we will stay on the case as it were, and i want to thank you for spending time with us here on "the beat" ari melber. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. ♪♪ >> tonight on "the reidout" -- >> i saw this meme that was very funny on instagram i believe it was and it says amazing at first and at first it was the codes to the nuclear weapons, now it's invisible classified documents. >> i have not specifically spoken to the president about what nuclear materials may or may not have been in there. i do not believe there were any in there. >> wouldn't you know. some lawyers have been denying and joking about the possibility of nuclear secrets being stashed at trump's home. now new reporting indicating it's no joke. but republicans are still defending him. also tonight, the buddy act returns to the white house as

president biden welcomes barack and michelle obama back for the unveiling of their official white house portraits. >> i want to thank sharon sprung for capturing everything i love about michele, her grace, her intelligence and the fact that she's fine. >> we miss them. we begin tonight with steve bannon, the former white house chief strategist who is back in the news, usually for two reasons such as attempting to dismantle the west or as in this case trouble with the law. two years ago bannon was dragged off a billionaire's luxury yacht in handcuffs charged with defrauding donors as part of a fund-raising scam purportedly aimed at funding trump's border wall that mexico was supposed to pay for. now bon none lined his pockets

$1 million in waldo nations. after trump pardoned bannon for milking his own supporters the manhattan's district attorney office opened its own investigation and that's because presidential pardons, well, they only apply to federal charges and cannot prohibit state prosecutions. bannon is now traveling to new york city to prepare to surrender in the morning to face charges in a new indictment that remains sealed. the precise details of the state case run nope, but sources told "the washington post" that the prosecution will likely mirror the federal case. bannon was once known as the man behind trump, a disrupter, hell bent on ensuring that white nationalism had a seat in the oval office. this is trump's guy, now likely to join the club of trump allies who have served time for trump. for a group obsessed with locking her up, trump's inner circle knows a thing or two

about being behind bars or behind walls. trump's people, well, they can go to jail, forced to face justice, so why not him? the bannon case proves this point. i mean, it will be handled in new york state supreme court by a manhattan district attorney alvin bragg, the same alvin bragg who declined to file criminal charges against trump leading two senior prosecutors to resign meaning the prosecutor that's taking down bannon is the same prosecutor who essentially let trump off the hook after all these years, teflon don still stands, even as he reportedly stashed a foreign government's nuclear secrets at his mar-a-lago club. that's surreal, bonkers, terrifying sentence i just said. it's actually a real thing happening in real life. "the washington post" reported that a document the fbi seized at trump's crib designed -- described a foreign government's

military defenses, including its nuclear capabilities. some of the seized documents detailed top secret u.s. operations so closely guard that had many senior national security officials are kept in the dark about them. the recklessness is astonishing, and yet trump claims it's all a hoax. his attorney each mocked the allegation, the same day that the news came out. trump's lit any of excuses seems almost perverse but he declassified ultra secret secrets on that he just waved a magic wand. the documents do not even belong to the united states government, sounds like quite the child, it's not theirs. it's mine, mine, mine, mine-mile-per-hour. trump has always been a security

to the security safety of the united states, a disaster frankly, doing what no one else could get away, not even his friends. teflon don, who will accountability actually stick to him? joining me now michael cohebb, trump's former personal attorney and the host of the mea culpa podcast, a former cia analyst and a former federal prosecutor. paul, i'm going to start with you. i'm sorry, but this was the subject of our 11:00 call on this show. we talk it out for an hour and this was -- this was my thing that i could not get away from. how in the hell is donald trump so impervious to justice? this guy has not paid taxes his whole adult life when he worked for the same company that i do when he was on the "apprentice." got away with tax fraud, insurance fraud, enriching himself off the presidency and

now stealing government documents including nuclear secrets. he's untouchable. why? >> in this case because of judge cannon. she admitted that she's treating this case differently because it involves a former president. as you know in our criminal legal system no one is supposed to be above the law so when the judge starts giving trump special consideration she basically has to make up a whole new procedure just for former presidents and that's pretty much what she d.first the judge blesses donald trump with a special master to review documents that under the law don't even belong to him and then the judge orders the doj to stop parts of its criminal investigation that almost certainly exceeds his authority. it's just not a good look for the appearance of justice when a judge appointed by donald trump extends to donald trump benefits that no other subject of a

