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queen elizabeth ii dead. her son, prince charles, is now king charles iii, officially. we learned queen elizabeth's doctors were quote, concerned about her health this morning. it was at the time, an extraordinary statement from a notoriously private buckingham palace. those words sent news outlets like ours into rolling wait and see coverage and thousands of well wishers to buckingham palace itself, watching those railings. that fencing. where all the royals most significant news is so often posted. from the birth of an heir to the death of a monarch. the queen did not pass at buckingham. she passed in scotland at the family's summer vacation home. balmoral castle. here is a post on that gate. you're seeing it here. the queen died peacefully at balmoral this afternoon. as the word broke about her health troubles, her family rushed up there.

all of her children are at balmoral. prince william is also there, seen driving his uncles through the gates. prince harry is on his way, notably traveling separately. perhaps another sign of this underlying tension for the royal family. in her 70 years on the throne, she presided over and at times was forced to change with a modernizing world. her coronation was the first to be televised back in 1953. here it is right there. her sister was the first senior member of the family to divorce. a taboo for so long. and her son, prince charles, was the first heir to do so. infamously divorcing princess diana in 1996. after the queen herself urged the couple to let go. she is the first monarch to have sent an e-mail.

there have been seven posts during her reign. she met five of them. 14 presidents. she met all by johnson. and 15 prime ministers. her first, winston churchill. her last, liz truss, who she invited to form a government just days ago seen here. and now the last public photo of the queen alive. as of now, the uk begins ten days of mourning. joining us now is nbc news foreign correspondent, molly hunter, in london. susanna, david, and former bbc north america editor. molly, we have it official now that it is king charles iii. what do about his movements and when we can expect to see him next? >> that's right.

so we just got a statement from the king's spokesperson that he will speak in a televised address tomorrow. that is all we know. as you mentioned, we believe that he is at balmoral. that he was at balmoral with his sibling, his children today, when the queen passed. he was at balmoral before the statement about her health this morning, we believe, and he was at balmoral when she died. so as you mentioned, today is a day that not only everyone here will remember, but possible many, many people around the world. that original statement, that extraordinary statement unprompted, not responding to a missed appearance. not responding to a canceled event came at 12:34. it was following further evaluation from the queen's doctors then it was at 6:30 where we got that official announcement of her death. it appeared on twitter under the royal family twitter handle then those messages were posted at you mentioned at palaces across the country.

>> do we know anything about whether the other siblings, whether anne or edward were able to be by her side before she passed? do we know timing of when she passed? >> these are intimate details that we may not know from buckingham palace. we don't even know exactly how she died except for peacefully, according to the palace and royal family. we don't know exactly who was by her side. we know all of her children made it up there. whether or not they arrived there before she passed. we don't know. we also know as you mentioned that prince william was with some of his uncles and was headed there. we don't know exactly when prince harry got up there, but certainly the family is together now. this is a private evening of mourning. not sure we're going to get that many more details about this very intimate time with this family. >> john, it is so interesting. so much of our lives are public. we overshare so much. buckingham palace, the royal

family itself, is still very, very tight lipped about the private affairs. >> exactly. we're so used to hanging out our feelings and our emotions and what it brought home to me was when president trump flew to the britain for the state visit. i was the washington correspondent there and i flew to london to witness the occasion, and i saw the queen standing with donald trump near windsor castle and i saw the two of them together and i thought there is barely a minute of the day where i'm not aware what donald trump is thinking. through the gaggles. through the tweets. even in the middle of the night. you know what donald trump, is on donald trump's mind. and the queen, for the 60 plus years that i've been alive on this earth, we have never known what she thinks about anything. she's discreet. she's committed her life to public service. and it is hard to understate not

just the shock in the royal family tonight, but the shock felt across this country because in many ways, in a divisive and in difficult times, she has been the glue that has bound us together. it just seems unimaginable when you were saying the word, king charles iii, it just sounds really jarring because we're not used to it and yet this woman has been on the throne since president truman as you say, since churchill. she has been the living living embodiment of modern britain. >> when liz truss was speaking, she ended her remarks with god save the king and that really threw me off because my entire life i've only heard god save the queen. it's not just me. it's so many. the majority of the british public has only ever heard god save the queen.

