that toss it for me. you can also catch me tomorrow morning on the katie phang show 7:00 a.m. eastern right here on msnbc and stream new original episodes of the show on the msnbc hub on peacock as well. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. ♪♪ >> tonight on "the reidout" -- >> i frankly am skeptical of this claim that i declassified everything, you know. if in fact he sort of stood over scores of boxes, not really knowing what was in them and said i hereby declassify everything in here, that would be such an abuse that and show such recklessness that it's almost worse than taking the documents. >> career trump enabler bill barr is saying trump probably committed a serious crime. looks like donald is in big trouble, and said we learned much more about the many classified documents trump stole

and stashed at mar-a-lago. plus, president biden's searing and completely accurate warning about the threat posed by trump and his violent election-denying followers. and day five of a national disgrace, the state capital where the water isn't safe to drink and citizens are being advised to keep their mouths closed when taking a shower. the maybe of jackson, mississippi joins me tonight. we begin tonight with a newly unsealed inventory that provides the most detail to date of exactly what was seized during the fbi search of mar-a-lago last month. we already knew from the doj's filing earlier this week that the fbi seized more than 100 classified documents, but now we not only have a breakdown of those documents and where they were found but what else was among them. the classified documents included 18 marked top secret and search marked top secret and

several were found in donald trump's personal office including seven that were top secret. some of the documents were found strewn along in boxes alongside newspapers clippings, articles of clothing and books. don't forget. this comes after one of trump's lawyers told the fbi in june that all the records that had come from the white house were stored in one location and that there were no other records stored in any private office space, and a trump custodian of records signed a statement that they had done a diligent search and found no further classified documents to hand over. you have to wonder how that person could have missed more than 100 classified documents in 15 different boxes and containers being kept in a storage room hand in trump's personal office. it was the very same boxes in the storage room that the doj noted during its june visit, quote, the former president's council expolice italy prohibited government personnel from looking inside giving no opportunity for the government

to determine no document with classifications remained. it's also troubling that lists showed that the fbi seized 48 empty folders, empty, marked classified and 4 it empty folders marked return to staff secretary/military aid. so something tells me trump would not have taken empty folders down to mar-a-lago so what happened to all those documents? this all comes as federal judge eileen cannon is still considering whether to grant trump's request for a special master to review what was seized during the fbi seizure to determine whether the documents were classified. the word that stood out to me in this new, you know, detailed list of what was found is empty because it's bad enough that donald trump took folders away

from the government that said return, you know, to their classified settings. the fact that they were empty, does that alarm you as much as it alarms me? >> well, joy, you know, the story certainly gets more interesting, and, you know, the idea that there were, you know, these empty files or empty envelopes, you know, leads one to believe that there is much more to be found, and, you know, you have to ask the question what was in there. i think we don't want to get too nervous in the sense we don't know what was in those document. have you to take a look at the cover sheet were. there file numbers on there? can you go back and see exactly what was in there? what is it, you know, information from our sources? was it information from intelligence or perhaps even satellites? but the notion of missing documents, that's really in the counterintelligence arena, that's the worst nightmare because then you start assuming that things are compromised rather than really trying to track down, you know, if there

was a spy amidst or if you know something how this was mishandled. this opens up a lot of up certainties here and we have to let the investigation continue. >> as someone who has dealt with our spies and the risk business of even collecting this information, what does it say to you that donald trump would have this stuff just thrown around mixed in with clothing and magazines as if it was in a junk drawer? >> well, look, it's stunning malpractice. it's something that i think really kind of gets to the gut of a lot of us who really, you know, upheld the results for many years, whether you're getting polygraphed occasionally, whether you're locking your safe at night and ultimately for me i was a cia operations officer so my job was to spot assess, develop, recruit and handle an agent. what is an agent, someone we recruit, a russian foreign ministry official, a chinese military officer, an iranian engineer and they put their lives in our hand and there's a secret bond between a cia case officer and the agent. what is that bond?

