tv Andrea Mitchell Reports MSNBC September 5, 2022 10:00am-11:00am PDT
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and thank you for staying with us for this hour of "chris jansing reports." i'm andrea mitchell. following breaking news from florida from a trump appointed federal judge granted the former president legal's team a request for a special master to review the items seized by agents. a special master has not yet been named. there will be a meeting by september 9th. this hour, joe biden is expected to speak in milwaukee. he arrives there and will then
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head to pittsburgh this afternoon, part of his labor day campaign blitz with just a few months ahead of the november midterms. joining me now for more on the breaking news, ryan riley, kelly o'donnell, and joining us david henderson, as well. ryan, first to you. you've now had an hour -- you have given him an hour to look through this. let's talk about what you have learned as we've all been speed reading this report of this judge's order which came out about an hour ago. ryan? >> that's right. one of the citations here is they mentioned rudy giuliani as a special master and the idea of having someone look over the questions of executive privilege, and that was back in april of 2021. but that was a much more sort of limited circumstance, because that was -- first of all, giuliani wasn't an attorney, so looking over his materials was much more complex, because he had to protect all the materials
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of talking with his client, so the fbi search -- this could be a particularly cumbersome process when they open up this idea of looking at whether or not executive privilege claims should set some of these records they seized from mar-a-lago aside, because this isn't just rudy giuliani's communications with the president. this is pretty much all of the material from the white house that hard been seized and kept in mar-a-lago. so they're going to have to make these calls about executive privilege on a boat load of documents that were never supposed to be in trump's possession in the first place. i can't imagine this is going to be an expedited process, because it's one thing when you are just talking about questions of attorney/client privilege. but if you really open this up to a special master, looking through to what we know is 11,000 pages of government
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documents, this can get complicated really, really quick, andrea. i just think it could get really messy, if that's the path we go down. so i'm curious to find out what doj does here, whether or not they go with an appeal or live with this. that's the investigation, whether or not these records that donald trump was not supposed to have in the first place. >> and kelly, we haven't seen or heard a direct response from former president trump. but this is a clear win for him and his legal team. they were criticized by a lot of people saying they had opened up pandora's box for even asking for a master, because that precipitated the filing by the justice department, then the judge's order telling them to be even more specific. so a lot was released that ordinarily would have been kept secret. >> reporter: yes, it was a very fulsome response by the department of justice, certainly
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people with more knowledge about how investigations work. so a lot of what appear to be very damaging material against the former president and some of his counsel because of what was put through that filing. that gave us the evidence photo that allowed us to see evidence of classification markings on documents inside the trump 45 office as it's known. also, a lot more detail about the numbers of documents and so forth. and that was all because the former president made this request, and the response it drew from the department of justice gave us a lot more detail. one of the things so far in this, the former president has not formally exerted -- assert executive privilege on any of these documents yet. so that is something that would have to be litigated down the line. what the judge here, judge cannon, who was appointed by former president trump when he was in office, she is saying that a special master needs to
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be included here, in part because of the potential damage to reputation, to the potential of material that could be given to investigators that is personal material. and that the former president, she really specifically writes about the fact that the nature of him being a former president, the unprecedented circumstance here, the media involvement, the scope of public interest, is all so great, that having an extra set of eyes, extra care, someone not involved in the investigative process or not employed by the department of justice, to review these documents is warranted. she says in her writing here that, yes, it is not ideal to have an investigation slowed down. she's telling the government to stop investigating using these documents but allowing the
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assessment to the risk of national security to carry on. with that comes additional burdens bringing about fairness and the perception of fairness. and that is something where the former president has amped that up to an extreme degree, where he's claimed he's been so unfairly treated. even though the department of justice has gone through this. and the judge here finds that his constitutional rights have been protected thus far. so there's so much to read in this. we have many more steps to come. but this is undeniably a victory for donald trump today. >> and david henderson, i want you to jump in here. this judge was appointed by, we should point out, she was a lame duck appointment and confirmation late in the game after he lost the election. i want to read an excerpt from the judge's ruling.
