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♪ good morning. and welcome to a special expanded 4:00 a.m. edition of
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"way too early," as we remember the life of queen elizabeth. i'm jonathan lemire. on this friday, september 9th. thank you for starting your day with us. the world is in mourning today, following the death of queen elizabeth ii. buckingham palace announced the passing of england's longest reigning monarch at 96 years old yesterday. writing in a brief statement, quote, the queen died peacefully this afternoon, her summer home in scotland. what comes next, a meticulously planned national memorializing of the queen, which was reportedly set in motion with four coded words yesterday. london bridge is down. as part of the plans, england's new king, charles iii will deliver a televised address to the united kingdom tonight. tomorrow, after privately taking an oath swearing to protect the church of scotland, king charles accession is expected to be announce from a balcony at saint james palace, that oath has been
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taken by every monarch since george i in 1714, meanwhile the queen's body will be transported back to buckingham palace for a small funeral procession attended by top government officials. that group will include the kingdom's new prime minister liz truss who was sworn in just this week in the queen's final public act. the queen's body is expected to stay there until tuesday. before being moved again westminster palace where members of the public will be able it pay their respects. simultaneously the new king will launch a tour of the united kingdom before returning to london for queen elizabeth's funeral. which is planned for next sunday. following the funeral, the queen will be buried inside saint george's chapel at windsor castle. joining us now from scotland is kelly cobiella. thanks for joining us this morning. tell us the mood, there for the
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first time in 70 years, waking up without queen elizabeth as their monarch. >> people have said they're heart broken. they're in a state of disbelief, some of them. sort of a stunned surprise, and really a sadness here, a somber feeling, because even though queen elizabeth was 96 years old, and we know had health issues over the past several months, almost a year now, this wasn't necessarily expected this soon. remember, just a couple of days ago, we saw that picture of the queen with the new prime minister, liz truss, she was smiling, she was bright and energetic, albeit smaller, a bit more frail than she has been even several months prior. but it almost came as a shock that her death was announced just yesterday, and it happened
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after this announcement in the afternoon, at about 12:30, local time yesterday, the palace saying that doctors were concerned about her health. that's really when it set in, i think across the country, that this was something quite series, and six hours later, 6:30 in the evening local time, the announce from the palace that the queen had passed peacefully at balmorl castle, i laid out the coming days quite well there, just a few minutes ago, today we expect king charles, it is tough to get used to that one, king charles will make his way down to london with the king consort, camilla, he was at the queen's bedside yesterday along with other members of the family, and he will begin to carry out his duties as monarch, a role that he has been waiting to carry out now for 70 years.
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jonathan? >> ten days of national mourning begin today. meticulously planned. we walk through some of the ceremony earlier, but give us a broader sense as to what this will be like for the king, as he talks to his new subjects, as well as the rituals and circumstances surrounding the mourning of the queen. >> well, the king, king charles has a difficult role here. he is not as popular as queen elizabeth. he has to on one hand lead the country in mourning, as the monarch, as the new head of state of this country, and at the same time, he is personally mourning the death of his mother and trying to lead his own family which we know has been fractured over the past few years. so it is a difficult role for
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him as the country really struggles to adjust to this completely new era. queen elizabeth was queen for 70 years, as we said,n't know anot it will be a different psychological, mental, emotional adjustment for this country. there are a lot of other problems in this country right now, there is of course a new prime minister, there's a problem with the economy, cost of living, gas prices, a really difficult era that king charles will have to lead his country into, and people will be looking for inspiration. they turn to the queen for decades, in difficult times, looking for that solace and really that consistency. she is someone who stood true to that oath that she gave as a very young princess that she was going to dedicate her entire
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life to her country. now, you know, it's time to look back at those 70 years, and honor her, and what she did, and the country will be doing that in the coming days, with gun salutes, with bells tolling, at cathedrals, and of course, with visiting her as she lies in state in london. but also looking forward to what is next, with a new monarch, for the first time in seven decades. jonathan? >> nbc's kelly cobiella joining us live from scotland. thank you very much. as we were just discussing and legally upon queen elizabeth's death, charles became the next king of england. king charles iii. he paid his own tribute to the queen, his mother, with a statement reading in part, we mourn profoundly the passion of a cherished sovereign and much loved mother. i know her loss will be deeply felt throughout the country, the commonwealth and by countless people around the world.