working to keep your identity secret so the notion that, you know, potentially the president of the united states and then the former president, you know, allowed this information to kind of go out into the ether and potentially be compromised, that's really hard for a lot of us to take. it is going to take it potentially more difficult down the line to recruit agent. you know, that's the lifeblood of my old organization. >> i would think so. barbara, let's talk about these lawyers for just a second. we know now that the lawyers who work for us, not the lawyers who work for trump, have been interviewed, top white house lawyers pat philbin and pat cipollone, both of them were obviously working for us, white house counsels. they were -- you know, the fbi has talked to them or the grand jury has talked to them. the concern here i think is not them because they seem to be fairly straight shooters, each when it comes to the january 6th stuff. trump's personal lawyers have over and over again represented that they personally saw to it that everything was turned over, that there was nothing left there and yet the stuff was so

easy to find. it was just in his office. how is it possible that none of the custodian of records, his personal attorneys or even the white house counsel or deputy white house counsel could not have known that donald trump had all of this stuff? >> yeah. i think that probably explanation the inclusion in the search warrant affidavit of the statute that makes it a crime to conceal documents as a form of obstruction of justice. to say and attest in a signed document here's the rest of it in june to return an envelope and then for the fbi to come back two months later and find 30 more boxes, we don't know what the basis of their knowledge was that there were additional documents there, but clearly they knew things that were either unknown to these lawyers when they sign it had or that they deliberately failed to disclose, and i agree with you. one of the facts that was really important in the affidavit that was unsealed in part last friday was the part that said, you know, they represented that this was due diligence that they went

through and reviewed all these things and in just a couple of hours, the fbi agents who showed up were able to find these 30 boxes of documents and so i think these lawyers have some potential criminal liability. there is some privilege issue to work through here. both attorney-client and fifth ament privilege if they want to question these two people, but i think it's also very important to find out whether it was donald trump who made these representations to them when they attest that had they had all of the documents back. >> i want to stay with you for just a second, barb. william barr is no great creature ever virtue. he lied to the american people about the mueller report. he enabled donald trump in every way possible and acted as if he was donald trump's perm lawyer and not the lawyer for the united states which was his real job, but even he said that every single aspect of this story is bad. if donald trump waved a magic wand over a big box of documents and said i hereby declassify it all that's worse because you're supposed to notify each agency i'm declassifying this, this and this because of the spies.

you have to tell people i'm declassifying stuff an making it not secret. just having the documents at all is a crime. even william barr whose whole purpose in government was to defend donald trump has said bad, and he said it on fox. at this point is there any defense whatsoever that -- two questions for you. is there any defense whatsoever for having these document, and, number two, is the fact that some of the folders were empty in and of itself evidence of concealment? >> first, is there any defense? none that is apparent. now there may be things behind the redaction bars that provide some defense or maybe some piece of the facts but the declassification event is an absolute loser. it's imaginary, could not have happened and number two it doesn't happen. it's legally irrelevant to the charges listed on the search warrant affidavit that don't require that the documents be classified. one of them is just that they are government records and another is that they relate to the national defense and the third is that there was obstruction of justice here. yes, do i think the fact there's

empty folders here does make it more likely that charges will be fueled. back when jim comey explained why it was his recommendation that hillary clinton not be charged for having an unsecured private email server that did receive some classified e-mails, one of the factors that he looked at there was whether there we any willful disregard for the law or whether the documents had been stored in such a way as to demonstrate a carelessness for who might get ahold of the documents and there was no evidence that have because she only shared with other agency personnel. here the fact that they are empty folders. that really suggests that they were stored in a very haphazard fashion and maybe they have even been, you know, given away, sold, who knows what has happened to them. it's important to get to the bottom of it. but even if we never find out where they went, the fact they are empty does such a blatant disregard for the proper way of handling classified documents.

