney-client privilege but executive privilege and that is what the judge is mulling over and whether to appoint the special master or not. >> raise your hand if we get a reaction from either his team or the former president himself. let me read for you from mccarthy's letter to the doj specifically. it's a little bit long but i think some of it is important for us to get context what is he asking here. mccarthy says this.

department of justice will speak through its court filings and its work and continuing standing department rules and our ethical obligations prevent me from providing further details as to the basis of search at this time yet just hours later on that very same day, quote, people familiar with the investigation began planting stories in the press purportedly to leak purported information. this conduct claiming that the doj cannot allow anonymous leaks to create a one-sided narrative eliminates the doj claim to continue with the shroud of secretory. you say more information will be made at the appropriate way and the appropriate time. the appropriate time is now. the appropriate way is to publicly appear before and answer these important questions to the congressional committees of jurisdiction that oversee your department. it's a long letter! about a page and a half here

signed by jim jordan as well. james [ inaudible ] and mike turner a ranking member but signed specifically by kevin mccarthy, the house republican leader. talk to me about your reaction, what we are reading in this letter. to a certain extent the department of judge has been transparent more so especially because of the asks of the trump team in the last couple of days or so. >> that's right. there is a certain irony here which is that, you know, attorney general merrick garland said this is what biden and garland wanted is reestablish the justice department as a truly independent agency above partisan politics, above politics, and not giving marching orders from the white house. now, that is a tremendous contrast to how former president trump viewed his department of justice and his attorney general whom he wanted to be sort of a fixer, a personal attorney, and it is actually to the point

where some people will in the biden administration have even been a little frustrated with how opaque merrick garland and the justice department feel. they say if he were to resign or retire tomorrow they would find out in the press like everybody else. this is the justice department that is taking tremendous pains, that understands just how politicized, even though the justice department that politicized it just how politicized the moment is and the finn raid on mar-a-lago is and is really trying stay hard above partisan politics in part learning from the example of james comey who did under hillary clinton go out and speak publicly in a way that frustrated democrats and i believe cost hillary clinton the election. >> we have a lot going on this hour, although we could be talking about this for the entire hour and shannon, let me go to you on this. we heard the prime time speech last night from the president

talking about the fight for the soul of this nation and lead up to the midterm elections. does the white house feel as if he got his message across? how do they feel as it is being received especially as we await the president once again to talk about economic investments his administration is making? >> certainly this is a message that the president really wanted to get out there. the white house has said that this is a speech the president wanted to give for quite sometime. they said it is not tied to all of the events going on with mar-a-lago and the search of the former president's home and all of that. clearly, it is part of the theme here that president biden is trying to hit on when it comes to raising the alarm bells, raising the awareness among voters ahead of these midterm elections about what he sees as a threat posed by these so-called maga republicans he is referring to in these remarks opinion. he clearly is addressing most of

these comments to democrats but you can see him reach out to the moderate and republican voters who, once again, might be uncomfortable with what they are seeing from the former president play out with things like the mar-a-lago search and comments that other republicans have made in recent days around the fbi and this investigation. here is a little bit more of what president biden had to say last night when it comes to sort of trying to thread that needle between mainstream republicans and what he refers to as these maga republicans. have a listen. >> not every republican embraces their extreme ideology. i know i've been able to work with these mainstream republicans but there is no question that the republican party today is dominated, driven, intimidated by donald trump and the maga republicans. >> one other thing i would just note. you mentioned this a little bit in your intro. the president is talking about the economy. that has been a top issue for voters no months. but in our recent nbc news poll,

an issue we saw shoot to the top of voters' concerns, threats to democracy. you see the president last night addressing that very point and laying out his case for why he and democrats need to be the best ones to address that at this moment. >> michael, i think one of the questions i asked question to lead up to his prime time speech is the president waving these two issues together and addressing the daily concerns that americans have along with the threats to our democracy? he really honed in on the threats to diagnosis last night. seems like today is more about questions americans have about the growth that our economy is seeing or the lack thereof i should say depending how you see this economy right now. republicans speaking out against what the president said last night let's listen to what they had to say and then talk on the other side. >> president biden has chosen to divide, demean, and disparage his fellow americans. >> it sounds like a long-winded

