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from as msnbc world headquarters, welcome to alex witt reports. we begin with breaking news as we await a news conference from police in mississippi where a pilot is now in custody after threatening to crash his plane into a walmart. he circled the skies for hours and instead landed in a field in north mississippi. the faa says only the pilot was on board, no word yet confirming his identity. it started early today after the pilot took off from to pull

a regional airport. the police got word that the pilot intended to crash intentionally, the walmart was closed. that plane flew haphazardly for hours before coming down in the field where police swarmed it and made the arrest. here's our affiliate -- as that drama unfolded. >> we have been able to confirm, we have at least confirmed to us that it has crashed, that does not mean they reach the crash location. one of the difficult things about figuring out something like that is just how fast the plane was moving. at its lowest point, prior to the reports of it crashing, it was moving 163 miles per hour. that's a lot faster than any ground assets can move to get in position. it doesn't have to follow roads. so that has led to not necessarily mayhem, but certainly great concern. today this all started as i

bring up different data -- this aircraft, we believe to be a beach craft, a 1987 beach craft c90a. not a tiny plane. a nine seed or. with a range of more than 800 miles. it had enough fuel to stay up for a while. this began this morning at about 5:30 in the morning. if we bring up the original flight of the plane, for hours on and this plane just circled over top of the tupelo area. with what many described as a very erratic flight plan. there were initially reports that this plane could have been making an attempt to crash at the walmart as you can see, on west maine. that prompted an evacuation of that location.

it also prompted an evacuation of the gas station that was in front of it. but as you can see, just plotting the loops, the erratic motion of this, as the plane circled for hours and hours on and in the tupelo area, this morning. >> well joining us right now is jeff kazemi, a former investigator with the faa. that was absolutely extraordinary, watching that. the pattern on that plane. what do you think when you see something like that? the density, just circling, circling, circling. in a relatively small area? >> yes it was. it appears to me that the pilot could fly an airplane. the maneuvering that you would see from the tracks that were shown there as well as the video that were taken by various people indicate a plane under normal operation circling

frequently between 1000 feet and 2000 feet of the ground. and then tracking to the north. and then -- towards ripley, where it finally landed in a soybean field. >> so, circling the skies for hours like it was clearly done, how dangerous is that, jeff? what kind of a threat does that pose for other aircrafts in the area? >> it depends, alex, normally if the airplane circles like that, it should be done in a non congested airspace. and a time when the pilot is communicating with other pilots in the area to maintain separation. so, given the fact that most of the circling was done in a remote area north of tupelo at an altitude that was below where commercial airlines was flying, there probably wasn't too much danger as long as there were no other airplanes

in that area. a pilots responsibility is to see and avoid, but there is no requirement to communicate when you're outside of controlled airspace, like this pilot was. >> we spoke last hour if this was becoming resolved. i find it interesting that a plane could be stolen, which is what we believe happened in the first place. how does that even happen in an airport? >> well, apparently this pilot was an airport employee. somehow you got access to be able to get inside the airport perimeter at tupelo. then once you're inside, then it's a matter of unlocking the cabin doors to get into the airplane. whether it be breaking a window to get the door open, but once here in the cockpit, you're in the cockpit. it takes some skill to be able to spool up to turban powered

propellers, which is what this aircraft has. this took some aviation savvy to be able to do this. the person that stole the airplane obviously know what they're doing with regards to fly an airplane. >> and, jeff, i ask you about how quickly the situation would be becoming aware to people who are monitoring the skies like that? i presume there was a control tower, but in the small municipal airports, there may not even be a control tower. at one point with that plane become known to be a problem, to have an issue like this? >> i did little research since we last spoke. this tupelo airport does have a control tower. it's a contract tower. the faa contracts it with non faa employees to operate it. it operates beginning at 6:00 in the morning. if this pilot took the airplane at 5:30 in the morning, then there wouldn't be anyone in the

control tower to notice it taking off. that's typical for a lot of small town airports that have contract hours. they don't operate 24 hours a day, like the major airports. so more than likely, it was the pilots reported call to 9-1-1 the diluted authorities that he was up and flying. >> okay, jeff, stay with me, we're going to go now to that news conference that was promised. we're listening to the radio -- mayor now tupelo, mississippi. take a listen. >> or at the sheriff's office, union county, ben county sheriff's office, the police department, airport authority, lake county volunteer fire department, the fbi, united states attorney's office, the faa, homeland security, and first of all, i want to say