>> i would just like to get your own personal feeling as somebody who was in the trade craft, the thing that you did as a career. to hear a politician like elise stefanik who is the number three in the house republican caucus to equate this to russia hoax, to brush off and blow off the idea that donald trump could have endangered sources and methods that could have allowed one of our enemies to find, to track down, to harm people who were working for our benefit, for our national security. i wonder for you just as a human being how -- how do you feel when you hear somebody say that purely for political reasons? >> so, joy, i mean, i think it's repulsive. i mean, it goes against kind of the core ethose of, you know, what we swore to do of upholding the constitution but in the intelligence business which is, you know, to protect the eyes. in the cia we always consider ourselves the nation's first line of defense so when you downplay incidents like this, i think it's an insult to the men

and women who by the way at the cia and the intelligence community are apolitical. i mean, you know, my own colleagues put their nose to the ground every day and they are doing their job in protecting america, but when you hear statements like that, again, it's real -- it's really a gut punch because it goes to the basic foundations of what we were doing at cia, and, look, i have to say one thing. when you hearings you know, some of the defenses from the trump crowd it's only documents. i go back to the time of the atomic -- you know, the race for the atomic bomb. the soviet union got an atomic bomb because they stole documents. they had spies in the united states so the idea it's just documents, you know, doesn't hold any water, and so, you know, at the end of the day, and i've called for this many times before, you know, we have to let the dni damage assessment go forward because that's how we're really going to find out the degree in which either our agents, you know, the heroes who i call that work for us overseas or collections systems like

satellites, signals, intercept systems are compromised. let the dni do their job and, of course, as the doj investigation goes on. >> barbara, i'll give you the last word here. how -- i think for regular people who think about, you know, shoplifters end up in jail, right, because they have candy in their pockets, and i think people are shocked at what donald trump has been able to get away with in his life. is there any way that donald trump gets away with this because this seems like the worst possible thing, worse than all the other awful things that he did and this isn't alleged to have done. he admits that he did it. he complained that the agents who went in and took those documents made them look messy on the floor which is an admission that he took the document, that he had the documents for 18 months. how -- is there any way this man gets away without being indicted for this? >> well, you know, again, there's certain facts that we don't know that are behind the

redaction bars but based on what we do know there's mishandling of national defense information, intelligence information and concealment of that and there's appear from the facts we know a violation of the law. prosecutors then do engage in discretion and they try to decide whether prosecution would serve no substantial federal interest. if not, then they should decline prosecution, and in these cases what prosecutors look for are aggravating factors. somebody accidentally brings home one classified piece of paper in their briefcase, there are serious consequences for that. they may be fired. they may be disciplined. they may have their clearance pulled, but typically they are not going to be charged with a crime for that even though they technically could but here with the aggravating factors i think it will be possible to ignore. >> david petraeus was prosecuted for having classified documents he wasn't allowed to have. david petraeus was somebody who served this country and put his body on the line for the united states and he got prosecuted. if trump doesn't, there's something deeply wrong with our justice system.

that's on me not my wonderful guests. thank you both. up next on "the reidout," as president biden warns of the danger of maga republicans i was reminded it of another deem when a major party within the democratic party had to be quarantined for the good of the country. "the reidout" continues right after this. untry. "the reidout" continues right afr tethis

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very clear up front. not every republican, not even a majority of republicans are maga republicans. not every republican embraced their extreme ideology. there are far more americans, far more americans from every background and belief who reject the extreme maga ideology than those who accept it. >> president joe biden last night did not hold back slamming donald trump and maga republicans for their attempts to undermine democracy. the keynote there is -- >> understand what every patriotic american knows -- >> to call out the entire republican party in an attempt to appeal to the faction that is still normal, whatever side of the faction that might be. the once who may be opposed to forced birth and overthrowing elections or maybe just realize so many within the party today have gone too far, it is reminiscent of something that we've seen before in our country's history. in 1948 after president harry truman order the integration of the u.s. military and began to address civil rights on the

federal level, many southern white democrats were outraged leading them to organize a breakaway faction as the dixiecrats who were focused on keeping jim crow lows in place. their slogan was segregation forever and in the presidential election they nominated south carolina governor strom thurmond as their canned day. they lost and carried four states and 39 electoral vote. the segregationist ideologies calleded the dixieocrats to quickly fail so much so that in 2002 republican senate majority leader trent lott of mississippi was forced to apologize after saying this at thurmond's 100th birthday toast. >> i want to say this about my state, when strom thurmond ran for president we voted for him. we're proud of him. and to the rest of the country that followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years either. >> mm-hmm. >> in the same way that the dixieocrats left the democratic