she came into reign after her father died unexpectedly at a very young age, in his 50s. she was just 25 years old. the uk had just come out of world war ii. it was the '50s. there was rebuilding. the world was changed rapidly. i also note that she was the first female royal to be a full-time member of the military. >> yes. i mean, look, she and her sister, when the armistice was declared and peace was declared in europe, they sneaked out of buckingham palace because they wanted to be among the people. and she has always had, managed to have this distance and sense, but to be part of the british people as well. i was fortunate enough to chair an event for her, host an event at a school, and i had to do the introductions, introduce the

queen and prince philip, and everything went wrong. yet she was absolutely charming with the children. small acts of kindness with things she did every day for 70 years as well as being a wise counsel to prime ministers, as well as being head of the commonwealth, as well as being britain's ambassador, if you like, around the world. >> you know, this is a, an interesting moment for the royal family. you could say they're at a bit of an inflection point. there are voices out there in the uk and abroad that say there's no point to them any longer. the taxpayers spend too much money on them. why do they even exist any longer? they only serve to show and be a dramatic picture of inequality in the uk. despite those who did not believe in the monarchy, there was a real sense of respect and admiration and affection for queen elizabeth. we will see if that transfers to

now king charles iii, but it does kind of feel like this is a precarous moment for the royal family. what is it like in the uk? how do people talk about the monarchy? >> people talk about the seven stages of grief and at the moment in britain, it is shock, mourning, sadness. i think you're right to raise the question of potentially this being an inflection point. potentially people raising questions of republicanism. all the time the queen was on the throne, she commanded such popularity that i think that no one was going to seriously raise a question mark over the future of the monarchy. now that she's gone and we contemplate king charles iii ruling over us, long may he reign, i think those questions will come back. now what i would say is that i

think over the last years of the queen's life, a lot of things have been put in place to make that transition more smooth and less choppy for the royal family. the fact that camilla has been fully integrated and we expect her to be consort, and that having been the queen's wish. the rehabilitation. you said in your powerful introduction about the separation of charles and diana. a lot of british people felt very uncomfortable about that. very uncomfortable about him marrying camilla, but i think that is sufficiently in the rear view mirror now that maybe people can move on from that. but you're right. when diana died, i had actually come back from america and i remember the sense of turbulence. this is a wild ride and we don't know where it's going to end up. i think the royal family have had time to prepare for this.

the british government have had time to prepare for this and they're hoping it will be a good deal less turbulent than in the moments after diana's death where it felt a really bumpy time for the monarchy. >> there was such a separation between the monarchy and the public for so long, but when she came into reign, that did start to change. i mean, when she had charles, and she was home schooled, correct me if i'm wrong. she was home schooled, charles went to school with commoners, went to public school. he was out there. her husband, prince philip, decided to do a documentary and was the driver of a documentary. bbc documentary about the british royal family. about them. trying to show that they are just like regular people, acknowledging that if there is not more access to them, if the public does not feel more connected to them in this modern age, then they will be

irrelevant and their position will be in danger. their position as head of the country. figurative head of the country. it's one of the longest reigning monarchies, longest existing monarchies that's still out there. so many have not survived into this modern era. but there has been turbulence and you mentioned it with what happened with princess diana after her death. especially the slowness with which queen elizabeth took to acknowledge it and get out in front of it and show the public the royal family was mourning just as they were mourning, but there's also some turbulence now with harry and william and with charles and the, this book that prince harry is writing that was supposed to come out around now, but has since been pushed back. it does still feel like this is kind of a we'll see what happens moment. >> oh, i think that's absolutely correct. i think this is a wait and see. i think you're analysis is spot on. i think that the queen and

