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story for a very long time. thank you all for watching. enjoy the rest of your labor day weekend. we will be back next week because, if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." good evening. and welcome to "politics nation," tonight's lead, nine weeks to go. right now, on this labor day weekend, we should all make sure our seatbacks are in their full upright position. and our seatbelts are securely fashioned. as the captain has indicated, with big red flashing lights, that we are starting our descent into the midterms.
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and what will probably be a bumpy ride all the way to november 8th. president biden is talking about the normalization of political violence, the spread of big lies, and one ever-growing donald trump who is calling for lawlessness and promises, even promising pardons to those convicted of violent insurrection and crimes. trump took the stage last night for the first time since the fbi searched his home. he claimed that they searched the room of his wife and teenaged son, and again ramped up the dangerous rhetoric against president biden, and against law enforcement. because we should not forget the good news, the cdc recommending a new booster to fight the highly contagious omicron
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subvariant, and the economy guesting a boost with another solid month of job creation, and there may be some hope ahead for the residents of jackson, mississippi, who are now in their seventh door without clean water. in a moment, i will ask the head of fema about the progress made to end that crisis. lots to cover. so let's get started. joining me now is congressman mark, democrat of texas, congressman, glad to have you and i'm sure to get into, it i'm sure you watched the president, and his speech on thursday, normally prime time speeches by american presidents are reserved for dangerous threats facing the nation, russia, foreign terrorism, deadly viruses, maybe a hurricane, but in this case, the danger to u.s. democracy comes from some of its own
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citizens. your reaction. >> absolutely. reverend al, it's real. and first of all, before we get started, let me just say happy labor day. i know labor day is tomorrow, all of the men and women out there that are building the cars of today, and tomorrow, and building defense equipment for our troops overseas, just working on the airlines, thank you, men and women of labor, for everything you do, each and every day for america. and absolutely, reverend al, we have a real issue here, when it comes to democracy, you know, after the soviet union collapsed, in 1991, people really believed that maybe russia could move more towards the direction of the west, and it is really sad and disturbing to see so many years later that certain people in our country have embraced authoritarianism,
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basically never even tried to push back on trump at all, for the things that he said and did, to try to erode our constitution. i believe that president biden was 100% correct, in trying to address some of these issues, the ground work, that the previous president laid, to bring us to where we are today, and we're really talking about whether or not we are going to be the beacon, the light and shining hope, and the examples, and the example for democracy around the world. >> i want to ask about a recent nbc poll that shows threats to democracy is now the top voter concern ahead of the midterm election. more than cost of living, more than jobs and the economy, more than abortion rights. more than gun control. is that what you see in, when you are back home in texas, that democracy has become a motivating factor that can
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rally? >> absolutely, when i'm back here in fort worth, and again, i think it's sad that we're at the point we are, where the previous person is why we're here and many people come up to me representative veasey, are we going to have a six war, what is going to happen, people are very kevined, they feel the threat to democracy is very real, they feel that president trump continues to stoke a lot of these concerns and fears. people are very worried back here in texas that he will end up back on twitter, and when you hear family, friends, neighbors, people that you go to school with, people that you work with, saying that hey, everything that this guy is saying is real, january 6th wasn't that big of a deal, that scares a lot of people here, and absolutely,
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democrats, we need to continue to talk about this, everywhere we go, during town halls, this is very serious, and shouldn't take it that way. >> texans has had their fair share of natural disasters that led to a variety of catastrophes. and in nearby mississippi, majority black city of jackson, a water crisis has overwhelmed the city's main water treatment facility, and brought it to the brink of collapse. leaving more than 150,000 residents without access to clean water. now, jackson is one example of one city that has had long-standing problems with infrastructure, especially due to lack of investments, and yes, it is the case in many other majority black cities across the country. what else do you think congress can do to solve this issue, but
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also so black voters don't lose trust and confidence that someone is there to help them? >> well, absolutely. reverend al, well, first let me just say you mentioned majority black cities, flint, michigan, now jackson, mississippi. i want to say thank you for president biden for helping us usher through it and making it a priority the bipartisan infrastructure bill that passed. we made record investments in clean water for citizens of the united states and it is going to pay off. jackson will be able to utilize some of the funds, some of the moneys that were passed in the bipartisan infrastructure bill, and every republican should join democrats in voting for that bill, every republican, especially in places like mississippi, should have joined democrats and voting for this bill. it's sad that it has taken this long and jackson is going through what they are right now,