party back then president biden is essentially trying to separate the maga cult out of the republican party. he's saying go, do your own thing and be your own faction and biden speaks to everyone else, democrats, independents and normal republicans. joining me now is charles blow, "new york times" columnist and david corn, washington bureau chief for "mother jones" and author of "american psychosis," an historical investigation of why the republican party went crazy." i've got to start with you, david. biden is all bidening and one of the things are bidening is he's the everybody included guy, right? >> right. >> and his whole thing he wants to address the whole country so it does feel like he was doing operation quarantine, maga republicans, steve bannons, michael flynn, giuliani, the paul manaforts, the trumps, those kind of people that now elise stefanik, those people are in one camp and there's a faction of some normal republicans that are elsewhere. how big are those two factions because it does feel like the magas have kind of taken over? >> first of course, i think what

joe biden did last night was difficult and not easy for a president to do. he said there were millions of americans, we don't have a number, who are a profound threat to american democracy because they don't abide by the rules of american democracy and they want to see it overturned. that said, i think he was being very charitable to the republicans by saying the maga republicans are just, you know, a bunch -- a wing of the republican party. if it's a wing, it's the dominant wing, it's the wing -- it's two binges of a dragon in some ways. i mean, there is not a single republican leader who has really come out to basically counter trump in his election denialism and talk about, you know, his demagoguery and retain that leadership position. we've seen what happened to liz cheney and kinzinger and you see mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy bending the knee so the party is completely controlled, the apparatus, by the people who are maga republicans.

i know that boyden wants to try to make it seem that the maga republicans are an aberration, but since you brought up my book which comes out in ten days, i'll tell that you part of story of the book is that this has always been a strong part of the republican party, encourage willing and exploiting extremism. trump has done it to an extensive extreme and degree, but it's always been there, and i think it's really hard these days to separate dr. jekyll from mr. hyde in the republican party. it's really all hyde. >> you know, charles, i have likened the -- the republicans -- the republican party the way that they have emerged now to the dixieocrats before. i call them dixieocrat republicans. it's it a southern-based party, a party that purports things like white replacement theory, whether they do the hard core version that tucker does on fox or they do the soft version, anti-immigrant, very anti-black people being able to involvement you know, you just go down the list. it's sort of a dixieocrat

parliament the question is is it a faction or is it a party? >> yeah, i think, you know, it's very hard to split that hair and what biden is doing, you know, is being a politician when he tries to do that. when you look at how the republicans voted for donald trump in the last election it was north of 90%, when you look at recent pri poll, 70% plus of people still have a favorable -- republicans, still have a favorable view of donald trump and they want him to run again in 2024. about a third of people think there was something corrupt about the election, republicans think that, about a quarter of them are qanon bleefrmts i don't know how you do this. i don't think it's actually genuine to say it. i think it's politically expedient and what he has to say but i think the democrats kind of get beat over the head and they kind of back away when they tell the truth. telling the truth becomes a political sin. barack obama told the truth when he talked about people clinging to their guns and their bibles. hillary clinton told the truth

she said that there were deplorable people in the republican party supporting donald trump and he was exercising a lot of racism and sexism and bigotry. they say you can't say that about actual voters, people who are running for office who are punching down. actually if you're supporting people who are defending these people, promoting these people, you know, make a group of 120 people running for office that denied for election. many of those people won, you know why, because republican voters voted for them. you don't get to be exempted for being called what you are when it's the truth. >> you know, and the thing is the other question is, david, are there people inside the party? there were factions in the party