prince philip particularly, the duke of edinburgh, were a aware of the danger of seeming too remote from people. we were just mere subjects and we owed everything to them and it was god given that she would reign over us. i think they recognized they had to preserve something of the magic, if you like, of the monarchy. that they had to also be accessible through a period where britain was changing rapidly. from the austerity of the 1940s and '50s and you talked about when she came to the throne. we had food rationing in this country then. then to the swinging '60s and then the liberalizing and opening up of the country to the modern day, multiracial britain that we live in. i think that the royal family, not always brilliantly, have moved along. and i think it is the source of

immense sadness and concern that the magic that people felt when harry and meghan got married on that beautiful summer's day in windsor has turned sour so quickly and finger pointing and interviews and reaction to it and i think that that has, is a real concern and a source of immense sadness, but i think what happens now with king charles iii is sort of above that, but i still think there is the potential for things to become a little more bumpy in the days ahead as we kind of go through those stages of grief into whether we can all accept and rally around charles, who has been waiting to do this job his whole life and he's now in his 70s. will we accept him as our king. >> i was there for prince harry and meghan's wedding and you're

right. it was joyous. there was a real energy outside of windsor castle. it felt like a big, happy, momentous moment and it did turn sour so fast. there will be so much dissected about what we see in the ensuing days. about the interactions between prince harry and william and their father, now king charles iii and so much heightened interest in whether they seem to be getting along or if they do not. you're talking about the period of austerity, john. post world war ii when she became queen. i just want to note this and you probably certainly wouldn't have known it if you looked at the dress, but before she became queen, when she married prince philip, she bought her wedding dress with world war ii ration coupons. this was a soon to be queen who bought her wedding dress with

coupons. it is remarkable. let's go to kier simmons who is outside of buckingham palace. the crowd has grown there. what is it like? >> reporter: you know, you're talking about those crowds at this wedding we were both at, harry and meghan's wedding. the crowds here are extraordinary in a different way because where we are, we're in front of buckingham palace. this world famous location. anyone who has been to london will know exactly where i'm standing with the famous mall there. and first of all, it's pretty hard to take in that just a few months ago, the queen was standing on that famous balcony celebrating 70 years on the throne. it's also hard to comprehend that a queen born in if 1920s in an era of wireless radio now outside buckingham palace, i'm just going to step out of the way so you can see. it is dark so it's hard to see, but you should be able to see in the distance there, kind of flickers of light. those are cell phones.

people, the crowd, the area outside buckingham palace is full of people and many of them with cell phones, holding up to take pictures perhaps and also i think perhaps as some way of trying to send a message a kind of modern, that very modern tradition now of holding up cell phones as kind of beacons of light. so every now and then, there's a ripple of applause through the crowd. this isn't as you know, katy, you know london well. a very noisy part of london, but it is extraordinarily quiet here. people not talking. you can just hear the rain on people's umbrellas, but this is, this is -- i haven't seen this kind of reaction, i think, maybe since the death of queen mother, but perhaps since the death of princess diana when i was young journalist just starting off and saw people on the streets with

the outpouring of grief and anger. i heard you talking about william and harry there. i think it's interesting to reflect that william is at balmoral where the queen died. harry is on his way. we don't know if he's there yet. but both were at balmoral with queen when their mom died and she consoled them there and that tells you something about how close those two boys were to the queen. what this moment will mean for them. and imagine, and we shouldn't be there and we can't be there to see what's happening now. it's private grief for this very public family. but imagine what it must be like now for harry and william to be there together marking the death of their grandmother. knowing the history of that place and what she did for them in the days after the death of their mother. it really is, it's quite moving

