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school, the ideological war over the uncomfortable aspects of american history, and the book banning, all while the u.s. faces a massive teacher shortage. good evening everyone, as we begin the reidout tonight, one day after donald trump got on the stage and called federal law enforcement vicious monsters, and the president of the united states and enemy of the people. we had a prime lesson in just how effective it was when a corrupt president is allowed to put so many judges on the bench. that's because a federal judge who trump picked, today did i'm a huge favor, to put it in trumpian terms, an investigation that could not be more critical to our national security. u.s. district judge aileen cannon, released a ruling today granting the request by trump's legal team, for a special master to review the material seized by trump's mar-a-lago resort resort and residents. so look for any privileged material. now, well that process unfolds, the judges blocking the justice department, from continuing its
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investigation into trump's theft and clue grossly negligent mishandling of classified documents now not only has every single federal prosecutor and former department of justice lawyer that we have spoken to on this show said there was no need for a special master in this case, so did trump's own former attorney general and fixer william barr. >> i think that the whole idea of a special master is a bit of a red herring. what people are missing is that all the other documents taken, even if they claim to be executive privilege, either belong to the government because they are government records, even if they're classified, even if they're subject to executive privilege, they still beyond the government and go to the archive. if in fact he sort of stood over scores of boxes not really knowing what was in them and say here by declassify everything in here, that would be such an abuse and show such recklessness, that is almost
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worsened taking the documents. >> and what we know, is that donald trump admits that he took the documents. he admits that there were not only in a storage room in his completely and secure resort but they were also in his private office. we know that some of these documents were classified, with markings putting them at the highest level of the most highly protected materials in the u.s. government. and among the materials seized were numerous avalos marked cost by the or completely empty and yet but despite that this 41-year-old judge -- has decided that trump has the right to have the investigation of that crime, halted. leading up to this investigation, harvard constitutional scholar lawrence trump said this about the judge. quote, she could either redeem herself by starting to act like a real federal judge, unaffected by the identity of the president who appointed her, or her in the condemnation of national security experts and legal made man by punching the
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biggest case that most judges ever touched in a lifetime, and endangering the lives of our spies abroad unquote it now appears that she is chosen to do the ladder perhaps it should not come as much of a surprise though she telegraphed last month that she was already inclined to ruin trump's favor. this is, of course, what trump has always had in mind for his-appointed judges. for them to do his bidding and as msnbc opinion columnist writes, -- to think of federal judges as beholden to the presidents who appointed them. remember, trump has gone on the attack against judges appointed by president obama as quote obama judges. in 2016, he attacked a federal judge was handling a lawsuit against his corrupt, fake trump university, and even called for his recusal because he was quote, an obama pick, totally, biased hates trump. he did the same in 2018, when a judge appointed by president obama put a hold on his plan
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for reviews-ing asylum application for immigrants who pile across the border illegally. but trump, he always looks at everything as my or mine, my generals, my kevin, my classified documents, my documents. joining me now, he will, no professional -- justice correspondent for the nation, and glenn kirschner, msnbc legal analyst and former friend oral prosecutor. i'm going right down the middle to you, because i'm not a lawyer you are but even i know that if i know went into a bank and robbed it brought the money home, took it home, and then went and spend a bunch of, it a birkin bag and all sorts of things and the feds came to take it i couldn't then say, hold on hold on, i'm gonna need to get a special master and they're gonna go through all this stuff because that's my bag, and that's my car, and that's my money. how on earth could a judge who made it through law school, i
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think that donald trump can take the property of the government, the federal government, take it home and then have to have a special master decide whether they can investigate him? >> because she is biased and corrupt. i don't know what to tell anybody everyone anymore. i've been saying this since he took office. when you allow republicans to control the courts, you get nothing, trump judges do not believe in the rule of law, they do not believe in precedent, they do not believe in, facts they do not believe in logic. they just believe in whatever is going to help donald trump, and they've proven again and again and again. so when i say that you cannot trust trump judges, i don't know what more evidence you need for that fact, right? the arguments that he has executive privilege is so what the scientists would call, stupid, that is difficult to explain it, right the idea that,
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first of all privilege goes to the current president, we only have one president at a time. so it's not trump's privilege to have. but even if it was, as you pointed out was bill barr, who believes that the executive of the united states is something closer to a king then a president, even bill barr says that if he had a privilege, that's privilege still goes with the government not with trump. so these documents belong in the archives. it would be like if trump called for executive privilege over the plane. and then parked the plane, air force one, at mar-a-lago. can't do that, even if it was, us we have the right to take it back. but when you allow trump judges to infect that system, these are the kinds of decisions you get, and people and this is my last point, people in the media needs to stop standing for these trump judges, and pretend that there are like the rest of the judicial system, right? they have to stop countering
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water for them, and start calling them out as they are, corrupt, leave behind gifts from the judge trump administration, to destroy the rule of law in america. >> so just real quick, and i'm gonna get my other guest in, just stay with me for a second elie, it surprised me -- he can claim executive privilege against the current president, the chief cited kavanaugh, one of his other judges, and said that kavanaugh said he could do it. so apparently -- according to her, he can't take the air force one home, park it at mar-a-lago, and leave she and kavanaugh would be, like it's an open question. >> yeah, it doesn't surprise, me because again argument is so stupid, that she's got a reach for straws, she's gotta grab whatever there is, because there's no actual legal basis for her rulings. but even, cabinet the opinion he cites, he just said, maybe he didn't say definite. so to go from kavanaugh was maybe, to actually appointed a special master.
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remember, the whole point here is to delay. so guess gets to appoint a special master, she does right? so that takes a lot of time for however she wants to wait. -- but even if the 11th certificate, it goes super quick, they could appeal that to the supreme court, which is again as we already know is infected by trump judges. and they could delay and delay in delay. and the whole idea here is not to get him off, because they can't, because he's guilty, but it's to delay it to the point where they can get to another election, remove the department of justice, get a pro trump or perhaps trump himself back in the white house, that's the game plan. eileen cannon, trump judge aileen cannon's plane right into that game plan. >> a voila, let me bring you in, glenn. with you as a former prosecutor,
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have you got an incident where you've had a thefts, where you've had the product of the theft in the custody of law enforcement, and have a judge intervene and say, because when law enforcement went into that property, and took the products of that theft, there were personal items mixed in with the items owned by someone else that was that were stolen that because there might have been a magazine that trump assigned to -- wear some clothing that were trump, there were literally thrown in the box with a classified materials. have you ever heard of law enforcement been halted, saying you cannot investigate this person any further, as that ever happened in your career? >> not in 30 years of prosecuting cases in courts both military and civilian. this is the kind of stuff that gets dealt with, if at all, in motions to suppress in the run up to trial, or in run-of-the-mill evidentiary
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rulings at trial. i'll tell you joy, the most dire thing that this judge did, and you just put your finger on it, she ordered the government to stop criminally investigating trump and company, for the theft of national security information. you know what that means? first of all, the good news is, doj said look, we've already looked at all of it, and we are already following investigative leads based on it. but here is where the problem comes in. let's assume that based on their review of these documents, that donald trump stole from this federal government, and on lawfully concealed, even in violation of a subpoena in mar-a-lago. let's assume that the federal prosecutors subpoenaed people to testify as a result of what they learned in those documents, and maybe those witnesses are scheduled to appear before the grand jury tomorrow, and give really important sworn testimony about the crimes of donald trump.