that went away when john burkesters and there were others that said we're not going to play ball with you and they ran to the other side, the other party. there doesn't seem to be a faction with liz cheney who also agrees with trump's policies who agreed with him 90% of the time who are saying get lost. >> again, this is in the book. we can talk about this later. the bushes were not thrown out of the republican party for a long time. a lot of people wanted to use that energy. publicly they wanted to distance themselves but they wanted these people there. you know, we know -- we know things about donald trump. we know that kevin mccarthy blamed donald trump for january 6th for a few narrow seconds after the rye. we know these things to be true. we know a lot of republicans in town would like to see him leave and be plain old mitch mcconnell type of conservatives, right, but they can't do this. they don't challenge him. when they have the chance to him they bend the knee to him and so

i don't see an internal battle within the republican party. no one is going to challenge him from that crowd that exists in a 2024 campaign. that fight doesn't exist right now. >> and their version of moderate is youngkin who wants to ban -- he's a book banner and he's like no toni morrison in this state. charles corn and david, thanks so much. jackson mississippi mayor joins me on the dire water street and why the state has neglected this growing problem for years and years and years. we'll be right back. oblem for y years and years. we'll be right back. name... and i found his childhood home. he's been wondering about the address for seventy years... (chuckle) and i found it in five minutes. travel back in time in no time with the 1950 census on ancestry.

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yes on 27. nbc news is exclusively reporting that retired nfl star quarterback brett favre has been questioned by the fbi after a mississippi state auditor found that he received more than $1million from the state's welfare fund in 2017 and 2018 to deliver motivational speeches that he never even gave. the state also gave $5 million that have money to build a women's volleyball facility at the university of southern mississippi where favre's daughter played volleyball. he declined to talk to nbc news but his attorney said he never understood he was paid for money intended to help children and that he repaid the fees for the speeches. he has not been charged with or accused of any crime.

this is all part of a much larger fraud case with a state auditor finding that the head of the welfare agency gave more than $70 million intended for impoverished children to wealthy individuals like favre. that is money taken away from children living in the poorest state in the entire country. nearly 20% of mississippi's residents live in poverty and the numbers even higher, 25% in the capital, jackson where more than 100,000 people have not had safe drinking water for days after flooding disrupted the city's water system. >> people are fed up. they are running to bordering cities who have clean water to just bathe. i honestly don't want to bathe my baby in jackson's water. >> it's sad and i can't even afford to move out of jackson so i have to stay here and deal with this. >> this has been an issue for me since i came down here in 1991. i was always told not to drink the water. >> it's a problem jackson

residents have faced on and off for years with aging infrastructure that jackson's mayor says will cost $1 billion to fix. the state's republican governor tate reefs and other officials have repeatedly opposed efforts to fund water treatment upgrades. president biden has said reeves has got to act and sent the fema administrator to jackson today to assess the situation, and joining me now is the mayor of jackson, mississippi, chock wee antar lumumba. mayor lumumba, i think for a lot of people other than flint which we all know what happened there, they switched to a dirty source of water and essentially poisoned the city of flint back in 2014, what is going on in jackson? why is the water unsafe to drink? >> well, first and foremost. thank you for having me and thank you for lifting this challenge up in my city. i think what jackson represents, what flint represents are circumstances of divestment,

underinvestment in communities that resemble others far too frequently. this has been a challenge that we have been lifting up my entire time in office but more specifically nationally at least more than two years saying that it's not a matter of if these systems will fail but when these systems will fail, and so what the calculus comes to is that it amounts to humiliation for our constituents. it amounts to a poor quality of life and we're unable to reveal the simple dignity of having running water within homes, to you know, for sanitary needs to bathe or to drink, and so we need to make certain that when this falls out of the news cycle that the work continues and that we see it to its conclusion, that we have a water system that is sustainable, dependable and equitable and serves the best interest of our residents in every way. >> i mean, just for our viewers to just get a handle on this.