description and definition of what secretary clinton called deplorables. >> michael? your reaction to that? this is a president who has not necessarily addressed directly the former president maga republicans as he is now saying as well in a way it seems because he didn't want to necessarily alienate those individuals but going on strong thousand on that. >> i've been critical to the president his willingness to take it to republicans and call them what they are which is fascist. i think now we are seeing a president ready to go to battle and ready to go to the midterms and i think taking a play out of bill clinton's playbook. he is not saying all republicans are bad but the maga wing and endorsing republicans are a threat to our democracy which is exactly what is going on. it's been nice to see the president not only talk about policy, but also talk about passion and i think that is

somewhere where he has really lacked. he is strong and he's at his best when he is talking from his heart and good to see him getting there, but also been really nice to see the white house social media team and the white house team mimic that language. they have been aggressive and taking it to republicans every day and i think what the base wants to see. >> vaughn, if you hear from the former president, if you get reaction, let us know. thank you all. up next, new employment numbers out this morning. the u.s. added 315,000 jobs just last month. the unemployment rate ticked up just slightly. we are going to talk about that what that means for the economy going forward. to top trump lawyers testifying before the january 6th committee. the latest on that investigation. new bostoners should be in pharmacies and doctor offices within days. i'll talk to dr. anthony fauci about the distribution plan

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all right, everybody. breaking news on the economy. employers added 315,000 jobs in the month of august we just learned but the unemployment rate ticked up to two points to 3.7% according to the bureau of labor statistics. wages also continue to rise although at a slightly slower pace than expected, up 0.3%.

steve and josh cover the economy. welcome to you both. appreciate it. we are talking about 315,000 jobs added and unemployment is up a bit. what is your look on this? >> yeah. well. the economy is slowing. job growth is slowing. these are still good numbers. on a given month, if we were not returning jobs from the pandemic, we would be in pretty good shape if we get 100 to 150. we are still putting jobs back from the pandemic and we are still growing. the other good part about this report was that people came back into the work force what we call the participation rate ticked up by 0.03 to 62.34% what happens is important about that what happened we had 800 thousand to

the work force and 400,000 got there and 400,000 looking for work. the key report is next month those into the work force got jobs. if not, the unemployment rate is troublesome. if they get work and find jobs, then it's not. >> josh, let's talk about what fed chair jerome powell has ahead of him, right? we had a commitment from here where he said is keeping to raise the interest rates to slow the machine down, right, because of the economy and where it's at. of course, specifically because of inflation and supply chain. if you're fed chair powell and we see the trend of the last couple of months and taking a look at interest rates going forward. where do you suspect he goes on this? . >> as steve notes the economy is slowing down but still growing. unemployment does need to go up

in order to achieve the fed's goals of getting a handle on inflation and, ideally you have more people go out there and look for jobs and creates slack in the labor market without employment declining. employment continues to go up. that is what we see here in this report. it's still one report. i think the fed still -- they have been trying to communicate very clearly that a substantial amount of additional rate increase is going to be needed to get inflation under control so i don't think they will turn on a dime about this report but this is the sort of thing they are looking for to say that their strategy is working and that we can have that adjustment un-inflation where a soft landing where we don't have a recession ideally. >> we had what the president had to say about the threat for our economy and the number one issue going into innovative but the economy is toggling back and

forth between our threat and economy and specifically because of inflation the overarching problem that americans see day-to-day when they go to the grocery stores, right? how much of an issue do you think? how much of a looming issue do you think is for democrats right now heading into november? >> the good political news for democrats is that there is a tail wind from the fact that gasoline prices, which had spiked -- >> stand by. the president is talking about the jobs report. let's listen. >> jobs. the great american jobs machine continues to come back. america workers are back to work earning more. manufacturing more. building an economy from the bottom up in the middle out. both today's news, we have now created nearly 10 million new jobs since i took office. nearly 10 million jobs. the fastest growth in all of american history. and in august, we also saw that the share of americans are working in our economy went up.