that the situation like this -- in the situation communication was key. this morning we started finding out what we knew to the citizens and the media where they could keep everyone updated. i think that all of these organizations and departments and emergency services did a great job this morning. no one was injured. the suspect is now in custody. he will now get the help that he needs and firearms whatever he's dealing with. i can think of these organizations, can't thank them enough. at this time i'd like to bring in the fire chief to give you all the details. >> thank you, good afternoon. hey, i would like to reiterate what the mayor was saying, in terms of thanking all the agencies, coordinating all the agencies. it was the help and the assistance, and being prepared -- the main concern with the

citizens of this community, of the city, and the actions that our guys took this morning, the emergency divisions was just to make sure that we are prepared for what might occur. just to be ready, when you're not dealing with an incident, seeing that it's in a defined location. it makes a little bit more interesting. we went and a little bit of a resource standby mode. making sure we are prepared and ready to take action if it occurred. with that said, i'm going to turn it over to the chief, i know he has more details and far a law enforcement perspective. thank you very much. >> hey, good afternoon, i'm john with the tupelo police department. i have a short bullet point chronological list of events. at what we know at this point, it is an ongoing investigation but we'll learn more. at 508 this morning, corey wayne pattison, stole a beach craft king air c90a twin engine

aircraft and took off from the tupelo airport. we do know that pattison does have some flight instruction. we don't believe he's in -- a licensed pilot. it's ongoing to discover that. he's employed -- he has access to these aircraft. he is a lineman for tupelo aviation, which means he fuels the aircraft. we know that the aircraft was fully fueled the night before. at approximately 5:23 am patterson, from the aircraft called county 9-1-1 to tell them that he was going to crash the aircraft in the main walmart in tupelo, mississippi. soon thereafter, tupelo police department and fire department evacuated the walmart, and all the surrounding areas. we were assisted by the county s o. numerous major streets were

shut down to help save lives during this critical time. negotiators from tupelo police departments made contact with the contact and were able to convince him to not carry out this deed and to land the aircraft at the tupelo airport. the pilot did not have experience to land an air craft. a private pilot assisted us in helping this pilot complete this. however, it was not completed. upon final approach, the pilot aborted the landing and traveled in a northwest direction away from tupelo towards union, to pay, and benton county. at this time we contacted all of those counties and their sheriffs to notify them of this incident going on. at approximately 9:32, the pilot posted on facebook a message, in essence it said goodbye. at this time we know he was

getting close to running out of fuel. at 10:08 am, faa lost radar contact with the aircraft. at 10:12 am, our negotiator reestablished contact with the pilot. the pilot confirmed, he had landed in a field, and he was uninjured. we have since learned he landed near the graves town fire department on highway 40 west in between ashfield and ripley. soon then, after the pilot was taken into custody and is in custody currently. he's being charged with grand larceny and making terrorist threats. we do anticipate that the federal government will proceed with federal charges in the very near future. that is the and ever bullet point outline. does anyone have any questions? >> so, my question is, how much

flight experience did he have? >> that is undetermined. we do know that he has flight instruction, we do know that. >> during the incident, did he have contact with -- >> yes he did have contact with family. >> how much did he have? >> i don't know how much contact at this time, but we do know that he was in contact with family members. >> the biggest question, what was his motive? >> that is going to take some time to determine. those are always the last thing we learned in an investigation. that will take several days. we will run down the motivation. we will perceive any angle and avenue there is. we will work in conjunction with the fbi to do so. >> are you in contact with the family? >> yes. >> what did they say? >> they're very concerned about the well-being of their family member, like any of us would be.

