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jose diaz balart picks up coverage now. good morning, 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz balart. two developments involving former president donald trump and his associates, the first a new report with details that the documents seized by the fbi in mar-a-lago included a foreign government's nuclear capabilities and in less than 24 hours, steve bannon is set to turn himself in to face state charges in a criminal case. we'll break down what we are learning next. meanwhile, in uvalde, five officers from the state's top law enforcement agency are now under investigation for their response to the massacre at robb elementary. in ukraine, what officials are considering as fears of a major disaster at europe's largest nuclear power plant grow. out west, california's power grid is being pushed to the brink as residents grapple with
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the historic heat wave and an obama biden reunion, why the former president and first lady are returning to the white house this afternoon. we begin with new developments in the investigations into donald trump and his allies. people familiar with the matter tell "the washington post" the documents seized by the fbi during a search of trump's mar-a-lago estate last month included information about a foreign government's nuclear capabilities. nbc news has not independently confirmed this reporting. the justice department declined to comment. as the post wrote in its piece, quote, some of the seized documents detail top secret u.s. operations so closely guarded that many senior national security officials are kept in the dark about them. and that quote, documents about such highly classified
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operations require special clearances on a need to know basis, not just top secret clearance but a trump spokesperson tweeted "the washington post" continues to serve as the propaganda arm of the biden administration instead of operating openly and honestly, they collude never ending leaks and lies at the expense of the integrity of the fbi and doj. "the washington post" also reporting today former trump chief strategists steve bannon is set to face state charges in new york that a 2020 federal case he was accused of a private effort to build aon responded i to nbc news saying the southern district of new york did the same thing in august of 2020 and try to take me out of the election. it didn't work then. it certainly won't work now. this is nothing more than a partisan political weaponized of the criminal justice system. with us now to talk about all of
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this, nbc news chief white house correspondent kristen welker, boston globe columnist and co-host of the sisters in law podcast and washington post criminal investigations reporter jackelyn. kimberly and jackelyn are msnbc contributors. how big of a deal is it the former president appears to have information in his home about another country's nuclear capabilities? >> well, this is significant according to intelligence officials, jose, because it under scores just how sensitive this material is that we are talking about and the fact that this really may have posed a significant threat to national security, according to intelligence officials. it is one more data point according to the washington post as you say, one of the documents pertaining to the nuclear capabilities of a foreign country. now, take a step back. how many countries are we talking about that actually have nuclear capabilities? the list is quite small, about nine countries in addition to the u.s. the u.k., the list would include
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israel, as well as north korea and china. so the problems are twofold. on the one hand, jose, if this information relates to a foreign adversary, this could potentially compromise sources and methods of this getting information. that means compromising potentially lives of people that got that information. if we're talking about an ally, that could strain relations between the u.s. and that ally and potentially raise concerns about the united states ability to protect that level of sensitive information. again, this is one more data point as we continue to track the fallout from that fbi search of mar-a-lago and comes as we are waiting to see whether the justice department will appeal that ruling to a point of so-called special master, a third party to review the documents that were seized at mar-a-lago, jose? >> we don't know how sensitive that information is. this could be a super highly classified information about nuclear power or something a lot less secret and a lot less
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sensitive. >> that's right. we don't know specifically what the classification was but here is what we do know based on the reporting that has come out of the search, that highly sensitive material was mixed in with regular documents at mar-a-lago and according to the washington post, nbc news hasn't been able to confirm but sme fbi agents were saying wait a minute, we don't have access to view this material. that's how sensitive it is. we're talking about over11,000 government documents, hundreds of those documents containing that highly sensitive classified material, jose. >> it's just massive the amount of documents that they took out of mar-a-lago. kimberly, the justice department is norm early tight lipped about investigations but we seen a lot of information come out about this particular case. what's the potential motive behind revealing this information? >> well, i think that there is
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an interest to really state how compelling this case is and how serious it is. you are correct that generally the fbi and the justice department in general keeps its investigations very close to the vest but we've seen not just in news reports but also in the filings that we've seen in this case give much more information than we're used to and i think it's just because the stakes are as high as kristen was laying out. this is involving very, very sensitive documents, things that are a matter of national security and can put individuals and national security in jeopardy. that is really important here. i think that's one thing the justice department realizes in balancing that interest. >> yeah, jackie, how could these leaks potentially impact the investigation? >> i'm not sure it would really impact the investigation. that is a talking point we have
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time and time again from trump's legal team but if anything, some of these leaks are actually helpful in combatting some of the misinformation his legal team is putting out about the nature of this entire investigation. trump's legal team continues to maintain that this is about the presidential records act and that this is the doj politicizing the process and using the pra as a political weapon but the deeper we get into this investigation and the more that we learn bit by bit breaking news by breaking news, we learn that these documents were extreme licensetive, goes far beyond the presidential records act and that they could potentially compromise important relationships with our allies or countries that we work with around the world and also our national security. again, as everyone has said, i just want to reiterate, these