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>> david, there's already been a lot of disclosure to the public because the former president applied for the master, which led to the unusual justice department affidavit -- rather not in the affidavit, the brief to this judge opposing the master, which included a lot of more information about why they had justified -- this was a justified search and what they had gotten. and the judge herself said last week she wanted more detail, so they released even more, which is when we found out about the folders that said, you know, the classified folders that were empty. so in a way, he brought a lot of disclosure upon himself, just by going after this master already. >> andrea, that's right. i'm going the give you a quote from my favorite legal movie "a
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few good men." there's a difference between paper law and trial law. part of the reason i'm saying that, i'm a trial lawyer, and when we talk about president trump, you've always got to think about this in terms oh of the fact he's going to push the legal process as far as he can. the special master was something that was always going to happen. i could have told you from the beginning that one was asked for, he was going to get it. it doesn't matter who the judge is. he's saying they showed up and took a bunch of boxes and arguing about whether or not the information in that box belongs to them. some of that is mine, and somebody needs to sort through and see whether or not i have a legitimate claim, that some of it needs to be returned back to me. he was always going to get that. but it payments doj and the justice department further into a corner, because enough hype has been built around this to where you are going to have to do something at the end of the day. as reprehensible as much of his conduct is, you do not yet have a story that ultimately will
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lead everyday people to convict based on the information you have so far. the longer this gets discussed in the public, the further off their game prosecutors are going to be thrown, because this is not their arena. this arena is much better suited for a former reality tv star, which president trump. >> and the justice department doesn't indict if they don't think they can convict. david, let me just say, one prominent lawyer, bill barr, the former attorney general, was with the president all through the mueller probe and helped to sort of -- this is what he had to say about the search and about the president's claim that he had a right to these classified documents. >> no. i can't think of a legitimate reason why they should have been -- could be taken out of the government, away from the
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government if they're classified. how long is the government going to try to get that back? they jawbone for a year, they were deceived on the voluntary actions taken. they then went and got a subpoena. they were deceived on that. they feel. and the facts are starting to show that they were being jerked around. >> so david, how frustrated do you think the justice department officials are that not the, you know, not the damage assessment by the director of national intelligence, but the investigation itself is put on hold? >> i mean, 100%, andrea. this is what it comes down to. if you want to start a fistfight with a prosecutor, you accuse them of being dishonest. so when these administrations change over, maybe the upper echelon changes, but you have people in the trenches who have been there 10, 20, 30 years doing the same work.
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every time their integrity gets questioned, they are banging on the a.g.'s door saying we need to reply. this is something we've discussed before, that is the law is a game of nerves, and president trump knows that. the more tension getting mounded, the more you run the risk that somebody makes a mistake. given where he stands, that's what he is hoping for. barr's comments were on point, but we're far outside the specific search warrant. he's forcing a greater reply, and they're not in position to answer. >> what do we expect from the justice department? do you think we'll hear from them today? >> potentially. it's a delicate issue. they like to speak through these court proceedings, they like to go through the four corners of
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the court filing. there is one line i wanted to point out from this judge's ruling. she's a 41-year-old trump appointed judge, a young judge who was obviously appointed by the individual in question here. so a lot of complicated factors here. she does grow with the government on one point, which is there is not enough evidence right now that the government showed callous disregard to the former president's constitutional rights. she writes, the court agrees with the government that at least based on the record to date, there has not been a compelling showing of callus disregard for plaintiff's constitutional rights. this cuts against the exercise of equitable jurisdiction. so essentially saying here that based on the really lengthy record that the justice department has put out, that this was a good showing by doj, why they took these steps. but basically, she's coming to the conclusion, not necessarily based on just a reading of the
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law, but based on these outside factors and the unprecedented nature of this, that there's a need for more oversight in this issue. that could have profound effects on this ongoing criminal investigation, andrea. >> ryan, david, kelly, thanks to all of you. and biden on the midterm trail. he's in milwaukee for his labor day fall campaign kickoff. we expect to hear from him momentarily and will bring it to you live. a democrat in michigan, congresswoman debbie dingell will be here to watch along with us. stay with us. h us