search warrant would get and that will almost certainly substantially delay the criminal investigation. >> and no one will ever get. >> let me play a witness in the defense of what i just said. his name is donald j. trump. this is what donald j. trump said about the handling of classified documents and how that should be dealt with. >> we can't have someone in the oval office who doesn't understand the meaning of the word confidential or classified. this was not just extreme carelessness with classified material, which is still totally disqualifying. this is calculated, deliberate, promeditated misconduct followed by a cover-up. >> mark, these comments were about hillary clinton. he said the same about james comey. he said the same about john bolton. from a national security professional standpoint, from your standpoint, how is it

possible that a man can steal national security secrets of the united states and another ally or enemy, take them home and not have the any consequences whatsoever. >> i think we have to leave it to the fbi and that's why the appointment of a special master is a little troubling. this is going to delay the fbi case. this is not like wine. does not age well. bad news does not get better over time but "the washington post" reporting was interesting. first and foremost you have information potentially about either an adversely or allies' nuclear programs and you have information there about a special access program which is really kind of the crown jewel of the united states government but here's why it's really important. i think it really reinforces what the department of justice and the fbi did which was to search mar-a-lago and that's real, really significant when you have, you know, large majorities of the american

public still questioning this. i think we can put to bed the notion that this is a storage problem and we really have to let the fbi do its work. bill barr, the former attorney general, came out over the weekend really in favor of this and he was a cia attorney, an attorney in the cia and knows about classified information. i think donald trump is in trouble and we really need the fbi to jump in and cop duct the investigation in a timely matter. >> is he really in trouble? michael cohen, that's why i wanted to talk to you. he's in trouble. his dad didn't pay taxes, he doesn't pay taxes. he defrauds the insurance companies of new york, defrauds the taxpayers, defrauds the irs. he seems to be a crime mushing. no one will stop him. no one will stop him. i believe he was right. he could shoot someone on fifth avenue in the middle of the street no one would touch him.

he's unbloody touchable. please explain. you know the guy, how? >> i'm not so sure i wouldn't agree with that statement. yes, he's gotten away with so much already from obstruction of justice, witness tampering, tax fraud, wire fraud, bank fraud, misrepresentations. he's gotten away with a litany of things and however, and this makes me scratch my head. the taking of classified documents, i mean, nuclear top secret documents should no longer be a republican versus a democratic issue, and i listened to all of the pundits on television whether, you know, it's this station, cnn, fox, listen to them all. this is an american issue, and i don't understand what we're doing. it's not a question of whether the law is being applied equally to all. it is not. for god's sake. the doj, they are tip toeing around donald as if he was the king, right, the supreme leader or a monarch and, again, he's

not, so like when you said before it's the adage that one is above the law holds true then donald should have been indicted already and facing consequences, but i'll till what i do think is going to happen. i do think there's going to be an indictment and relatively soon. i believe there will also be congressional hearings with donald in the hot seat where, you know, either he'll come in willingly which i don't think he will or via subpoena, i mean, the real questions that they have to be asking right now is, you know, where are the document that were in the empty top secret files that were found at mar-a-lago? mean, that's really the big question, and who did donald give them to or show them to because like you also said and i've been saying it since day number one, joy. donald is a clear and present darker for the national security and safety of this country, and if this doesn't prove it i'm not

sure anything will. so i agree with you but i don't agree with you that he won't be held accountable for this. this is too big at this point in time. >> let me ask you a question, michael. i don't know him. never personally met him and you've dealt with him for a very long time. i'm asking to you speculate and i'm acknowledging that i'm asking you to do that. why would he want to have the nuclear secrets of some other country out there, our enemy? why would he want to have classified information? why would he take the contents of classified folders out and put them god knows where? why do you think he wanted this stuff? >> so this is all about power for donald trump. this is all about him still remaining relevant and exerting the power over the united states as extortion in the event you indict me or members of my family, if you indict me or try to incars rate, i have nuclear

secrets that i have instructed some of my followers to turn over to our adversaries. that's what i believe. it's all about him main taping power but not -- not just this country but foreign countries as well. the dangerous part that we're all doing right now is creating these hypotheticals? is the nuclear secrets israel and maybe he's dwich them to mohammed bin salman and that's why they gave jarred kushner $2.5 billion. that's why we have the presidential records act. that's why we have laws so that we're not supposed to come up with these hypotheticals. we're supposed to know that the documents are in the possession who are supposed to have them, not somewhere in his office at emlag, o. chance midst that were there in