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are documents that are related to foreign government's nuclear defense readiness that have been found. these are documents that a very small group of people have access to and yes, the volume of documents that have been seized by the fbi from mar-a-lago during the various visits and recoveries that they've made is enormous in volume but if a small paragraph or page or a packet of classified information is compromised, that could have really dramatic implications for national security that could cost the united states billions in dollars of investments in resources or potential defense programs and again, cost some serious relationships. >> kimberly, the justice department is still weighing whether to appeal a federal judge's ruling allowing an independent special master to review the items in the mar-a-lago search. bill barr even criticized that
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decision. here is what he said to fox news yesterday. >> the opinion i think was wrong and i think the government should appeal it. it's deeply flawed in a number of ways. i don't think the appointment of a special master is going to hold up, but even if it does, i don't see it fundamentally changing the trajectory. >> do we have a feel the doj will appeal this or not? they have until friday, right? >> yeah, you know, i think it is -- i'm certain that they are weighing the pros and cons on both sides on one hand i agree that this decision seems to be very poorly reasoned, especially as to the executive privilege claim, the judge hasn't said that there is executive privilege but just that trump has the right to argue that but this is a case involving the doj, which is within the executive branch. this is involving classified documents that privilege would not apply to if they happened. that would not be a defense here. i agree with former attorney
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general barr on that point but the problem is because it is so poorly reasoned, if you appeal it, it could make bad law. if the appellate courts and supreme court sides there is some sort of executive privilege here, there is also the interest of time. the doj wants to move quickly on this. of course, the revelation what kind of documents we're talking about only makes that more urgent and although, the office of the director of national intelligence is still moving forward with their investigation, that hasn't been stopped by this process, the doj wants to get moving they may think letting the special master be appointed and moving forward is the best way to go. >> and meanwhile, jackie, what more have you learned about these potential new charges against bannon? >> yeah, jose, what we learned that he's expected to go to the state prosecutor on thursday, that's tomorrow. my colleagues were told that the charges and the prosecution are
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likely to mirror aspects of the federal case in which bannon was pardoned two years ago and to remind people in the indo i want that's where prosecutors allege bannon and others defrauded people by convincing them to contribute to a $25 million fundraising effort called we build the wall taking funds from donors that would support construction of a barrier along the u.s. border, which those funds did not actually go to that, but of course, we're going to probably see all this play out in realtime tomorrow. >> jackie, kristen welker, kimberly atkins, thank you-all for being with us this morning. still ahead, why the obamas are headed back to the white house just hours from now. but first, new developments in the uvalde investigation. why the texas inspector general is investigating five public safety officers in the wake of the uvalde school shooting. you're watching "jose diaz
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15 past the hour. today was supposed to be the first day of school for students in seattle but classes are being delayed because of a teacher strike. teachers union authorized the strike yesterday morning and say they want more support for students including for special education and multi lingual students and want reasonable workloads and quote respectful pay from the seattle public school district. the district is disappointed in the strike authorization. negotiations are ongoing. meanwhile in uvalde, texas the reporting of the delayed response to the massacre at robb elementary school. five officials with the texas department of public safety are under investigation for how they responded to the mass shooting. two of those five officers have been suspended without pay. on the 24th of may, 376 law
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enforcement officers responded to an active shooter. that included 91 officers from the same agency. those five officers belonged to. yet, it took 77 minutes for officers to enter the classroom and take down the gunman. nbc's antonia hilton is following this story closely from uvalde. what do we know about these five officers and what about the other ones? >> reporter: well, good morning, jose. what we know right now is that these five officers are under investigation from the office of the inspector general on the heels of an internal review of the agency. as you mentioned, two suspended with pay, as well. what we expect to see happen is going to be the inspector general taking a look at essentially action or inaction taken the day of the massacre here at robb elementary. they're going to be looking for signs of a perhaps violated
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policy of the agency or did something in opposition to the training that they had received. essentially, looking for signs these officers should have known better. as you mentioned, 77 minutes going by and these officers as part of this state agency majorly, overwhelmed, out numbered the amount of uvalde based law enforcement officials on the scene that day. so for a long time there have been questions about why they didn't take over, why they didn't take the lead once they were on the scene here and, you know, it has been overshadowed a bit by what happened with former chief of police pete arredondo and now the attention seems to be shifting to the texas department of safety. we are going to be looking do they recommend disciplinary action and send the findings to the district attorney. if they do not, the director of dps has the right to take internal action of his own, jose. >> i'm wondering, what was it like for people there to receive the news on the same day students went back to school?