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judge cannon just ordered the government to stop, withdraw those subpoenas. you know what else? when we see use paper, documents as evidence in a criminal case, you know we often do? we've submitted for forensic testing. we look for latent fingerprints that help us identify our perpetrator. we look for dna, at the theo cells -- we leave them on documents. those forensic tests of this evidence of a crime that was found in donald trump's possession, those tests may be ongoing and judge canada said, stop investigating donald trump. that in my opinion is judicial insanity. >> and misconduct, potentially. is allowed for a judge to essentially stop the investigation of a crime in progress? have you ever heard of that? >> i've never experienced it, but you know, what a judges
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order, if it's not manifestly a lawful laura's face, such that you could file a writ. there is a remedy here. the department of justice needs to appeal, and it's maybe one of the few times that merrick garland's instincts to protect the institution, might actually work to the advantage of the rule of law. in my opinion, it's work to the disadvantage of the rule of law, like in his poor decision in the e. jean paul case. it could actually work to the advantage of the rule of law. because the judge cannot invoke a nonexistent privilege, executive privilege. these documents, as elliott said, belong to the executive branch. joe biden is the one who has the power to waive executive privilege. donald trump stole them from the executive branch, and now they've been returned to the executive branch. donald trump doesn't have a legally cognizable privilege to assert. so doj had better appeal this
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decision rather than -- because of you the traditional monster, gonna get more bad opinions and decisions like this one. >> hugo, let me bring in here. what's the reporting on the reaction within trump world's, and potentially within the department of may -- they thought they won this great procedural victory. they see this as a way to delay the investigation, this buys some time, the justice department america garland had previously indicated that they are not going to start taking judicial action 60 days before an election. we're awfully close, i think 64 days away from election. don't push us over it that 60-day bracket so the justice department can't do anything in the lead up to the midterms, they want to buy themselves time, so trump world is thrilled with today's decision. i think they're particularly
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thrilled that they managed to get judge cannon to issue an order on this. the particularly happy that she even heard the case, right? because there was some indication that trump was shopping around judges, the very trump judgment he appointed on the case. so i think the combination of all these factors puts trump in the best place you could ever imagine, given hate is under espionage investigation and potential obstruction investigation. indeed, the tropic, works, especially when you're shopping at home. it's like shopping in your closet. welcome back to an. that's because the question, then, as you mention in appeal. glenn mentioned it appeal. if the appeal is only gonna go to the 11th circuit, which is more trump judges. and to the supreme court, which is more trump judges. what kind of a timeline are we talking about? because, it does appear that we have reached a point where there is one man in the 327 million person population of the united states, who literally, appears to be above
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the law. >> opted like this. if there was a woman trying to control her own body, samuel leader would say, no she can't by friday. because it is a white man trying to get away with espionage. it could well be the supreme court doesn't hear this case. that is just the reality that we are living in. the judge has issued a say, as glenn said exactly, forcing the government to stop its investigation. the government should immediately appeal. back in cocktail of an circuit. a lot 11 circus considering the case, do they lift to stay? so that investigation continue. or do they keep the stay. a trump judge panel might well keep the stay, while the 11th circuit kind of deliberates. another little poison pill that judge cannon put in her decision, that is a footnote, she suggests that perhaps elect circles and even the right place for this case to be
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heard. then should be heard from the d.c. circuit. that is actually correct. trump only here because trump was looking for a trump judge. but now trump judges saying, actually, maybe i should be the judge. maybe should be the d.c. circuit. that can add additional delay. obviously, even though trump loses, in front of the 11th circuit or the d.c. circuit, that decision can be appealed to the supreme court. and they can take the sweet little time to hear that case whenever they want. if that happens, after the midterms, who will obviously happen after the midterms. but if that happens after the lead up to the 2024 election. that come to the within the supreme court's purview to continue this day and not hear the case but again i always come back to this point. because it is so critical. if you let republicans control the judiciary, this is what happens. there is no way around as glenn said, you can't stop a judges order. even if it is grossly negligent and bad. you can't make it go away, if
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you don't have higher orders. well as to overturn. if the republicans control both the district or nail all the higher courts. what are going to do? >> okay, we'll keep the three of you guys with me because i have more questions. my panels got stay on at the inside of the break. and this is key. if this investigation were being allowed to go through, what would investigators be doing. all that to be searching trump's other properties. a photo taken at trump tower says yes, yes they should. stay with us on the special two hour early bird addition of the readout. on of th readout. ore than just an investor—you're an owner. we got this, babe. that means that your dreams are ours too. and our financial planning tools can help you reach them. that's the value of ownership.
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at this picture. this is the newly renovated trump themed bar in new york's -- trump tower. now, if you zoom in, i wondered the little talk is on the wall over there. you will see what appears to be an empty classified documents folder. now, we don't know whether that came from mar-a-lago, or if it is the real deal but at this point who knows. the judge says we can't even find out. back with me, you argue carload, elie mystal, and kushner. i would put up a list of the properties that trump owns. most of the things, with his name on, and he just gets a fee for putting his name on it. he doesn't own a lot, but he owns mar-a-lago, the trump tower penthouse, the trump national golf club at bedminster in new jersey. from the called seven springs, trump, mark and trump are
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kavanaugh go. inside of trump world, they are relieved, obviously because this judge is given a lie and said he's untouchable for now. but it had the trump world began to contemplate, whether other properties might also be searched. >> you know, joy, we have been speaking to people close to the former president for a few weeks now. can i just say, they were aware of this and we're kind of thinking about this. in the days since the fbi first search mar-a-lago. this is been something on their mind for sometime. which i think is quite indicative of almost, a sense of guilt that there might be other documents like around. and something really interesting that i picked up over the weekend. if you look at the statement of the trump lawyers gave back to the doj. it said something that we have reviewed all the documents, i would box summit area that came down from the white house to mar-a-lago. and specifically, mar-a-lago. it was almost certain that
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trump lawyers were kind of covering their backside. safe to say, look, we don't know about the other properties. we only know what we are directed to look at. and to, the best of our knowledge, look through the documents and boxes, and materials from the white house to mar-a-lago only, we could certify that these are documents responsible for the subpoena. i think that's really interesting, and indicative of the fact that there may be more documents, also. >> there's also been claims that trump wanted the documents first library, that's one of the excuses. any top in trump world, ever, about him having a trump library. not that he wouldn't be allowed to just have government documents and put them in there. but -- >> a very kind of blasé level. almost like a joke that trump could have a presidential library. does not like he signed great pieces of legislation in the history, particularly, as well he had a lot of documents or things from the time in his administration that he kept, as we all, though he ripped up a lot of the documents. i would never the trump library
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was brought up it is really the context of when it be funny to have a library. the idea that anyone -- the fact that trump is bringing this up as a defense now is only one of, you know, several arguments that he's raised trying to somehow defend against undefendable proper. >> glad, while all of this is happening, we know that in 2021. that there was a rash of deaths. of american spies. they are being caught, they are being killed. this is a very rail and exigence to stamps. the cia has admitted to that. now, we are not saying that we know there is some connection between the documents and those events. but they did happen at a time when trump did have custody of some really sensitive information. that he should not have had. when you think about that, we can by victor vekselberg, who is being investigated for something else. for fraud. he is a russian oligarch trump crony world, his house recently got raided. his yacht got ceased.
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you think it investigators were looking for something different. but trump knows the kind of people who want to investigate, want to do bad things to the united states, and might not be on our side. and i wonder how frustrated do you think law enforcement must be the way that they can't look at any of that. >> both our intelligence community, and our law enforcement community must be beside themselves, right now. because, donald trump absolutely has information and evidence. about how those documents, that he stole, can unlawfully concealed at mar-a-lago. might have compromise national security. the reason i state that, definitively, is because he knows who he showed them to. who he let copy them. who he let take the snapshot of them. who he might have given, or worse, sold the information that was in those 43 empty classified documents and folders. he has this information in his
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head. at least, some of it. and, from outward appearances, joy. our federal government has done nothing to extract it from him. just imagine, if other living presidents. right? president bush, president clinton, president carter, president obama. if they had information up there. that could help protect our national security. that could help mitigate the national security threat. do you think they would just kind of, sit back and keep it to themselves? they couldn't sprint to the executive branch quickly enough to share it, to provide it, to mitigate the threat? this executive branch, this department of justice, has not, at least as far as we know demanded donald trump sat down for an interview and the brief to provide the information he has a pair. about what he did with those documents. that would help protect our nation. this is the department of justice that hasn't subpoenaed. him and it hasn't compel them to appear before the grand jury.