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robert gibbs, and congresswoman debbie dingell. welcome all. your history of covering joe biden on labor day is replete with plenty of stops. we have you in pittsburgh, include thing labor day, i guess years ago? >> that's right. >> talk about what this means for your political future. is this an audition for 2020? >> i've been with these guys my whole life. my grandfather said you're a laborer from belt buckle -- i would go anywhere with these guys. >> so the question, mike, are the labor guys still with him, given just how red-ish pennsylvania is going according to the polling and the way the vote went last time around? >> reporter: yeah, andrea. this is obviously kind of a political home base for the
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president. this is not just where he had that audition for 2020 four years ago. it was where he held his first rally of his 2020 campaign and final rally with lady gaga of the 2020 campaign, as well. so this is really an important day, an important moment for the president to start the democrats off on a, you know, optimistic foot. he's going to be talking about him being, as he sees himself, the most pro union in american history, and talking about those economic successes of late, including the inflation reduction act. and it's an important balancing act. there are a lot of reasons why democrats feel like maybe not that they no longer face head winds. they certainly feel their political portions have improved because of the abortion decision. but also there is an important opportunity and need for democrats to talk about bread and butter issues that are important to union workers like the economy. listen to part of my conversation this morning with josh shapiro, the democratic
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nominee for governor, who talked about these walking and chewing gum at the same time. take a listen. >> abortion really did seem to change the race for a lot of democratic candidates across the country. what are you finding voters are most interested in as you talk to voters across the state? >> pennsylvanians know how to walk and chew gum. they can think about multiple things at the same time. i'll protect a woman's right to choose. i'll protect people's right to vote. i think people across pennsylvania understand we have to do both. create opportunity and defend our freedoms. >> reporter: so andrea, that's quite a statement from a potential future pennsylvania governor when you know the history, as you know well in pennsylvania, of a former pennsylvania governor, bob casey, who was anti-abortion. even joe biden, of course, has had his position on abortion evolve over the years. that's one of the main reasons democrats feel like they have a fighting chance here.
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i spoke this morning with congressman conor lamb. he ran in that senate primary. he had run in three tough house races over the years, in a trump leaning district. he said yes, abortion has given democrats a real uphill opportunity that is less so now, but he said we need to focus on those bread and butter issuing, as well. that was the same message from the local union leader, as well, saying bide season a pro union president. we're getting back to basics and talking about the economy. >> yet congresswoman, donald trump was in pennsylvania following on the heels of the president there, he was there saturday night, the president was just there a couple days earlier. and he's got real appeal in your state of michigan. real appeal in wisconsin, outside of milwaukee. you know, pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, three states that are really important to the democrats, but they are going to be a lot tougher in this midterm, aren't they?
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>> you can't take michigan for grant it. donald trump is obsessed with this state. my hair looks frizzy because i've been at eight different union picnics already and five more to go. and i have been with the ipw, the laborers, the pipe fitters, the paint fitters, and they are worried about the economy. they like what joe biden is doing. the younger workers feel like he's striving hard to give them an environment and is supporting them in their ability to unionize at starbucks and other local stores. some of the older established unions are worried. uaw is worried about what do electric vehicles mean? joe biden understands their insecurity, and he knows he's got to talk to them, and i know that's why we're going to win in november. [ inaudible ]
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>> robert gibbs, you had fetterman there today in pennsylvania with the president, but not there in his last appearance. and you've got men della barnes, the senate candidate in wisconsin, not even showing up in milwaukee, even though he's in milwaukee at other events today. what kind of a snub is that to a president whose poll numbers have been edging up and producing legislative victories for democrats? >> andrea, i think each candidate is going to make decisions by the week and by the event on whether or not they appear with the president or really any surrogate. i think that's not really all that terribly uncommon. i would say that most candidate it is you look at what's happened over the last six weeks that you mentioned, the president's approval rating has gone from about upper 37% to more than 42%. so over the last six weeks, the
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president's political health has gotten stronger. i think if you look at the excitement among the democratic base, that's clearly ramped up. so i think with this nine-week sprint going into election day from today and labor day, i think you're going to see more and more people that do appear with him. but, again, each of these candidates is going to make their own decisions. >> congresswoman, what about the abortion issue and how big of a motivator that is after the kansas referendum and what we have seen in those two special elections, as well? >> i can tell you that in michigan, it's the number one issue. i just got my polling back from my election, and choice was the number one issue. the economy was number three. but if you're out and about, there are a lot of republican women that are very uncomfortable with the reversal of roe v. wade. for me, like myself, i'm a