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>> reporter: well, i was outside of flores elementary here in uvald yesterday and people were receiving this news at the end of the school day and really just starting to process it initially. what i can tell you is this is part of the accountability that parents and local leaders have been asking for and they feel like dps is among the agencies that have not been transparent enough, have not been frank enough, haven't released enough documents. for example, people pushed them to release their sort of a form that explains their policies so they could more easily compare these are the policies, these are the expectations those officers operated under but they have not released that information. everyone from local people that live here to senator roland gutierrez are demanding more and placing the blame more on dps's feet. >> thank you so much.
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i'm still haunted by that. 376 heavily armed protected with shields with armor, 376 officers and 77 minutes. >> reporter: it's hard to understand. >> it is indeed. thanks. up next, the race to protect democracy. how critical down ballot races in at least half a dozen states could affect future elections. you're watching "jose diaz balart reports." balart reports." as someone living with type 2 diabetes, i want to keep it real and talk about some risks. with type 2 diabetes you have up to 4 times greater risk of stroke, heart attack, or death. even at your a1c goal, you're still at risk ...which if ignored could bring you here... ...may put you in one of those... ...or even worse. too much? that's the point. get real about your risks and do something about it.
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23 past the hour. this afternoon former president and first lady barack and michelle obama will return to the house white together for the first time in five years for the unveiling of their official white house portraits. it comes after obama's predecessor declined to host the ceremony which had become a white house tradition. joining us now is carol lee. what can we expect today. >> reporter: jose, we're going to see all four of these individuals, the former president, the current president, the former first lady and current first lady all going to speak publicly. it's an event where the official white house portraits of former
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president obama and former first lady michelle obama will be unveiled for the first time. these are those official portraits that hang in the white house along with their predecessors and so this is something that has been in the works for really quite some time, about five years these portraits have been in the works and typically, these are events where they're bipartisan, where republicans president host democratic presidents, democratic presidents host republican presidents for this unveiling and this has, as you noted, been delayed for some time because the obamas had no interest in having former president trump host them for their portrait unveiling, and former president trump had no interest in hosting the obamas for their portrait unveiling to have this ceremony, which is usually very light, sell bra -- celebration. this is the first time former first lady michelle obama will be returning to the white house
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since january 20th of 2017, the day of president trump's inauguration and so, we'll see a very light celebration and there will be, we've already seen some of the former obama staffers here outside of the white house getting covid tested, likely to see the former chief of staff rob emanuel, david axelrod, people like those, very familiar faces and very familiar faces for a number of individuals serving in the current biden white house. one of the things we're told is that the president, former president obama in his remarks is happening two months before the midterm elections, the obama to give as we're told the current president biden a boost in his remarks, jose. >> i'll tell you, one of the coolest things being at the white house when you get a chance to go see it, everything is to see it.