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to divulge what he knows about how he compromise our national security. i know that is bringing with the problems. like you have the immunity. doesn't that make the prospect of a successful prosecution more difficult? yes. but one thing at a time. we have to take the first step on the road to try to protect our nation. then, the third thing that they could be doing and they're not. they could be arresting donald trump. because, they have probable cause plus, plus,, plus. arrested, mirandize, him notwithstanding the supreme court reached opinion that miranda's electing. then interrogate him if he waives his miranda rights, and extract from him, information that could protect our national security as best we can tell. the department of justice is doing. none of that. >> glenn had tweeted the other day. after learning today that trump had 43 mp folders in his office. that should've contained classified documents. the fbi dhs are not searching and season boxes from the new york and florida properties of
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russian oligarch, 15 vessel burke. what didn't? we don't know. we don't know the answer to that. i wonder from you having read through that. would this order, from the judge, prevent if in this separate investigation of victor vessel burke. who is, you know, a russian oligarch. whose yacht was seized. and some sort of five investigation. with this order prevent federal law enforcement from investigating whether -- i don't know. whether he had any of those documents. could they do any investigation whatsoever for this order? >> it is not so much that i think the order would prevent that. although, there's a credible argument that it does. it is that, victor vekselberg's attorneys, are going to say that the order prevents that. you have to remember that the other side is trying to win. to the bad guys are trying to win two. and what trump judge cannon has done, is given the bad guys more ammunition to try and shield their clients from accountability. criminal liability. responsibility.
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from telling the truth. right, so that is what you all have to remember. there is always two sides to the argument. and, the bad people hire lawyers to. so that is what they are going to say. thanks a lot trump judge. another investigation that you probably just ruined. with your idiotic order. but the bigger concept here, and this really does go to what glenn was saying. trump stole these documents. as clear as we can tell. sometime in january or december of 2020. right? that was a long time ago. we knew that he stole these documents. or the slow enforcement knew that he stole these documents. for all this time, let him voluntarily return some documents two years later, then simply confirm the severity of what he stole and how dangerous he was. it took them another length of time to go after him and reclaim the documents. this is why you can't let criminals walk free.
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closets. >> which drove some great teachers underground. or out of the profession. these manufactured culture wars, have indeed the teachers who are paid 20% less. that similarly situated votes in other industries. if that them exhausted, and heading for the exits. report by the national education association finds that 55% of teachers. expect to leave their profession sooner, because of the pandemic. that is a 37% increase from a year ago. that exodus has left states struggling to staff of the schools. the president of the florida education association told the washington post. that he estimates, there is a shortage of at least 8000 teachers in the state. and nevada, roughly 3000 teaching jobs remained unfilled across the states 17 school district as of early august. and in arizona, there more than 2000 general teacher vacancies. along with more than 800 special education teacher openings. many of these states have come up with a patchwork of solutions to address the gap.
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and the bad, they want to raise salaries. and florida, they passed a law for military veterans to teach in florida classrooms. even if they have not completed a bachelors degree. and, arizona educators, no longer need a college degree. to teach in public schools. joining me now, becky pringle. president of the national education association. and april max kennedy, director foundation of the boston university center for anti racist research. the bestselling author. his newest book as magnolia flower. a children's book adaptation of the short story, by sore adele hearst. and it comes out tomorrow and will probably be banned in florida immediately thereafter. thank you both for being here. and becky, i do want to start with you. because we just recently had a teacher strike in ohio. and, you know, this is fine for my producers on probably jumping around. you, literally had teachers who are walking out because they were not safe. buildings where there was an appropriate ventilation. they wanted class sizes that
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they could actually deal with. they wanted to add things, like arts, music, physical education in the schools. and the strike only ended the walkout after teachers received a 4% annual base pay increase. and the promise that the schools will be climate controlled. by 2025, in the meantime they had to still be at the schools. and -- talk to us a little bit about the stresses that teachers are going under. between the pandemic, all these fake culture wars, and just a physical environment. >> it is good to be with you again. you too doctor kennedy. good to see you as well. happy labor day let me start by giving a shout out to all these workers, honoring in all they do for. us and i want to say this. they are right. they have a collective voice. so they can have the wages and working conditions that allow them to take care of their own families. and return to them safety. certainly, you know, i taught
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signs for 30 years. this time of year, it was only so joyful, and we are all excited, and that's to educate us all over this country. some have been in schools for quite a few weeks now. and we are all was so eager to be back with our students, and our colleagues. but there is no question that is we go back this year, if we continue to deal with the shortages, it's not just what our teachers do and what they want to say that they're done with a pair professionals. and our special education classes. our bus drivers, everyone saw. that council is a nurse. is our faculty members. all of them. we know that this is not new. i've been talking about this for decades. this is a chronic problem. covid just exacerbated it. just like everything else. we know exactly what we need to solve this crisis. we need to listen to educators. they are telling us what the solutions are. >> you know, doctor kennedy,
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thank you for being here. there is a teacher shortage that is urgent. kids are going back to school. maybe facing teachers who have never been in a classroom. who came straight from the military. who may not even have a bachelor and education. it is not clear how it lets them teacher subject i had. that's a crisis facing some of the states. meanwhile, republican lawmakers, people like ron desantis and the governor virginia. youngkin. are focused on. is banning books. like the yearbook. 1145 titles, so far, the band. 1845. 174 authors have been bad. 198 illustrators have been banned. i'm translators have been. banned fans of occurred in 86 school districts. in 26 states. that impacts 2899 schools they combine enrollment of over 2 million students. in florida, for instance, it is don't say gay bill bans
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instruction on sexual orientation of gender identity in kindergarten to third grade. it says instruction all the greats must be age-appropriate. it has to stop oak activity. including prohibiting instruction that would compel students to feel responsibility, guilt, or anguish, for other members of the race has done in the past. with that has meant, and we, life is that they are teaching that george washington and thomas jefferson were opposed to slavery. and not teaching them that they own slaves. that is what it seems to be appropriate for the schools. what are your thoughts? >> seems to me that it is just an incredible tragedy. in many ways they want to our classrooms. they want classrooms with young and impressionable minds. it's almost like a trump rally. but we can't find the truth. and i think, it is a major tragedy. unfortunately, educators are fighting back. and, in many cases, you can
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have kids walking into classrooms. without an experienced teacher. you have classrooms which teachers don't know whether book is permissible so they're teaching them old books. can you imagine that? you have kids walking to classrooms, this week, with no books. this is the effect. of these but pants. >> i can't imagine it. because, one of the best things about the first day of the school, besides get where new school clothes. you know, it's just been with their friends, and class. especially when you are young. the caution was full of amazing book that you could read. having the book sale. they are essentially taking that away from children. and also, making teachers afraid to be in school. whether they are afraid because of covid. and they're saying they can't have mask mandates. or they're afraid to get fired if they say the wrong thing. but around the scientists, or
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glenn youngkin doesn't like. there is literally, a hotline, a tip line in the state of virginia. where people can write out a teacher. who said something that made a white student feel uncomfortable. that sounds like communist china. not america. i >> want you in the doctor talking about really goes to the heart of why 55% of america's educators are considering leaving the profession. what they talk about, is a shortage of respect. that's what they talk about. when they talk about respect, what they mean, of course his professional pay. but they go further than that. they talk about professional authority and autonomy. to make teaching and learning decisions about our students. so if we talk about teaching the complete and true history of this country. that is something that a professional has the training and knowledge to make decisions about. and collaboration, of course, always. with a educators and our
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partners and parents. but here's the reality. when we have things like that. but we have politicization of education. in this country. of course, not only our educators leaving the profession. but what about our students. they are seeing that. they're not going into teaching. because they see that they are not teachers. and the teachers are not respected as professionals they are. >> they're not paid very well. and win and the segment. because i love books. and you have the new book. and i'm going to ask you, doctor kindly, to just tell us about your book. and we're gonna put a picture of it back up. i hope that people find a way to get it. even if it is banded florida. which it probably will be, i'm sure rhonda scent is working on it now. >> finally a flower is an adaptation of a short story. of that title. . and basically told between a mighty river. and a small book. as the book is asking the river
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to tell me a love story. and, ultimately, the river is upset. he doesn't want to tell. it is a beautiful love story of freedom. >> i hope that he will add it to his banned book club as soon as desantis does what is probably going to do it. and i'll probably get a copy for myself, and people as well as we love to talk on the show. doctor abram xfinity. thank you so much. britain's conservative party picks the uk's next prime minister. after a series of controversies and scandals for boris. boris johnson. we will get a live report, from london, after this. london, after this my husband and i have never been more active. shingles doesn't care. i go to spin classes with my coworkers. good for you, shingles doesn't care. because no matter how healthy you feel, your risk of shingles sharply increases after age 50.