to think about this family doing the things that so many of us have done when we have lost an elderly loved one. you can imagine the phone calls and the texts between her children. we saw that extraordinary picture of william driving the car with his uncles and aunt in the car, racing to get there. racing to be with her. it's a moment right now, and we're going to talk a lot in the days ahead, about the public side and king charles is going to make a speech and there's going to be a state funeral and those things. right now is a very, very private moment for the royal family and another moment where we just reflect when it comes to the royal family on the balancing act that the queen mostly so deftly managed to put off between the private and the public. >> so often, grandmothers are

the glue that hold tense families together and the closeness that they seem to have, at least publicly, with their grandmother. let's hope that she was not that same glue and that they can find it elsewhere. as you were speaking, i got chills thinking about that moment, the image of prince harry and prince william as kids, walking behind their mother's casket in that procession. that famous picture, and what it must be like for them right now to be experiencing another death, a notable, big death in their life and then the knowledge that this public mourning, public funeral, public procession, will begin again and they'll be expected to take part in it. >> it's what duty is.

it's incredible painful. service is about giving up so much just in order to serve and that's what that really is about and we've heard from those boys, particularly harry, actually, how incredibly difficult it was to walk behind diana's casket. think about charles, the moment which he loses his mom. in the end, nothing really prepares you for losing your mother. even if she is 96, even if you've talked about it and planned for it for so long. think about that moment in which he loses his mother and becomes king and the enormous weight of responsibility that he now has on his shoulders and that he will have to make not just one speech, but multiple speeches. the body will be moved to a different place in scotland. then taken by train here to london. there will be a state funeral. there will be dignitaries from

around the world to come and pay tribute. and charles will be at the center of all that and william will be at center of all that and harry and all the other child while at the same time having to do their duty and we talk about the fact that what you've done during your broadcast so far, the incredible moment this week when the queen pulled herself up with a walking stick to appoint the new prime minister despite the fact we now know she was days from death. that's duty. it's not pleasant. it's not a walk in the park. it's tough, it's hard, and it's going to be hard for charles and i think there will be questions looking ahead. i do know, i think he does know that. i suspect that, i know there are plans, he will have plans i suspect we'll see the slimmed down monarchy, but in the end, and this is the thing about

royals. is that in the end, there were others who have a say in the matter and that is the people in the crowd behind me there. the people who are you know, old fashioned term, but the monarch's subjects. they will have a say, too. what we're seeing right now, i mean, this is history. for these people at the center of history. >> it is a moment where the world has changed and i don't say that lightly. thank you so much. let's bring in david ignatius. this is a moment where the world is changing. we've gotten statements from other dignitaries, past presidents and current presidents and senators alike, but what does this mean for the world? losing somebody who sat on the throne of britain for 70 years. experienced so much. you know, lost many of the

colonies that used to be subject to britain. became commonwealth. still to this day, some of them are breaking free. barbados, i believe it was last year. >> she was a figure of continuity in a world that's changing so fast that often seems to be fragmenting before our eyes. queen elizabeth stayed, endured, was a calming figure. she lived on that interface as we've been discussing, between public and private. i think there's a, an unusual quality about her death. even people in america, a country that rebelled against the british monarchy, there's a deep sense of loss. feeling that this is a queen that americans got to know through the media. she was the world's biggest celebrity in some ways. we all feel as if we've known

about her, her family tragedies, about her children and their difficulties. and there's a way which she endured through all that, a graciousness. former prime minister tony blair was quoted in "the washington post," when he met her, he found her surprisingly shy for the queen of england, but also very direct. there's a combination of absolutely precise operations as head of state, but a very reticence person. her son, charles, is quite a different person. he's been outspoken about environmental issues, about architecture. doesn't like some of the modern buildings in london and he says so and took criticism for it. he will be, i think, a more public, perhaps less shy

presence than queen elizabeth was. as we've been discussing whether the monarchy can endure is a symbol for britain as a country that's in some ways coming apart itself. scottish people aren't sure they want to remain in a post brexit britain. i wonder how that will be affected by the queen's passing. in all these ways, i think she's a figure that's held the world together. that people admired even as they saw the enormous pain she lived with, they admired her for sticking with it. for finding a path for herself and her children and i'm sure people in britain especially look toward the future without this queen that they love so much with a sense of sadness and uncertainty. >> there was a scottish referendum in 2014, questions about whether there will be a second one and how close that vote might be as you were