>> well we've been listening to the news conference there, beginning with the mayor, and then the chief of the fire department. what we got was a lot of information confirming the information that we've got. i want to bring back jeff for one more question. jeff, the chief of cleave absolutely confirmed at this guy had some flight training experience. what was so interesting was that he did not know how to land the plane. you have to wonder, the mindset of somebody who's going to take the plane, get up there, and then figure out, okay, maybe on the fly, how to land it. or potentially crash it, as the pilot had said he intended to do. but the fact that he landed safely? what does that tell you about this kind of a plane and the skill that it took for him to do that?

alex, i'm a little bit suspicious about the fact that he said he could not land the plane, that he has never landed a plane. it seems to me that he had some aviation experience. in fact, public records indicate that he had a student pilot certificate back in 2013. what he has done between 2013 and now, we don't know. just to be able to, again, fire up both of those engines, it is a complex checklist procedure. he was able to take off and then maneuver. he was able to communicate with his family, a negotiator, he is doing this while he is flying. he is also landing the airplane without much damage as far as i can see. there is something very suspicious there. i think he had more aviation experience than people give him credit for. >> meantime while, jeff, thank you so much for getting us through this story. what a story in tupelo, mississippi. all of us are sharing it with all of you across the country.

jeff, thank you. we have more breaking news. just a short while ago nasa called off today's launch of the artemis moon rocket. it's spreading another worrying fuel leak this morning. we have nbc's jake ward, he is standing by at kennedy space center for us. what is nasa saying, jake, about what went wrong here? is there any timeframe for when this next launch will be? they clearly have to fix something before they're gonna put that rocket back up in the air. they want to try to do it for the first time. >> absolutely right. we are seeing a more clear picture of what went wrong and what comes next. what went wrong, it was a fuel mixture. it basically goes from the ground up into the spacecraft. it is liquid hydrogen at a temperature of negative 400 and something degrees. it is an incredibly complicated procedure. a quick release coupling. this is a place where two pipes come together. that scene would not hold. it was leaking hydrogen.

many, many efforts to solve that problem remotely. nasa does not light to walk anyone out onto the launchpad. once a spaceship is out there and habitually do not want that. we tried several remote measures. they could not get a fixed. eventually, they did grab that when there was about two and a half hours before the launch window could begin. at this hour, bill nelson -- the big question is whether or not they are going to have to roll that thing back into the assembly building. you can see it right here behind me. he didn't quite come out and say they're going to have to. he certainly made it sound as if that was the likelihood. he said that they were going to try their best to fix it on the launchpad. if they actually have to get into the guts of this thing to figure it out, they have to bring it over here. that is a very involved process. it sets them back weeks. that means we would not be looking at a launch on monday or tuesday, that had been a possibility. instead, of the very earliest, we would be looking at a september 19th launch.

sometime between september 19th and october 4th. more likely it is mid october at. this point, it looks like nasa could be looking at a delay of many weeks. they look at the possibility of having to bring this thing off the launchpad and having to get into it once again. >> let's face it, it is worth the wait. >> president biden's warning about american democracy in danger, it would have an impact? we visited the white house yesterday and spoke with the president about his speech and the perils facing minorities. i will speak with the reverend. that is straight ahead. straight ahead

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decision to come at any moment on the search of mar-a-lago. adam a judge will consider whether to grant donald trump's request for a review on what was seized from mar-a-lago. joining me now is hugo lowell. he is a reporter.

i have tim o'brien, a senior opinion against. there is an nbc political analyst. gentlemen welcome to all of you. jim, you first, a couple of questions, you wrote the book called trump nation. you know him and how he operates. when you hear that there were 40 empty folders montes classified not to mention the 42 others marked return to staff in military aid, what goes through your mind on this detail? >> i don't know what voting apart on that particular instance. we need more information about it. it begs the obvious question of, why are files marked classified or top secret? where the documents that were inside those files? that is the larger issue that hangs over all of the evidence that the doj and fbi are collecting as a part of this investigation. it all remains unanswered. what were his motives for taking the documents to begin

with? did he make use of any of them in any fashion? what were those uses? >> yeah. >> again, this is all wrong speculation. i think, you know, that there is two tween legal threats. one of them is the obstruction of justice. i think the other is the violation of the espionage act. there are others. i think those are the two most threatening impressing. if he had in his mind that he was going to use those documents in any way to make money or launder his reputation, to paper over evidence trails and actions he took when he was president those are all only going to get him in deeper and hotter water. we won't really know the resolution of those kinds of things until if and when he is indicted or when the justice department gives up more information about these things. >> you are right. there is the gravity of the