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many from inflation to the energy crisis triggered by the warren ukraine. energy costs are expected to go up by 80% this year. the prime minister has a lot on her plate, join me now, from london is n b c news senior correspondent peter symonds. tell us about this, i watch we expect from her. lots of lower taxes for wealthy people in the uk. >> well, she has politics in her blood. right in the way from her student days. she knows the conservative party very well. and the way, joy, she is that classic british conservative that she will change her positions for power. i don't necessarily mean that in a disparaging way, it is the british conservative party are famous for being able to hang on to power. they've been in power here for more than a decade. what they are hoping, is that liz truss will walk into downing street. behind me there tomorrow. and be something like, a fresh wind. saying, i'm going to change everything. one of the things she is
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proposing to do. it's better. right, people of compared to pasture. she is saying that the problem with redistributing wealth and try to look after people in the lower ranks. is what we really need to do, is cut taxes and regulations, and expand the whole economy. sounds a lot like magic margaret thatcher, doesn't it. and she means for to sound that way. the problem is, as you pointed out, she faces a whole bunch of other challenges. that's in the prime minister, from another era, who allegedly said when he was asked what his biggest challenge was, joy, events there boy. i think that's what liz truss will find the most difficult as she gets in the office tomorrow. >> let's talk about the labour party. in this huge scandal, boris chants and was driven out. isn't labour party just a dead organization in britain? because it seems no matter how bad things go for the conservatives, poured labor can't get anywhere. >> they are leading in the polls, joy.
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my namesake, customer who leads the labour party here. they are leading in the polls. but, it looks as if this trust suggests and she will wait another two years for a general election. by the way, that's a sore point amongst many here who are opposed to the conservatives. they say, well, this was kind of like a primary where the general election is already decided. the conservative party is just swapping leaders. they are not to do that. this is a party system. we don't elect a president out here. so, i think the labour party is thinking these prospects looking ahead could be pretty good. again, this is politics, no events can determine everything. >> events in. the hole is a pleasure. thank you so much. have a wonderful day. all right guys, the anywhere. the second hour of the readout, early bird addition, coming up next on this labor day. up next, the extreme of marco republicans versus the normalcy of the biden presidency. also, the next hour, president biden is scheduled to make labor day remark in pittsburgh
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democracy and as anomie's at the state. you are all enemies of the state. he's an enemy of the state. if you want to know the truth. >> without a hint of software, it is that donald trump accuses president biden of being hateful divisive. and the maga crowd is so upset, because i'm a fascist. we're gonna look into whether he actually even made the semi. plus, the new attacks on voting rights in georgia. the trump team is trying to cancel as many voter registration as they can. before election day. we begin this hour with president biden's optimism in the face of maga extremism. we are waiting by the second event on this labor day from midterm battlegrounds of pennsylvania. earlier today, the president was in another state. on the frontlines. of the fight for american democracy. wisconsin. ramping up his push into a critical nine weeks of campaigning before november's midterms. reminding voters, once again,
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what's at stake. >> i want to be very, clear upfront. not every republican is america republican. but every republican embraces that extreme ideology. but the extreme maga republicans in congress have chosen to go backwards, full of anger, violence, hate, and division. but together, we can and we must choose a different path. forward. >> this hour, president biden will speak in pittsburgh. in his third visit to pennsylvania in just a last week. including a speech in philadelphia, highlighting the threat posed by those maga republicans. the center of that threat, the former president, was also in the keystone state this holiday weekend. we've got a rally for pennsylvania aggro publican candidate for governor, doug mastriano. and senate candidate, doctor mehmet oz. trump faithful fascist, denouncing the fbi as vicious monsters. despite recent actual attempts, by his fans, to attack federal law enforcement. they're calling president biden, and we have the state. and it's philadelphia, speech
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the most fizzle, hateful, divisive speech by delivered by an american president. it's pretty rich, coming from donald trump. while mega republicans are leaning into the perennial supper trade victimhood, or they're being called out strikes to the more democracy. a reminder, this is what the former president said about democrats in a campaign speech in minnesota. in 2020. >> the store are second and mitt. attack the right to light. hen replace american freedom left-wing pantheism. left-wing. we're going left wing of the race. some fascist. they are fascists. some of them, not all of them, but some of them. but they're getting closer and closer. we have to win this election. >> of course, the former president did not win that election. in his speech, over the weekend, he proved that president biden claims about the maga philosophy is 100% accurate. trump even through in the threats. the threat of a backlash to the fbi search of mar-a-lago. the likes of which nobody has ever seen.
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here's what congressman jamie raskin explained exactly what this philosophy is. >>, two of the hallmarks of a fascist political party are, one, they don't accept the results of elections that don't go their way. to, they embrace political violence. i think, that is why president biden was right to sound the alarm this week. about these continuing attacks on our constitutional order from the outside, but donald trump and his group. >> joining me now, john walsh, national affairs correspondent or the nation. dean abdalla, host of the demobilization on susan xm. and susan of, percio the republican charges and msnbc political analyst as well as david milbank, the political columnist for the washington post. author of the destruction of the, 25 year crack up of the republican party. thank you all for being. here and i want to start with -- where we ended there. because, jimmy ross goes to congress to snow squall. or a congressman. and gentlemen. he's not someone who just throws out statements.
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he's describing what fascism is. and he says fascism is a use of political violence. the use of brownshirt-ism. the mussolini style of it was that, as much of the hit their style of it was. let me play lindsey graham. because he,, headfirst, try to somewhat walk back his threat that the republican maga base would be in the streets if trump was ever started with a crime. he tried to double down this weekend. here it is. it is just mishandled classified information we've had standards that when it came to hillary clinton. i said something i really believe. if he does what she did with the classified information. and he could get prosecuted, and she didn't, it would create a problem. >> so isn't a percio, this is lindsey graham trying to put a gentlemanly hat on the brownshirt-ism that heat display last week. and what he said, violence is going to come if he is prosecuted. let us just remind ourselves.