alluded to. let's also bring in peter baker, the chief white house correspondent with "the new york times." we often bring on to ask about global affairs and what it all means. peter, what are you watching for? >> well, i think i'm watching for how this affects actually the relationship with the united states in some ways. she was the glue in a lot of ways for this relationship. i'm writing today about how she met with 13 presidents from truman to biden. only exception, lbj. she was the constant of the relationship between the great imperial britain and the colonies that broke away. that's now over. that sense of commonality. that sense of shared mission and purpose in the world. that sense of you know r familial bonds, if you will. without her, that's now a very different scenario. i think that it's a loss because she sort of held together

through republican, democrat, all these different politics and fraught moments. she kept that bond at center every time she met with a president here or over in britain. >> i wonder now that it's king charles iii, will we start seeing the return of the british monarch to the united states? we haven't seen, last time we saw queen elizabeth was 2007. >> feeling is that we will see charles here as he settles into his role as king. he has long had very accomplished foreign policy advisers in his very long time as prince of wales. he was still being briefed about foreign policy, thinking carefully about it. i think for britain, especially after brexit, the special relationship really does matter for them. not just in security terms, but

the financially. there's a way in which the british royal family, the queen and now king charles, makes that special relationship special. it's the thing that's different that's symbolically so important. so i hope we'll see him in washington. as peter says, this relationship is in the period of some flux. we have a new prime minister. person very new to the kind of power she's going to have to exercise. a new king. i'd be surprised if we don't see a good deal of both of them over the coming year. >> she famously said years ago about the united states, i believe this was at the bicentennial. even though there was a break in our relationship because of the revolutionary war, us breaking away literally from england, it did not break, at least for long, our friendship. she certainly would write about that as britain has been our closest ally. the uk has been our closest ally for decades now. so much of what we do around the

world, so much of what we know around the world. peter, if i can get your thoughts on what david was saying. a new prime minister. now a new king. we have an election coming up here. midterms coming up. two years until another presidential election here. lots of change coming. >> there is lots of change. i think you have to go back hundreds of years to find a time in britain with they had a new king and prime minister in the same week. but you know, charles at least to some extent, a known commodity. he actually i think has priorities and interests that are different than his mother's. one of them for instance is climate change. i think of this anecdote during the trump presidency when they wanted president trump here from somebody outside the united states about how important climate change was. his own staff quietly urged prince charles to raise the issue with president trump while he was visiting. not sure it went well because

one of the memoirs, he only wanted to talk about climate change and was sort of bored by the issue. charles is going through his own issues and concerns at the table. obviously he's not a policymaker, but that doesn't mean he can't be a leader in the conversation. >> what we're watching now are folks laying flowers, candles at windsor castle. the queen moved to windsor castle at the beginning of covid then decided to stay there permanently as covid wore on and as mobility issues took hold. also after the passing of prince philip last year. she has been at balmoral, or had been at balmoral for the summer as they do every year, but her permanent home had been windsor castle, not buckingham palace. that's why you're seeing so much

love and support there. let's bring in ryan heath. politico's editorial director for global growth and former press secretary for the uk cabinet office. good to have you. as we've been talking about new prime minister, new king in one week. it's got to be a particularly difficult moment for prime minister truss. all of the previous prime ministers have had those weekly meetings with the queen and at the very least, have been able to lean on her experience over the years. she will not have that. >> no, and one thing that prime minister truss and king charles have in common is that they tend to dive right into issues. sometimes they go in for the politicking and come for the facts later and they're both going to have to decide how much politicking they want to do. how will they set new boundaries now that they're in this uncharted territory. that's going to be very important because liz truss has been the face of the global britain policy as the latest