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king charles iii and his queen cons sell camilla will begin a process of accession to the throne. i want to bring in global director of "politico" and r-who served as press secretary for the u.k. cabinet office. thanks for being up so early with us this morning. let's start, it is hard to almost try to encapsulate the legacy of the monarch who served for 70 years, who was there, who served her country in world war ii, and through so much, moments of triumph and also challenges for the u.k., what are just a few of the things that you think should be most remembered for. >> the connected tissue that she provided, jonathan. she was the connective tissue between countries. i grew up in australia. i spent my entire childhood of mon meants to her and pictures to her, and reading class where she visited, and many times she visited all of the countries of the commonwealth.
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and she was the connective tissue between generations, even years, and that could not be said of any other world leader. think of the american people themselves, she's met 13 american presidents. i don't think that anyone in history that can say that they've met 13 american presidents. and i was really struck watching the television coverage yesterday, and every time a reporter would approach someone outside buckingham palace, invariably it was a person who actually met the queen. she probably met not maybe five million but maybe more than a million people in her lifetime and she touches people in a way that prince charles is probably not going to be able to do it. is an entirely different era, mind set and he brings a whole different set of baggage to the situation. so she really is this unique figure in history and i think people feel that in some kind of undefinable way when they react to this news. >> here in the united states, the longest serving president,
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franklin roosevelt, 12, 13 years. this is 70 years. there are generations who have no memory of not having the queen. you mentioned the commonwealth, what do you think, what's the future there of the monarchy as well for some of these other countries? and we know this passing comes a few year, after brexit, independence for one, and what happens? >> i think it is a low moving train in this situation, but all headed in the direction that more countries decides that they don't need king charles as head of state. in many ways, queen elizabeth's era was one of loss, she provide -- presided over the loss of an empire and she was able to be extraordinary and built something out of those ashes and that is a commonwealth. a friendly group of nations and 56 countries but only 14 of them have britain, have the monarchy as their head of state.
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and so i think we're going to see that diminish. so it may remain a friendly group of nations, but australia, for example, will have another referendum, probably in the sort of two to five-year time horizon, canada, it is a slightly different constitutional situation, but more than 50% of the people in canada don't approve of charles replacing queen elizabeth. that's a really tricky situation. because you don't get to have that kind of democratic influence on how the monarchy. you have to go all in. you have to get rid of it or live with it, and you don't get to tweak the edges and decide who you want at the head of the monarchy. it is a difficult situation for charles and a lot of people in these countries have been hanging on for the queen's death, where they respect her sense of duty and understand it is too sensitive to touch this issue when she is in place but now she is gone, it is a whole 'nother issue. >> and king charles has a
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complicated relationship with his country. thank you. president joe biden and first lady visited the british embassy in washington and signed the book of condolences and the president wrote a message and later attended a dnc fundraiser and had this to say about the queen. >> i had the opportunity to meet her before she passed and incredibly decent and gracious women, and our thoughts and prayers are with the men and women of the kingdom, the commonwealth and their grief. >> and a source of comfort and proud for generations of britons. president donald trump released a statement saying the queen's historic and remarkable reign left a tremendous legacy of piece and prosperity for great britain. barack obama said she made the world her own, with a reign defined by grace, elegance, and a tireless work ethic, defying the odds and expectations placed
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on women of her generation. former president george w. bush had this to say, queen elizabeth ably led england through dark moments with her confidence in her people and her vision for a brighter tomorrow. former president bill clinton added, in sunshine or storm, she was a source of stability, serenity, and strength. and from former president jimmy carter, her dignity, graciousness, and sense of duty, have been an inspiration, and we join the millions around the world in mourning a remarkable leader. can't be said enough, the first president she met, harry truman. that is how long she served. up next, a closer look at how the queen helped to form america's special relationship with great britain. our special coverage continues in just a moment.