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hillary clinton did not take classified documents. home have empty folders full of classified documents in her house. she had a server that she was working from home on, and james comey himself even when he blew up the election because she had that server. then she didn't meet these four test, clearly intentional will form within a class by information. vast quantity of materials exposed in such a way of support influence of intentional misconduct, no. indication of disloyalty to united states. efforts to obstruct justice. but you could say, donald trump did all of those four things. so, that comparison, susan doesn't wash. that dog won't and as lindsay might prefer to say. so, how is it that now you have what used to be mainstream republicans, this was john mccain, supposed best friend. who is now justifying saying that there will be blood in the streets, basically. if donald trump is treated the way every single person on this panel and in this country has been treated, if they stole
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classified documents. >> it just makes me wonder what donald trump has on the gram. because, there is no way to explain. it honestly. i was on your show a year ago, i said it plain and simple, we are seeing the republican party turn into a party of neo-. fascism i stand by that statement 15 months later. that is what it is. when you see the call for violence in the street with not believing in the election results. just like congressman raskin said. this is a dangerous place. and if you're wondering can it happen here? it already has. january 6th happened. and we can see something much worse come november if donald trump does, in fact tried to rile up his army. because that's what it's becoming a looking. like you look at some of the pictures of some of the protests and rallies. they are dangerous. we know that they came literally with guns. we heard that in testimony from january six. so we're not out of the woods. and what joe biden has done.
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he has given a really strong speech. and i really loved it. i believe everything he said. i just need stronger messengers to deal with those independents and right or moderate republicans. because, they are the ones we really need in these elections come november. to keep sane governance in order. right now that is a democratic party. we need to see independent republicans come out for the senate candidates that are willing to make our country work. and put country above politics. so i just want to make sure that we have the right messengers doing that. >> you know, dana milbank, even adding considered denouncing direct attacks on the fbi. a maga fan literally went into an fbi office armed up. but there's already been threats. fbi agents are being threatened. so we have threats against law enforcement. you have an insurrection in
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which there was a violent attack on the capitol which beat a press release officer in the five people. that. you have the demands that procreation be achieved at the behest of the state. state mandated birth. you have an anti immigrant media. and you have a cult of personality. if you look at fascism in the dictionary, you go find all of those things. so, i am really not sure what the republicans are all upset about. other than the fact that it was named. >> well, joy, what they are in fact doing. republican leaders now. is using a fascist technique to rebut it. that is, you make the in group feel as if they are the victim. so they're coming around and saying that president biden is calling you the average republican, a fascist. that is not at all what they're doing. this is like when that to pelosi called kevin mccarthy a moron. and made the shots labeling
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more out about republican voters would want to identify it with being morons. kevin mccarthy is tomorrow. not as voters. kevin mccarthy has colleagues. i don't know if they're fascist. but they're using fascist techniques. that's what a fascist does they're using it, again, to rebut this. and turning around and saying they are victimizing you the in group. they are going after you, they are coming for you, a classic textbook fascist maneuver. i think, it is absolutely right that biden calls him out. and all democrats not be afraid to do it. saying we are not talking about you. , the republican voter, you are being bamboozled by these guys. who are using fascist techniques. it is an american, this is not how we do things here in the united states of america. >> but it has been? the normal dollar, you and i have been called out of our mind for saying fascism. and that was not pretty. we've been saying this for more than a year.
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we've been saying this for a long time. and getting beat up for it. but, the reality is, you have to call a thing what it is. and we definition about it. the word doesn't mean i think that if you go. back it's what fascist used to. say they're gonna make america great again. it is very hard to escape it. what do you make of the fact the biden caught their. biden's most biden the biden person in the world. he knows more than anybody. he tried to be in offensive all the time. and the fact that he got there do you think that is what -- i was, oh we make of the fact that he got where we got quite a while ago? but >> i think it's been reading my tweets. i think that's what he did it. today's gop is no longer a political movement, it is a fascist movement that has embraced white nationalism and wants to oppose its religious beliefs as law. shorthand, we called gop. that's a weird deal with. >> when they're investigating hillary, remember, i told him
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that hillary. hillary supporters are gonna commit acts of violence. we don't hear that because that's the normal way things go. if someone was indicted then a defend themselves in court. not trump. now the gop. joy i actually think after january 6th i don't think it was naive people trust to trump. -- we saw kevin mccarthy go on the floor of the house later. making clear that sort of where they were going. then they realize they can't live without. now we are at a point where polls shows 60% of republicans view january 6th not as terrorism but as an act of freedom. that should scare people. we are dealing with a movement as president biden talked about, that political violence and -- although president tried to walk back out of it here. there's still some. and then his maga it's no longer republican versus democrat. it's americans versus backup. that's what i'd like to see going forward.
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>> it's called quarantining. he tried to quarantine this group of people. some of our voter. some of them are his voters. but these are the people who are willing to essentially kill and die, to keep donald trump or to make donald trump president to get. i guess president for life. i guess that's what they're looking for. it's a cult. a cult of personality. who's saying even weather publicans, john waltz those polls that you just mentioned. this is the cbs poll, and they ask a few questions. this is from the quite wonderful director, in this generation, the u.s. will be more or less of a democracy. 54% said it would be less of a democracy. the same as it is now only 27% -- less of a democracy 54% including 56% of independents. 64% of republicans. says the u.s. will be left of a democracy. cbs poll on the future political violence, 64% of the political violence will increase. 64% increase, joan.
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>> i haven't seen the one about the fact that it is republicans who think they'll be left democracy, it seems like a lot of them are cheering for it, right? i personally believe there will be more political violence. how could there not be? we've just been seeing this uptick. you know, i want to go back to something these susan said because i do think we need independent and moderate republicans i totally agree. i think something biden is doing right now, the president is doing right now, is revving up his base. his base has been dispirited. progressives, black democrats people haven't seen enough until recently things have gotten better. enough of that fighting spirit. and so, i think, that is definitely important. you have the day i think, joy, we are being let down by a lot of our colleagues in media. because they nitpicked biden speech. they nitpick the coloring. they might pick the marines.