iteration of them trying to find out what is their place in the world. something they've been trying to answer for the last 70, 75 years, and haven't really settled for an answer. and charles has to hold this commonwealth together. including my own, australia, people are willing to stick with the monarchy while queen elizabeth was on the throne, but they do not approve of charles. that see him as a very human figure so they respect him as a human, but they feel they've moved past that institution. there's going to be a series of intense debates now about how people want to relate to this institution of the monarchy and how britain relates to the world. >> barbados declared independence from the monarchy. do you expect to have a referendum in australia? you're talking about there's not as much love there for charles. would it actually go to a vote there? >> yes, i think it will. there was a vote in 1999 and the monarchy was retained. i think we'll end up in that voting situation again. the new government wants to have

a referendum. but at the same time, there's a lot of respect for the institution. it's not a top of the order issue when you have high levels of inflation. when you have live wars around the world. these are things people also care about so i think it's a sensitive issue. there's going to be no suggestion in the coming months of another vote, but when you look over a five to ten-year horizon, absolutely that's going to be on the agenda. >> the world is dealing with higher inflation. the uk itself is also having a bit of an economic crisis with energy prices going up. there's going to be a hold on energy prices for the people of the united kingdom because prices are on the rise. it is just a very delicate moment. we're seeing just by example, the pound is very nearly as valuable as the dollar. usually the pound is a whole lot stronger. what is it like there in terms of -- what is it like in the uk

now with this economic crisis, a new prime minister, and now a new king? >> it's honestly a very precarious situation. you have a situation where millions of brittons are paying more for energy than housing. that's not a situation most people have been in before. so the new government is going to have to bring in some fairly radical policies. liz truss is a radical free marketeer who has to bring in a massive subsidy program just to keep the ship upright. and prince charles is deeply committed to climate change so he's not going to wipe her off the clock if she tries to wind up targets. whereas prince charles is seen as deeply political, a bit annoying by the civil servants and others in british politics, when you have two generation of the monarchy forcing everyone to think about climate change, then that will be an issue for liz

truss. it will be addressed to the biden administration and whoever succeeds them. >> you're talking about how much influence. king charles will have these weekly meetings, i presume, if he's going to continue the tradition with liz truss. if he feels deeply about climate change and policy, he will say so to her. how much sway will he have? >> it's certainly influence rather than power. so we need to be honest about that. prince charles isn't about to run red lines through ministerial briefs and draft legislation or anything like that. but the monarchy does hold a lot of weight. prince charles is known to write annoying letters. he will pick up the phone and harass people he disagrees with so liz truss can expect that. prince william is due in new york on the 21st of september to speak about climate change and the need for us to address more on innovations to address the climate crisis. so the day after the queen's funeral, the prince will be in

new york delivering that message to americans. >> and that letter will have more weight with it when it's signed king charles iii, i suppose, to prince charles. ryan heath, thank you so much for joining us. we are going to sneak in a very quick break. please do not go anywhere. our continuing coverage of the passing of queen elizabeth ii continues in a moment. fitness i. i saw myself in a photograph. and we were all smiling, and i looked closer, and i was like that- that's what everybody sees? i'm back, and i got botox® cosmetic. the lines were so prominent it's all i saw in the photograph, so now when i take photos, and i see myself in photos, its- it's me, i just have fewer lines. botox® cosmetic is fda-approved to temporarily make frown lines, crow's feet, and forehead lines look better. the effects of botox® cosmetic may spread hours to weeks after injection causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away, as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness