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but we absolutely need to show the american public, particularly black america, that this legislation that was passed is going to address this issue, and ask the black voters to remember who voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill, and who did not vote for it, come this november. >> and we must make sure local officials bring that infrastructure bill money back into those communities that have been disproportionately impacted but you're right, if it wasn't for president biden and the democrats in congress, we wouldn't even have that. thank you thank you very much, congressman marc veasey. joining me now is fema administrator, deann chriswell. administrator chriswell, thank you for joining us tonight. and of course, i have to start with the situation in jackson, mississippi, where now roughly 150,000, mostly black residents, are headed into their second
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week without clean water after a crucial treatment plant failed last month. president biden has since issued an emergency declaration. and is meeting with civil rights leaders on friday, and we talked about it with them extensively, certainly, moving as firmly as we can. fema is now authorized the coordinating relief efforts in the region. what is fema doing first and foremost to ease the suffering in jackson, or i said seven days, with no clean water. and what is the biggest danger facing jackson residents amid this water crisis? >> good evening, reverend sharpton, thanks so much for having me on to talk about this really important topic today. the president, as you mentioned, did authorize an emergency declaration, which really gives
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fema now the ability to do a few things. first and foremost, we're focused on the immediate needs we want to make sure we can continue to support the mississippi emergency management with their effort to deliver bottled water and we will continue to do that. we can also, through this declaration, provide temporary repairs to keep the water pressure up, first build it back up, but then keep the water pressure up, so individuals and residents in jackson, mississippi, can at least flush their toilets. the other thing that i think is really important about what fema can bring to the table now is that we can bring in our federal partners and we already talked with the army corps of engineers and epa who will do an assessment to look at what it will take to get this water treatment facility back to a level that can provide dependable service to the residents of jackson, mississippi. and i think what we need to focus on is what those immediate
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needs are that we're taking care of, what is the long-term solution and how are we going to bridge that, how are we going to bridge the now, and the repair of that facility, to mare sure that the residents of jackson don't have to suffer any longer. >> and to deal with the threat that this should have never gotten to this point in the first place. i mean it's not like we've not had people for years saying that the water facility was not working, as we have another majority black city. now i can't get you into too much into the politics but i wonder when you come across a crisis like the one in jackson, mississippi, how frustrated are you with specific politicians or political systems that allow this situation to develop to where it is? >> i know that there has been many years of neglect at this water treatment facility. for us, we are really focused on future, right? we can't change the past right
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now. and so where fema is really going to have their attention is we're going to foundation on making sure we are all working together. when i visited on friday, what i saw was a really cohesive team between the federal, state and local officials really focused on understanding what it is going to take to fix this problem, and then we're going to be able to help figure out what are the right sources to bring in, to help get this to a, to a point that can support this community. we want to focus on the future right now and making sure that we're really hyper focused on helping the residents of jackson. >> for our audience who may not know, september is national preparedness month, and i know fema has brought this up with the mecca, howard university, and other black colleges on an initiative to promote disaster readiness in black communities. and in fact, you spoke at howard this week. and i saw you got some howard
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students to tape a public service announcement. i want to play a little bit of that psa. >> preparing for disaster is important to us all. >> being prepared means making sure i have access to local alerts and warnings. >> there's always a chance to preserve your legacy. >> what more you can tell us about this partnership, and why fema felt it necessary to engage in the decisions? >> every september, reverend, is national preparedness month. and it really gives fema an opportunity to engage with communities across the country, to help remind them of steps that they can take to make sure that they're prepared. especially as we're facing an increase in the number of climate-related disasters. last year, we launched our first-ever culturally competent ad campaign which was really
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geared toward the latino community. what we found is that our messages in the past didn't necessarily resonate with our different types of communities. and so we wanted to change that, and we had a really great success and so we're building on that and focusing on black and african american communities, and those that have been traditionally underserved and this year, we're looking at a lasting legacy and protecting the life that you built. really exciting opportunity for us to partner, against with hbcu ps, like howard, what is helping to promote inclusion and opportunities for black and other underserved communities. woe felt the partnership with howard university was a great way to launch this new campaign. i'm excited to see the results that we're going to get from our ongoing relationship with them. >> hurricane season is starting, and a lot of areas are bracing
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themselves, and some that do not brace themselves, given global warming, i'm saying that areas could be hit, how are we dealing with those areas like jackson that have been neglected that are now going to face what could be an unpredictable winter and fall? >> yeah, you know, what we're seeing, again, as we see communities like jackson, that are often disproportionately impacted by the variety of disasters that we're seeing, and so it's ad campaigns like this that are really helping a community be prepared, but a focus that fema has really had is on how do we help reduce the impact that these communities are seeing from the disasters? and that's why we put equity, and really one of the leading principles that we are following as we are helping communities get better prepared and how we're going to deliver our services. we wanted it to really