situation. tim, what do you think donald trump let things get to this point? can you explain? why didn't he just turn everything over? it is any of this makes sense to you? >> well, i mean it is always a mistake i think to a trash strategy to donald trump's name. he is not a strategic thinker. he is a juvenile delinquent. he is incompetent. he never ran his business very effectively. that is why he was through bankruptcy six times. that is why he almost went personally bankrupt. he is a very deft marketer and self promoter. he is an inept manager. he does not pay attention to process. he has no real concern for process. these kinds of things have haunted him his whole life. he has been insulated from the consequences of his mistakes by well, celebrity, and now the powers of the presidency. the thing now, you cannot actually roll that way when national security is at risk. >> sobering, that's the way you describe it. you are absolutely right. hugo, let me ask you about your

latest headline. we are talking about the aspects of that inventory this. what have you learned beyond the headlines? >> look, there is the 90 empty photo folders in total. they were bifurcate in between the classified and the ones marked with return. the heart of this investigation is the fact that he had all of these presidential records. you know he had these presidential records at mar-a-lago. the point there is that the search warrant is ongoing. that is in spite of the fact that it does not make any difference -- lithonia of this is interesting. look i think that there were some things that stood out to me after we looked at this inventory. there was the fact that we don't have any sort of documents dated after november

2020. and that lead up through january 26 in the lead up to an integration date we don't have any sort of press clippings magazines documents. i thought that was a very notable emission. it begs the question on whether or not there are documents elsewhere. >> how do you express what the fbi and doj are doing? they released this inventory list. there is the picture from earlier in the week. on the strength of these items we have their case against the former president. it appears strong. what do you think? >> if you are asking what the doj is doing, there is a revised inventory. they released a search warrant affidavit. my answer is beats me. this never happens in ordinary regular citizen cases. the point is that the doj's doing stuff that it never does an ordinary criminal investigations. some of them, they have been required to do by a judge. typically someone after a

search warrant has been executed on their home they get the inventory that the fbi and doj want to give them. they don't get to go back to the judge and say jeez i would like a little bit more detail on here would like to look at the search warrant affidavit for probable cause that would really help. no, that does not happen. normally wait until an indictment. a defendant gets that in discovery. there are a lot of firsts going on in this case overall. as for potential criminal charges, well, one way the doj can avoid the thorny issue of declassification it is as if trump stood over the boxes like a benediction, all of the who are now declassified. they could charge him with federal crimes that don't have anything to do with classified documents. there is section 15 19, that comes to mind. all you needed for somebody to conceal documents with the intent to impede a federal investigation. that will get you to a federal

crime. of course, merrick garland knows that is not the end of the inquiry. they have to consider potential defenses. the biggest, who did what? i had trouble -- maybe he was. he probably had people below him doing that. one of the main things that merrick garland has to consider, who did what, who ordered what, more importantly, who refused to give them back? was it knowingly or intentional? >> despite all of that we have seen, trump loyalists are calling this mar-a-lago search necessary. this is worth hearing again. here is former trump attorney, bill barr. take a listen to this. >> i personally think that for them to have taken things at the current point, they probably have pretty good evidence. that is speculation. the driver on this from the beginning was, you know, loads of classified information sitting in mar-a-lago. people said that this was unprecedented. well, it is also unprecedented

for a president to take all of is classified information put it in a country club. how long is the government going to try and get that back? you know, they draw it up for a year. they were deceived on the voluntary actions taken. they then went and got a subpoena. they were deceived on that. that is how they feel. the facts are starting to show. they were being jerked around. how long do they wait? >> that is the question there are, danny. he also said the call was unnecessary. he called it around here herring. how do you assess all of that? first of all the -- the totally frank bill barr, this version of him. the thing here that we have to consider is that trump's team filing this week revealed a lot. they didn't have an answer to doj's narrative. keep in mind the whole reason that doj had to file a brief laying out the timeline about trump's noncompliance is