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monarch, died after living a life dedicated to duty. born in 1926, the third grandchild of king george iv, she would guide the nation and its monarchy through historic challenges. during the blitz, the royal family stayed in london despite the nightly bombing raids from nazi germany. to the people of britain, there was this message from their future queen. >> we know every one of us that in the end, all will be well. >> that speech sealed a special relationship with her future subjects. ♪♪ westminster abbey, 1953. the first time tv cameras were allowed inside to record a coronation. ♪♪ the celebration was seen worldwide. and elizabeth's reign would be felt worldwide. she was the most widely traveled

monarch in history. she helped transform britain's empire, easing former colonies into states. all that while balancing mother hood and monarchy. three sons and a daughter. the pomp was there, but circumstances changed. for the first time, the queen opened the royal family to the public eye. she encouraged her children to live lives beyond the palace walls. in some ways, the royal family appeared just like the rest of us. vulnerable. there was divorce and reconciliation. her son, prince andrew, meiered in allegations of sexual misconduct. but the tragedy of princess diana was an especially dark moment. her fairy tale marriage ended in a messy divorce, then death. diana killed in a traffic accident in paris. the royal family grieved privately.

the queen quickly returned to london from her vacation home to pay tribute to diana and face a challenge to modernize the monarchy. >> i for one believe there are lessons to be drawn from her life and from the extraordinary and moving reaction to her death. >> queen elizabeth set out to change the face of monarchy. it would be more open, compassionate, in touch with a change in british public. >> institutions which in turn must continue to evolve if they are to provide effective beacons of trust and unity. >> she embraced many changes, including the marriage of her grandson, prince william, to commoner, kate middleton. and prince harry to the american actress, meghan markell. she celebrated the birth of

great grandchildren, including prince george, third in line to the throne. in 2021, prince philip died. in her words, he was her strength and stay, but queen elizabeth continued to inspire people around the world. during the covid pandemic, her words helped everyone to keep calm and carry on. >> this time we join with all nations across the globe in a common endeavor. using the great advances of science and our instinctive compassion to heal. we will succeed and that success will belong to every one of us. >> she was the longest reigning british monarch in history. on the throne for more than 70 years. her platinum jubilee celebrated with a military parade. ♪♪ beacons lit across the world. >> i keep mine in here.

>> a surprise appearance from paddington bear and over 10 million people across britain gathering for street parties to honor their one and only queen. the jubilee concluded with a final wave from queen elizabeth from the balcony of buckingham palace. she was joined by three future kings. prince charles, prince william, and prince george. the crowds cheering for queen elizabeth ii. a monarch for the ages. >> one of those future kings is now the current king. king charles iii. we have an image to show you. we've got it confirmed that prince harry has made it up to balmoral. here he is in the backseat of a car as it approached the gates. again, he came separately from his brother, prince william. really sad moment for this family. certainly a sad moment for these

brothers returning to balmoral to mourn another death. another major death in their life. it's also where they found out their mother, princess diana, was killed. joining me now is erin hill, tim york and jonathan alter. i do want to begin with you, tim, and we're now allowing this to sink in. it's been a couple of hours since we've gotten official word. we've seen harry make it up there to balmoral. there are questions being asked about what's going to happen to the monarchy. what will it look like? how will it change under king charles? >> well, you know, despite her years, 96 years old, the queen was a modernizer and she had very much looked to both prince william and prince harry to be the face of the monarchy going forward.

the new face of the monarchy. and i think that we'll find that king charles, as he now is, will very much want to continue that modernization. he will certainly want the royal family to appear to be slimmer and leaner. possibly fewer receiving public money. that's certainly on his agenda. also, you talked earlier to ryan, the australian making the point about charles' own personal popularity. that is going to be a problem because part of the monarchy's popularity in this country, to be fair, it's not universally popular, but a large part of it was due to the personal popularity over the queen, which had developed over many, many years. that's quite a challenge now. quite a challenge for charles going forward. big shoes to step into, if you like. it's going to be difficult. i do think that one of the most

important things that he will want to try to do is to somehow heal this rift with prince harry. now, we assume that they will be together. william and harry. it may be that this in their grief, they will be in their grief they will be united and that will certainly be something that charles very, very much wants, but he's got some big challenges ahead. he's going to have to not make public comments, for example, as he has done in the past on a number of issues. the queen did not, she kept her counsel. that was in no small part of per popularity and it is a difficult time and once the grieving is over and this is a nation this will be mourning now officially for ten or 11 days, but once that period of grieving is over i think king charles iii will have to sit down with his closest members of the family and work out a way forward.