2019 with thumb drives. it's not supposed to be happening. >> yeah. >> and everything donald is doing designed to disrupt. >> mark, you -- you were in this business. i'm not asking to you speculate about donald trump personally. you don't know him either. if this same situation was happening and let's just say it was, what would be the biggest thing you would be most concerned with an individual having these documents? >> that's a good question. there's a double standard, an appearance one. for a regular national security official if you take these document home even inadvertently you're in huge trouble. why did he have them number one and what is he going to do with them? that's really important to --.

i had some russian and a few mementos from my time overseas and if you're to believe the reporting, they were really crowned jewel type of information than would land me or anybody else in the national security establishment, not only would we be fired but we'd go to jail for this. it's incredibly serious and that's why in my tribe most of us who really work in national security for many years, we really need to see this through. >> very quickly before we go paul butler. reality winner wanted to help, she was concerned about russia's interference in the last election so she made some documents to the intercept. she got locked up, okay? she spent at least i think five years for that and she was trying to help us, and donald trump is still free as a bird.

if,judge -- wouldn't it make sense to search bed minister and every bloody property that this man owns to see if there's more and donald trump's judge and ally has obviously said stop the investigation? >> they can. she said they can't use the information that alsoey recovers. certainly they can continuings -- these documents were found in a residence and even a storage closet. that's shocking and scare deand also incriminating. the doj doesn't usually prosecute cases about the retention of class night documents unless's a deliberate mishandling or evidence of damage to the united states or evidence of obstruction of justice. all of those factors should be a

great concern to the former president >> i think the most important thing that was said here and i think in this panel is that this is not a partisan issue. this is not an issue about donald trump being a republican. who bloody cares. this is an issue of our national security and every single person watching this showers, watching any network should be concerned about it, not because it's not about donald trump. it's about our national security and he ought to have at least give a damn about that if he's an american that cares about this country? thank you all. up next on treat out, as the revolutions of trump's documents get worse and worse and worse, tiny handful of republicans refuse to call him out. and just like old times. talk about a turn, the bide epps and observe mads together again at the white house. "the reidout" continues after this. hite house "the reido" utcontinues after this

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in the days after donald trump announced that the fbi had searched his mar-a-lago home, the "new york times" reported that some senior republicans had been warned by trump allies not to continue to be aggressive and criticizing the justice department and the fbi over the matter because it is possible that more damaging information related to the search will become public. that was excellent advice for most trump allies, especially as we continue to learn more, not only about how many classified documents were found but also how highly classified they were, like perhaps pertaining to the

nuclear capabilities of a foreign country. unfortunately, that advice was either not shared were the rest of the party or wholly ignored because by and large the party under trump that lost control of the senate and the white house and the house is now standing behind him. it's not like they are staying loyal to their dear leader. they are actually tripping all over themselves trying to find any excuse to downplay trump's actions which sure do seem critical. while blaming the doj, the fbi and the biden administration and maybe god and the tooth fairy next. this morning senator marco rubio, ranking member of the senate intelligence committee works over the weekend called the investigation a document storage issue is now providing more cover for papa trump with further attacks on the doj. >> so if it was really that sort of an urgent problem, why didn't they immediately demand their return or come to the gang of eight or the intelligence committee heads saying we've got a major problem on our hands.

and instead we get a constant leak and that only tells it you this is being politicized. >> joining me now is a former cia office running for congress against guess who, elise stefanik in new york's 21st congressional district. i'm sorry, i didn't mean to laugh but i do find much of what marco rubio said humorous. would you like to answer his question? he thinks it's no biggie and proved to be no biggie because no one went to him in his committee? >> hi, joy, thank you for having me. listen, i spent nearly 15 years at the cia serving our country and take issue with any politician who would put their career and re-election prospects ahead of the security of our country and chief among them is elise stefanik, the gop house messaging chief and she's now setting the tone for the mid-term election as we go into

and reveal more of these details about this investigation. her response was to put a target on the back of law enforcement, her response to in a in the last week or so was to say that this investigation was a hoax. listen, i spent nearly 15 years at the cia, and when you walk into cia headquarters you'll find 139 stars on the wall of cia officers who died in the line of duty, protecting and collecting our nation's secrets, the same kinds of secrets. i would like folks like elise stefanik or marco rubio to look those family members to tell them that their sacrifice in vain and to tell them that the threat to national security was a hoax. i know you had my good friend mark on and if anyone walked out of classified information with one piece of information at that level he would have been behind bars so the american people are growing sick and tired of there being a separate set of rules for rich and powerful and also sick and tired of politicians who are more interested in protecting the rich and powerful