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understand the barriers that communities have to accessing our programs. the barriers to fundamental resources, to help them be better prepared against disasters, so we really focused on increasing the amount of resiliency in communities, with the specific focus on those communities that have traditionally been underserved and had a hard time accessing funds. >> we will certainly be watching and hopeful as we face these unpredictable situations, but predictable that if you negligent infrastructure in certain cities in certain communities, they are going to suffer when those situations arise, like jackson. i can't tell you how concerned i am, after katrina, and flint, to here we go. fema administrator criswell, i thank you for being with us tonight. after the break, black americans rise up, as a new phase of the pandemic takes
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hold. and later, my political panel on donald trump, and why some republican strategists were rather not see him out on the campaign trail just yet. but first, my colleague jessica leyton with today's other news stories. >> jessica? >> thank you, reverend al. stories we're watching for you at this hour, memphis police say they arrested a man in connection with a case of a missing jogger. 34-year-old lyza fletcher went missing while jogging by the university of memphis and police arrested cleotha abston with tampering of evidence and police have yet to find the missing mother of two. firefighters in northern california still trying to get two wildfires there under control. the mill and mountain fire have burned about 16 square miles of land and destroyed about 100 homes so far. they are 25% and 5% contained
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respectively. three people have been hurt. the cause of those fires still being investigated at this hour. and in pakistan, engineers say they have cut into an embankment of the lake in the southern part of that country, to try to stop it from overflowing. authorities say the move will save about 500,000 people living in a nearby town, from more flooding after weeks of monsoon rain. more than 1200 people already have been killed. more politics nation with reverend al sharpton coming up after the break. break. is driven by eosinophils, which nucala helps reduce. nucala is a once-monthly add-on injection for severe eosinophilic asthma. nucala is not for sudden breathing problems. allergic reactions can occur. get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. infections that can cause shingles have occurred. don't stop steroids unless told by your doctor. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. may cause headache, injection site reactions, back pain, and fatigue. ask your asthma specialist about a nunormal with nucala.
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this week, the next round of coronavirus boosters will be made available across the country. the new shots are recommended for people who have already gotten initial vaccine, plus one, or two boosters. and received their last shot more than two months ago. recently, many americans have returned to normal life after two years of pandemic disruption. employees working from home, are able to return to the office, people are traveling again, and reconnecting with loved ones. but it's important to remember there's progress, this progress isn't happening because the virus has gone away. covid variants continue to emerge and the number of new cases reported daily in the u.s.
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(fisher investments) yep. we do better when our clients do better. at fisher investments, we're clearly different. welcome back to "politics nation." our great political panel is joining me now on this labor day weekend. former democratic senator doug jones of alabama, and former republican representative david jolly of florida. welcome to you both. doug, you go first. your reaction of what we're seeing this week. the current president talking about the democratic system and the former president still engaged in just that, threatening our government, our judiciary system, our department of justice, our fbi, what are your thoughts about this week in both? >> first off, reverend al, let me congratulate you on 11 years
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of "politics nation" and being a voice for so many people across this country. congratulations. >> thank you. >> i thought what we saw this week is simply what we're seeing across america. people are saying that polls are showing that americans believe, that the number one believe these days is there is a threat to democracy, the problem is, coming at it from different angles. you know, donald trump did this week exactly what he has done for the last five or six years, he has spewed hate and divisive rhetoric, trying to whip up his base, in a frenzy. and i know that president biden's speech was criticized as being divisive but in fact, it was a call to unity. what president biden did on that stage was to simply call out a faction of the republican party, a faction, it is not all of donald trump supporters, it is not all of donald trump voters from 2020, not by any stretch, but there is a faction of that party is that is quite frightening and a threat to
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democracy right now, and i think the president was right to call that out, could he have done and said things in a little bit different way, perhaps, but the fact that this is a conversation that we've had to have and i think people will start talking about this and start talking to each other instead of at each other and let's try to figure out a way to come together. >> there are reports this week that donald trump's political advisers are in discussions with republican campaigns about actively deploying them on the trail before the midterms. some of the republican strategists feel it is very, it is a very risky bet that trump can boost gop turnout without repealing moderates and independents who do not support the former president. what are your thoughts? >> rev, donald trump is not good for republicans. i mean consider where we were three months ago, republicans were in a favorable climate going into november and then several things happen, the supreme court invalidated roe v. wade, which mobilized the left