>> aaron, i know you cover this closely. how steep is that mountain? >> yes, you know, we are seeing king charles now and queen consort camilla, they're the president of the monarchy and we are seeing the future of the monarchy is future king william and queen consort kate, and their family and the queen very much saw that the future of the monarchy lies in them and they're poised to enjoy a long reign. so charles, i think, in saying he wants a slimmed down monarchy, while that is focused on the cambridges. there are three children. all eyes on them right now as william is poised to step into his role as prince of wales and kate princess of wales, a title we haven't seen since diana and something charles has been given a lot of thought of with the slimmed down monarchy and we saw it in the monarchy during the

jubilee. >> when you talk about a slimmed down monarchy, tim, what does that mean? how many royals are currently being paid with tax dollars? >> well, i haven't looked at the list recently, but it was not, but this balcony image that we had recently with the queen, with the people in the direct line of succession is very much the way that charles is going to want to go forward and you know, expenditure on the royal family is a complicated issue and there are all sorts of arguments about how much money that family counts, 50 pence, half a pound sterling per person per year and that's a lot of money and we're in an economic crisis at the moment and a lot of people will be looking to charles to set an example, to show that the monarchy can perhaps shed some of the extravagances of the past, the private jets and the

travel bills that were so hugely high. so he has got a big challenge and you know, there is a republican movement in this country. it's a very, very small one, but it will become not more vocal now and no longer queen elizabeth there. >> we have seen the cambridges travel coach on some of their journeys. >> let's go to jonathan alter. we talked about the relationship that queen elizabeth had with past presidents and we got to jfk and we've gotten to president trump from what we could glean from her appearance with him and from the lack of the appearance of prince philip and you have a story about the relationship that she had with president obama who went over there to meet her and wasn't exactly thrilled at the idea. am i phrasing that right? you tell me. >> i don't think it was a case of his dreading meeting the queen, but he wasn't, you know, ecstatic about it. he wasn't intimidated by it.

>> he wasn't a believer in the monarchy? >> it's not that he was a disbeliever, but he did think that there was a certain amount of hype that was associated with it and he wasn't sure about his relationship to modern institutionses. so it would be too much to say he was a skeptic, but he wasn't, you know, as impressed as maybe some others were when he went there and he made a kind of a faux pas on his first meeting with her in 2009. one of his gifts was an ipod, loaded ipod and the british press and they said that the queen was not amused and her reaction was what do i do with this? what is this for? >> you listen to music. >> and but then when they got to know each other on subsequent visits, they really quite liked each other and the queen was so charmed by barack obama that he

was the only president of the united states who was invited to meet with her after he was president, and so when he went to great britain after leaving the presidency he went and saw the queen and they got along famously. >> what was so charming to her about him? >> you know, again, this is all filtered through the british press and other account and various historical renderings, but she was charmed by him and she found him refreshing and also a pillar of integrity. remember, the queen for 70 years ruled beyond reproach and whatever you say about barack obama there was never a hint of scandal associated with him and he was a symbol for the united

states and was a little bit similar to a symbol of rectitude. he represented stability, decency and rectitude and something she embodied. she reigned for 70 years. her coronation was the first to be televised and the first to get the gift of an ipod from the president of the united states. thank you for that story. tim, everybody, thank you for being here for these past two hours and joining us as we remember the life and celebrated the life of queen elizabeth ii dead today at 96. that's going to do it for me. "deadline: white house" picks up our coverage next.

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hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york on an extraordinary day of breaking news on a number of fronts and continents. moments ago the justice department announced it will appeal a federal judge's decision to appoint a special master to review those documents seized in the search of donald trump's private residence. we will have full coverage of that story later in the two hours with our fri