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and they have, again, created this kind of false equivalence between his naming of extremism and trump's rhetoric. and there's no equivalence. so the extent that i worry about democracy, which is actually a lot, part of it is that we don't have -- we still do not have a media establishment that is rising to this moment. to handle this threat to democracy. the final thing i will say if you and i have been through a lot of twitter was together about a lot of things and sometimes it might be about race. and, somebody -- let's just say someone person, maybe, did something maybe kind of races. then you see these white people pop up. they'll be like, not all white people. and i always want to say. if people are not talking about. you then don't answer. except that they're not talking about you. that's how i feel about the republicans. >> oh he's calling us fascist? >> if you're not a fascist,
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he's not talking about you. so lighten up -- but don't take it personally. you know, it is all about grievance. so there's no way not to take it personally. it is the windy. this and susan, i think it is an excellent point, part of the thing that does it get foot and when people talk about fascism. it isn't just not believing in investigation found by the strongman who's leading with about being questioned. practically that mussolini sort of style of fascism of demanding that women bear for the state. bear more children for the state. you know more white european women. we literally even have that. that is being aggressively pursued by republicans in state after state after state. in a way that is scaring some republican women and saying, wow, hold on this is gotten too far. and you have all these aspects of. it talk about the extent to
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which that abortion question has motivated republican women to maybe rethink their blind loyalty to the party. i think it is having a huge effect, if you look at kansas will see down there. it was biden republican women, and republicans voted in that primary. but we also need to make sure we don't confuse the fact that it is not that those women were pro-choice. it is that they were anti-extremism. they don't like where the party has come down. they don't like the fights that they are seeing in the state legislator, and that complete band. i came with the party up in the early 90s. we're all i saw was pro-choice republicans from the northeast, it was a very common thing. i think that a lot of peak republican women, and even moderate republican men. are just shocked by how extreme this issue has come and even some pro-choice pro-life,
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members of elected officials say,. oh my gosh incest, how can you prevent that? it is just horrible. i think, going forward the, republican party is going to have some big regrets over how this decision played out. that's not to say that pro-life people are fine with it. but don't confuse the two. there are those who are pro-life and there are republicans. who do have a problem with it. >> dean, you talked about it a lot. you come from the community, the muslim community. who can get branded with whatever the most extreme person claims to be. there you see perverting the muslim religion i don't know anything about it. the whole community is told, you have to condemn that person. you have to condemn that. if you like what biden is doing a saying, that doesn't just apply to communities who are minorities. communities and religious communities. if you guys i want to say that, for instance about the muslim
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community. say that which. other if you have people, in your life, who are saying election shouldn't be. real and trump shouldn't be elected whether he gets ten or 40 million fewer votes. we don't care. no one should be allowed to vote who doesn't vote for maga. and shouldn't have the republicans be told, yeah he should condemn that? >> absolutely. look, during the time of trump, how often do we hear the idea that oh. republicans don't speak out because they're afraid. i'd say no, they don't speak up because i agree with you. i think we have to come to that point where we understand that kevin mccarthy, now,, are on board with the fascist train. even the members in power. and yes where they do? if you don't get out terrorism, aiming to agree with it. while republicans, here's your chance. then as donald trump. why don't you? why don't you reject election deniers who were there on the washington post recently about the battleground states in michigan in pennsylvania. over 60% of the republicans who
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won the nomination in key positions, and administer elections, are election deniers. if they win, they are democracy killers. where are the republican speak out about that? then your present but speak out, gop is going crazy. the people -- with the pc term for fascist? i don't know if the call? it is a nice way to make you feel good about themselves? i wish the extremists would be drowned out, but i think honestly, the extremists are the gop with a small exception. because the good people, for the most part, have left the party. >> that's why the independent seem to be mostly republicans. because they were republicans. now they're independents. as we have for joe biden in pittsburgh, for just showing that picture, he's getting ready to roll. so he's gonna be rolling very. soon i want to talk john, watch the nobility, david and mike, up next on the readout. just weeks before the midterm, trump allies in georgia are moving their voter suppression efforts into overdrive. the readout continues.
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voters. in which county. a solidly republican part of suburban atlanta that has voted democratic for 2016. the group is funded by overstock founder trump superfan, patrick burned. and trump's former national security adviser. qanon pledge deputy michael flynn. who you may remember twice pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi. georgia of course, was granted zero and on trump's effort to overturn the 2020 election. the challenges will not only make it more difficult for scores of registered voters to cast a ballot. but also, but places even heavier burden on the already strained state elections officials. joining me now is state representative, dean -- the democratic nominee for georgia secretary of state. and, thank you for being here represented to win. this is frightening. 37,000 voters challenge. it is also weirdly familiar. because, i do recall that brian kemp when he was secretary of state did something quite similar. challenging more than 30,000 voters to sneak to victory, as
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governor, is the same playbook or something different? >> thanks for having me on, joy, you bring up a really good point. this is not new in the state of georgia. the intent to influence the rules on who could show up and who can show up to an election. so we know under secretary of state camp, and secretary of state raffensperger. hundreds of thousands of voters had been merged off of our voter rolls and in many places, erroneously. we also know it impacts black voters at a greater rate than any other voter. if you remember, in 2021. right before the two u.s. senate runoffs. another trump ally group, came in and challenge eligibility of 350 400,000 voters in the state of georgia. republicans responded in 2021 by passing senate bills to enable anybody to in mass systemically challenge hundreds of thousands of voters all across georgia. going to a local election boards. and putting that burden on our local election boards.
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and requiring, a hearing, within ten days of those complaints being filed. >> when this bill was called, jim crow two point oh, republicans howled. yes this is literally jim crow. this is literally taken someone who took the time to register to vote challenging them. and then making them justify being on the polls. georgia law allows the state, as you said, to take over elections. horrific violence in competent amount of clerks and they don't love ending of the mass challenges and the challenges along the lines of election day. they will face a state takeover. one more bit. the challenge is bringing the total, this election cycle to about 65,000. do largely to a 21 overhaul of georgia voting laws and acted in response to unfounded allegation of fraud. in 2020. the law effectively encourage these mass challenges -- but this sounds like more than the margin by with kemp won by
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as governor. i wonder, are you concerned that because these challenges are now illegal. perfectly legal under this law. that, essentially, camp is going to be -- because the trump allies. that would be able to use subtraction to win. >> right. we are looking at the state, in georgia, we're in 2020 that margin was 11,000 to 780 votes. all of these laws are intended to cut away that margin. when you're looking at these massive voter challenges, taking place all across georgia, the guidance from the election office. they're scrambling, talking to their tierney's make sure that they follow the law. they are in fear of being taken over if they feel like they're not following the law as prescribed. what they essentially have done, is they built to work around around the federal voting rights protection. that does not allow mass merging 90 days before the election. they are doing, it as you said, with just 78 weeks before major
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election cycle. what they have done is they've created a new laws to try and prevent people from showing up because they know the merchants in georgia, are going to be close. >> what can voters do? if they -- are they don't appointed to be playing? the people even know before they shut the state? what would you advise georgia voters to do today? >> check your voter registration, check it. often if you are being targeted like these people have in this county. that 37 500 voters and gwinnett county. you will receive a letter in the mail. i'm also concerned about to be look at a county like, gwinnett, it is extremely diverse. it is a population of black voters, asian voters, latino voters. oftentimes these notices they are sent in english only. this is an all hands on deck moment in which you've got to check your voter registration, if you get anything in the mail, you've got a call voter protection and make sure taken all the right steps to make
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sure that when you show up in november, you can actually vote. we are a state that does not allow same-day voter registration. so, if you are removed from the roles after october 11th, you will not be able to vote in georgia. >> canada department of justice they were suing states prints stuff like this. anywhere from the doj? >> well, i know there's litigation pending around this very same provision. specifically, litigation that came to light right after -- came in and tried to remove the 364,000 voters. and according to federal law you cannot systematically remove large numbers of voters. within the 90-day blackout period. so, i believe, we will see litigation move forward. given the federal protections that we have in place. but again in a state like georgia, where this is an election. it is about litigation. and the results of that are probably not going to be before this election. >> it is not coincidental that
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the ticket, that democrats are running yourself -- stacey abrams. who, as you said came within a hair of brian camped. when he became governor, after purging more than 30. i think something like 35,000 people from their roles. and of course, senator raphael warnock who was running against herschel walker. how concerned are you that this will not be a free and fair election? >> i am very concerned. we are looking, again, at a state with a very slim margin. and that 98-page voter suppression bill. it does take away a vote's ability to use tear drop boxes that we saw helped ballots get in time. what it does also shopboy at the time period in which a voter can request and receive an application to vote by mail. we've seen rejection rates increase on the application side. and with the voter actually receives a ballot in hand we've
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seen the rejection rate increase as well. we've also looked at these and they provisions. by criminalizing handing out bottled water to a voter waiting in line in a state like georgia. people have to wait up to 11 hours in 2020. then we've got this new rule about having to vote and your precinct on election day. even if you are in the current county. you are no longer able to vote by provisional ballot. if all of those things added together that produce a situation in georgia where there is more intimidation. voter suppression. and we know that all those things are going to add up, soon. we, on the other side of the aisle, democrats, we know we have to organize. we know we have to turn out our voters like we've never turned about before. because, we've got to make up for these little margins here and there. because of these new voting laws in place. >> this is jim crow, period. it just is. georgia state representative, secretary of state candidate, p do in. thank you so much further as to this. we're gonna pull some social media you have some share with
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all your friends and family in georgia. because folks need to know what to do. thank you very much. we really appreciate you being here. >> woo we'll, coming up, still ahead, president biden. he will be here -- he will be celebrating american workers at a steel workers picnic in pittsburgh pa. we are going to be covering it, life. after this. after this
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homelessness crisis. so how will that new revenue be spent? new housing units in all 58 counties, including: permanent supportive housing, tiny homes communities, project roomkey supportive hotel units... and intensive mental health and addiction treatment. in short, 27 means getting people off the streets and into housing. yes on 27. want a permanent solution to homelessness? you won't get it with prop 27. it was written and funded by out-of-state corporations to permanently maximize profits, not homeless funding. 90% of the profits go to out-of-state corporations permanently. only pennies on the dollar for the homeless permanently. and with loopholes, the homeless get even less permanently. prop 27. they didn't write it for the homeless. and a moment now president joe they wrote it for themselves.