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we're taking a live look there at balmoral castle in scotland where the queen peacefully passed away yesterday afternoon. we can see. so flowers laid outside the gates there. throughout queen elizabeth's 70 year reign, americans have been fascinated with her, transfixed by her commitment to make a good impression on the united states. here is nbc's lester holt with more. >> we've seen presidents come and go. but for 70 years, she was always right there. queen elizabeth. across the pond. but close to so many american hearts. >> the queen has just left buckingham palace. >> it was love at first sight. her coronation. watched by millions coast to coast. >> i'm delighted to be here. >> on her first visit as queen, she revelled in an all american welcome, a state dinner hosted
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by president eisenhower, and a ticker tape parade in new york, regal, yet relatable, the young monarch leaving an enduring impression. since then, america's royal obsession only growing. as queen elizabeth charmed us, including celebrating america's past time. >> can we see her? >> because i mean, she came all the way from england. >> wonderful. she's a great lady of the world. >> and watching horse racing. >> my heart is still pounding. >> i was overwhelmed. i got chills. >> our fascination, extending to her children, and grandchildren, through all of the highs and the lows. on america's 200th birthday, she spoke about the special ties between the u.s. and u.k. >> your declaration of
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independence breaks that but it did not break our friendship. >> and then a dance with president ford. she met 13 presidents in all. >> i'm confident that our common values and shared interests will continue to unite us. >> helping draw in more american visitors than any other country. after 9/11, she famously had the royal guard play the star spangled banner in front of buckingham palace, to show our tied bond remained unbroken. america remembering england's queen and celebrating her incredible legacy. >> our thanks to our friend lester holt for that. still ahead here, the queen was am service to her country until the very end. appointing the final prime minister of her reign just days before her passing. we will look at the state of affairs in the country she leaves behind ahead on this special edition of "way too early."
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queen elizabeth's death comes at a moment of great uncertainty for britain as we take a look at the crowds outside buckingham palace. her passing set in motion a complicated royal trans ition, elevating her eldest son and heir charles to the throne, the first king since 1952 and the oldest person to become monarch in british history. this comes amid political and economic up heel in the united kingdom. liz truss, the new prime minister has been in office for only a few days following months of political turmoil in the british government and the resignation of boris johnson. the country is also facing economic strain from inflation, soaring energy bills, and the prospect of a prolonged recession. elsewhere in europe, secretary of state amtony blinken made an
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unannounced trip to ukraine yesterday. he met president zelenskyy zelenskyy in kyiv and pledged an additional $2 billion in long term military aid for ukraine and 18 other european countries threaten bid russia. the announcement coincided with the biden administration unveiling a roughly $600 million package of heavy weaponry and ammunition, including howitzers, humvees and anti-tank systems. blinken also commended kyiv for their counter offensive in the south, saying the effort to regain control of russian held areas with quote proving effective. this is blinken's second trip to ukraine since the war began back in february. here in the united states, police in uvalde, texas, say two people were wounded during a shooting yesterday in a park just a short distance from robb elementary school. the two juvenile victims are being treated in nearby san antonio. texas department of public safety officials say they believe the shooting is gang
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related. governor greg abbott said last night that he was dispatching six additional state trooper units to uvalde to coordinate anti-gang efforts with city authorities. of course the students there at uvalde just returned to school a few days ago. months after the terrible school shooting there. legendary broadcast journalist bernard shaw has died, his family confirmed yesterday, first chief anchor when the program launched in 1980 and held the position for 20 years and covered some of the biggest moments in history including tiananmen square and the death of princess diana, and he moderated the 1988 second presidential debate, some analysts believe that this question to then nominee michael dukakis doomed the campaign. >> if kitty dukakis was raped
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and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer? >> no, i don't, bernard and i think you know that i proposed the death penalty -- opposed the death penalty during all of my life and i don't see any evidence that it is a deterrent and think there are better and more effective ways to deal with violent crime. >> shaw was inducted into the broadcasting and cage hall of fame in 1999 -- cable hall of fame and dubbed the boys of baghdad, a famed group of journalists who reported on the start of the persian gulf war from a hotel room in iraq and announced his retirement days after the 2000 presidential race and survived by his wife linda and children. bernard shaw was 82 years old. still ahead here on an expanded "way too early," we continue to follow developments from london as the world mourns the death of queen elizabeth. plus, we've got some other big stories we're following. the justice department appeals the decision to grant a special master in the investigation into
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donald trump's handling of classified documents. and steve bannon, the former trump adviser, indicted in new york city. danny cevallos joins us to break down the latest new developments straight ahead.