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and caused some people on the right to say wait a minute, has this gone too far? and then donald trump emerged. both through the story telling of the january 6th committee and what we've seen at mar-a-lago and his own intent to take a leadership role in the party. the republican party does not want to be talking about donald trump. they want to be prosecuting a case against joe biden but even that is slipping away as the economy is improving and joe biden's legislative victory on the hill continues to add up. this is not a good scenario for republicans, what they don't want above all else is donald trump come paining for them in the general election. but donald trump has to make this about himself, and i do believe about a decision whether he will run will be made by election day and that is probably what is motivating donald trump's campaign trail activities going into the fall. >> now, staying with you, david, president biden said the phrase maga republicans. more than a dozen times. is there a difference between mainstream republicans and those
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who follow donald trump? >> there's not a difference between majority republicans, statistically, about 75% of the party is maga, and very importantly, joe biden has to define that, and he did it on thursday. maga is a philosophy that will use illegal means and violence to accomplish what they cannot accomplish legally. that is what we saw donald trump do in november and december after he lost the election and january 6th and what secretaries of state of the republican party are trying to do going into '22. that does represent 75% of the party, which is why joe biden said, mainstream republicans and independents and democrats, in a coalition to protect democracy. the key to unlock this in november, rev, is joe biden continuing to speak to what he calls mainstream republicans, and independents, as part of a democrat-led coalition. >> how can democrats in the mid terms, deliver a message of
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success and a better economy and ending the pandemic and return to work, and so on? and at the same time, thatle mar-a-lago espionage scandal is the three alarm national security crisis. and trump is about to hit the road again and spread his lies. >> it's going to be difficult, i think, rev, you know, democrats often tend to follow the lead of their opposition. this time, we need to actually talk affirmatively about all of the things this administration and the democratic congress has done, and compare that to the plan of the other candidate running for office. and what we've got to show is the success, the historic success by president biden and the democratic congress, and build back better, talking about covid, and the segment just before this, and we're able to come back with a stronger economy, jobs, and not the build back better, but the plan, the
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american rescue plan, the inflation reduction act, all of those things are huge successes, and we've got to talk about that, but we cannot lose sight of the fact that republicans plan, the one they put forth most, have nothing to do with reducing inflation, have nothing to do with kitchen table issues but trying to take away rights, they're trying to take away election, they're trying to keep people from voting and those are the time frames, talk about the plan that we've done and what we will do more going forward, and then compare that to the candidates who are simply trying to take away rights and jumping into areas that i don't think most people would -- and it was mentioned, there is the fact that 75% of republicans, i've seen those numbers, too, but i don't believe it. donald trump has been such a bully over the years, that people with pollsters are afraid to say otherwise. there are a lot of people in that party that are tired of the rhetoric, they're tired of the potential issues that come out
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of mar-a-lago, and they're looking for an alternative, and that alternative indeed, a moderating democratic party that we're seeing here. >> talking about alternatives, david, last time we had you on "politics nation," you had launched a new subject and what is the feedback you're getting so far. >> very quickly, i don't have a formal role, and i was one of the three groups that led to its creation, and it speaks to the people who have chosen to not affiliate with either major pears. we have major parties that are loyal to constituents and 40% of the country says i don't see myself in other major party and the response to the "forward" party is incredible, we have 300,000 new members and i think it will gain valid access. and i think in the next
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elections, the democracy is on the line and i think the reform-oriented movement, the independent voters, they understand that, that is the group joe biden spoke to on thursday and he needs to continue to speak to. that's the group that stops trump. >> lastly, doug, in ten days, president biden is hosting a hate crimes summit at the white house. and you know much about civil rights, you know that several of us asked for this summit, the adl, the national action network, the group i lead, and doing so in 10 days, you know right in the south, a lot about civil rights. and now we see violent hate crimes everywhere, against blacks, you jews, hispanics, lbgtqs, what would you like to see from the president on that front as we prepare for this summit? >> well, you know, rev, that
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summit, i really applaud the president for doing it, and by the way, that summit is going to be held on september 15th, which is the 59th anniversary of the 16th street baptist church bombing here in birmingham. so i think it's important to bring the past to the president, and to talk about where we've gone in this country, where we have been, and those things that we saw, and now, there's a type of hate crime that has expanded, it is not any secret now that we have gone beyond black and white, into race and religion and muslims, you name, it and even some would argue to the fbi, and it causes so much of the rhetoric we're hearing, not only from the far right, although the left has its issues, but primarily from the far right, and i think calling that out, and being at front and center, to make sure, and that's not a political issue. this has got to be something i think america has to deal with, because it is going across the