economists call that labor force partition participation rate. working age women now for the first time are back at rates work not seen since before the pandemic. wages are up. unemployment remains normally 50-year low. yesterday we got that -- we got that showed that manufacturing orders were up, but cost increases supply chain items were beginning to ease. the week before that, we got data showing that price increase may be beginning to ease as well. bottom line is jobs are up, wages are up, people are back to work, and we are seeing some signs that inflation may be, maybe i'm not overpromising, may beginning to ease. couple that with the fact that gas prices have now fallen 80 straight days. the fastest decline in over a decade. and the price at the pump is now $1.20 a gallon less than at the

beginning of the summer. america has some really good news going into the labor day weekend. we are also seeing something else critical. to the backbone of the american economy. manufacturing. manufacturing is roaring back. since i took office, the economy has created 668,000 manufacturing jobs. the strongest manufacturing recovery since the 1950s. just last week, we have seen major american companies from first solar to corning to micron announce plans to invest tens of billions -- tens of billions. it's not a misstatement. tens of billions of dollars expanding manufacturing in america. we have seen major global companies like toyota and honda announce that they are choosing america to vest in a bill. none of this is happening by accident. these investments and this recovery are direct result of my economic plan. some people gave up on american manufacturing. not me.

not the secretary. not the american people. make it in america is not just no longer a slogan. it's a relate in my administration. i'm committed to building a economy from the bottom up and heard me say that a thousand times but that is happening and that is what we are here to talk about today. big part of the american rescue plan i signed a month after we got in office, we were facing a once in a century pandemic. historic joblessness, businesses struggling to stay open. remote learning for our children. but thanks to the american rescue plan, we have come a long way. we got vaccine shots in arms, we helped people who needed it the most. we kept teachers in classroom and cops on the beat and firefighters on the job, because the local communities didn't have the money to pay for them. and, as a result, covid no longer controls our lives. more americans are working than

ever. businesses are growing. schools are open. today, we are celebrating a signature program in the american rescue and of the -- within the american rescue plan, that is going to help communities that need it most. look. it's called the bill back better regional challenge. it's centered around a vision that, as our economy recovers and modernizes, as science and technology accelerate, and change the nature of how we manufacture, we want workers and small businesses leading this transition, making sure they are a part of it, not just being shut out. instead of fearing the transition will leave them behind. we are going to help them get retrained and many there things. think of the 55-year-old businessman making a little screw and literally true for a combustible engine to cars for decades. >> president is addressing the latest job numbers out earlier this morning and pretty

positive to say the least. then, of course, addressing the bill back better regional challenge and talking what that means for workers and small businesses throughout this country. the economic investments his administration is making as well. i want to bring back my panel to weigh in on what we are hearing from the president so far. the president had a lot to say about the job numbers, obviously, going over the unemployment ticking up just a bit, right? wage growth specifically. he talked a little bit about how we have been seeing wage growth and signs, of course, we have been seeing of gas prices down the last 80 days or so which is great for americans and especially the summer as we travel on the roads. he talked specifically about the signs of inflation beginning to ease, that may be happening, right? can you talk a little bit more about that? what he could mean by that? >> yeah. the president was appropriately -- you know, he hedged himself appropriately, i think. there are some initial signs of

some easing of inflation. josh was talking earlier about the federal reserve. they are going to want to see three or four months of better data. we had one good month where the month-to-month change was zero on the headline number but the fed is looking at much more, what do you want to call it? widespread inflation in different parts, housing has to come down and service inflation has to come down and all sorts of areas that need to come down to sort of declare a victory. what is the phrase? rumors of the death of inflation i'd say are premature at best. you asked me earlier about the 30,000 -- it's an interesting question here. >> yeah. >> the job market has been really strong and it's been extraordinarily strong for any topic. at the same time we have this inflation number that is hot. you ask americans how they feel and all of the feeling is from the negative of the inflation and no positivity of the good stuff on the jobs report. >> yeah, no. true. i asked you the question which i did and i want to pick up on

when it comes to inflation and it's obvious the president knows is a problem going forward because so much positive when it comes to this economy but ever looming number that is inflation as we head towards november and how much a problem that is for democrats. >> yeah. when you look inside the inflation numbers, the reason there was no inflation in july is the gasoline prices were falling so sharply. and so just when gasoline prices were spiking, everyone was mad at the president and a huge political problem. he is getting a really political boost from that fall and contain the inflation numbers probably the next few months. the president eluded to improvement on issues related to supply chains and isn't the same good scarcity. all of these components, lumber and things have gotten very expensive and a lot of that stuff has come down. most of the economy is services and as steve eluded to, there are still worrying signs that inflation is going to be persistent on the services side of the economy and it looks sort of inside the numbers that inflation is definitely going to continue to ease in the sense