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welcome back to a special expanded "way too early." it is 4:30 a.m. on the east coast, that means it is 1:30 oust west, and 9:30 a.m. in london. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for being with us. u.k. prime minister liz truss
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paid tribute to queen elizabeth for her extraordinary achievement as britain's longest reigning monarch, appointed truss as prime minister, just 48 hours before her majesty's death. truss delivered her remarks outside 10 downing street and the first to use the phrase god save the king. >> we are all devastated by the news that we have just heard from balmoral. the death of her majesty the queen is a huge shock to the nation, and to the world. queen elizabeth ii was the rock on which modern britain was built. our country has greatly flourished under her reign. great britain is the great country it is today because of her. today, the crown passes. as it has done for more than a thousand years, to our new monarch, our new head of state, his majesty, king charles iii. with the king's family, we mourn
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the loss of his mother, and as we mourn, we must come together as a people to support him, to help him bear the awesome responsibility that he now carries for us all. and with the passing of the second elizabethan age we usher in a new era in the magnificent history of our great country, exactly as her majesty would have wished, by saying the words, god save the king. >> so much of the queen's legacy is committed to duty and service in her final days. welcome to the new prime minister. joining us now is msnbc royal commentator, tim, covering so many major moments in royal. >> it. tim, thanks for being with us this morning. for so many britons, they remember a day when kwooez queen elizabeth was not the monarch, tell us the mood in london as the nation wakes up to a new era. >> well, the mood is pretty somber, and you're right there,
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has been a figure around here only 10% of the population can remember a time before queen elizabeth ii, so the vast majority of the population, she is simply, you know, part of the nation's dna. the mood is still somber, and still reflective, still very sad. people are gathering again this morning, at buckingham palace, some have been there all night. one of the extraordinary things about this queen as he reign, and one of the things that always struck me, when i followed her on her last overseas tours, was just the number of people who wanted to turn out and see her. it really was quite extraordinary. and you know, in britain, not everybody is a monarchist, there is a republican movement, it is a small one, but not everybody believes in the institution of the monarchy, particularly a lot of young people, but queen
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personally had huge popularity, and you know, it's not an exaggeration to say but a lot of people here feel a great deal of personal grief over what has happened. we just couldn't imagine life without the queen, if you like. and it was a shock, because you just showed liz truss there, addressing the nation, a couple of days before that, she had been to see the queen at balmoral castle in scotland. there was no video. there were stills only. but the queen appeared to be bright-eyed, smiling, on her feet, albeit resting on a cane. and then two days later, suddenly, members of the royal family were rushing to her bedside. >> extraordinary, this is, i think in fitting part of her legacy, she was doing the duties of her position until the very, very end. msnbc, royal commentator, thanks so much for joining us, tim,
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your insight is invaluable. here at home, we're volg a new development after the -- we're following a mu development after the fbi searched former president donald trump's florida home and club. the justice department has decided to appeal part of a federal judge's ruling to appoint a special master to review the documents taken from mar-a-lago. prosecutors say they have serious concerns about handing government secrets over to a third party. the d.o.j. argues that the records seized from mar-a-lago last month are not the former president's personal records, and therefore, he has no right to possess them. the department of justice also asked the judge, eileen cannon, a trump appointee, to put on hold her order blocking the department from using the seized record in its criminal investigation while it contests her ruling to a federal appeals court. law enforcement officials said in a filing yesterday that they would serve irreparable harm if judge cannon's order remained in place. the judge directed the order to respond by monday. and other trump news, steve
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bannon pleaded not guilty in a new york court to charges of money laundering, scheming to defraud and conspiracy. the charges relating to his involvement with the organization we build the wall, a group created and advertised as a fundraising effort to complete the wall of the southern border. that didn't happen. it is alleged that bannon defrauded donors in legally funding more than 100,000 dollars to the organization's president, as well as profiting himself. bannon faces between five to 15 years for the most serious charge. in 2020, bannon was charged federally for his activities with the group, but was pardoned by then president trump before the case went to trial, bannon was convicted with two counts refusing to comply with the congressional committee investigating the attack on the capitol and we should note that presidential pardon does not apply to state charges. joining us is our legal analyst, danny cevallos.
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thanks for getting up earlier than usual for us this morning. let's start with bannon. how strong is this case? how do you see it play out? >> it was strong enough that it was a federal case before. he was pardoned before the case ever went to trial, so there isn't any bar to the state authorities bringing charges for essentially the same conduct. and so we've kind of gotten a preview from his prior federal case, even though he was pardoned, and in general the theme is rather an historically common one, somebody starts a charity, somebody collects money to the charity, too much of the money goes into the collector's own pockets, that's really the essence of these charges. steve bannon may argue in defense, there were other people involved, i wasn't the main person, i didn't make any of these promises, i was just lending a helping hand to a charity that i thought was doing good. that's what i expect we'll see as the defense. and bannon has publicly made it clear he intends to fight this. just as he intended to go to trial on the federal charges.