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catholic woman, i couldn't, but it is an individual's right to choose. and there are -- [ inaudible ] -- because of that issue. so it is front and center on this ballot and it's going to drive people to the polls in november, without question. >> mike, i also wanted to ask you about the president's speech last week. the criticism has been from some that it was too hard edged, by going after the maga republicans and, you know, calling them names, and of course, going after donald trump by name, that he also may have turned off some independents and some other republicans, even those who don't fully support donald trump. what do you say? >> reporter: yeah, andrea, i think it was important when you looked at the president's remarks, he did try to make an explicit distinction between what he called main stream republicans and that extreme
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maga wing. but i've been talking to democrats and others close to the white house who felt like the president could have been clearer in making that distinction. one perp told me that perhaps the president could have invoked the name of liz cheney to make it clear, as the president did himself say the next day, he wasn't talking about anybody who voted for donald trump being part of who that message was directed toward. he understands that people vote for a number of reasons. but he was trying to talk specifically about those people who, as he sees it, embrace political violence and don't accept the results of free and fair elections. it was interesting as part of my conversation this morning with josh shapiro, he did distance himself from the president and his speech there. he said i'm not sure whether that helps me or hurts me here in my race, but he's focused on washington county versus what's taking place in washington, d.c. >> robert gibbs, how do you
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weigh the balance between going after donald trump, who is now looming so large, especially because of all the events on the legal front, and dominating the conversation and drawing that contrast without turning off republicans and others who might vote for democratic candidates, might cross over? >> yeah, it's a great question, too. i think the most important thing is that this president is trying very hard to bring donald trump into parts of the discussion in this campaign that i think are good contrasts for him and for other democrats. particularly on democratic -- on issues of democracy. we've seen those issues in the nbc poll and other polls become more important for voters. and i think each time that this president can make the election a choice rather than a referendum on him, he'll be well served and candidates will be well served. >> well, mike, robert, and congresswoman debbie dingell, we
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let's hear from simone. chuck, that's a club i want to join! i literally just said that. i like her better than you the new subway series. what's your pick? fears of a nuclear meltdown are ripping parts of southeastern ukraine, where a nuclear plant is caught in the middle of renewed fighting. russia claims ukraine targeted the territory on sunday. both sides accusing the other of endangering the plant. international inspectors are set to report back to the u.n. tomorrow on efforts to avert a potential catastrophe. although they said last week they were worried about the plant's physical integrity. so admiral, this is the first time i can recall a nuclear plant of this size in the middle of a war zone that there's no
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cease-fire or any negotiation to protect it. >> it's a very dangerous situation. the closest we could come to it would be the fukushima japan scenario where you have an earthquake and a tsunami at the same time, creating an almost combat-like effect. that put hundreds of thousands of people at risk with radiation. and it caused hundreds of billions of dollars in damages. the potential here is equally high. the other obvious parallel is chernobyl. but, again, no war zone there. what's deplorable is that this is preventable at this point. and the international community needs to put additional pressure on vladamir putin to create a no-fire zone, a free-fire zone around this vital nuclear power plant. >> you told me nearly a week ago
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that this plant was "a ticking time bomb." the fact that the inspectors have been able to get in and assess the situation, does that's your mind at all? >> it does a tiny bit, and the inspection team, which came from the iaea, the international atomic energy agency, is going to leave a couple of observers there. those are brave men and women willing to stay and dlifer in this combat zone. but to be honest, andrea, we need to be very concerned about this. that clock is ticking closer and closer to midnight. >> and admiral, the other issue here is a possible no-fly zone, is that something that could be initiated? >> by threatening to nut a no-fly zone over this, enforced by nato jets, u.s. combat
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aircraft, i think that would create the kind of pressure on vladamir putin that might, and i underline the word "might," get him to back down, get his troops out of this, this nuclear power plant zone. there are six reactors here, andrea. and the comparison here is, we put pressure on him, about the blockade of the black sea that he was effecting in order to keep grain from coming out. when the west threatened to break that blockade with escorts, putin caved in and now that grain is flowing out. by telling putin very directly, the consequence of your continued placement of all of europe at risk from radiation, including your own country, by the way, the threat of putting jets in the air to enforce this might have a, shall we say,
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clarifying effect on the mind of vladamir putin. >> i was going to point out exactly that breakthrough on the blockade that you were pushing so hard for. they did it, erdogan probably was involved, and did some good here as an intermediary. and the u.n. significantly, the visit from the u.n. secretary-general. and that made a huge difference. that grain is arriving in africa now. there have been ten or more ship loads that have come through. >> they have. and i think the more the international community shines a light on those maritime operations, and kudos to president erdogan, who pursued this very doggedly and the u.n. secretary-general that stepped in. now we need to keep them on and