because trump asked for a special master in the first place. and because they think trump's team doesn't really have a reply, the replay was essentially, this was a typical back and forth between government agencies. the government agencies themselves certainly don't call it that. you can't really characterize it as a typical back and forth. when one of the fourth or the back doesn't think that's what it was. that's a problem for the top team. i wouldn't be surprised that if this judge signaled an interest in possible appointing a special master, she may change course. don't be surprised if it's for standing reasons that trump, the former president, doesn't have any right to object the taking back of government documents. he's no longer the government. >> i'm curious your take on the bill barr comments and how that left donald trump feeling? >> i wish bill barr had been this candid when he was still the attorney general. i wish he had had such a strong

attention to the rule of law. i think it has to inevitably raise i are in trump. he expects ultimate loyalty even though he doesn't give it. i think the fact that bill barr is doing -- being as candid as he is about the fact pattern. the fact pattern is damning. i don't see how anyone crawls out beneath the weight of this evidence. >> let me ask all three of you quick. the prevailing wisdom is that donald trump will be indicted. tim you first? >> i think donald trump should be indicted if he was a regular citizen. there is inevitably going to be the debate about whether it's more destructive to indict this president and not to. i think no one's above the rule of law and he should be indicted. >> hugo, to you? >> i think it's a difficult question. the justice department and

merrick garland spent a lot of time thinking about whether they should even execute a warrant. the fact that they did suggests a level side -- the deputy attorney office is quite alarmed by the volume of classified material. i think if there is an indictment, it's less likely to be about the boarding -- hoarding of documents, and more on the obstruction side. the justice department has made that clear in recent filings. trump's lawyers or whoever it was to ultimately not give all of the materials demanded by the subpoena, that's the avenue that's most likely for the justice department to pursue. >> final word to you, danny. if you're playing the rods, i'm going to say no. here's why. even though you might have the elements of some of these obstruction charges, merrick garland has to consider so much more. among those is whether or not it's good for the country. is this a case like obi-wan

kenobi, if he strikes down darth vader that he rises more powerful than before. possibly. is a good for the country to prosecute a former president? he says he'll pursue justice without fear or favor. but secretly he might need to think about the potential defendant in this case. >> all right thank you guys so much. the warnings about the dangers to the nation's democracy, the reverend al sharpton spoke to the president about that yesterday at the wine -- white house and he joins me in just a moment. just a moment. ♪♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪♪ with downy infusions, voltaren. let the scent set the mood. feel the difference with downy.

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i think what he was able to do was cast the whole question of where we are in the middle of his presidency. that is in terms of at least the first term. he put it into a broader context. we are fighting against those who want to decide elections based on mob rule. they want to change electors, change the voting procedures around the country. i think that using the presidency to define america was at stake, that was very important. in american history, i have not seen our country this close to civil war. we have the union against the confederates, now we are dealing with people all over the country who are taking secretary of state spots. they are deciding per state how they're gonna have election laws. one of the reasons that we wanted to meet and emphasize to

him we wanted to say that democracy was always defined differently for blacks anyways. we suffer more. look at what they are doing in various states like georgia. look at north carolina, south carolina, florida. that is where they are stopping things like drop boxes to vote, early voting, souls to the polls. in many ways, that directly goes against the turnover that has been rising higher and higher in those states when it comes to black voters. >> do you feel like joe biden's approach is a smart direction for democrats heading into the midterms? again, let's play a part of that speech for folks. here it is. >> maga forces are determined to take this country backwards. backwards to an america where there is no right to choose, no right to privacy, no right to contraception, no right to

marry who you love. they promote authoritarian leaders. they fanned the flames of political violence. they are a threat to our personal rights, the pursuit of justice, to the rule of law, to the very soul of this country. >> rev, is there's a unifying message? does not even matter? it is an important message. will it help democrats in the fall in the midterms? >> i think that it is a unifying message for those who want to see that people have the right to privacy. people have the right to choose. people have the right to deal with the things that he outlined. i believe that is the majority of americans. will it get right wingers? no, i don't think there is anything that it will do to get them. what he does do on a political level is energize those communities that he referred to.