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so we've already gotten a preview, as the government's case was strong enough to get an indictment, this case similarly has the same strength of the federal government's case did before. >> bannon, by my count wearing three or four shirts saying he indeed fight this. which i don't think is part of the plan here. before we turn to mar-a-lago, one last briefly on bannon, what sort of time line can we expect for a potential trial. >> now we're in state court, it moves a little more slowly than federal court but a high profile case expected to move along. we've gotten past the appearance stage and then discovery and pre-trial posture where the government or in this case the state turns over discovery and any motions are made, and then we inch along to trial. as the new york courts are finally starting to reopen for trials, and other in person appearances. >> let's move to the d.o.j. there was some debate whether or not they would appeal this decision. they are, a special master.
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it is a targeted appeal, that is right? tell us a little bit more about that and why they did it and what she would expect? >> the theme of the appeal is that we had sensitive documents here that could potentially, even giving it to a third party like a special master, create great risk. and there are different categories of documents. and things, i should say. there are personal things that were seized. there were government things that were seized. among those were classified things. and not classified things. and so the government's appeal really argues that, hey, these really classified things, we need to keep those away from any outside disclosure, and in addition, judge, your order before wasn't clear enough. how in the world does the government, which consists of the national security folks, and the prosecutors, how do they say, well, you can continue in this area, but you have to halt your investigation in this area? we're not entirely sure what we can do, the government is the government, so we need at least
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some clarification before we move forward. >> we'll get to that in the days ahead. msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos, thanks as always. still ahead on "way too early," queen elizabeth met with 13 u.s. presidents over her 70 year reign. more on somehow she is remembered here in america and around the world. the special edition of "way too early" will be right back. away things. fit together with away things.
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welcome back to "way too early." we're taking a live look at balmoral castle in scotland where queen elizabeth ii passed away peacefully yesterday at the age of 96. she was the longest reigning monarch in british history. and more than 70 years on the throne, she bore witness to more than a few regime changes in american politics, spending time with 13 of the last 14 sitting
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u.s. presidents. she also had a string of cord nal relationships that helped strengthen the ties between the two nations. that includes president harry truman, who she met once she was a princess back in 1951. she also met former president herbert hoover as well, but that was over 20 years, after he had left office. she of course met president trump a few times, and president biden last summer in england. let's bring in now white house white house correspondent for reuters jeff mason. thanks for joining us this morning. you covered a few of these presidential royal meetings i believe, president obama's trip to buckingham palace, when president trump went to winds er, i saw marking the 70th anniversary of d-day and along for the ride when president biden made his own trip to windsor last year. talk about the relationship here between the monarchy and the presidency and moments that in particular stand out to you.
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>> well, it was a real gift to be able to cover her twice, and as you know, jonathan, it's one of the sort of awesome pieces of being a white house correspondent, is you get to see living history sometimes and that was one of the moments when president obama first met the queen, and also when president trump did, where you really have to just reflect on, wow, this is somebody who has seen so much history, and been a part of world history for so long, that it was a really remarkable to see, i can recall specifically when the obamas were at buckingham palace, it was, i believe it was a state visit, and there was just, they had a special rapport with queen elizabeth, and you could just see it, and i recall after the state dinner that they had had at buckingham palace, it is traditional for the u.s. side to hold a dinner as well, and we showed some video just a minute
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or two ago, of the obamas receiving queen elizabeth, and prince philip at the house in london, where the u.s. held its dinner, and i can just remember them walking by at the end of the dinner, and the queen saying something along the lines of, you didn't have to do this, which i think is the quote that i really heard come out of her mouth as she was walking by, and of course, i think the obamas were like, yes, we did, of course we did. this is what we do, and you just held an amazing dinner the night before. so i think that was just an example of the graciousness that was personified by queen elizabeth, and of course, even the other time that i got to see her was with president obama, and that was a slightly different visit, that was outdoors, at windsor castle, and you know, if queen elizabeth had any question marks or any
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feelings or opinions about either of those presidents, you wouldn't have known it by watching her. she was just a model of neutrality and graciousness in both cases. >> yes, the queen, known for her poker face among so many other qualities. jeff mason, we usually talk politics with you, but we're so grateful for you to get up early this morning to share these remembrances. a special moment when presidents and queens meet. jeff, thank you again. right now, let's bring in clive, the author of the book "the last queen" elizabeth ii's 70 year battle to save the house of windsor. clive, thanks for being with us. you wrote for the daily beast yesterday about the sense of mystery that always surrounded the queen, writing no world figure was for so long as in scrutable as queen elizabeth ii who died at balmoral, at 96, and