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i think the same model could be applied here. put the pressure on putin, show him there's no way out of this, that the international community is going to continue to sink its teeth into this particular issue, i think would have a chance of making him step back from the edge of the abyss, which is where this is parked at the moment. >> one of the other things that just happened today. we understand that president zelenskyy is now calling for a war crimes tribunal. there have been various conversations about war crimes the u.s. was late to respond until the president in warsaw said that we should. and now they're asking for it in europe. i don't know if it's the international criminal court or what venue, but do you think that that can be convened while the war is still underway? >> i do. and the question is, can it
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create a reason to step out and enforce whatever comes out of such a tribunal? i think at this point probably not. but simply the act of bringing these horrific war crimes in front of the public, through a tibunal or the international criminal court, take your pick. the light is shining on it, and that is good. >> i'm going to have to break away. we're going now to milwaukee. >> folks, if you have a seat, don't hesitate to take them. thank you, man. well, you know, i think this is getting to be a pretty good year for a labor day. eduardo, thank you for the introduction. great to be with the governor,
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representative glenn moore. where's glenn? there you go, glenn. i love you, kid. you've been there every step of the way when i've needed help as president. thank you, thank you, thank you. mayor johnson, where's the mayor? there you go. you've got those two beautiful girls and a son. i tell you what. you have to be patient with us dads. we're hard to raise. where's the county executive. stand up, big guy. i think these two guys spent all their time in the gymnasium. they look like they're in too good of shape. i want to thank tammy. she wouldn't be here today, who is a champion of working people and always there. you know, the same goes for the lieutenant governor mandella barnes, who couldn't be here. but he's going to be your next
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united states senator. oh, he is. i want to thank pam for your leadership of the afl-cio here in milwaukee. where is she? is there you are, pam. howabout having a union guy as the secretary of labor. if you are going to be in a foxhole, you may want more in there with you. he knows what he's talking about. i promise to be the most pro union president in american history, and marty is keeping me to make that promise.
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by the way, the reason for that, and i have had this conversation with the business roundtable and all the major chambers of congress, it's not just that i think it's important that people get a shot. but look, the reason why -- the reason why businesses should be hiring labor folks is simple. the single greatest technicians in the world. you're the best laborers in the world. no, no, i'm not just saying that. but people forget a lot of the trades, they forget, you go to four, five years of school, you're an apprenticeship. it's not like you all of a sudden step in. you build a better product. it lasts longer, and it's cheaper for the business and better for the country. [ applause ] look, folks, labor day is a special day in this country and here in milwaukee. this is one of the biggest labor day events in america you all have here.
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it's a special day to me, as well. because the fact of the matter is, i wouldn't be here without unions. unions. electricians, iron workers, letter carriers, teamsters, bricklayers, transit workers, plumbers, pipe fitters, steel workers. i wouldn't be here without cops, firefighters, teachers, nurses. i wouldn't be here without painters, pilots, autoworkers, carpenters, steel metal workers and so many others. that's not a joke. that's not a joke. i got elected when i was 29 years old to the united states senate in a state that was recently won right to work. because union labor endorsed me and fought for me. so the bad news for you, i'm here because of you. look, the middle class, the middle class built america. everybody knows that. but unions built the middle class.
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that's a fact look, folks, i believe we're at a flexion point in american history. it comes around every five or six generations, where one of those moments where everything is changing. everything is changing. and we're going to have to ask whether we want to be a country that moves forward or backwards. we're going to build a future, or we're going to obsess about the past. i've said many times, we're the only country in the world that's come out of every crisis we ever faced stronger than we went in it. no other nation has done that. and we do it because we've been a nation of unity, of hope, optimism. not of violence and hatred. i want to be clear up front, not every republican is a maga republican. not every republican embraces that extreme ideology.
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i know because i've been able to work with main stream republicans my whole career. but the extreme maga republicans in congress have chose on the go backwards, full of anger, violence, hate and division. but together, we can and we must choose a different path. i really mean it. we have to. the future of unity, of hope, of optimism. we're going to choose to build a better america. a better america. there's no question it's been a hard few years but we have come a long way. today, covid no longer controls our lives. more americans are working at any time than in american history. last year, more people applied to start small which is than any year in history. but it didn't just happen. we never gave up.