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first ladies, spectacular to see. thanks for being with us. as we keep a close eye on the midterms, attention is turning to some of the down ballot races, critical to shaping future elections. an analysis found more money than ever before is pouring into this year's battles for secretary of state. the official who oversees the elections. in arizona alone, primary candidates raised nearly four times the amount they did in 2018. with us now for more on this is vaughn hill yard in phoenix. >> reporter: we're talking about the secretary of state and millions of dollars and the public's attention because of the 2020 election. operate the state's elections
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and being responsible for one of the ones that certify the state i elections and secretary of state did certify joe biden's election but you look who is running for the 2022 secretary of state positions you see a slew of republicans across five states who are election deniers in the key states, arizona, minnesota, michigan, new mexico but also in pennsylvania. doug mastriano, if he wins he'd appoint his own secretary of state and i want to bring in the democrat running here to hold that position because he's taking on mark who called for the decertification of the 2020 election. adrian is a democrat. you were the former maricopa county recorder here. perhaps, you've always found election operations sexy but for a lot of people, you're the new
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cool kid on the block here. for you and your campaign, though, to what extent are you articulating the threat of democracy on the forefront of your campaign? >> the threat to democracy couldn't be worse now. we're talking about folks that don't want democracy to run in a normal way and don't want elections to operate in a predictable regular fashion like a heart beat. it's bad for business, bad for law. it's the golden threat that runs through society. pull that thread out and all of society will will make sure we don't have wild eyed extremists running elections and potentially causing chaos. >> reporter: we're seeing millions of dollars being spent. your race, other races as well that are down ballot races and maybe haven't gotten the attention on the ground. what are you hearing from folks? >> folks want to run the
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elections, winners win, losers lose and try next time if you don't win. that's how it's supposed to work but the extreism we're seeing in candidates we're talking about, including the one i'm running against are backed up by election deniers pumping a lot of money into the races. obviously, we could use as much help as possible but we don't just need help for the campaign. we need help to have stability in the government so that everybody else around can do the business of america, which is business. >> reporter: adrian, thanks for your time. >> thanks. >> reporter: jose, here in arizona the governor, secretary of state and attorney general, each individual is required to certify the state's election results. three republicans running for the three positions have each called for the decertification of joe biden's 2020 win that put a lot of question marks about how they would operate come 2024 in a fair election. jose? >> vaughn thank you so much. here to continue the conversation is carlos an msnbc
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political analyst. good to see you. let's talk about arizona as maybe just kind of a point in what our number of points and a number of down ballot races in different states. how are these candidates having an impact not only on the republican party but on american democracy? >> jose, this is very dangerous. what we're seeing is for the first time at least in a long time the politicalization of these positions. i mean, these are the referees in a game. these are the referees in a football game. football season is about to start. these are the people throwing the yellow flag when someone breaks the rules. they're not trying to help either team. they're trying to keep the game fair and for the first time, we're hearing candidates for these races so no, i'm actually going to bend the rules for the team that i prefer and who loses? i think everyone loses because some republicans and in this case might say well, we want to elect that guy because he's going to help our candidates but what happens when a democrat
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wins? is it okay for the democrat to help his or her candidates? so it's dangerous. it's a shame and for families like ours who came to this country seeking freedom, democracy, rule of law, i think it's extremely discouraging because this is in someways starting to look like what politics looks like in other parts of the world, what these referees actually are trying to influence the game. >> the candidates talked about that thread that is such an important thread in any democracy but specifically, in this democracy. carlos, this impact is definitely having a lot of impact on the november races. you know, traditionally, the party in power in midterms loses. it seems as though in the house of representatives, there was movement towards that in the house of representatives but the senate seems to be clear and
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closer. what impact is this having on november? >> yeah, this is actually hurting republicans because even though a lot of the republican base supports these kinds of candidates, independent voters are turned off by this. they don't want to hear about the 2020 election. they don't want to hear that it was stolen because they don't believe that. so what is happening -- >> because it wasn't. >> that's right. what is happening is republicans who need to win back suburban voters, those voters who were giving the party a hard look a few months ago if we look back at the polling are being turned off as donald trump comes back to the forefront as we keep talking about the 2020 election as some of these candidates express their willingness to be unfair in the administration of elections. a lot of these swing voters are starting to say well, you know, we're not happy with inflation, we're frustrated with the economy but some of these republicans, what they're serving up we just can't accept. so this is one of the reasons that democrats are in a far
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better position today than they were just a few months ago. >> that would include the massive impact of the roe v. wade decision by the supreme court. >> yeah, i think there is three big factors that have boosted democrats. roe versus wade energized the base because that base was depressed. the biden administration and congressional democrats were able to put together a string of legislative victories and donald trump and all of this controversy about the 2020 election coming back to the forefront, that try if he can to -- trifecta helped democrats. >> a recent nbc news poll asked people what the most important issue facing the country is and while threats to emocracy was at the top of the list, immigration and the situation at the border was fourth on the list. immigration and the humanitarian crisis that is going on on our