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biden will take the stage in pittsburgh pennsylvania where he will deliver remarks on the unions and the dignity of the american worker. this is biden's third road trip to his home turf in recent weeks coming just days after his primetime speech in philadelphia. under the threat of maga extremism. since labor day traditionally kicks off the final stretch of the midterm campaign season. the president is joined by pennsylvania democrat senate candidate john fetterman. covering the president pittsburgh is nbc news white house correspondent, mike mentally, and the mobilize. host of the dean opelika. do we have -- what are we expected to hear today? it's guiding going to pre-some of the things that philadelphia. or is it gonna be focusing on the issue of the american worker. >> well joy with a top white house official about sort of the way in which president biden's approach to the midterms. they talk about a sort of a two
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pillow strategy. first we saw very clearly on thursday night. president biden offering a very stark warning about what was at stake in this election. if that so-called, maga extreme wing of republican party is going at the power after november. today, talked about that thursday night. the burden president biden has felt with having to govern almost by himself. without republicans in office. today, it is much more of that joe biden that we've seen so much over the years. we've stopped about what you've seen about some of the successes of the administration. on the economy. it is interesting to see as you mentioned, john fetterman. we just saw the two men, the president and the lieutenant governor. potentially the future senator for the first time since biden was last in pittsburgh a few months ago. this is a pre primary, his before fetterman strokes, and a lot talk but which candidates are pairing, and not appearing with the president as we approach the midterms. that was something we did see, and we'll see that betterment is actually next up in the
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program here. we talk about the importance of taliban sylvania not just of this president to his party. you see, and the governor race weijia shapiro versus doug mastriano. the really emblematic race about what is at stake in terms of a democrat who is running very much on the warning about abortion being overturned, a complete ban in place in pennsylvania. versus them who are willing to protect women's health rights. mastriano somebody who is at the capitol on january 6th insurrection. you have in the senate, an example of democrats potentially being on offense. or the president was in wisconsin before this, and pennsylvania today just now because those are two states where democrats actually think they can pick up senate seats. and then you look at the house races. in the state of pennsylvania. according to the political reports. democrats feel like yes they still face some political headwinds but there has been a real reversal in fortunes here. the president, when he speaks, in just a few minutes, as we think about the ways in which you think he's the most pro
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union president in american history. the importance of working people so this industry. and by those economic successes we've seen like the infrastructure law the chips act, the inflation reduction act, i was talking to conor lamb join us also to mastriano before at the parade today he said, listen. democrats need to grapple with the fact that donald trump is energizing republicans at this moment, he, of, course has run in the race twice in a district that is trump friendly. he's managed to succeed. but he said. we all saw every time joe campaign into the state, and pennsylvania on saturday, the numbers for republicans went up. so he says we are prepared for this time but, joe biden needs to be out here energizing union workers, women, the pillars of what they call the biden coalition. just as much as donald trump is out there energizing republicans. and collapse as you do that mark talked about the economies. that's with the president's focus on here today. >> don't go anywhere mike, if they do want to come back to just a second. but we're gonna bring you in here as well. if you see fetterman up there, john fetterman, and represent the working class vibe.
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it is very similar to joe biden to be on us. biden is originally from scranton. he's there in pittsburgh. and you see all those union shirts around him. that is one of the battlegrounds between trumpism and democrats. that union worker. i remember interviewing a bunch of union workers in 2016. and was surprised by how negative they were about the democratic party in the democratic candidate. and they openly preferred donald trump. he used that steel worker man of still kind of message, to start to lure those folks over. is there a sense that biden is winning them back? >> he would hope so because i have never seen a president more pro union than president biden. like we were saying, talking about champing the pro-act which passed the house to help organize unions i will see the real world impact of this, joy. we see a big spike in positions of the natural liberation board. amazon google starbucks you see
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unions now at the highest by 71% decades. i think that's part of president biden. i'm a union guy, i've been the union should be the backbone of the democratic party. the gop has somehow start to weigh in on other issues. but you don't want to destroy unions because you can save in the playoff field. they have to negotiate with their employer. they help you get more wages and more benefits. i'm hoping we can get some of our union voters back to us. we are the party of the working class. and mike, we are still waiting on biden, john fetterman just got off the state. that is a big deal for joe biden. i, mean it's a big part of his origin story. the unions have organized, for him, in every race that he's won, right? how important is that? that community to biden himself and his politics? >> yes, absolutely. you talk about pittsburgh as sort of been essential to the biden political story. i was here four years ago when he had something of an audition for his 2020 candidacy.
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marching in the parade. he can't really march in parades much more. as president of the united states, he would've liked to have been there this morning. but i talked about in four years ago, and he talked about being in labor from belt buckle to shoe sole. that is very much of joe biden considers himself to be within the democratic party. so, we saw this schuler who is the head of the national replacing -- of, course they had that for a long, time it's a good time to be the head of the unofficial. because she joined him later today in wisconsin, and flew on air force one with him here to pittsburgh. , and when she was speaking to the union audience, earlier, she said, listen we need to get back to basics, we need to get back to -- we need to be talking to our fellow union members about successes, and she rattled off that list, things that only happened because joe biden is the one in the white house, pro union, president and that's something that they're aware of. the union has been very much up for grabs. and they're going to keep it into -- >> i want to, know that the president of the pittsburgh steel worker union is the one who speaking right. now he is the one who has been
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passed with introducing the president, so we should be seeing president biden walk up to that podium any moment now because this is going to be his moment. do we know how long of a speech he's going to be -- never mind, never mind, here comes president, biden he is taking the state. and we're gonna take a listen, now. gonna take a listen, now.it's good to be almost home. well, i'll tell you what, you know, this is a pretty critical election to state the obvious. before i start, i want to say that i am worried about a few good friends that we lost. a guy named jack shea's, some of you knew. and pat collapse. both good friends. people i work with my whole career. they had an attitude that could be summed up in one, word in my
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view. a little bit like my dad would say. everybody, everyone, no matter what your background, this is entitled to be treated with dignity. with respect. and, you know i want to thank the elected fischel's here today, bobby casey is a close friend of mine for a very long time. his dad and i are friends as, well as a matter of fact, we are ages split. his dad is much older than i am to bobby. and we raise the same neighborhood about five city blocks away. we went to the same grade school because when cold grant and there weren't any jobs, my dad was in sales and not into mining. but he moved back down to delaware, where he was from. he moved to a little steel place called claymont. claymont to sub, still a used to have almost 5000 steel workers. the whole community was built and it was a company town,
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literally. and still died. there is not a single steel worker left. we know what, happened it was about midway through, i had got elected and i got very engaged, in my case, in the civil rights movement. and as a, kid i worked a lot in the movement at work, and i got deeply involved in the democratic party because the development craddock party was a southern democratic party. we were more of a southern state than a northeastern state. and i got involved, one thing led to another, and one, day a group came to me with the senior members of the party and said they wanted me to run for the senate. i said, i'm not old enough, and i wasn't, i was only 29 years old and the former chief justice, whose family -- he looked at me and he, said you obviously didn't do very well in moscow. he said, you don't have to be
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30 to be elected. you have to be 29, you could be 20, nine you just can't get sworn in to be a 30. and so, one thing led to another and i ended up deciding to run. but i was having great difficulty getting support. even though people like me, or at least the labor guys, like me they didn't think that i could win. until i got brought up to pittsburgh by a local legal, the steel workers in delaware. and into pittsburgh, i came here and met with then-president who still worked. he endorsed me. about nine weeks out, i won by 3100 votes, so, the fact is you guys owe me. you've been with me from the beginning. and look, folks, bobby and representative boyle represent land, your county executive is ahead of a guy. and, john if i have to be in a
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foxhole, i want john fetterman with me. i'll tell you what, i want jon there. i mean that sincerely. look, there is a whole lot of folks here. i don't want to keep you standing amongst yourself. i just wanted to say a couple of things. number one, i started my campaign because tom jumped in and convince me, he didn't convince, me he made the case that i should not. because with that train, when i was a campaign for democrats. i was out of office. i was campaigning for democrats. but you know, it this is not your -- republican party. this is a totally different party. these guys are different. i've worked with a lot of republicans, conservative republicans, and i got a lot done and it was always something decent about work. but then we move to this place where all of a sudden the reason to made me run was when
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i saw those people come out on the fields down in virginia, carrying torches. literally, coming out of the field carrying torches with swastikas. chanting the same antisemitic violence in literally the same -- chanted in germany in the 30s. upcoming by the ku klux klan -- coop cox gland. and when they asked what he thought whether they were really fine people on both sides, because something is really, wrong something is changing. and that is when i talk to tom and others about helping me out. they decided to help me out. because look, folks, this is where i think we are. i'm going to be brief. the fact is that i think for a period in history where we reach certain inflection points, where everything is going to come after and it's going to change then before for the next generations. we are at one of those points -- every six rate generation.