that we are not staying at 8% but the underlying numbers, the core inflation where you take out food and the fuel which vacillate up and down so much, it still looks like we are on a trend where the economy might be around 4% inflation on an ongoing basis and supposed to be at 2% and fed has more work to do but i think more a political problem for the president and democrats next year once we are done with the moderation of gasoline prices. they will not keep falling forever. >> i had a conversation a few weeks ago. we talked about how low inflation was as we were going into this pandemic. we have gotten so used to the numbers with 5%. before the pandemic below 2% with inflation. >> uh-huh. >> that is ultimately where it seems the fed chair and the rest of the country and the president wants to get back and how long it takes is the question. thank you both for rolling with me, guys. appreciate it. >> thank you. quick programming. andrea mitchell will talk to janet yellen the next hour on msnbc. don't want to miss it. all right.

a big boost in our pandemic fight as well because that is still going on. justice as the school year is beginning, summer winding down, the cdc has signed off on updated booster shots targeting the omicron variant. pfizer's booster was approved for 12 and older and moderna approved for 18 and up. joining me is dr. anthony fauci, the director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases. welcome and thank you for joining us on this. >> first. >> let's talk first about the boosters and who should be getting them and how quickly will they be out there? >> as you said correctly for the pfizer booster 12 and older and moderna booster is 18 and older. it is actually an updated vaccine is what it is. by updated, we mean it's matched to the very predominantly and

circulating ba.4 and ba.5 variant is out there more than 90% and we are still getting about 400 to 500 deaths per day. we feel it's important to get this updated matched booster or matched new vaccine to individuals, particularly those as was mentioned in the authorization by the fda and the recommendation by the cdc that if you were, in fact, got a boost two months ago, then you're eligible to be getting it now. if you've been infected about three months ago, you're eligible in getting this updated vaccine now. >> there is folks out there essentially, doctor, are saying, i've been infected. everybody i know has essentially had the omicron variant at this point. it raged through new york city specifically here. asking why do i need this booster if this booster is for the omicron variant if i've

already been infected with omicron and i was vaccinated way back when. >> well, because the immunity wanes. we have ample evidence to show that with coronavirus in general and certainly with the experience of the cause of covid-19, that, in fact, when you get infected and/or vaccinated, although you get a degree of protection for a period of time, that protection wanes. i'm actually, myself, in that category. i have been boosted, i've been vaccinated, doubly boosted, and infected and i can tell you for sure that i'm going to get this updated vaccine of the ba.4 ba.5 match variant within three months of my getting infected. for me, that is going to be three months from the time by the end of june when i was infected. i feel strongly that that is something we need to do to maintain the protection of the individual and the american

public and we ultimately would like to do, and i think it would be an important strategy, since for most of the people, not everyone because there are immunocompromised who might need it more often that we want to get into the cadence and the rhythm of about once per year get an annual shot similar somewhat to what we do with the flu shot. >> never thought i'd say this, sir, but you and i are in the same category when it comes to covid vaccine infections. i've had the same number as well! i guess it's good company to be in to say the least. are boosters coming for younger kids under the age of 12 and 5 as well these updated boosters? >> they will be. you know, the fda is working with the companies have made it clear this is something we will see in the reasonable future to get younger people than the age limits right now to get them within a reasonable period of time. >> i know your retirement is taking. first trip you're taking after you retire. where are you going? >> to my house and sit down and

relax! ha! >> sounds pretty good. sounds pretty good. i'm sure you need some relaxation right about now. if i don't speak to you now and then, congratulations, dr. fauci, on your impending retirement. it's been quite a career and a career should you proud of. thank you. >> thank you very much. i appreciate you saying that. >> good to talk to you. this morning a trouble new sign the pandemic has taken on young americans. a new report showing math and reading scores have reached their lowest point in decades. the data was collected in the first two years of the pandemic for children in the fourth grade, a crucial year for education development and economic projectry. we have more on this report. so much of what i read in this and especially as a there most of two young children was troubling concerning the trajectory that these kids have ahead and the kids that were already behind going into this pandemic. what more did you learn from this? >> i think the major takeaway for me is that scores fell across the board for everyone in