they are under threat. they need to know that he is going to be very vocal and energetic on their behalf. to not do that is unwise political move. it is tantamount to declare where we are in a crisis in this country in terms of saving the soul of the country. this is what the country is supposed to stand for. it is at risk. we could go back to a state by state process. it could be the invasion of women's rights to choose, the invasion of people's privacy, the invasion of lgbtq rights. it is a clear systemic method of disenfranchising black voters. we have always had to fight for it, fight to maintain it, even after the voting rights act. that was all the way up into 2013. it was basically gutted by the supreme court. >> that brings me to the question. i want to have you discuss the meeting that you and other

civil rights leaders had with president biden at the white house. i mean, this is coming right after his speech. the national action network's declared a state of emergency for american democracy. how maligned is the presidents with the civil rights leaders demand? give me a example of the most important issues. >> the meeting was very candid. this has been our -- we have had one or two meetings with him before. he said he would consistently meet with. us it just happened to fall the day after the speech. it set a different kind of environment. i think that was good. i think that he was aligned with us in terms of protecting voting rights. he was aligned when we talked about criminal justice reform. we wanted to know that if black voters vote in the numbers that they have voted in in 2020, you do get a couple of more seats in the senate and maintain a house. will you reintroduce the old voting rights act? will you re-introduce the

george floyd act? the president has done an executive order on george floyd type of please legislation. executive orders is not law. the law is something that must be passed with legislation. clearly, we are doing that with the george floyd justice act as well as with the john lewis voting act. he committed they would be committed to doing that. people need to know that if they come out in numbers, are they going to be protected as much as they need to know that the right wing has declared war on them? >> for all of you there may be a glimmer of hope in a city without running water. we will talk about that next. hat next

a temporary type is restoring some water pressure in jackson mississippi today. it's been six days since a major water plant failed and left thousands of people without clean water. yesterday national guard troops handed out over million bottles of water. joining me now is jackson's mayor, chokwe -- thank you so much for joining me. tell me about the situation right now in jackson. what advisories remain in effect? >> first and foremost, thank you for having me. thank you for lifting up this challenge. there is good news. we are seeing pressure buildup in many of the tanks that have not registered pressure and some days now we're still not out of the woods and they're still persistent effort taking place. even with the state team that's their they've been fighting

back and forth with the plants, the many points and failures. many officials shared with me that they have far more respect for those who have been toiling with this for sometime. we are grateful that progress is being made, but we have to make sure that this is a sustained effort. with respect to people being able to consume the water, a boil water notice is still in effect until pressure is restored to every household. we will not get the okay from the department of health to begin the testing or the sampling across the city. approximately 120 samples that take place, we have to have two days of consecutive tests before the boil water notice can be lifted. the first priority is the availability or the quantity of water, and then the next step is to make sure that we get the okay to say that the quality of the water is sufficient for people to drink.

>> mister mayor, tell me about the repairs, what is being done today? how long is it going to be before the system gets fixed? i know permanently is a different thing, it might be a long time, but what about fema, what is it offering to bring in terms of more immediate relief? >> well, fema and members of the epa and even white house liaisons came in and they were immediately helpful, immediately providing information about level of support. as well as the army corps. all of wished are joined together along with the city employments. you mentioned the water pump. it's helping to bring more water. what that does is, the more water they can get into the plant, that helps improve the pressure they can put out.

they're looking at how they clean certain instruments. there are so many various components of this plant that have not been addressed. this is a set of accumulated challenges over the better part of 30 years. so they're triaging all of these factors. and making sure that they're working with it, just as they've been battling, just as the events on monday -- getting a different composition, different ph of water due to the floodwaters -- experienced some of that untrue's day. late around 2 pm yesterday, they had a smaller occurrence of that. this is how they've been battling back with it and really learning the complexity of this plant. >> 30 years is a long time to be talking about this issue. just very quickly, sir, people watching right now, what can they do to help? >> well, first and foremost, i want to thank all of the

organizations. all of the corporations, of the cities. my beloved mayors and friends that i have across the country. i want to thank each and every one of them. our local support. water is still needed. but there's other things. we're in a holiday weekend. people cook with the water. it becomes burdensome. we're going to have to look at how we support our businesses long term and have some real discussions with our federal government on that. and so people, continuing to send those water donations are much appreciated. but think about the expensive needs, sanitary needs, sanitizer. all of those things are welcomed in our city. we are grateful for the immense love that people have showed across the nation. >> jackson mayor, chokwe lumumba, thank so much, the courage getting through this is remarkable. we appreciate your. time >> now there is another prominent republican under the microscope of the january six