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we never gave in. and we're delivering for working class americans now. there will be 10 million more jobs ever created. wages are up. unemployment remains near a 50-year low. and the big reason for all this is the american rescue plan that i signed into law shortly after taking office. with the help of your democratic members of congress, that's how we got it done. not one single republican vote. the plan took america out of an economic crisis to economic recovery. here in wisconsin, your governor and your mayor of milwaukee used that money like it's supposed to be used, keeping city workers on the job in the face of rising costs. keeping streets safe by fixing street lights.
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training 130 new firefighters, hiring close to 200 more police officers. not a single republican voted for that. not one single one. every single republican in congress in this state voted against that funding. so let me remind you, i really mean it, let me remind you, what else was in that american rescue plan? a thing called the butch lewis act. for too long most americans don't know what that means. though you've been driving trucks from factories to stores, building our buildings, bridges, roads, so much more. and with each paycheck you earn, employ es put money in that pension plan. but some companies didn't set aside enough, and result, 2 million workers were going insolvent. millions of retires at risk of losing their retirement security
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through no fault of their own. so we passed the butch lewis act to protect pensions all of you worked so damn hard for. pensions you sacrificed for. and retirement is like losing your social security and medicare. it's one of the most significant achievements in over 50 years. i'll say it again, not a single republican congressman voted to protect your pensions. not one. by the way, i know a lot of them wanted to vote it but they're afraid of losing primaries. they also passed one in a generation investment for highways, bridges, ports, high speed internet. folks, your governor has repaired over 1500 bridges in wisconsin alone, just to start.
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when this is over, we'll have the best infrastructure, not a joke, in the entire world. the single best in the world. that means jobs. that means jobs or we continue to lead the world. you can't do it without the best ports, you can't do it without the best airports, you can't do it. the point is, you can't do it. right here in milwaukee, it's estimated 40% of the homes still have lead pipes for the water. because the infrastructure law, the city is receiving millions to replace those lead pipes, to make sure families have safe drinking water. your child should. have to worry about turning on the faucet or going to the water fountain and worried about any kind of lead in the water. look, it's the biggest investment in america since
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eisenhower's entertainment highway act. the majority of the funds are subject to davis bacon. it's not just because i wanted to help unions. it's simple -- you're the best in the world. that's not hyperbole. it's not a joke. you genuinely are. [ coughing ] you don't just decide you want to be a pipe fitter or electrician. it takes you four to five years of hard work, apprenticeships. you're the best trained workers in the world and deserve to be treated that way. by the way, those you know me, no one ever doubts i mean what i say, the problem is i say sometimes all that i mean. i've made the same comments at the business roundtable, to the chamber of commerce, they understand they don't -- it's true. i also signed the chip and
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science act, a ground breaking law. we'll once again manufacturer semiconductor chips that power everything, dishwashers, automobiles, national security stuff right here in america. guess what? we invented it here. we invented it here. in america! by the way, the reason why last time out and last year inflation was so high, you know the biggest reason? cost of automobiles. you know why they cost so much? they didn't have the computer chips to make the automobiles. folks, here in wisconsin senator baldwin made clear that you're ready to take advantage of this law with world class universities and a workforce that knows how to manufacture projects here in wisconsin, this law is going to create tens of thousands of dollars and bringing billions of investments in america, well over $100
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billion in investments in america, revitalizing american manufacturing. where is it written, where is it written that says america can't lead the world in manufacturing? where does it say that? we've exported too damn much! in fact, next week i'm going to ohio for the ground breaking of a multi-billion dollar semiconductor manufacturing plant. [ applause ] the company is intel. it's one of the largest investments of its kind ever. they're putting 20 billion in as a start. it's going to create thousands of jobs, thousands. 7,000 construction jobs just building the facilities. 5,000 permanent jobs for blue collar workers who will make $125,000 a year in those jobs.