that age group. but for kids who are already at the bottom, already coming from poorer communities, communities of color, their schools, underfunded or undersupported, thorough scores fell faster and fell further and they are going to have a long way to go to catch up now. just to take math scores, for example. white students saw five-point reduction. latino students, hispanics, eight. black children, 13. >> my gosh. >> you know what? experts say the only thing that can heal this or lead to recovery is time spent in the classrooms so why you see the secretary of education talking about investment, trying to solve the teacher shortage and try to get new tutors and coaches into the classroom. but every kid has the same number of days in the year. >> yeah. >> the same amount of time in any single day. for kids who fell that far behind, we could be looking at a real generational impact and a real negative and concerning impact. you have to take into account this isn't the fact they were out of the the classroom and remote teaching but districts

that struggled to get their kids access to the internet, proper tablets or commuters they could use at home so kids weren't learning for periods of time. now they have a long, long way to go. we expect more data in the months to come but this is you know, numbers we haven't seen in decades. >> first of all, we are not talking about the emotional issues that these kids have gone through over the last, you know, two years or so during this pandemic and what toll that has caused to all of this and think about what is happening in mississippi, for instance, right? the kids going to remote learning because they don't have clean water. how about that help the situation? if kids need to be in the classroom but all of these infrastructure issues are keeping these kids out of the classrooms what is to be done? how to catch up? >> i think it's important to remember this isn't just about remote learning. a lot of people are connecting just this learning loss with time out of the classroom and all of the political, you know, debates that come around that. you have to remember many of the kids in the disadvantaged communities their communities were more likely to see a loved

one pass away from covid. some of them missed class because they were mourning? i heard what happened to a friend who is a teacher what happened to her kids in brooklyn not far from where i am right now. it's not just time in the classroom and number of teachers that have to fix this. >> maybe this will raise the alarm about the school systems suffering so long before this pandemic. we talked about kids in detroit a long time not getting supplies they need and water leaking into schools and not proper infrastructure in the school system and maybe this is is the red flag of these kids need our help, right, so they don't fall a generation. such important reporting. thank you. i appreciate it. coming up, everybody, two of former president's top white house lawyers will appear before the grand jury today investigating the january 6th attack. what it means for the investigation. jackson, mississippi, residents are getting frustrated

with five days without safe water. >> people who want clean water to bathe. i don't want to bathe my baby in jackson's water. jackson's water.

two major developments today in the investigation surrounding january 6th. former white house council pat cipollone and a former deputy white house counselor pat philbin are appearing before a

federal grand jury investigating the attack on the capitol. this is video of cipollone's arrival. he has become a key witness for the january 6th committee revealing most notably that trump did not want rioters to leave the capitol on that day. the january 6th requested yesterday that former speaker of the how and newt gingrich testify. let me have you take us through what we expect today from philbin and cipollone in their testimonies to the grand jury. >> pat cipollone arrived two hours ago. >> reporter: we have not seen pat philbin yet and expect him to arrive later this afternoon. a unique situation we know what cipollone will tell the grand jury because he said it on camera before. remember? multiple investigations into january 6th. there is a doj investigation but then also the house investigation and he testified in a deposition for more than

seven hours before the investigators where he talked and talked and talked. there video of that that was played during the january 6th hearing. so we know he agreed with attorney general barr where he said there was no widespread voter fraud and the lex was not stolen. we know he knows that if trump went to the capitol they would be charged with every crime capable. the grand jury will american more than the investigators did because of how much he is able to invoke his executive privilege with the conversations to the president. when it's a criminal investigation with the doj because usa v nixon that happened 50 years ago he cannot invoke that privilege than the house did. >> let's talk about this. we learned from cipollone's testimony to the january 6th committee. what more do you think we could learn from his grand jury testimony here, considering how key he was to their investigation?