i mean, we're talking about a city, the capital city of mississippi, of the state of mississippi in which people are being told to bathe with their mouths closed so that they don't breathe in whatever is in the water. do you even have an assessment, given an assessment of what's in this water? >> well, first and foremost, the boil water notice, we have, to you know, go through a bit of history because we had a boil water notice in effect prior to the flood. that boil water notice was due to a high tribidity reading which could be bacterial, a high line contempt, but the issue of that tribidity was resolved within a 24 hour period of time and then it took consecutive days of testing which proved to be challenging not only because having to have out of 120 samples clear tests for all of the 120 for two consecutive days, we would have one or two come back poor and then

recontended with the persistent rain even before the flood and you can't test in the rain and we had flash floods that were happening and then we had the flood itself, and then due to the flood that led to a bad chemistry of water coming into the plant which meant that they could not push out that water due to their concern over that and it dropped pressure levels across the city, and so until the pressure can be restored, then the okay to start testing again can't take place. all of this is part and parcel of a water treatment facility that simply is just not as loyal to our residents as the people who work there. we have people who work there diligently, who, are you know, looking over various components of failure, whether it's the raw water screens, whether it's the raw water pumps and whether it's the uv light, you know, that's obsolete. whether it's distribution lines and to the water treatment facility conventional side or

membrane side. all of these things have had an impact on our water treatment facility at given periods of time and all of it has amend as a challenge for our residents. >> another challenge you have is you're governor. paul krugman wrote this about your governor. governor reeves announced he was making an investment in mississippi yanez, by investment it was a tax cut rather than spending say on education or from a florida. are no easy of left-behind regions but one thing for sure imagining that tax cuts will bring prosperity to a poorly educated state that can't even provide its capital with running water is just delusional. comment on tate reeves. under his administration you've had all of these vast sums of money going to wealthy athletes, giving them money to make speeches, you know, for a volleyball facility, and i believe it was the previous administration that gave them that money so that might not have been tate reeves. what do you make of the

statewide government, not just this government but the previous one spending lots of money on wealthy people and lots of money on tax cuts but not any money on infrastructure? >> well, as your package suggested, this has been a problem in the making for decades, not simple police years. these have been problems that when i moved here in 1988 as a little boy, i remember the freeze of 1989 that debilitated our system and there are far too many occurrences to recount of how many -- of how we dealt with a challenge with water in jackson, and so, you know, i have been, you know, less than bashful, and i have been on the record of lifting up and speaking to the leadership and their necessity to act, and so, you know, my record is clear in saying and lifting these things up, but i do want people to appreciate the circumstance that i'm in today, all right. today where my residents don't have water.

today we're -- i've cried out for the state support and today when there is a coalition that is on the ground, right, that is where my immediate concern has to be. now i do believe, that you know, there is a time that we return and talk about why it took us so long to get here, that we return to the question of the fact that jackson residents are worthy of their support and that's what i want to lift up. my residents are worthy to not be, you know, dealing with the challenges that they have become accustomed to. this is their way of life. this is what they know and that is unacceptable on every end. >> yeah. >> indeed. i hope that you'll come back. jackson mayor lumumba, please come back and update what's going on in your city, the beautiful, wonderful city, one of my favorite cities, jackson. thank you so much, sir. really appreciate you. coming up, trump allies are reportedly backing a massive voter eligibility challenge in georgia in a blatant bid to disrupt the upcoming election.

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as republicans bash president biden over his thoroughly accurate claim that trumpism is a threat to american democracy, trump and his minions are doing exactly, that threatening democracy. overwhelming county election boards just weeks until election day. bloomberg reports that the group voter ga is backing a mass

challenge to voter eligibility in georgia, a state determined to be ground zero for trump's attempts to steal the 2020 election and 2024, too. they filed eight boxes in gwyneth, county, a once suburban-year that has voted democratic since 2016. the group is backed by trump super fan patrick byrn and former national security adviser michael flynn, the guy with the quan none pledge who pleaded guilty to the trump staple of lying to the fbi. this will overwhelm two months before the georgia mid-term elections making it hard for some registered voters to cast their ballots. joining me now is josi ross of black feet nation and owe mara, i'm going to start with you first. this sound like blatant voter suppression. it sounds illegal because they passed that jim crow law.