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things are changing rapidly. you see everything from what's happening in europe and india, from russia, china, things are changing. and the united states has to regain its footing and remember who we are. and, so one of the things that i concluded was that those inflection points are the places where you look back to, five, ten years later and realize that -- it's either better or worse than it was before,, not the. same you're not going to go back to the same. . now absolutely convinced, and no one ever doubt that i mean what i want to say. the problem is that i say all that i mean. but, all kidding aside, one of the things that was clear to me is that this new group headed by the former president, the former defeated president, we found ourselves in a situation where we are really going to look forward and look
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backwards. and as the clearest way he wants to, look at clear which way the new maga republicans are. they are extreme. and democracy is really at stake. we cannot be a democracy when you support violence, when you don't like the outcome of an election. you can't call yourself a democracy, when you, don't in fact count evokes -- votes of people and count them as who you. are you can't be a democracy and call yourself one if you continue to do what they're doing. and so, folks, look, we have a choice. trump and the maga republicans made their choice. we can choose to build a better america, or we can continue down the sliding path of oblivion to where we don't want to go. you, know under the american rescue plan, i'm not gonna go through all these, things but just to give you an example, we created nearly 10 million jobs in my first 16 months, 10 million new jobs in america!
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we [applause] and that american rescue plan, also created and saved billions of jobs, why? because here in the state of pennsylvania, almost every state didn't have enough money to keep teachers on the payroll. to keep the firefighters on the job, to keep police on the job, to keep people, nurses, doctors on the job. so, what did we do? we in fact gave the money to make sure they did it. and this governor, your governor, spend it well. hiring thousands of firefighters in the west. [applause] >> and what happened was we found ourselves because of the greed of some companies. we found that an awful lot of union members were brought to you -- lose their pension. so we did something that hadn't been done in 15 years significantly for labor. we passed the bush lewis act. and they told me, they told me i couldn't do it. they told me that we really did.
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and we didn't get any republican votes for. but we got it done. we got it done! because this is about basic decency and fairness. and look, every single republican voted against it, every single one. the bipartisan infrastructure law, building rose, fridges -- matter-of-fact, trying to be back here not to long from now because we've got 60 billion dollars to rebuild that bridge that collapse the day i came here, not long ago. [applause] >> folks, the money is going to go to the expansion nearly 100-year-old -- them outside of pittsburgh. it's going where it makes a big difference in terms of the economy. and,, so we are going to build a new terminal at the pittsburgh airport. we're doing this all over the country, all over the country! it's creating good, decent jobs. but the reason why talk about unions is not just because it's very comforting. it's more than that. it's more than that. i said, i spoke to the business
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roundtable, the ceo of the largest company in the united states, and that is -- chamber congress. and i've stated before, i said, i'm a union guy. i support it for one reason, for interest. and they look at me and say, what are you talking about? you are the best trained, the most skilled workers in the world. i know, i'm not just saying. that most people don't realize they joining a lot of trade unions that you have to have 45, six years of training. it's like going to college. you get paid, not your their, but not very much. but you are the best in the world. and it makes a hell a lot of sense for america to spend a little more money to have something that's gonna last a hell of a lot longer than it is to do something on the cheap. look, you heard me say it before, wall street didn't go -- the middle class. wall street didn't build america. the middle class built america. and unions built the middle
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class. but that's just a fact. [applause] >> and by the way, the other thing that i found out, i haven't been a senate in a very long time, and vice president. i realize there's a lot of -- under roosevelt. and the press is looking at me like what is he going to say now? i'm going to tell him. that in fact, said by american that we ended any money a president spent that was appropriate, he could insist that the money can only be sent -- spent on american province. what, guess what. we're buying american. and i get to spend of your money, as a person, i get to allocate over 600 billion dollars, 600 billion dollars every year. and they are american made problems -- products made by american made workers. where is it said that we can be a good manufacturing city in
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the world again? we have made sure that we have now 640,000 new manufacturing jobs. where would it say that we can do this? so, i start off with the proposition that it's about just basic decency. i am not going to -- much longer. i promise. here's what's happened you know we don't have a tax system that's fair at all. it's not even close. and, that is why for example i've been pushing for tax unfairness for a very long time. but, guess what? it's -- i couldn't do that either. there were 55 corporations in america 2020 that made over 400 billion dollars that didn't pay a single penny in income tax. not a single penny. now, they're paying a minimum of 15% in income tax. and guess what,? we talk about the inflation reduction act and i have been fighting when i was a senator
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for a long, long time. fighting the pharma companies. fighting so that the medicare could set a price for medicare drugs and negotiate for medicare drugs. well, guess what? anyone have, you don't have to raise your hand, but any of you have a child who has type two diabetes and measles every day, once a week? well, guess what, it cost those 15 bucks to make and packages. that's all it takes. you know what they charge? they charge some of you between 625 to thousand bucks a month. it's wrong. it's simply, wrong. you have to make three and a half times of profit then it cost them to do. it, wealthy said it couldn't be done. well, guess what. we were able to change it. so, allowing, what we've been working for a long time, along medicare to negotiate drug prices. we paid the highest drug prices of any nation in the world, here in the united states of america. and, guess what? there's no rationale for it. so, we finally passed, medicare is not negotiating. no seeing because of what we
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did in the inflation reduction act, no senior, no matter how big the drug bills we are fighting, that there's a chance of any other serious problem. and they are spending thousands of dollars on treatment. guess what? you will not have to pay more than $2,000 a month, no matter what their beliefs. no matter what their bellies. if they need insulin, they won't have to pay more than $35 a month. i have been fighting, i have been fighting pharma for my entire career. and, we finally beat pharma! they finally beat pharma! not a single republican vote. not a single vote! well, i tell you what, the fact is that there's a lot more that we have to do. like i said, we filled 650,000 manufacturing jobs in america
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