than they are in protecting us. >> just to be very colleagues, i want to read the whole quote. this is what owe lease stefanik, to your point said last week with trump's mishandling of classified documents. this is as you said russia hoax 2.0 with the media accomplice and the late leak justification that started off as nuclear codes has morphed into whatever joe biden's corrupt allies think the media will transdescribe as the loyal stenographers they are. the fact of the matter is the biden white house is using the department of justice as the political arms of joe biden's campaign, yadda, yadda, yadda. i have to ask you this. as somebody who -- you're running for office now but were you in the cia, a non-partisan. am i accurate that the cia does not take a partisan side, right? >> correct. all of our national security professionals and military don't take sides. which swear an oath to the constitution. >> have you ever in your life in your 15 years heard of a political actor on the

republican or democratic side blog off the idea of national security secrets being stolen from the united states. >> no, and this is a serious concern that everyone should have right now. when we look at folks like elise stefanik who is willing to sell out our own country to advance their career. we know stefanik to be a sellout and this is something that we see in our district in the 21st congressional district where i'm running against her. she's sold out veterans by voting against veterans and voted against women by guaranteeing not to vote against reproductive rights. time and time again we see moekts like elise stefanik who wants to put -- it seems to meal that donald trump had a word for stefanik and that's the swamp.

>> let me ask you this. talk to me about what the risks would be about this person being out there. talked about it the other day. we had a rash of deaths of our agents around the world that the cia had to cop to, they lost a lot of agent, people who put their lives on the line for us and they died and it was during the time, i'm not saying it was related to it, but it sure was during the time that trump had cut difficult our secrets. what is the worst case scenario for someone in this field? it is dangerous. what are the risks that people take when they, for instance, decide to spy on our behalf? >> yeah. well, we certainly have put individuals in harm's way. they put themselves in harm's way in order to provide us with information to protect u.s. national security, to advance our national security interests, and those lives may currently be at risk because we did not in this unstance keep that classified information contained in a safe space. there are reasons why there are requirements around all of this.

there are reasons why we keep them in safe spaces. we don't just allow hem to hang out in a florida resort open in some sort of, you know, basement storage unit or worse, but in addition to the lives that may be at risk, we have billions of dollars of taxpayer-funded collection systems that may be at risk. certainly u.s. standing in the world with our allies or our ensmis at misk so interest are grave national security implications from these events. >> and they are not partisan risks. these are risks to our entire country. it's all us are invested in this together. come on, people. matt, best of luck in your vein. still ahead -- >> a girl like me, she was never supposed to be up there next to jacqueline kennedy and dolley madison. that is what this country is about. it's got blood or pedigree or wealth. it's a place where everyone should have a fair shot.

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you'll note that he refused to hide any of my gray hairs, refused my request to make my ears smaller. [ laughter ] he also talk me out of wearing a tan suit, by the way. >> he laughs at his own joke. that's what makes it. a day full of laughs and legacy at the white house as former president barack obama and first lady michelle obama returned for the ceremonial unveiling of their official portraits painted by artist robert mccurdy and sharon sprung. remember those names. president joe biden hosted his former boston, the bromance on full display. this moment of levity i think is something that we all needed. it wasn't all fun and laughs though. the two also got in some subtle

but pointed lines on the current state of affairs. >> maybe most of all thanks to your faith in our democracy and the american people. the country is better off than when you took office and we should all be deeply grateful for that. >> traditions like this matter, not for most of us who hold these positions but for everyone participating in and watching our democracy. you see, the people, they make their voices heard with their vote. we hold an inauguration to ensure a peaceful transition of power. >> it was also an historic moment as the obamas will be the first black family to have their portraits hung in the white house. michelle spoke on that significance as well. >> we're looking at today a portrait of a bi-racial kid with an unusual name and the daughter of a water pump operator and a stay-at-home mom.

what we are seeing is a remind their there's a place for everyone in this country because as barack said if the two of us can end up on the walls of the most famous address in the world, then, again, it is so important for every young kid who is doubting themselves to believe that they can, too. >> joining me now is david plough, msnbc political analyst and former white house senior adviser. david, it is so rare that i get to invied you on to talk about something that can make us smile, so i'm really glad that you were available today. i got so many texts today of people who were feeling the obama/biden nostalgia. it was really the greatest buddy act in the history politics but also seeing barack obama an michelle obama together and even the joe biden making president biden get up and clap by himself it was real great. what were your thoughts about today? >> yeah, it was a great moment, an historical movement i think that the obamas and all the