>> well, this testimony is behind closed doors. we won't know exactly what he says for some time. but we do know that this could very well link up with threads of doj's consisting investigation and including that the one to the justice department. you recall -- jeffrey clark at the trump department and they saw more likely to investigate the claims of voter fraud and [ inaudible ] were people that were in the room where these pivotal meetings around the doj version and efforts to [ inaudible ] very well speak to like he said fewer executive privilege concerns in play here because this is a federal grand jury and not a january 6th committee. >> newt gingrich, what do you think they hope to learn from him? >> as for him, the thing is it's unclear if he is actually going to testify before the january 6th committee. i called him last night.

he declined to comment. he doesn't seem like the kind of witness who would be willing to voluntarily come before the committee and with only months left in this year, it's unclear if the january 6th committee is going to risk a court fight over subpoenaing him and if anything ensues. at the same time he clearly they wants to talk to you about the ads promoting false claims of voter fraud after the 2020 election withwhere they knew the claims had been defunked and using the claims to whip people up and email the committee showing gingrich wanted to arouse voters among these claims. >> i'm sure newt gingrich loved getting that call! thank you both. five days, that is how long people in jackson, mississippi, have now gone without safe drinking water. officials saying they are making progress and repairing the city's water planted but it's not clear how long the fix is going to take.

in the meantime, hundreds of members of the national guard have been deployed to so-called megasites across the state's capital to hand out bottled water to the residents there. morgan, you and i have talked the last couple of days as folks are continuing to suffer with what is going to go there on the ground. how are folks dealing now five days without safe drinking water? >> reporter: they are frustrated but it's important to note that this boil water notice for the city of jackson's water system has been in place the last month and adding insult to injury. record flooding took this water treatment plant offline five days ago. people are waiting in lines for hours to get water to last them a day or two before they are forced to repeat the very same thing for the foreseeable future. there is no firm time line on when the water coming out of the faucet in the jackson water supply will be safe to drink. and even more frustrating than

that, i've just learned the last few minutes is people driving through this line, they are still having to pay water bills! because water is coming out of the faucet, they are under a boil water notice. yet they are still having to pay for the privilege of that water. so all of that combined has created this environment here that just is really frustrating for folks and, frankly, with no clear end in sight, they have come to accept this as the status quo. now in the meantime, as for this plant that was forced offline, we do know that a rented pump caused the water pressure there to double yesterday. they hope it stays that way. however, because this is so unpredictable, all schools in jackson are doing remote learning. those kids are staying at home and their parents, meanwhile, have to figure out some sort of schedule to take care of their kids and driving to these water pickup sites' getting as much water they can to last in the days ahead. >> morgan, thank you for that.

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>> reporter: look, if you are traveling by air this weekend, it's going to be a busy weekend at airports. busy and smooth? that remains to be seen. as you said, if you have traveled by air this summer, there's a good chance you or someone you know encountered delays or cancellations. not necessarily because of things you would expect or understand, like weather. but because of staffing shortages. the department of transportation are aware of the frustrations and in part because of them they have created this new dashboard, a scorecard, if you will. it's the airline customer service dashboard. it's a place where air travelers can go online. they can see whether or not their flight has been canceled or delayed and figure out whether or not they are perhaps entitled to some compensation by the airline if the delay or cancellation was caused by something within the airline's control, like staffing shortages, like maintenance issues. for people who are traveling,

especially right now, they say the website sounds like a good idea but really they are hoping they don't have to use it, especially this weekend. listen. >> you think about this. great news. great you can go to this dashboard and look at why it was canceled and possibly get on the phone with a representative from the airline and wait 17 hours until they can give you an answer or a refund for the flight. i have been canceled and rebooked three days later from a destination which was not my home. i had to get home to get my kids back in school or something or back to camp or whatever it was. that's part of the frustration for so many people going into the travel season. what are folks telling you on the ground? are they worried about it? >> reporter: we are talking to some people who felt like overall things weren't terrible. two people we spoke to said their flight was delayed this morning by an hour.

that's a significant delay. having a flight cancel, it doesn't matter if you are compensated later, it's frustrating because it upends other plans and often there are ripple affects if you have a hotel reservation or something else, maybe you run into other potential financial problems. big picture, people are hoping just for lack of a better way to describe it that airlines kind of get it together so that they have a smooth travel time this holiday weekend and into the fall, which there is still expected to be, according to aaa, a lot of travel even after this weekend and moving into the fall as people feel more comfortable getting out and about. >> get it together when we are home and kids are in school and we can't go anywhere. ellison barber, thank you. appreciate it. good to see you. that does it for me this busy hour. catch me tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. "andrea mitchell reports" starts next. " starts next ly! welcome to our third bark-ery. oh, i can tell business is going through the “woof”. but seriously we need a reliable way

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