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and, by the way, if you take a look, manufacturers all over the world are coming to the united states from korea, from japan, from all over the world. why? you know why the head of the outfit out of korea told me they're coming here? because we have the safest environment and the best workers in the world. that's a fact. we do. i'm not just saying this. this is real. look, folks, it means we're going to build the future in america with american workers in american factories using american-made products. look, something most people don't know but you guys out there in this audience know, 15%
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of our military veterans become union workers when they leave the military. 15%. how many veterans out there? holler out. you got it. in my state of the union address, i put forward what i called a unity agenda, including taking care of our veterans. we have a lot of responsibilities and only one sacred responsibility, not a joke. i mean this from the bottom of my heart and i've said it from the first day i entered poll politics. we have an obligation to equip those who we send in harm's way. eight, nine, ten feet deep in
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afghanistan and iraq. i was in and out of those countries over 35 times, that incinerated waste of war, tires, chemicals, so much. a lot of people like my son 300, 500 yards from those pits. can you smell it, inhale it. guess what? these poisonous fumes just came. people came home with headaches, numbness, dizziness cancer. i just signed the pac act to take care of these individuals with medical assistance and to provide for their families when they are gone! [ cheers and applause ] for god sake, it's the least we can do. it's the least -- well, i love you too, kiddo, i tell you.
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look, like i said, i believe we have a lot of obligations. we have a lot of obligations but only one sacred obligation and that's to take care of those vets we send overseas when they come home. but i really mean it. and, as i said, i just signed into law historic inflation reduction act. it wasn't easy to take on big drug companies, but we did. i've been fighting them since i got in congress 180 years ago. you know, we pay more for prescription drugs in the united states of america than any major country in the world. here in the united states, okay? there's no reason for it. for the last several decades many of us have been trying to fix the problem, but for decades big pharma tried to block giving low are drug prices for those on medicare or anywhere else. for decades big pharma won
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because they had help like your senior senator ron johnson who said -- he said he opposed lower drug costs because it would result in punishing the pharmaceutical history. bless me father, for i have sinned. i mean, come on, man! not this year. we beat pharma this year and it mattered! we're going to change people's lives! we finally beat pharma! now medicare will have the power to negotiate lower prescription drug prices. we can guarantee no senior will have to pay more than $2,000 out of pocket for their drugs for the entire year, no matter whether the bill is 50,000, no more than $2,000. period. and if you're on medicare and you have diabetes, your cost of
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insulin will be capped at $35! and, by the way, there's a reason for that. you know how much it costs them to make and package insulin for diabetes? 10 bucks. ten. if you need that insulin or you need it, it costs you somewhere between $650 and a thousand bucks a month! it's outrageous. well, guess what? we also had in this bill of mine, we also had a provision that affected people who weren't on medicare. but because of the leadership of your senior senator and others, it got defeated. but i'm coming back and getting it. [ cheers and applause ] imagine -- think about this. imagine being a mom or a dad.
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i mean this from the bottom of my heart. imagine being a mom or dad with type 2 diabetes and knowing you don't have the insurance and you can't pay for it. think about how it would rip your heart out. it's wrong! it's simply wrong and we're going to end it. it costs ten bucks and you can make 35 if you want. that's it. for decades the biggest corporations -- and by the way, i know corporations. i come from the corporate state of the world. more corporations are incorporated in delaware than every other nation -- every other state in the country combined, okay?
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so i can write a doctorate on corporations. it's not like i'm anti-corporation generically, but i do think everybody should pay their fair share. and, by the way, and by the way, look, for decades the biggest corporations and the wealthiest americans have fought to block a fair tax code. republicans passed a $2 trillion tax cut mainly benefiting the wealthiest corporations under the trump administration. by the way, increased the debt by $2 trillion. well, guess what? in 2000, 55 of those corporations earned $40 billion in profit. they didn't pay a single solitary penny in taxes. and wealthiest americans, the 700 plus billionaires in america, you know what their
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average tax rate is in federal tax? 8%. they pay fewer taxes than any one of you pay. it's not right. no, no. it's just outrageous. well, guess what. i wasn't able to take care anyway. if you're a cop, teacher, firefighter, miner, you pay double that tax. it's just wrong. but this year the american people won. now the big corporations have to pay at least a minimum tax of 15%. at least. the days of billion dollar companies paying zero, they are over in america. and they know they can afford it. and while we're doing this, we're actually reducing the federal deficit. you know how they talk about responsible -- the last guy left me with a giant deficit. well, guess what, in my
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