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died with a mystery of the great saints and even those stripped of scrutiny, she was left untouched. tell us a little bit this, about this era of mystery is such, this aura of mystery is part of her legacy. >> a monarchy 70 years, it is amazing really, one of the most familiar international characters in the world. and yet when you come to think of it, all you get to see was the serving part of it and the important thing she never portrayed as you just said with your conversation with jeff mason, you never knew what she really thought about anything, and i would point out that she was an enormous asset in terms of british soft power, and people don't often realize this, that she was supervised because of the nature of the agency, from empire to commonwealth, and
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she worked very hard at that, and both in africa and caribbean, she spent a lot of time presiding over that situation, and a remarkably peaceable situation. and after all, when she began her reign, it was a world empire and when she ended her reign, there was no empire left and part of that managed through her and her handling of it. and another occasion in europe, when the french were resisting british application to the common weth and she paid a visit to france and she so wowed the french, you got the impression they wanted to bring back the monarchy in france and lo and behold, britain gained entry to the european union or the common market as it was called and then also the reconciliation of ireland, in 2011, she was the first british monarch to visit ireland in a century, and her
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visit was such a success that the re-establishment, the reconciliation of britain and ireland was achieved, and then even more, even more remarkably, in 2012, she shook hands with one of the architects of the assassination of her uncle mounbatton. >> and legacy expanded in so many different ways, 70 years, clive irving, author of "the last queen," and thanks, we're so dulated to have so many guests getting up early with us to share in her life. we will continue to remember the queen. we'll be right back to take a live look at buckingham palace. e
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president biden had been scheduled to give a speech yesterday on the coronavirus pandemic but it was canceled
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following the death of queen elizabeth. this comes as the white house begins a push to give americans an undated covid booster in the fall and potentially another surge. it includes the acquisition of more man 170 million doses of the new booster that will target the original coronavirus strain as well as the highly contagious ba.5 omicron subvariant. the administration will also urge schools across the country to hold at least one vaccination clinic before thanksgiving. joining us now to talk about it is msnbc medical contributor dr. hilton, thanks for joining us. let's talk about this new booster. there has been some speculation that some americans, should they, when should they get it? should they get it right away? should they wait a little bit to see if they have protection through the fall and winter and how bad do you think the new surge could be? >> well, you know, unfortunately, i think we have been around to a couple of
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different intersections this fall, and the one we have, covid-19, that we have to deal with, and at this point, we literally have 14% positivity rate in the united states of america. and to give you an idea what that means, for every person who is tested, how many persons are actually positive and ours is 14% and we ant that to be less than 5% to say we have this under control. keep in mind, people are not coming to the events this way, and people are using the home tests to test themselves which not will be funded by the government. so we will start to see this is a real issue, for how many people we actually have infected. the second thing we will see this fall is we will have flu season and one of the gauges, we're on the way to look at a bad or a good flu season is looking at australia. and australia this year had their worst flu season in the last five years. three times their average of their highest average, right? so we're going to have those two
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things happening at the same time within the next couple of months. and getting that booster shot right now to protect yourself, so we don't have to worry about that later, will be the best option. >> and any early signs with the white house has warned for a while, that hey, get this booster, because, though we seem to be in a little bit of a lull in the united states with covid, although we still measure the positivity rate higher, we think that things could get bad again this fall and winter, any early signs what that could look like, a new sub variant, perhaps? i think we have to deal with this variant. literally yesterday, 883 people died in the united states of america, from covid. and 2021, if you think about who should get this covid booster, it was, covid was the fourth leading cause of death for age groups 25 to 34. it was the number one cause of death for age groups 45 to 54. covid is not a flu. it is not something to get over. it is leading to the death of persons and you can protect yourself, and the way to protect yourself is to get that booster. >> you make such an important
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point. and the national conversation has moved on in some ways from the pandemic, 883 people died yesterday. far, far too many. msnbc medical contributor dr. ebony hilton, thanks for joining us this morning. up next the british commonwealth is in mourning, as king charles takes the throne, leading a country while grieving his beloved mother. we'll go live to london straight ahead. raight ahead.
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good morning. and welcome to the second hour of the discussion with expanded edition of "way too early," as we remember queen elizabeth. i'm jonathan lemire. on this friday, september 9th. thanks for starting your day with us. the world is indeed in mourning today, following the death of queen elizabeth ii. buckingham palace announced the passing of england's longest reigning monarch at 96 years o

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