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pair of investigations involving former president donald trump. first we're learning more about what exactly the fbi found after a federal judge and sealed a detailed list. agents found dozens of empty folders marked classified. more than 10,000 government documents not marked classified mixed with other classified papers in personal atoms. we're also learning trump ally, former speaker newt gingrich has been invited to talk to the january six committee. the panel wants to ask about emails concerning misleading tv ads about the 2020 election. joining me now, california congresswoman jackie speier, a democratic member of the house, intelligence and oversight committee. welcome back, always good to have you here. get your reaction to the list

of evidence seized, what's most startling to you? >> well, alex, what's more startling to me is the fact that there's 18 top secret documents that he had in his possession after the fbi agents came and sought additional documents. they said, no, you have everything. you couple that with the 20 or 30 other top secret documents -- that's over 50 top secret documents. these are documents that when i have the ability to see them in the intelligence committee, they are numbered. they have to be returned to the individual who is in charge with posting those -- hosting those documents. i can never take a document out of that secure facility. and then the question has to be asked. what was he going to do with these documents? they don't belong to him. he kept two of them in his desk drawer. is it something he wanted to show to his russian oligarchs

who are members of his country club and show how important he is? or was it gonna share it with them for some personal benefit? that's what we don't know. they don't belong to him, they should never have been in his possession. >> house leader kevin mccarthy wants merrick garland and fbi director christopher wray to testify before the house judiciary committee. he's also asking for our communications and documents related to the search. what would he hope to hear? could this backfire on the republican colleagues? >> well, it should backfire. someone should probably file an ethics complaint. we are told that we cannot interfere in any ongoing criminal investigation. now he's basically demanding that the head of the fbi and the head of the department of justice come and talk to him or the committee about an ongoing criminal investigation.

it is unethical and probably illegal. >> the office of the director of national intelligence has agreed to conduct that review, the potential risk to national security, he's doing it for the oversight and intelligence committees that you serve on. is there any sense when you're going to get results from that? how critical do you expect that information to be? >> i think it's going to be critical for us to be briefed on it. i think we'll know in short order. these are documents that probably have sources and methods and probably identity and -- of assets or others who have worked with us and who are in countries to develop intelligence or to share intelligence. so it has the potential of placing our national security at grave risk. and for anyone to suggest that the former president had a right to these documents that belonged to the federal

government, that are closely held, is really -- doesn't understand the gravity of the situation. >> yeah, let's turn now to the january six committee and its request to hear from former speaker of the house nutrient grit. does it surprise you that new green grid is now involved? what does that tell you about the overall investigation? >> it tells me that the investigation is ongoing. they have reason to believe that his information that he shared via email may be of benefit to the committee as they complete the report, and it will be interesting to see to what extent he complies with that request or is subpoenaed. >> in a separate case, this is interesting. the oversight committee reached an agreement this week with trump and the accounting firm to turn over his financial records. is there anything more about what the committee expects to learn there?

will you see the president's taxes, and what exactly -- when exactly are gonna get these records? >> i'm not sure that all be able to see his taxes. normally, the taxes would be reviewed by the ways and means committee. there's other members that have jurisdiction over reviewing the tax returns under those circumstances. so that's probably where the focus will be. the oversight committee will be looking more at the lack of accountability or accountability of that accounting company and whether or not they were following their ethical requirements. >> a company which we now know has cut ties with donald trump. anyway, congresswoman jackie speier always a pleasure. thank you so much, enjoy the holiday. weekend >> in well, for all of you, that will do it for me for this edition of alex witt reports. i'll see you tomorrow, my friend yasmin vossoughian picks

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i'm yasmin vossoughian. we have a lot going on right now. a terrifying situation in mississippi after a man steals a plane and threatens to deliberately crashed into a walmart. nash forced to scrub its big launch today, we'll tell you why and what it means for the mission back to the moon. new details emerging on that legal documents seized from mar-a-lago. this happening as the former president plans to hold his first rally since the fbi search. plus new information on the mississippi water crisis which is ongoing. and bowing out with great, serena williams plays her final tennis match at the u.s. open. we'll have much more on her emotional farewell, ahead. we begin, though, with that breaking news, everybody, in