staff clearly were having a great time in the east room, a lot of laughs but also some pointed and important messages about the state of our democracy so -- but, you know, i think you mentioned, joy, that maybe it was best that this waited, and i think you're right. i think this would have been incredibly awkward to be generous in the last administration, so this was a celebration, not just of the obamas, certainly that was part of it, but everything that was accomplished in his administration, an it was great that he also, you know, i think talked about the difference joe biden has made as president. yes, it's nice to be able to smile in the midst of all the carnage that the republicans are wreaking across the country >> you for example the thing about it, david, is we've gotten so out of touch with the things that were traditional, right? it's not unusual for a vice president to follow the president into office. eisenhower, and herbert walker

bush became president after serving under ronald reagan. barack obama was a black guy, that was different, his name is different but the thing that struck me today is how much they fit into the overall traditions of the american republic, the idea of the peaceful transfer of poker the idea that there is a congeniality in politics. i feel like trump has so disrupted that and has introduced so much violence into just the narrative of american politics, not just january 6th but his whole political vibe is violent, that i feel like we've lost that. do you worry that we've lost it permanently and that today was a nice day but not the way politics is going to ever be again? >> well, i think that's the extension question, joy. this next election in '22 and the big election in '24 will determine whether trump was just a four-year aberration and then obviously a few years after that where we were sorely tested or

whether the entire thing falls apart so you're right. i mean, barack obama and michelle obama obviously broke the race barrier. my son just turned 18 which is why i had to stay in california. when he was very little he had a place mat of all the presidents and obviously they all were a certain gender and race and there's barack obama. at the age of 3, like, wow. but i think, yeah, you saw in the obamas the love of this country, of our institutions, of the rule of law. michelle obama talked when your time is done, you move on and we often would talk about that in the white house, that this was just a relay race and you had the baton for your time whether that's four or eight years and you pass it on. whether you like the person you're passing it on to or not, you know, you pass it on and i think, you know, for the most part historically, and the i've always struck, joy, when i've talked to people who worked in prior administrations, the reference that they hold for that building, for the institution and that sense of history, so we were remind of

that today that i think the obamas obviously are unique in their story of they have some unique rhetorical gifts but they are not unique in the history span about their faithfulness to the constitution and i think that's the question. even if trump doesn't run, you know, if somebody else runs who believes what he does and the election is illegitimately provided to someone who didn't get enough votes, you know, i think the country is over as we know it so we're definitely, definitely on a knife's edge still. today was a nice moment but it really was just an interruption in this sort historical battle that's going on for whether america is going to remain a democracy or not. >> let me throw some statistics out there for folks. joe biden is not unusual in terms of where he stands with the mesh people, at 44% approval, better than donald trump exactly where barack obama was. but the idea that 54% of republicans believe america will be less of a democracy, 56% of democrats believe the same thing and 64% of americans believe

that political violence is going to increase, increase in this country, tells me that we are looking down the barrel of something truly terrifying, that we will look back a the ma and biden presidencies as the end of something and the -- and the -- and the trump presidency at the beginning of something and something terrible. i worry about that a lot. do you? >> until, joy, we put an end to it. that's the challenge, that the trump presidency and a few years ago it be a time in american history with leaders of a party and a lot of its supporters were okay with america becoming an autocracy. there's well north of 60%, well north of 70% of people, i wish it were 100 who would like for

us to remain a democracy, who believes we should have a peaceful transfer of power. basically the question is whether you're an independent, democrat or republican. you can disagree on a whole bunch of stuff. we have to make common cause to defeat those who are election deniers, to defeat those who basically want to turn america into an autocracy and then once that is safe we can go back into our corners and fight about what the tax rate should be. >> 100%. my problem is the 7 a%. there's a handful of judges on the supreme court and handful of judges out there like this judge cannon and a handful of really way out there police, way out there in la la land but we'll talk about that another day. david plough. it's always a pleasure. cheers. up next, republicans are scram, scram, scrambling to find millions of way of americans to

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to put that in clearer terms, one-third of adults under 30 or 34% of all student loan debt. this will helping an epidemiologist or a call center supervisor in ohio or a teacher in florida, or i mean, at least if it's supposed to, but if republicans have their way it might not happen. "the washington post" reports that republicans are looking to sue their way into blocking the relief. a number of republican attorneys general from a state -- from states including arizona, missouri and texas have met privately to discuss a strategy that could see multiple cases filed in different courts across the country. it should shock no one that texas senator ted cruz, the guy famous for disc his state when the people were literally freezing to death, is leading the charge. now mind you, republicans who seem to really enjoying making regular american lives harder

sure do love loan forgiveness when it comes to their own businesses. they had ppp loans forgiven including representative verne buick nafn florida marjorie taylor greene, who got $182,000 for her families construction business -- mike kelly of pennsylvania got close to $1 million forgiven for his four car dealerships. greg pence, whether former vice president pence, got $79,000 forgiven for his two antique malls. and kevin her and of oklahoma who owns a restaurant management company, he got more than 1 million dollars in forgivable loans. oh, and there is another thing student loan borrowers have to contend with. in the end, at, mississippi, arkansas and north carolina all require that you pay taxes on