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borders seems to have been minimized in the national discourse. >> well, that's right and by the way, jose, it has been an issue since the beginning of the biden administration that has hurt democrats. a lot of americans are frustrated with the situation at the border. most americans support a legal orderly immigration system and that's not what we have right now. but because all of these other issues have risen in importance, roe v. wade, abortion, the threats to democracy, democrats putting together some legislative victories, it's shifted attention and the media only had limited time so immigration hasn't gotten as much coverage. you see republicans on the campaign trail trying to bring that issue back. republicans want to talk about economy, inflation, immigration. but those issues have been reduced in their prominence because of all these other issues we discussed. >> former congressman, always a pleasure to see you. thank you for being with us this
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the longer he controls that plant, the more he holds cards over the ukrainians and ukrainian's western allies. it's obviously a way to say to the west, don't toy with me too much here because look what i can do to create great havoc, not just in ukraine but across the contincontinent. we saw that with other plants even outside the border of this particular war. >> this morning putin said he's not lost anything as a result of this invasion into ukraine. has it not cost him anything? >> well, he might not have lost anything but russia certainly has. they lost an estimated 80,000 wounded or killed soldiers. they've obviously lost, you know, an enormous progress that he made in 30 years since the end of the cold war in terms of
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economic integration and becoming part of the world, they have become isolated at least from the west. they have lost you know, any moral high ground he may have tried to hold in terms of international relations by criticizing other countries for aggressive behavior. obviously, in his case he is now the aggressor in everybody 's estimation. he hoped to conquer the entire country. he lost a great deal in fact, i think. >> peter, as far as holding on to power in russia, how do you see him? is he able to maintain this series of losses because there is a loss every day and still maintain power? >> he has shown he's more
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resilient in holding power than most of the us in the west expect. casualties that are being inflicted on russians have not undermined public support for him or this war sufficient to cause him great trouble. that doesn't mean that he's not worried about it. that's one reason why for instance he's not instituted a draft. he doesn't want to alarm the public any further than he needs to. he doesn't want them to talk about ukraine. my colleague valerie hopkins returned to moscow in the last few days and reports in our paper this morning about how moscow is going on with life as normal, musical festivals and shopping and so forth part of putin's strategy to convince they shouldn't be worried about the war in ukraine but that could eventually erode. the more body bags that come home and funerals held for young boys and soldiers who died in a needless war, the more you can see support potentially eroding from him and that's what he worries about. >> peter, next week putin is meeting with xi.
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he's purchasing weapons from north korea. he's already obtained, you know, armed drones from iran. he's making a push in latin america. he's selling gas in europe. he still has a network he can depend on of allies who may not be, you know, the most popular but he certainly has a network of allies. >> well, i think that's his way of showing he's not isolated and yes, he's cut off from western financial institutions, western economic interests, western companies and investment but there are other places for him to go, places we wouldn't normally think of as sources of finance or weaponry but north korea, iran, china as you point out, he'll meet with xi jinping and them saying i'm not as fact as isolated as you want me to be and as long as china and india and countries continue to interact with him, he's going to be encouraged to continue this
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war in ukraine. >> yeah, and i mean, you know, here in latin america, you know, in our part of the woods, you know, he's got allies in venezuela, he's got allies in nicaragua and cuba. peter baker, i thank you so much for being with us. always a pleasure to speak with you. >> thank you. still ahead, why there could be more disruptions at schools this winter due to covid. you're watching "jose diaz balart reports." bal balart reports." with 20 grams of protein for muscle health. versus 16 grams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients for immune support. boost® high protein. we lost about everything trying to pay for prescriptions. we spent our whole pension but couldn't keep up. so my husband just stopped taking his medicine. and then he had a stroke. i can't get back what i lost, but thanks to aarp,
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is there a large demand for them? >> reporter: well, not so far but it's early. this is the first week that washington d.c. is offering, this is the first week any city around the country is offering. the white house yesterday pointing to positive things about this booster. it will protect, they say, it will protect against ba.4 and 5, the omicron variant. that's what doctors are hoping. this is the third year now i stood outside hospitals in the fall as kids head back to school but the first time i heard positive news from doctors who talked about the vaccines that were not available three years ago, a booster designed to protect against variants and doctors hoping flu season will provide a key to vaccinating children. listen to what one doctor earlier today. >> a great opportunity to increase flu vaccines and covid by offering them at the same time, and we're encouraging physicians and pharmacists around the country to give both
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at the same time if possible. >> reporter: the other mitigation efforts remain boring and the same, social distancing and masks. there are not many mask main mandates around schools in the country but it's always something you can fall back on doctors say. >> doctor, vaccination rates for children under 12 remain really low. how do you convince people, doctor, to now get a yearly vaccine shot for covid? >> i'm going to tell you in all transparency, it's going to be very difficult. it's going to be very difficult because parents are concerned that there has not been too much transparency as far as the data on these vaccines. ba.4 and 5 are relatively benign illnesses. but the other thing that's coming around, and i'm sure you heard about it, is that it's been indicated in the near future they're not going to pay for the vaccine.