>> right. i was going to say that i feel like this is jim crow 2.0 and the reason i say that because the original jim crow laws were designed seemingly on paper to be race blind but were actually weaponized by bad actors who are trying to intimidate, disenfranchise and demoralize black and brown lawyers. this law signed by brian kemp who is supposed to be a champion of democracy because he stood up against trump but he signed this law into effect that allows actors like michael flynn and all of his trump allies to mass challenge voter registrations across the state of georgia and what that does is drive all these electoral boards to a halt because they are going to do their due diligence in checking voter registrations. hey, here's the kicker. brian kemp has the power to remove those folks from the electoral board. what happens when that happens? he puts people in place who doesn't believe the 2020

election is valid and looking at these voters registrations and tossing them out. they are all black and brown people and some people who dare to vote democrat. >> yeah, look, judging people and giving them credit for just one, like rudy giuliani and what he did on 9/11. republicans in the south are enacting a modern day jim crow. they reversed the constitutional amendment who put a poll tax in and then arrested them with desantis' election police and brian kemp doing this in georgia and then they whine and cry because republicans who run the state of' lass can a had decided to input are being choice investigate and sarah palin lost and they are outraged. voter suppression. your thoughts? >>ia.

ultimately it's a means justify the ends situation where republicans want to have it both -- both ways. they want to be able to complain about something that they seemingly works against them when in truth their messaging is just wrong, their social distances >> as the first alaskan native women, person, to be in the house of congress for two months, as ultimately as we revisit the same process, the same disenfranchisement process there, in alaska, primarily made of native people, oh can, in two months. ultimately, i want to speak upon georgia very quick. as a criminal defense attorney whenever you have a system a law, that involves individuals,

because that's what the law allows, individuals to bring in and for -- bringing in the rule of law, and say these people are doing something wrong, with absolutely no basis, no foundation for that, it's peak karen, peak karen behavior. and ultimately, we know where that karen behavior is going to go, as alluded to earlier, it will ultimately be penalized it will chill black and brown folks from doing their constitutional duty and right. and that is something we should always be wary and fight against, joy. >> i'll do the word of the week after but one of the candidates this week is -- it's talking at the state of alaska it's an indigenous based population there's never been an indigenous alaskan person in congress at all. let's play a little clip last

night she was on with alex wagner. >> no other americans are my enemies. it doesn't matter what party you are from. if you're an american, you are not my anomie. steering away from the closed primarily process, which has really shown us that. we we

she shows the diversity of indigenous of native thought and belief. a lot of times on both sides folks like to categorize just like black folks just like any other community, and say we are a monolith and we vote this way. pick told, she is a staunch supporter as she should be, of reproductive rights. of rights to abortion, access to abortion, but at the same time, she is somebody who is a staunch supporter of the second amendment. its diversity in its complexity. >> absolutely. we are -- we would like to have you on the show congresswoman elect, we will be coming at you. everybody's favorite game to end the week, the way to end the week is coming straight after the break. after the break.

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which means that it's time for the -- yes, who won the week. you team a o'mara, welcome to the show, who won the week? >> serena williams. 40 year old mom who unseated -- number two ranked player in tennis currently, she hadn't even been playing a ton of matches before she came in what was her retirement shown the

u.s. open. and quite frankly, her performance on tuesday, wednesday, night definitely show that she's earned the title of the greatest of all-time. >> you made me realize why i'm smiling but serena williams, that's an excellent pick. can you pick that, jesse ross? who won the week? >> i cannot beat it, but i can match it. willy serena williams, serena williams, serena williams. man, that woman, a mom, amazing, amazing -- obviously, tennis player. but listen to this, joy, the most dominant athlete ever, ever, in the history of sports. let's get it correct. >> amen. let me tell you something, there is one thing that has never happened. i don't know when the week -- i've been doing the who won the week for a long time. never in the history of who won

the week, three people pick the same. one because serena william's, for serena williams is the baddest in the game. game set match serena williams, you won the week! thank you jesse ross, thank you team up o'mara. that has never happened before and who won the week. that should -- dark red it is the runway up for one of -- it went off this week. all in with chris hayes starts now. with chris ha>> tonight on "al- >> donald trump the maga republicans are representing extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic. >> the president contra confronts a fascist threat. as this front spread to sister vows to but -- >> i will look at the park. >> tonight, the extreme and divisive truth of our