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150,000 residents of jackson mississippi had no access to safe drinking water, many without running water at all, water pressure in the city has been restored. there is still a boil advisory that has been in effect for more than a month now. and while water maybe restored, the city is no closer to fixing it's the infrastructure, which the mayor says could cost a

billion dollars. jackson is not the only city facing a water crisis related to all investiture. e. coli was discovered in baltimore's water system, and arsenic was discovered in the water at a public housing hump complex in new york city. today, epa administrator michael regan this is the jackson and promised to fix the systemic problem. he joins me now. thank you very much, secretary -- administrator michael regan, thank you for being here. what can be that then bowed to jackson and win? >> thank you for having me, joy. the first reason i'm here is, i convened a meeting today with the mayor of jackson and -- millions of dollars on the table right now that jackson needs to apply for, so that we can begin to move forward. 43 million to be exact, that jackson has access to immediately. that is before we get into the resources from the bipartisan infrastructure law. the other reason i am here is, i am eating with residents here

in jackson. i sat in ms. anderson's living room today -- 92 years old -- and you know what she told, me joy? i'm tired of the finger pointing. -- what i want to continue to do is continue to move forward and fix this problem. >> let me ask you this. because you know that there have been issues, not just with the previous governors, that when they have gotten federal money, they spend it on whatever they want, whether that's billion to tennis facility or whatever. is there a way for the city of jackson itself to apply for some of that money that was in the big infrastructure bill and get that money directly to jackson, bypassing whatever the state would want to do with it? >> joy, the way to structured we have to work with the state. what i can say to you is congress put some strings on this. over 50% of the resources from the bipartisan infrastructure bill has to go to disadvantaged communities, communities of color, communities exactly like jackson. r,so, there are some strings on

the resources that went before. by the $43 million is sitting there right now. i got a commitment today from the governor and the mayor, and both u.s. senators, that we would work together to put together a structure and the package so that jackson could be competitive for those dollars. it is our job to be sure that every person in jackson has access to good quality drinking water. and so, i am on the ground here today, brokering deals, getting people to put aside political differences, get in the same room and let's roll forward together. >> by the way, jackson is not just some small community of color. it is the capital of mississippi! it's the capital city. they don't have water in the capital city. let me ask you about california very quickly. they have an electricity crisis right now because of the heat. is there anything the epa can do about what is going on out west? >> i think that is another example -- listen, we put together rules that began to reduce pollution that are exacerbating this climate crisis. but in the bipartisan infrastructure law, the

department of energy received significant resources to invest in a more resilient grid. we are also putting together rules and regulations that encourage more investment in clean energy, which is distributed, so that we can be more nimble and mobile as we face this climate crisis. joy, i would say that the presidents vision around mitigating the climate crisis and preparing for the future in an adaptive way, is really intertwined into these resources that we have at our fingertips. and so you have an entire cabinet -- from d.o.e. to agriculture to epa to labor -- we are all working together to create economies of the future, use technology of the future to generate clean energy, so that our society can adapt and be globally competitive. >> next time you talk with tate reeves, the governor of mississippi, please tell him i would love for him to come on the show with you, and let's talk about what can be done. and maybe with mayor chokwe antar lumumba, because you are right. this is not a partisan issue,

whether or not there is clean drinking water should be an issue for everyone in mississippi. and for god sakes, they should care about their own capital. epa administrator michael regan, i really do appreciate you being here. thank you for all you are doing and appreciate you and please come back. all right everyone, that's a wrap. i hope you guys enjoyed the obama and biden coming together today. i know i did. that is tonight's reidout, all in with chris hayes starts right now. ght now. >> good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. this scope of down trump's purloined stash of documents keeps going day by day. we have now, of course, learned that among the documents seized by the fbi from mar-a-lago was, quote, a document describing a foreign governments military defenses, including its nuclear capabilities. that is according to the washington post, citing for sources familiar with the matter. the post also notes, quote, some of the seized documents detail top secret u.s. operations so closely guarded that my