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so how can you convince now somebody vaccinate your kid with a vaccine we haven't given you all the info and number two, you are going to have to pay for it. so that's going to be a matter of the health care providers talking to the families. and balancing, you know, do your kid really need the vaccine, does he have any risk factors to get him in trouble, is this going to protect him? this is what conversations that doctors have having. we have to be clear with our patients, with the parents of these kids. tell them the advantages and disadvantages of getting a vaccine and let them make an informed choice. >> i think messaging has been such a poor -- you know, it's been -- messaging coming out just in general on these things has been so poor from day one. doctor, you serve communities every single day in what you do,
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in your private practice as well as in the hospital. what are you seeing as far as the level of people that are getting covid and the severity of it? >> so what i'm seeing is, first of all, the number of patients coming to the hospital with covid are minimal. remember at some point in time when you interview me i had like 88 patients in the hospital with covid. if i get one a week, it's too much. i'm not seeing the severity we were seeing before. i am seeing patients in my outpatient practice. a lot of patients come to me and most do quite well, relatively easy to treat without any problem. with regard to vaccinations, however, i am seeing more people reluctant to get the vaccine, saying look, people are getting covid despite the fact we have two, three boosters.
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>> it's back to messaging and the importance of information. doctor, cal, thank you both for being with us this morning appreciate it. later today, cdc director, rochelle walensky, joins chris jansing to discuss the boosters. 1:00 p.m. eastern, 10:00 a.m. pacific, right here on msnbc. turns out west where millions of people are facing one of the worst heat waves in california history. it's bringing the power grid to the brink. meanwhile, hurricane kay off the western coast of mexico is now a category 2 storm. joining us now, meteorologist michelle grossman. good morning, when can californians expect relief and what can we expect from the hurricane? >> good morning. we can expect some relief come this weekend. but we're going to see temperatures soaring once again into the triple digits we've broken so many records and we'll
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continue to do that over the coming days. 50 million americans under a heat alert, that includes sacramento, los angeles, san diego, phoenix and las vegas. looking at temperatures well into the 100s today. 100 degrees in medford. these day time highs are 10, 20, 30 degrees above average for this time of year. salt lake city today 22 degrees above what is typical for this time of year, 105. 109 in sacramento. you were at 116 yesterday. you'll be warmer again tomorrow. looking at tomorrow, thursday, friday we see the brutal temperatures continuing sacramento, 111 tomorrow, 109 on friday. and then some gradual relief, still warm in sacramento, near 100 degrees but not as dangerous. fresno, 99 on saturday. las vegas into the low 90s. this heat does continue and will continue to break records. we're also concerned about fire danger out west. we have the combination of gusty winds, low humidity and also
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lightning. dry thunderstorms. that's when the rain evaporates and the lightning hits the ground so we're concerned. we have wildfires oregon, idaho into northern california that's a big story. and the late egs okay, looking at a category 2 storm, looking at 250 miles southwest. it's going to move to the north but curve northwest as it does. still a category 2 storm by thursday. by friday category 1 storm. and looking at rain and gusty winds into portions of los angeles and san diego. 1 to 2 inches but could see 5 inches in the mountains. >> michelle grossman, i thank you so much. good seeing you. that wraps up the hour for me. thank you for the privilege of your time. lindsey riser picks up with more news after a quick break. cks upe news after a quick break
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