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world, and we got to deal with it, we got to start right here. >> doug jones, and david jol ji, thank you both for being with us. coming up, a look at the change in world of work. and what younger labor organizers are doing to propel the movement forward. ♪ breeze driftin' on by... ♪ if you've been playing down your copd,... ♪ it's a new dawn, it's a new day,... ♪ ...it's time to make a stand. start a new day with trelegy. ♪...and i'm feelin' good. ♪ no once-daily copd medicine... has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. with three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy helps people breathe easier and improves lung function. it also helps prevent future flare-ups. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia,
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protest in 2020, he went on to successfully unionize the first amazon warehouse in the united states, and an unprecedented victory that sent shock waves throughout the country. he's been referred to as the man who took on amazon and won. and now, he is the president and founder of the amazon labor union. joining me now is mr. chris small. very glad to you have with us, chris, and first of all, thank you for joining me, particularly on labor day eve. >> absolutely. thank you for having me. appreciate it. >> for years, the labor unions have been in decline. but lately, we are seeing a resurgence of labor organizing in companies like amazon and starbucks, just this week, with a labor union victory with amazon efforts to overturn the historic union election was shot
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down by the national labor relations board. alongside the state of new york, you sued amazon for wrongful termination citing racial discrimination as a cause of action. what role do characteristics like race, gender and ethnicity, frame the struggle between employees and their bosses? >> it's everything. we represent what we come from, we are working class. the way we were able to defeat amazon is by bringing people together from all background, all cultures, all walks of life and we show a human aspect to their work environment, and amazon treats people like numbers and robots, treats people with disrespect, and hire and fire people, and ruin people's lives, people, what we show was compassion and love and
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show that their strength and power on people, when they come together, we can defeat anything. and that's exactly what we represent with amazon. >> and you were able to do it, i would note, across racial lines, bringing everyone together. on someone who knows the relationship between civil rights and workers rights, have long been inter related shall the backbone of the civil rights movement in the '60s, before my active time, when i was just a kid, they were the ones backing them up, and what we've done now, in these times, it has been the lee sanders of the world, and the randy wine gartners, moving forward, how can the two sides support each other? and why is it so important that they do that? >> well, right now, i'm in the point in time where labor is really taking a stance in this country, in this democracy, and right now we need to hold accountable elected officials who don't support labor right
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now, who don't support the efforts of unionizes in these corporations, fighting for workers' rights and higher wages and job security, these things are basic needs and we shouldn't have to fight as hard as we are. but as organizers and activists, that's our job, you know. our job is to push the elected officials that represent us to doing their job. so right now, it's a hand to hand relationship, you know, i have a lot of politicians, in the past, but now they're supportive and doing more but a long way to go and this is a long fight, and this is david versus goliath, and you can tell you now, we all got to be david. >> all right. and let's turn now to worker preferences. the pandemic has changed a lot of people's attitudes and priorities, when it comes to the workplace. especially amongst the younger generation of the national high school of high school scholars survey found that gen-z top priority is the workplace, including a company emphasis on
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equity with over a fifth of survey respondents saying that their own personal experiences with racial in equality have influenced their career choice. the pandemic also accelerated the demand for remote work availability, made employee well-being a top focus, and has put pressure on, for better compensation. how can these shifts in worker preferences be leveraged to energize people in to the labor movement? >> well, the pandemic deemed everybody essential workers and if we're essential, that weens we're a necessity, that means the company needs us and if they need us and we're essential workers, they need to pay us and treat us as such. i think right now what we need to do is make sure we know our value as workers. you know, our value is a lot more than what we've been getting in the past.
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i think it is $15 an hour. inflation and all of these things that are happening right now, in this country, it's still a problem. a major issue. and i think workers are realizing, and that's why we're seeing the boom in the union efforts across the country because they haven't been paid and treated as essential workers. and it is important whatever job, whatever industry you're working in, you can do exactly what we did in amazon. unionize your workplace. job security. longer breaks. better medical leave accommodations. a pension. and a free college for yourself and your children, you know. all of the things that unions provide, and anybody can absolutely fight for. >> last question, as we celebrate labor day tomorrow, looking back on the contributions of workers across the time span of american labor history, how do you hope the
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momentum that you set, and unionizing the am dodge workplace, affects the future equity of working class folks everywhere? >> we already have a major milestone victory this past weekend, with the news that the nlrb recommended that we be certified. we recommended we be certified. we defeated amazon legally on that battle. but we still know there's a long way to go. tomorrow being labor day, i'm telling you now, we're taking over the city streets. we're going rallying in front of jeff bezos and the leaders of amazon. reminding the boss we're the ones that make the corporations operate. we have to bring that alive, build the connection and the bridge with the public and the community we represent. i'm looking forward to continuing to do this great work. >> chris smalls, happy to have you with us, and thank you again
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